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I went thru a cbsnews video and got some more snaps. These have a little more than we've seen before.
I'll just highlight what's interesting
1) there are some manila envelopes in the evidence box in addition to the stuff we know about. Maybe they just hold the tie and stuff. (maybe the flight path map?) You can also see a closer up of the parachute cord in one snap.
2) You can see the hooks on the back of the chest reserve. They're actually relatively large.
If you look for it in the ev1 snap, you can see a close up. ev3a is fuzzier but you can see the hooks on the back. They're bigger than the modern day b-12 snap? Comparing to the rig gear page wolfriverjoe mentioned, they look like MS70121 spec links. (size-wise?) I've attached a picture of that link for comparison. (from the rig gear page)
3) ev5 is another snap of the ticket. I believe you can see the date printed on it. We've questioned this before. I believe it's in the box below the big black number 1. The 11 and 71 are visible. The 24 not so much?
(edit) oh yeah, in the audio of that recent cbsnews video, Brian offered a different description of the money find. He described it like a piece of "petrified wood". Which doesn't make any sense, but I wondered if it reinforced the idea of all 3 bundles well stuck together, independent of the crumbling rubber bands.
(edit) oh yeah, I'm assuming the bank bag in ev2 with the neck tie, is just an experiment someone was doing. Not sure if it's exactly the same as Cooper's bank bag. Be nice to know if so.
I'll just highlight what's interesting
1) there are some manila envelopes in the evidence box in addition to the stuff we know about. Maybe they just hold the tie and stuff. (maybe the flight path map?) You can also see a closer up of the parachute cord in one snap.
2) You can see the hooks on the back of the chest reserve. They're actually relatively large.
If you look for it in the ev1 snap, you can see a close up. ev3a is fuzzier but you can see the hooks on the back. They're bigger than the modern day b-12 snap? Comparing to the rig gear page wolfriverjoe mentioned, they look like MS70121 spec links. (size-wise?) I've attached a picture of that link for comparison. (from the rig gear page)
3) ev5 is another snap of the ticket. I believe you can see the date printed on it. We've questioned this before. I believe it's in the box below the big black number 1. The 11 and 71 are visible. The 24 not so much?
(edit) oh yeah, in the audio of that recent cbsnews video, Brian offered a different description of the money find. He described it like a piece of "petrified wood". Which doesn't make any sense, but I wondered if it reinforced the idea of all 3 bundles well stuck together, independent of the crumbling rubber bands.
(edit) oh yeah, I'm assuming the bank bag in ev2 with the neck tie, is just an experiment someone was doing. Not sure if it's exactly the same as Cooper's bank bag. Be nice to know if so.
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QuoteTo be honest Jo, this response undermines your arguments even more - if this is the kind of thing that you base your convictions on. I am starting to think that the clerk in China has simply been baiting you too, and you have taken it all far too seriously.
In the meantime, please refer back to Happythought's post.
Actually Jo I am just wondering about something: do you have any independent verification that this guy actually is who he says he is? Did you track him down while looking for the night clerk, or did he find you? And if he found you, how - over the internet? Do you have anything other than his say-so that he is who he says he is?
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snowmman 3
QuoteQuoteTo be honest Jo, this response undermines your arguments even more - if this is the kind of thing that you base your convictions on. I am starting to think that the clerk in China has simply been baiting you too, and you have taken it all far too seriously.
In the meantime, please refer back to Happythought's post.
Actually Jo I am just wondering about something: do you have any independent verification that this guy actually is who he says he is? Did you track him down while looking for the night clerk, or did he find you? And if he found you, how - over the internet? Do you have anything other than his say-so that he is who he says he is?
orange1: I posted the stuff about "niteclerk" arriving on the sitcoms forum Jo posted to.
Jo also posted an email from the supposed night clerk (possibly a different person) to this forum.
I just noticed that that email was prefaced with the name Jo used on the suite101 forum "homes4ubyjo"
So this night clerk person or person(s) has a number of arrivals.
It would be real interesting to understand the details of "first contact". It's interesting even as a SETI like event...i.e. Jo claims all these contacts from strange people.
She says the first contact with night clerk was by phone..but then the phone number was no longer good.
I always wondered if all email/post contacts arrived "after" she posted details of the phone contact with night clerk or what...Or how she verified all the various contacts were the same person.
Here's her prior post on DZ showing (a) "night clerk" must have emailed her based on her suite101 stuff.
(edit) Why is a night clerk bragging about "been there-done that" ? extreme-night-clerking?
(edit) with this post she also mentioned a phone call from china (unknown how verified). The initial phone calls, with the guy and his wife, apparently were not from China though. Not clear if the wife is still around with the new night clerk or what.
(edit) I just noticed the date was 1/17/2008 on the received email. That's odd when coupled with "HOMES4UBYJO" since she had left suite101 and migrated here by then. Did Jo fake it or did she really get it with her old name, on that date?? confirmed: Homes4ubyjo at aol.com. Was it still active in 2008?
Jo posted on June 7, 2008 at 12:51 AM, the following:
Date: 1/17/2008 9:12:52 PM Central Standard Time
To: HOMES4UBYJO
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Dear Jo, I enjoy reading the excerpts from skeptics who were not there to give 'credence' to matters they have no first hand knowledge of. There was a registration card signed by " D B Cooper ". The name on that card was "------------" . I may have been only a 27 year old at that time but I still have a very good memory of that incident because of the 'questioning' that I received by the investigators involved that following evening when I came to work. My mind is as good now as it was then because I have kept it that way. I support you in your quest and have seen nothing as yet to doubt or question your evidence or my belief in that evidence as related to the facts as I know them to be true! I am not one for euphemisms as you know, however you can tell these non-believers that unless they have "been there-done that" they are just spreading their lies ,they know nothing, and they can go to hell! With my best wishes for your success,yours truly --------.
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Date: 1/17/2008 9:12:52 PM Central Standard Time
To: HOMES4UBYJO
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Dear Jo,
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Isn't that the same line Jo is always using?"I'm not lost. I don't know where I'm going, but there's no sense in being late."
Mathew Quigley
Why suddenly are you guys harping on the night clerk?
You all know what going public means to a career and someone's health, but then maybe you don't care. The FBI cannot say anything if he did come forward. They have to verify anything a witness states or they face consequences. Should the FBI damage a man's career or well being by revealing any statement given to them as a witness without his written and expressed acknowledgement they could be held liable.
This is the very reason other individuals who may know something DO not come forward. Fear of being ridiculed by not only the FBI, but the media.
One good example is our recent Presidential campaign.
More than one person has contacted me in regards to having met or known Weber or Cooper.
There has only been one night clerk...and he is REAL.
Want to talk about the man who claimed have been in jail with Cooper/Colllins in OR.?
Want to talk about a man who claims he was part of a CIA subversive operation?
This is just a sampling of individuals who have spoke with me and NOT the FBI. Because the FBI doesn't have the time or the money - or won't listen. At least I listen, but I verify and verify and most times I dismiss the claim as "Hog Wash".
Some of the claims seem so "delusional" that it is easy, but then there comes along that one you know is real. In one case, I dismissed the man as a NUT, but there was a truth to his story I couldn't make go away and have not been able to dismiss, nor do I attempt to do so...I just accept that he "did" know Duane in some way because of something he told me.
One individual came to me with a story that I know is true. Duane Weber caused a lot of pain and heartache in the lives of some of the people whose lives he passed thru. The man you would meet with the winning smile - had a secret side to him. He was generous and giving and loving, but the other side of him was sad and angry and calculating.
Duane's personality was sometimes childlike. His look of glee when he knew he just did something good - a grin you will never forget. If he was angry that lower lip was an unforgiving and angry looking pout.
Good judgement is something that is acquired...or required. This is the only thing that explains our 17 yr marriage.
You all know what going public means to a career and someone's health, but then maybe you don't care. The FBI cannot say anything if he did come forward. They have to verify anything a witness states or they face consequences. Should the FBI damage a man's career or well being by revealing any statement given to them as a witness without his written and expressed acknowledgement they could be held liable.
This is the very reason other individuals who may know something DO not come forward. Fear of being ridiculed by not only the FBI, but the media.
One good example is our recent Presidential campaign.
More than one person has contacted me in regards to having met or known Weber or Cooper.
There has only been one night clerk...and he is REAL.
Want to talk about the man who claimed have been in jail with Cooper/Colllins in OR.?
Want to talk about a man who claims he was part of a CIA subversive operation?
This is just a sampling of individuals who have spoke with me and NOT the FBI. Because the FBI doesn't have the time or the money - or won't listen. At least I listen, but I verify and verify and most times I dismiss the claim as "Hog Wash".
Some of the claims seem so "delusional" that it is easy, but then there comes along that one you know is real. In one case, I dismissed the man as a NUT, but there was a truth to his story I couldn't make go away and have not been able to dismiss, nor do I attempt to do so...I just accept that he "did" know Duane in some way because of something he told me.
One individual came to me with a story that I know is true. Duane Weber caused a lot of pain and heartache in the lives of some of the people whose lives he passed thru. The man you would meet with the winning smile - had a secret side to him. He was generous and giving and loving, but the other side of him was sad and angry and calculating.
Duane's personality was sometimes childlike. His look of glee when he knew he just did something good - a grin you will never forget. If he was angry that lower lip was an unforgiving and angry looking pout.
Good judgement is something that is acquired...or required. This is the only thing that explains our 17 yr marriage.
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mccurley 1
I have watch this thread for some time now.
At first I found it to be entertaining and somewhat informative.
For the last couple months however I find it has been nothing more then rehashing the same old stuff, and has lost any entertainment or informative value.
Not directed at you Jo, but to almost the entire population of this thread, has any one actuall got somehing NEW to say, or does anyone actually feel they are getting any closer to what ever it is they think they are going to get from this exercise?
At first I found it to be entertaining and somewhat informative.
For the last couple months however I find it has been nothing more then rehashing the same old stuff, and has lost any entertainment or informative value.
Not directed at you Jo, but to almost the entire population of this thread, has any one actuall got somehing NEW to say, or does anyone actually feel they are getting any closer to what ever it is they think they are going to get from this exercise?
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Quote(edited for space)I have watch this thread for some time now.
Has any one actually got somehing NEW to say, or does anyone actually feel they are getting any closer to whatever it is they think they are going to get from this exercise?
The FBI claims they have new "evidence' they are suppose to present. I have new "whatever" but that depends on the actions of the FBI.
I believe that is what everyone is hanging around for and like myself using repetive information and or rebuttals.
If the FBI doesn't look at the things I and others (not on this forum) have disclosed to them recently - we have a course of action in motion right now. The results of this action could end my search in the negative - but, at least it will be over...I will have done everything I could do....
If what I am going to do produces more circumstancial evidence - how will the FBI explain that away? We may not put Duane on the plane or in the chute...but, we will do the next best thing.
If Duane Weber was not Cooper he sure as H--- knew who was.
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p.s. Have you seen my fish?
Its all in the toaster -
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Come on Georger. With your tech skills you could make Duane or Cooper toast. Jesus toast is like so yesterday.
Hey, how about USB interfaced toaster printers that could burn a jpg image into a slice of bread? HP, are you listening?
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Hey, how about USB interfaced toaster printers that could burn a jpg image into a slice of bread? HP, are you listening?
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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
Georger- I'm blushing.
Thanx for the compliment. You were talking not to long ago about nylon rope and its properties. 550 paracord isn't really nylon rope. It has a core of 5-7 strands of nylon wrapped with a woven (cotton?) outer cover. It is thin, flexible, holds knots very well, and is strong-550# test. Any good army surplus store will have it, either near you or online.
Snow- "Kludging" reserve to harness probably not possible. The attachment hardware isn't "snaplinks" (i.e. carbiners) like climbers use. I think (not sure, I'm not that old) its B-12 connectors, more like on the end of a dog leash. They are still used to attach the tandem student to the TI. Para-gear has them on their website under "hardware" on page 3. You can get your pinkie finger in them, but that's about it. Rolling up the harness strap would be way too big.
I doubt the reserve attachment differed in any major way. DZ would have to be able to attach any reserve to any main, and would keep that kind of stuff standard. Like with the B-12s, I'm not old enough to have really been there, someone who was may want to correct me (please do so) but this is my understanding.
As far as jumpers knowing one and other, there are only about 30,000 active in the US today. While we certainly don't all know each other, there usually isn't more than 2 or 3 degrees of seperation between any given jumpers. It really is a small community. That's one of the reasons I try to be polite here. I don't want to flame the person who I will be asking to join on a jump next weekend. (Quade's wrath the other reason of course)
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