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"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG
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I am now headed back to washougal for a week search. Or to tell the truth to grieve . and search
Post when you are available. I have news.
Please post your news after he is available and posts so that you may then post your news
Ok Itzaac.
QuoteQuotebut that requires enablers with nothing better to do.
That's me: an enabler with nothing better to do.
As soon as I find something better to do, I'll stop enabling, but it's hard.
377
377,I hope you do not think of yourself as an enabler on my behalf.
I am going to direct the FBI to what they have missed - if any of you know how to get their attention - get it now! After all of these yrs - the truth is NO longer a matter of National Securtiy.
I have more and more connections to Boeing. It has been stated before that Duane's brother acted as a consultant to Boeing for 6 yrs. Now for another Boeing connection. Most of you have heard me mention Duane's parents relocating from Ohio to Ca and they ran a Sherwin Williams Paint and Decorations store in Huntington beach.
Now how does a paint and decorations store in Huntington beach connect Duane to Boeing?
There was a relative Duane NEVER told me about. This individual helped develope and worked in Chemical Warfare for the Army during WWI and he worked for Sherwin Williams before and after the war. He was directly or indirectly responsible for the employment of Duane's parents...not friends of the family.
During WWII he again is called to serve his country...but it is unclear in what capacity he served. At that time he was well established as a CHEMIST for Sherwin Williams. Sherwin Williams did indeed have the Boeing contract in its development stage and as the first 727 rolled off the line. If there exists an invitation list for the Roll-out of that first Boeing one will find his name there.
What Duane didn't tell me! And there is more, but I will let you guys digest this and do you own searching. The history on the Sherwin Williams site suddenly went POOF!
Of course we are all aware of Boeing's involvement in Vietman and the Boeing was built in WA.
Duane knew the 727 inside out and I mean that literally.
I am NOT the one responsible for finding this information and it has taken me several wks to digest this information or get it all screwed up. What we have now is several connections to Boeing that involved Duane and Duane's family. The grudge - and why he hijacked the plane on Nov. 24, 1971.
Back in the 40's, 50's, and 60's if a member of your family committed a crime - you might forgive them the first time and swallow your pride, then arrange to help them overcome. Repeat offenses and you were ousted from the family. The rest of Duane's family flourished, but Duane was disowned and disinherited.
Duane had told me his brother cheated him out of his inheritance, but he never told me how or why or how much it was. I assumed his family struggled and had no idea of the history that has been revealed to me.
I want to publicly thank a wonderful lady for her assistance in providing this information - this was NOT the results of any investigation done by me or my guys, but by a brilliant woman I have never met. Perhaps NONE of this proves Duane was Cooper, but the ODD are sure stacking up.
As I have said before - I could present the ticket and the FBI would not acknowledge Duane was Cooper.
Georger, you accused people of enabling me - but did the FBI find this and did they examine the relevance of this? NO! This woman found me and this information is PUBLIC records. You, my dear Georger found NOTHING regarding Weber. Most of you have prejudged me and accepted the word of the FBI when they claimed to have investigated Duane Weber.
I applaud the brilliant woman who found this information - it does NOT prove Duane was Cooper, but it DOES increase the ODDS and gives one more thought as to the motive and the grudge.
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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I have something that I think connects.
I knew a guy from Huntington Beach. The rumor he was laying low because of some misunderstanding relating to drugs. In any case, he had a red vw bug, with the front end lowered. He got a fix-it ticket for it. (no bumper, or the bumper was too low, or something).
Well, I was not from Huntington Beach, but had a red vw. He hatched a plan to swap plates and drive my dub down to get the ticket signed off. Apparently the plan worked.
But the plot thickens. I was sleeping in my red vw one night and awoke to find myself surrounded by kids outside. Unknowingly, I had parked at a schoolbus stop.
The other red vw bug owner, was working at a burrito joint. Somehow, someone knew were were connected and a message was passed to him accusing me of being some kind of pervert.
I later went to the burrito joint, and he gave me an oversized burrito, for the same price as normal size.
A number of years after that, he died. I don't know what happened to that red vw, or if it was still lowered.
I don't believe he ever worked at Sherwin Williams though.
I knew a guy from Huntington Beach. The rumor he was laying low because of some misunderstanding relating to drugs. In any case, he had a red vw bug, with the front end lowered. He got a fix-it ticket for it. (no bumper, or the bumper was too low, or something).
Well, I was not from Huntington Beach, but had a red vw. He hatched a plan to swap plates and drive my dub down to get the ticket signed off. Apparently the plan worked.
But the plot thickens. I was sleeping in my red vw one night and awoke to find myself surrounded by kids outside. Unknowingly, I had parked at a schoolbus stop.
The other red vw bug owner, was working at a burrito joint. Somehow, someone knew were were connected and a message was passed to him accusing me of being some kind of pervert.
I later went to the burrito joint, and he gave me an oversized burrito, for the same price as normal size.
A number of years after that, he died. I don't know what happened to that red vw, or if it was still lowered.
I don't believe he ever worked at Sherwin Williams though.
georger 244
QuoteQuoteQuotebut that requires enablers with nothing better to do.
That's me: an enabler with nothing better to do.
As soon as I find something better to do, I'll stop enabling, but it's hard.
377
377,I hope you do not think of yourself as an enabler on my behalf.
I am going to direct the FBI to what they have missed - if any of you know how to get their attention - get it now! After all of these yrs - the truth is NO longer a matter of National Securtiy.
I have more and more connections to Boeing. It has been stated before that Duane's brother acted as a consultant to Boeing for 6 yrs. Now for another Boeing connection. Most of you have heard me mention Duane's parents relocating from Ohio to Ca and they ran a Sherwin Williams Paint and Decorations store in Huntington beach.
Now how does a paint and decorations store in Huntington beach connect Duane to Boeing?
There was a relative Duane NEVER told me about. This individual helped develope and worked in Chemical Warfare for the Army during WWI and he worked for Sherwin Williams before and after the war. He was directly or indirectly responsible for the employment of Duane's parents...not friends of the family.
During WWII he again is called to serve his country...but it is unclear in what capacity he served. At that time he was well established as a CHEMIST for Sherwin Williams. Sherwin Williams did indeed have the Boeing contract in its development stage and as the first 727 rolled off the line. If there exists an invitation list for the Roll-out of that first Boeing one will find his name there.
What Duane didn't tell me! And there is more, but I will let you guys digest this and do you own searching. The history on the Sherwin Williams site suddenly went POOF!
Of course we are all aware of Boeing's involvement in Vietman and the Boeing was built in WA.
Duane knew the 727 inside out and I mean that literally.
I am NOT the one responsible for finding this information and it has taken me several wks to digest this information or get it all screwed up. What we have now is several connections to Boeing that involved Duane and Duane's family. The grudge - and why he hijacked the plane on Nov. 24, 1971.
Back in the 40's, 50's, and 60's if a member of your family committed a crime - you might forgive them the first time and swallow your pride, then arrange to help them overcome. Repeat offenses and you were ousted from the family. The rest of Duane's family flourished, but Duane was disowned and disinherited.
Duane had told me his brother cheated him out of his inheritance, but he never told me how or why or how much it was. I assumed his family struggled and had no idea of the history that has been revealed to me.
I want to publicly thank a wonderful lady for her assistance in providing this information - this was NOT the results of any investigation done by me or my guys, but by a brilliant woman I have never met. Perhaps NONE of this proves Duane was Cooper, but the ODD are sure stacking up.
As I have said before - I could present the ticket and the FBI would not acknowledge Duane was Cooper.
Georger, you accused people of enabling me - but did the FBI find this and did they examine the relevance of this? NO! This woman found me and this information is PUBLIC records. You, my dear Georger found NOTHING regarding Weber. Most of you have prejudged me and accepted the word of the FBI when they claimed to have investigated Duane Weber.
I applaud the brilliant woman who found this information - it does NOT prove Duane was Cooper, but it DOES increase the ODDS and gives one more thought as to the motive and the grudge.
Ok Itzaak. Thanks for the info -
George
I'm Back Jo Jerry
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Quote377,I hope you do not think of yourself as an enabler on my behalf.
Nahhh... You do just fine on your own Jo. No enablers are needed.
I fail to see how any of this Sherwin Williams stuff proves Duane knew Boeing 727s inside and out.
It makes as much sense as Snows red VW story which was his point, I think.
The FBI will ignore your info. Why should they investigate it when it doesn't prove anything about Norjack?
If you have proof that Duane was Cooper post it. What you have posted so far is a disjointed seemingly irrelevant series of events that in your mind links Duane to Norjack. I believe that nobody but you sees it that way.
Sherwin Williams makes good paint. I just painted my house with their Duralast product. My house contains number of Boeing flight manuals including one for the 727. My head is spinning. The FBI had better take a closer look. Forget Ckret, we need Scully and Mulder.
377
2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
Jo do us all a favor post Duane's millitary Record's If you can . . I'm sure you can't. It is time to stop the fantisie's and post the proof. Sorry for the reality check . But due to the time frame it is time for you to quite leading people on with wild stories. It is your choice. And entirly up to you. However if you wish to be proven a person of fiction in your life time . I will do it. The recent lose of my Mother sister aunt cousin Uncle and son has hardened my heart I will not tolerate you'r Fiction or you'r tall tale's any longer. Life is to short for your bull. So stop [t or I will do it for you in your home town. Jo I am very serious. Drop out now . It's over I'm Done and no more phone call.s Jerry
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QuoteThe history on the Sherwin Williams site suddenly went POOF!
Please provide some detail here. What web page are you talking about? Post a link to it. On what date was the history there, and when did it disappear? What was the info that disappeared?
You really need to start coughing up some detail on things.
"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG
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QuoteI have something that I think connects.
I knew a guy from Huntington Beach. The rumor he was laying low because of some misunderstanding relating to drugs. In any case, he had a red vw bug, with the front end lowered. He got a fix-it ticket for it. (no bumper, or the bumper was too low, or something).
Well, I was not from Huntington Beach, but had a red vw. He hatched a plan to swap plates and drive my dub down to get the ticket signed off. Apparently the plan worked.
But the plot thickens. I was sleeping in my red vw one night and awoke to find myself surrounded by kids outside. Unknowingly, I had parked at a schoolbus stop.
The other red vw bug owner, was working at a burrito joint. Somehow, someone knew were were connected and a message was passed to him accusing me of being some kind of pervert.
I later went to the burrito joint, and he gave me an oversized burrito, for the same price as normal size.
A number of years after that, he died. I don't know what happened to that red vw, or if it was still lowered.
I don't believe he ever worked at Sherwin Williams though.
Snowman!
This is the best post of the entire thread!
jon
snowmman 3
Attached is a picture of the Sherwin Williams in Huntington Beach.
They no longer sell wallpaper. Only paint.
Sherwin Williams does have a portfolio of aerospace coating products:
exterior:
* JET GLO¨ - the premium aerospace coating for medium and large size aircraft.
* ACRY GLO¨ - a high-quality aerospace coating generally used on smaller aircraft and helicopters or for feature striping on larger aircraft coated with JET GLO¨.
primers for above
interior:
JETFlex™ - durable polyurethanes available in solvent-based and water-reducible formulations.
I explored the original invention date of 5 gallon plastic storage buckets before. It's possible that the buckets Duane used to bury the money, that Jo revealed, actually came from this paint store? I'm not sure how they distributed larger quantities pre-1971.
I also don't know if Tom Kaye found any paint remnants on the money.
Related: CSG has discovered that the recent Balloon Boy episode was a stunt to fake a UFO flight. The plan was that an obviously fake UFO flight, would turn the public against knowledge of real UFOs. This was deemed necessary by the FBI, due to the our recent uncovering of the UFO/cow mutilation connection to the money find at the Fazios.
They no longer sell wallpaper. Only paint.
Sherwin Williams does have a portfolio of aerospace coating products:
exterior:
* JET GLO¨ - the premium aerospace coating for medium and large size aircraft.
* ACRY GLO¨ - a high-quality aerospace coating generally used on smaller aircraft and helicopters or for feature striping on larger aircraft coated with JET GLO¨.
primers for above
interior:
JETFlex™ - durable polyurethanes available in solvent-based and water-reducible formulations.
I explored the original invention date of 5 gallon plastic storage buckets before. It's possible that the buckets Duane used to bury the money, that Jo revealed, actually came from this paint store? I'm not sure how they distributed larger quantities pre-1971.
I also don't know if Tom Kaye found any paint remnants on the money.
Related: CSG has discovered that the recent Balloon Boy episode was a stunt to fake a UFO flight. The plan was that an obviously fake UFO flight, would turn the public against knowledge of real UFOs. This was deemed necessary by the FBI, due to the our recent uncovering of the UFO/cow mutilation connection to the money find at the Fazios.
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Wonder why nobody did a quick rough calc of the volume of that wacky saucer helium balloon. When I did, it seemed incapable of lifting a six year old kid's weight. It also seemed to have attitude changes inconsistent with the weight of a 6 year old child suspended beneath it. Sure glad it ended well.
Did you read what the kid said? " We did this for a show". Maybe it is ambiguous, but I smell a rat.
http://buzz.yahoo.com/article/1:y_news:4e32f9eb1cd4cb0464a3d92619ff7c9d/Balloon-boy-We-did-this-for-a-show-AP
The use of naive kids in publicity stunts... could it have happened at Tena Bar?
377
Did you read what the kid said? " We did this for a show". Maybe it is ambiguous, but I smell a rat.
http://buzz.yahoo.com/article/1:y_news:4e32f9eb1cd4cb0464a3d92619ff7c9d/Balloon-boy-We-did-this-for-a-show-AP
The use of naive kids in publicity stunts... could it have happened at Tena Bar?
377
2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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QuoteWonder why nobody did a quick rough calc of the volume of that wacky saucer helium balloon. When I did, it seemed incapable of lifting a six year old kid's weight.
see below
QuoteIt also seemed to have attitude changes inconsistent with the weight of a 6 year old child suspended beneath it.
Agreed. definitely.
some people did do a rough calc on some forums while it was happening...the balloon didn't seem big enough did it?, but surprisingly it was "possible" if the boy was maybe 45 lbs or so.
What I thought was silly, was the structural issue. the thing seemed to flimsy to support a 45 lb point load below it...i.e. it would distort.
at 20C and standard air pressure:
Weight of air per liter = 1.20 gr/l
Weight of helium per liter = 0.18 gr/l
Net lift per liter of helium = 1.03 gr/l
6 year old more likely would weigh 50-60 lbs.
Assume the whole balloon would have to weigh at least 10 lbs.
So 70lbs of lift needed. approx 32000 grams. So about 31000 liters of helium needed.
That's 1089 cubic feet.
Now if the balloon was 20 feet in diameter, that's 314 cu. ft of volume per ft of thickness.
So if it was 4 feet thick (tapering at edges)...then you're just about there.
It is interesting to ask "why was it that size?" ... maybe it was designed to hold the kid.
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***What I thought was silly, was the structural issue. the thing seemed to flimsy to support a 45 lb point load below it...i.e. it would distort.
***
Excellent point.
What was the point in making such a weird saucer shaped balloon? It makes no sense from any angle other than publicity.
The kid vomited on TV twice when asked to explain his statement about it being for a "show".
Poor little guy. I hope he doesnt become a foster kid over all this.
377
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Excellent point.
What was the point in making such a weird saucer shaped balloon? It makes no sense from any angle other than publicity.
The kid vomited on TV twice when asked to explain his statement about it being for a "show".
Poor little guy. I hope he doesnt become a foster kid over all this.
377
2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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That's me: an enabler with nothing better to do.
As soon as I find something better to do, I'll stop enabling, but it's hard.
377
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Funny. Just posted my favoriyte candidate for
Cooper above. He even claimed tobe Cooper
once!
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"so just say it, I know you are thinking it, you want me to do comedy for you in this fucking elevator, this goddamned elevator that not only was free, but doesn't even have a two drink minimum. Well fuck you, I am not that desperate yet. "
And then he proceeded to deliver a hard edged profane monolog that literally had everyone in stitches.
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I had an uncle sort of like him - kept everyone
entertained and he was for real. He and my
grandmother had a going thing that went clear
back to when they were all teens. One Chanukah
he gave my grandmother 'one golash'... said
the mate had been lost 'just like my grandmother's
lack of a husband' ... another Chanukah he gave
my Gram a half a grapefruit. Always gift wrapped
professionally. Kept the family in stitches for years...
Rickles did mention Cooper in one of his monologues ... I cant repeat what he said.
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Post when you are available. I have news.
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