50 50
quade

DB Cooper

Recommended Posts

Jo said "Sluggo posted an address and contact number for a Greg Larson who was supposedly the husband of Tina Mucklow. This was to the best of my knowledge not his research material."

Sluggo had posted
"believe that sometime around 1972 he married Tina Mucklow. They were divorced just a few years after. Shortly after that, Tina entered a cloister under the name of Sister Mary Alice Mucklow."


You know what's funny? the only place I found a reference for that story of Sluggo's was here:
http://www.startiger.com/celebrity_address/Tina_Mucklow_id304763.html

I wonder if he got it there. If so, it's pretty funny researching.
Although, I wonder if that site skimmed "Also known as:
Sister Mary Alice Mucklow" from some other place on the web.

It's all too funny. If I repeat it enough, skimmers will grab it from here and the myth will perpetuate.

Who knows if it is true?

Sister Mary Alice Mucklow and Duane Weber
Sitting in 18C
K-I-S-S-I-N-G
First comes bourbon,
Then comes money,
Then comes Weber hanging in a tree


I like this detail Ckret posted back in the thread:

Evidence as it was found on the plane:
clip-on tie with tie clasp on the tie, laying in seat 18E
empty belly container laying on the floor in front of 18D
pink chute laying across seats 17c and 17b
unaltered backpack (Pioneer) sitting in seat 18B

(edit) oh shucks. I'm the first post on the page again.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Jo said "Yes, Georger - my sweet baboon, I caught your litte hint - Sven or seven? Do you think I did not notice? How would you know about that? Too bad you do not use PM's and I would not be disclosing our little secret in public. You have my phone number - call me and maybe we will exchange goats."

Jo, the guy at the Lithuania web site: He doesn't take goats. Nor dollars. Euros only.

And his name is Ivan. Not Sven.

Don't get swindled.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
happy said "So, the chances of fishermen stumbling across a "square grouper" are pretty good. Most everyone I know has had that experience. Responses have been varied. "


The only good thing I've found in a river turned out pretty good.
We were floating down the Delaware River on innertubes as teenagers, but we had not planned well, and had no drinks.

I spied something shiny in the river. Turned out to be a sixpack of beer. Made the day.

Think I found some a floating dollar bill that day also?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Georger said that Jo and I are a team.

Now it's true that we have a three card monte scam going here.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-163435387173807719#

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW0D2sAqrn4&feature=fvw

We just haven't gotten the money yet.

(edit) Georger: where are the photos? You find the lady, you get twenty bucks? Put your money down.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote


My second chop was on a static line jump from a huey...it was a military demo water jump from 1250' It came out...was a spinning piece of shit Mae West... and it was not by the book... but no way I was gonna toss the reserve into the direction of spin. I figured it was time for that crap to go away.....kinda pissed off the first shirt and that got to the Squadron commander...but hey.. I swam away with no injuries( I was open at about 300':).. when we got back to base.. like I said.. I had a little chat with the rigger who packed it for me.

Snow..its about dealing with the situation...simple enough. That said.. people who panic or freeze in situations beyond the norm... skydiving may not be a good sport for them.



I wonder how many jumpers recognise that malfunction and its origins nowadays:D My guess is that Jo's more likely to know the answer than Orange! I have a photograph of a mate being given the Mae West award at the DZ - can't remember what it was for though.
Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I wonder how many jumpers recognise that malfunction and its origins nowadays:D My guess is that Jo's more likely to know the answer than Orange! I have a photograph of a mate being given the Mae West award at the DZ - can't remember what it was for though.



thwart - definition of thwart by the Free Online Dictionary ...
To prevent the occurrence, realization, or attainment of: They thwarted her plans. 2. To oppose and defeat the efforts, plans, or ambitions of. n. Nautical ...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Some fascinating reading about what can go wrong and what to do about various failures.

I remember others telling stories about how various situations unfolded and they all winnowed down to the same theme; training, training, training.

When something went south they all said the training kicked in and they went through the emergency procedures almost automatically. Then I experienced my first emergency and I can say that I wholly understand what others meant by training 'kicking in.' All that time rehearsing what to do in certain scenarios over and over for a malfunction which may never occur. Having your bacon saved once will make all those exercises worth while.

With this in mind, would an experienced jumper accept what Cooper received as equipment? How long would you have to look at a harness and reserve to realize they are not compatible? Would you jump with such a configuration and how? Would you do it for a sport jump?

Hours had passed from when Cooper passed the note to when he started to receive the equipment and money. After the discovery of less than optimum equipment why didn't he modify or expand his demands?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
good points farflung.

There are examples of other hijackers requiring things to be exchanged. I believe it was Hahneman who didn't like the denominations of his bills and wanted bigger bills (less weight?)

hey I just saw a new tidbit about Hahneman's hijack. ..says he told the crew he had cancer and only six months to live (he didn't)

funny about myths. People love them! (witness the creation of such possible mythology about Cooper). Also mentions again how they found his harness quickly.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=ngg0AAAAIBAJ&sjid=v_cDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6689,2858056&dq=hijacker+guatemala&hl=en

(edit) here's an article that mentions how Hahneman (they didn't know his name yet) landed at Dulles to change the bill denominations he first received
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=v9gRAAAAIBAJ&sjid=h-wDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3258,2561948&dq=hijacker+guatemala+bills&hl=en

(edit) good article on banks keeping money available for ransoms and another mention of the Dulles denominations switch for Hahneman
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1350&dat=19720806&id=jnAUAAAAIBAJ&sjid=7AEEAAAAIBAJ&pg=7290,354261

Hahneman wanted $1000 and $500 bills which were hard to find!
(the last article has more details of the exact things Hahneman didn't like) They initially gave him $100s and smaller. He didn't like that.

(edit) I never found out whether Hahneman had prior skydiving experience. It's a perplexing question. Was Hahneman whuffo or not whuffo? You can look at his actions, and still not know.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
With this in mind, would an experienced jumper accept what Cooper received as equipment? How long would you have to look at a harness and reserve to realize they are not compatible? Would you jump with such a configuration and how? Would you do it for a sport jump?

Hours had passed from when Cooper passed the note to when he started to receive the equipment and money. After the discovery of less than optimum equipment why didn't he modify or expand his demands?



It fits the profile of manic depression and this is exactly what makes it difficult to judge: expert or fool. People then forget all the gray area in between
and that is where the theoretical cult activity begins.
That is why we are here on a cult website devoted
only to the skydiving aspect of the case?

This forum is sane and polite compared to most physics discussion forums! Has Snowmmann never
told this fact? What is Snowmmann/377 hiding?

Snow says:

"I never found out whether Hahneman had prior skydiving experience. It's a perplexing question. Was Hahneman whuffo or not whuffo? You can look at his actions, and still not know."

Now compare Hahneman to McCoy and fit Cooper
into that comparison? They all "skydived" in the
end, didn't they.

It is nice to have all these experts here who stoutly
swear he died or he lived ... or was injured. To resolve this I always go back to Cossey who say
simply: "if he got it open he lived".

You will find the FBI is very reluctant to talk about
Cossey's statement. That fact alone answers 377's
question about how much the FBI knows! The FBI
does not know how to answer Cossey's statement
except to reject it ... with expert testimony like Palmer's. It's like a trial at the Inqusition with one'guy off to the side Cossey/Galileo saying:
"he might have survived".

Let me digress: Amazon has not addressed the
specially packed chute Cossey provided. Neither
has Snowmmann in all his comprehensive brilliance
brought it up. Cossey's chute is key and one major
reason the FBI say's Cooper died. We have other
expert testimony on Cossey's hard-pull chute but
that testimony is mixed. I for one would like to read
what Aamazon thinks about Cossey's chute (the
chute Cooper used), specifically.

For me Cossey's chute is pivital.

$5800+ dollars survived to be found in 1980 at
Tina Bar. That is 3+% of the original bundles of
100 bundles ($2000 per bundle).

However the found bundles arrived at Tina Bar
it appears they arrived in a protected state either
very early or after some exchange with time in another protected state, either arriving at the bar very quickly in a protected state from some point
more distant, or slowly (with very little stress) from nearby. But the bundles were covered up quickly and protected after arriving at Tina Bar. Top sand finally eroded away to expose the found bundles and a debris field ... and that is that.

The debris field was either part of the original deposition scenario or part of a series of erosion
and recovering scenarios at Tina Bar; perhaps both
scenarios working together over time.

Tides were not responsible for the money being deposited at Tina Bar. Tides could be part of an
erosion-exposure scenario.

The sum total of all forensics on the money
to date indicates sediments and sand types consistent with the Columbia basin only, infiltrating the found bundles. The found bundles spent the bulk of their history in the Columbia basin only.
This excludes the Washougal, so far.

For the record once more: there were a number of
dating techniques available in 1980 which could
have been used to date both the sediments and
the money at Tina Bar. Samples of the money were
sent for analysis but so far as I know, dating was
not applied.

The issue of when the money arrived
at Tina Bar could have been settled to within an
error factor of only a few months, back in 1980.
I have no idea why these techniques were not employed in such an important case. Perhaps it
is best to leave these issues untouched, in the
context of the present narrow concomitance of
this venue dejur.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I was thinking that it would help finances if I opened the CSG up to new members.

My idea is that initial entry costs $5000, and you get a certain amount of information.

Then after you study and past certain tests, you're eligible to access information at higher levels, upon additional payments of $5000.

I think the cost thing makes sense, like I said about skydiving. There has to be a cost of entry.

This makes sense to me.

Is $5000 too low? I'm trying to price the market.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Georger of the religion which is outlawed said "Let me digress: Amazon has not addressed the specially packed chute Cossey provided. Neither has Snowmmann in all his comprehensive brilliance brought it up. "


I thought what was interesting about the chute was not the mechanics of the rip (hey I'm the one who posted the most about that mod, from Poyntner...Why is georger ripping me a new one on this?)...

but the supposed response of Cooper (reported by Ckret) when they tried to give him something that had some instructions. He was confident he didn't need that.

Weird.

(edit) I've come to accept that both Sluggo and Georger have poor memories. How do you have a conversation, if you're assuming the other half may forget things?

(edit) I also posted some on the pull force studies the Air Force did back then, and the limits they had, and the two hand pull training. Maybe Amazon can talk about hard pull training in the military back then? Especially as a woman? Did Amazon have any upper-body-strength issues in the early days? (the air force study called out the details of testing men vs women, which is why I ask)
(now Amazon is going to rip me a new one ....:) )

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote

Georger of the religion which is outlawed said "Let me digress: Amazon has not addressed the specially packed chute Cossey provided. Neither has Snowmmann in all his comprehensive brilliance brought it up. "


I thought what was interesting about the chute was not the mechanics of the rip (hey I'm the one who posted the most about that mod, from Poynter...Why is georger ripping me a new one on this?)...

but the supposed response of Cooper (reported by Ckret) when they tried to give him something that had some instructions. He was confident he didn't need that.

Weird.

(edit) I've come to accept that both Sluggo and Georger have poor memories. How do you have a conversation, if you're assuming the other half may forget things?

(edit) I also posted some on the pull force studies the Air Force did back then, and the limits they had, and the two hand pull training. Maybe Amazon can talk about hard pull training in the military back then? Especially as a woman? Did Amazon have any upper-body-strength issues in the early days? (the air force study called out the details of testing men vs women, which is why I ask)
(now Amazon is going to rip me a new one ....:) )



Fuck you Robo-Beaver.

Amazon can answer or not. The quesation was
addressed to her.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Georger theorized:
"Fuck you Robo-Beaver.

Amazon can answer or not. The quesation was addressed to her. "

No, Amazon can not answer or not.

(edit) The quesation, that is.

(edit) Note that hangdiver can not answer the quesation or not, neither.

(edit) Georger: look at your post. You mentioned Snowmman. That's me. You weren't looking for a response? What were you looking for then?

(edit) I just counted. It looks like you mentioned me 3 times. Possibly more than Amazon? I didn't do an exact count.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Snowman - PLEASE chill the garbage. To you this is just fun and GAMES. To others it is a matter of the truth and to ACTUALLY solve this case. I am sure everyone here who reads this forum will agree with that.

I realize that you DO not understand the advancements that have been made in this forum to the understanding of Why Cooper did what he did and the fundamental issues behind that.

In the late 1960's the government had been asked to do something to curb the hijackings by FAA. A Presidential Task force then assigned a group to do this, but their findings where ignored by the government (USA). The profile developed for a skyjumper was ignored and the problem was not addressed by the government.

When this happened the group informed the Government that ignoring the problem would only encourage and increase the number of risk takers creating a risk to the airlines and the public.

These government employees chose not to commit political suicide when Congress refused to listen to their findings. The following statement was made by an individual who help to bring these things to the forefront of the public, but his reach did not extend far enough. He nor others could stand up to our own government.

"Only a self-supporting person can safely 'stand-up' to speak the facts. (The accuracy of that statement may well be tested in the coming months by what happens to my federal consultancies)."

The study that this enerprising psychiatrist did was financed by a grant from an anonymous person...in approx 1969 and his finding where published 1971 in a book called. THE SKYJACKER His Flights of Fantasy Within the next few months, Cooper made his infamous jump which changed the course of the Government and actions finally where put in place to curtail the Hijackings.

I would therefore interject we may never know who Cooper was, but we might know WHY he will never be indentified.

In the beginning there was speculation our own government was behind Cooper - but, NO one had enough information to pursue this. After 38 yrs - perhaps it is time to revisit that particular interest - because outside of a Government Cover-up - why hasn't this crime been solved?
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Jo the crazy lady said "Snowman - PLEASE chill the garbage. To you this is just fun and GAMES. To others it is a matter of the truth and to ACTUALLY solve this case. I am sure everyone here who reads this forum will agree with that. "


Jo, I have friends who were killed as a result of researching and posting on the DBC thread. Don't get all uppity with me.

I know you will solve the case, and I have to stop you, whatever it takes.

It's just like in the movies, you know?

(edit) Jo quoted from a book "The accuracy of that statement may well be tested in the coming months by what happens to my federal consultancies."

The information from my consultancies doesn't have such a time delay. $5000 and you get first level membership in the CSG.

(edit) Jo said "I realize that you DO not understand the advancements that have been made in this forum to the understanding of Why Cooper did what he did and the fundamental issues behind that."

Yes, I don't understand those advancements.

But you and are damned fools if we expect a career man to lay that career on the line by telling Congress the truth about itself or its methods.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote

Jo said "The accuracy of that statement may well be tested in the coming months by what happens to my federal consultancies."



Excuse me I quoted that statement - you will note it was in quotations and it was made by someone else in 1971...prior to the Cooper skyjacking.

It was in retrospect a prediction or was it a warning? Do not reply until YOU read the book yourself and NOT just a preface or ending as you so accurately quoted in your own post. Your last line - I guess Italics is YOUR way of noting a quote.
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Pretty easy one. I would say he chose wisely. I think he chose what he knew. I would have done likewise. I would have gone for simple round for a night jump into trees.. less performance the better. As far as the reserve being a training prop.. most of the old belly warts that were used for training were just old worn out or older no longer used ones for doing the hanging harness. Still looks real because it probably was.. just not a current reserve.

As far as a hard pull.. one could pack one of the old rigs in such a way to make it harder to get the pins out of the cones.. not distributing the material properly.

I myself never found a problem pulling any of the ripcords on any of the old gear and trust me I jumped a LOT of old junk. Usually the adrenalin was just fine to help with any possible hard pull. My first sport rig was a sporterized surplus 4 pin rig with a Papillion in a sleeve. The reserve was a belly mount C-9 with a pilot chute.

Verying rigs had the ripcords in various places. Not a lot of standardization. Two hand was recommended if you did have a hard pull. I never have had to use two hands on ANY jump.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Georger stated:

"It fits the profile of manic depression and this is exactly what makes it difficult to judge: expert or fool. People then forget all the gray area in between and that is where the theoretical cult activity begins.
That is why we are here on a cult website devoted only to the skydiving aspect of the case?"
-----------------------------------

Jo states:
Your profile might be on target in regards to Cooper and the gray areas, but this was not a "cult" website and this thread is here to discuss the skydiving aspects of the case, but it is essential to educate the general public without the cult activity from those whose only contributions is to create "myths".

This procreation of myths has been created by those with NO knowledge other than what they derive from the internet. You and I and others have theories and suspects to present and to explore the "hows and whys" of these suspects...with the guidance of the jumpers who have been productive and have interacted to help the general public understand the "mechanics" (for lack of a better word in my simple vocabulary)as to the survival

*************************
************************
Georger stated:

"This forum is sane and polite compared to most physics discussion forums! Has Snowmmann never
told this fact? What is Snowmmann/377 hiding?"
---------------------------------

Jo States:

I do not believe 377 is hiding anything other than the possibility that he might be assisting a writer with his expertise. Other than that his post are logical and the glue that holds this thread together in most instances. He is a negotiator in all aspects.
*************************
***************************

Georger stated:
"It is nice to have all these experts here who stoutly
swear he died or he lived ... or was injured. To resolve this I always go back to Cossey who say simply: "if he got it open he lived". "

"You will find the FBI is very reluctant to talk about Cossey's statement. That fact alone answers 377's question about how much the FBI knows! The FBI
does not know how to answer Cossey's statement except to reject it, with expert testimony like Palmer's. It's like a trial at the Inqusition with one'guy off to the side Cossey/Galileo saying:
"he might have survived". "

---------------------------------
Jo State:

Cossey's statement only lends itself to my opinion and that of Hubbard. IF government involvement was involved, this would affect individuals whose reputations and futures would be grossly affected by admission of any involvement....and perhaps the only reason to create diversion from those who seek to bring an end to this unsolved event.

The LEFT hand pull question HAS never been answered by anyone.
Since I do not know what a left hand pull is - I came up with my own reasoning (it was created for a left handed person or to deliberately cause the death of the jumper).
************************
***********************


Georger stated:

"the specially packed chute Cossey provided. Neither
has Snowmmann in all his comprehensive brilliance
brought it up. Cossey's chute is key and one major reason the FBI say's Cooper died. We have other expert testimony on Cossey's hard-pull chute but
that testimony is mixed. I for one would like to read what Amazon thinks about Cossey's chute (the chute Cooper used), specifically."
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Jo States:
And so would I!

AMAZON WHERE ARE YOU?
I know it is Sat evening and you have a private life - but, please provide your opinions on this ASAP.
*************************************************


Georger Stated:

"However the found bundles arrived at Tina Bar
it appears they arrived in a protected state either
very early or after some exchange with time in another protected state, either arriving at the bar very quickly in a protected state from some point
more distant, or slowly (with very little stress) from nearby. But the bundles were covered up quickly and protected after arriving at Tina Bar. Top sand finally eroded away to expose the found bundles and a debris field ... and that is that."
--------------------------------------

Jo states:

Georger have you ever had access to that Palmer report and has anyone ever had access to it? It was created by a man who had the expertise of the time to analyze the circumstances and the money. It has been my understanding that Palmer also stated when he thought the money entered the Columbia and/or Tena's Bar.

This report not being part of the FIOA also promotes what some will consider a cover-up. I was the very first person to claim that the money was protected and not in the water or on the bar for more than 1 yr. Only because I was with a man who claimed to have been Cooper and he did throw a bag with something within it - into the Columbia just a short distance from Tena's bar.

It is essential to NOTE that in 1996, I had never heard of the Palmer report nor was I aware of its contents...until a much later date. The paper bag incident happened in 1979 and it has been part of my story since I contacted the FBI in 1996.
I knew only what I had read in a ficitonal book at that time - and did not get Himmelsbach's book until he mailed it to me a few months after my contact with the FBI.
******************************************************
**************************

Georger states:

"The issue of when the money arrived at Tina Bar could have been settled to within an error factor of only a few months, back in 1980. I have no idea why these techniques were not employed in such an important case. Perhaps it is best to leave these issues untouched, in the context of the present narrow concomitance of
this venue dejur."

---------------------------------

Jo States:

I realize you are referring to me with the concomitance of venue dejur . Another aspect to consider: If Cooper was a recruit by a group of men - bent on holding the Government accountable for their actions - would they not feel that one ex-con was expendable for the cause? Also if Cooper was left handed, this left hand pull may have been explainable only if they knew who the jumper was?

Cossey according to others has stated he prepared the chute for himself - I could never find out if Cossey was left handed. NO one ever addressed this to my satisfaction.


EDIT:
OOPS she was posting as I was posting this.


Amazon - tell me and the other whuffo's in simple language why a chute would be packed with a left hand pull.
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Okay it's about time we out 377.
Jo said "I do not believe 377 is hiding anything other than the possibility that he might be assisting a writer with his expertise."

The time I met him, he was obviously all coked up. He had white powder on his nose.

I've heard stories that women won't go on a load anymore if he's there because he's hitting on all the women even when everyone's going out the door.

There are 3 DZ's that won't let him jump anymore.

One time he showed up obviously drunk at a DZ, crashing his car into the chain link fence and flattening a tire, but nonchalantly got his rig out of the trunk, took a piss, yelled out "who's jumping with me" ....then fell over and passed out.

When he finally woke up, he started mumbling about how "..he had to do it for DBC", and "... need a ride to 18,000" as he rifled in his pockets thru a jumble of wires and knobs and random shit he's picked up at flea markets.

The guy is psycho, a danger to himself, a danger to anyone who rides in his car, a danger to anyone who jumps with him.

He's got outstanding parole violations in 5 states on the east coast, so can never travel east.

He steals food out of grocery stores, and I've never seen him pay for a jump ticket.

His wife finally ditched him when he lit the house on fire with a flamethrower he had bought. His kids walk on the other side of the street whenever he goes anywhere with them.

He's got subscriptions to just about every porn site on the web.

He's evil, stupid, a liar, bad at telling jokes, has bad breath, farts and always drains the beer pitcher.

He's perfect for this thread.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote

Snowman - PLEASE chill the garbage. To you this is just fun and GAMES. To others it is a matter of the truth and to ACTUALLY solve this case. I am sure everyone here who reads this forum will agree with that.



I will say this: Snowmman does appear to spend
every moment awake riding this forum, as if his life
depended on it? When does he feed his kids and dogs and antennas and lastly, his wife!? 377 is a
close second but divorced. That's not a judgement, just an observation. Each to his own cave.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote

Jo the crazy lady said "Snowman - PLEASE chill the garbage. To you this is just fun and GAMES. To others it is a matter of the truth and to ACTUALLY solve this case. I am sure everyone here who reads this forum will agree with that. "


Jo, I have friends who were killed as a result of researching and posting on the DBC thread. Don't get all uppity with me.



Really!?

Has Homeland Security been informed?

FU Beaver.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote

Pretty easy one. I would say he chose wisely. I think he chose what he knew. I would have done likewise. I would have gone for simple round for a night jump into trees.. less performance the better. As far as the reserve being a training prop.. most of the old belly warts that were used for training were just old worn out or older no longer used ones for doing the hanging harness. Still looks real because it probably was.. just not a current reserve.

As far as a hard pull.. one could pack one of the old rigs in such a way to make it harder to get the pins out of the cones.. not distributing the material properly.

I myself never found a problem pulling any of the ripcords on any of the old gear and trust me I jumped a LOT of old junk. Usually the adrenalin was just fine to help with any possible hard pull. My first sport rig was a sporterized surplus 4 pin rig with a Papillion in a sleeve. The reserve was a belly mount C-9 with a pilot chute.

Verying rigs had the ripcords in various places. Not a lot of standardization. Two hand was recommended if you did have a hard pull. I never have had to use two hands on ANY jump.



The only reason I bring the pull up, is because Cossey did. Cossey said the pull on that chute
required two distinct movements - out, then up
hard. Cossey said without those two distinct and
separate movements Cooper would not get the
chute open (most likely). It was a chute Cossey
had packed for himself left at the jump school.
When Cossey found out the chute had been taken he was (visibly) upset (and still is?). This particular
chute was NOT one Cossey would have chosen to be sent to the plane. Cossey provided two additional
chutes which were reliable (he says).

Thanks.
G.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote

Quote

Snowman - PLEASE chill the garbage. To you this is just fun and GAMES. To others it is a matter of the truth and to ACTUALLY solve this case. I am sure everyone here who reads this forum will agree with that.



I will say this: Snowmman does appear to spend
every moment awake riding this forum, as if his life
depended on it? When does he feed his kids and dogs and antennas and lastly, his wife!? 377 is a
close second but divorced. That's not a judgement, just an observation. Each to his own cave.



I spend every moment awake riding this forum.
My life depends on it.
Conspiracies are all around me. If I go to sleep, they move in closer.
(edit) cave: I actually re-found a little wooden thing in the woods today. It was collapsed, but up above it, I thought there was a little cave like opening. Just body sized. I was tempted to squeeze in, but no light. Maybe another day!
What a coincidence..

(edit) Georger: please don't read my posts.
(edit) Georger: please don't fantasize about me.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

50 50