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A river drowning gives the best explanation for Coopers disappearance, but didn't G present a reasonably convincing argument about how statisically unlikely a water landing was?
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Statistically unlikely is one thing, actual occurrence is another. How statistically likely is it that someone will win the lottery - but people do? How statistically likely is it to get struck by lightning in the same place twice - yet people do? Perhaps more appropriate, how statistically likely is it that a skydiver will hit the only obstacle in a huge field - but they do?
Snow, the tie pin theory - surely someone in the FBI, especially those who thought McCoy was Cooper, would have put 2 +2 together on the tie pin? Do you think maybe Chevron Man was Cooper? Duane wanted to blackmail him?
Georger's connection with the tie clip assumes some uniqueness about the tie clip.
I produced a picture of a similar tie clip. Newspaper ads around the same time had drawings more than pictures, but had the mother of pearl sets like I showed, available widely (and cheap).
If they were widely available, then there's nothing to bother thinking about.
Being widely available and being particular as part
of a dress code in a particular community are two entirely different things.
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QuoteWhat would the "LDS acceptable" hijack justification be? Give us a theoretical example.
There would no LDS acceptable justification, at least
none for public consumption.
Now look who is teasing.
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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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QuoteGeorger,
After you posted your musings about a Cooper-McCoy connection, I talked to a couple of people to see what they thought about it. One who knows a good bit about NORJAK and one who is a Mormon (LDS).
The NORJAK savvy individual said; “Nah…. I don’t think it’s likely.”
The LDS person had the opinion that in some LDS communities, especially in Utah, Oregon and Washington, a family member committing such a crime (one where murder wasn’t involved) would (possibly) be handled within the family and not reported to secular (their term gentile) authorities. This would be the case if he got by with it or if he turned up missing and the family recognized him from the sketches.
This person gave me a lot of background on how it would be handled within the family, but I don’t want to have a discussion about religious dogma and beliefs, especially concerning a religion I know very little about.
Sluggo
BTW: I visited the Amana communities several times while I was living in IL. I really enjoyed it. MAN! What great food!
Good post - good points. The two different answers are striking. It is like outsider vrs. insider opinion.
I agree with the second because that is my experience. Faith based groups have their
own rules. Its part of the autonomy issue...
The Amana Society is but one of four such groups
in my area in addition to Maharishi's, the Quakers, the Dutcher Reformers, the Catholics, the Apostolics, .... and the list goes. There are common denominators among the groups but each has its own rules, priorities, and identity set within secular society itself. LE has developed techniques for
working with all of these communities. Life is
complicated!
McCoy was not Cooper. I dont believe that for a second. However Cooper may have been someone with a background similar to McCoys, but without
the deep military background-skills McCoy had?
We know that McCoy was living right in the nexus
of serious social tensions which includes at Brigham Young. People saw McCoy as a model and above
the common norm but he was juggling conflicting stresses then he snaps. He was deeply in debt for one thing. (he asks 500k vrs Cooper's 200k and remarks about that - money is important to him). You never expect people to do these things until they do them and inevitably someone does.
I may have more to ay later but this is (to me)
thought provoking...
Unless Geoff did come up with something new, the book would be a real ho humm rehash and unlikely to interest a publisher. I eagerly await its release. I am such an incurable optimist. I am just as eager about Galen's book. I think he is delaying it until he exhausts all possibilities of finding those cached twenties that Gossett supposedly put in a safe deposit box in Canada. The box would have to be pretty big by my calcs which makes it less likely.
I think the next book needs to be HOAXJACK, the story of how an NWA crew faked the greatest hijack of all time. People like that stuff. Look at how many people believe that the Apollo moon landings were faked.
Snow, take a break from your research in Iceland and task your stable of Russian novelists with creating a plot storyboard. Quentin Tarantino will really regret treating you badly when this goes to the big screen and tops his best box office gross.
There was a Cooper, but he was dropped far from the Washougal. The fake report of the pressure bump made it so easy to mislead the FBI. Cooper was dropped, but much later over a pre arranged LZ in Nevada with a well prepared accomplice waiting below.
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