DB Cooper

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When Duane and I left Portland we went to Tahoe and he pointed up a road into the hills (I NOW know these were mountains) and told me he used to live up there and mentioned an address with a number in it - Like Eighteen mile road or Seventeen Mile Road as a place "we" used to live.

That would be:

7 Mile Canyon Rd, Sparks, NV 89434

No, It was Eight Mile House Road near Camino. I had written it down, but the new roads and maps wiped it out.

The old maps didn't show all of that developement .

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

[snowmman 3]

Was at a stop light in the rain, and this guy rolls up next to me in a white 1976 Cadillac Seville. He's got the rap thumping, and his windows are open even though it's raining.

I think nothing of it, as he guns it on the green. I take my time because I know the lights aren't synchronized. As his rear flashes by, I notice he's got the weirdest bumper sticker.

I roll down my window and yell to him "where'd you get it" and he yells "what?" "The bumper sticker"..."Oh yeah, everyone wants..Some dude on ebay sells them.. he's always sold out so you have to watch for when they come in"

I dunno. I think there's a revolution brewing. This may be a rallying point.

(attached. I finally got one of them..but from a vendor at the weekly flea market)

[skyjack71 0]

I finally did it. I did it. I did it.
Duane Weber WAS Dan Cooper.
I was told a long time ago that maybe just maybe I was sitting on information I didn't know I had.....I WAS. I really was.

If any of you want to help - GO to Camp Bonneville - FIND OUT who was housed there in the early months of 1945...and how many salletite camps did they have and WHAT their main FUNCTION was during that yr.
Talk to historian and older people in WA and find out what was going on in the area in 1945.
What big SECRET was our government keeping????

Our GOVERNMENT has his TOO many secrets TOO long.
IT is TIME FOR THE TRUTH.
Secrets kept by our government in 1945 need to be made public.

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

[georger 244]

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I finally did it. I did it. I did it.
Duane Weber WAS Dan Cooper.
I was told a long time ago that maybe just maybe I was sitting on information I didn't know I had.....I WAS. I really was.

If any of you want to help - GO to Camp Bonneville - FIND OUT who was housed there in the early months of 1945...and how many salletite camps did they have and WHAT their main FUNCTION was during that yr.
Talk to historian and older people in WA and find out what was going on in the area in 1945.
What big SECRET was our government keeping????

Our GOVERNMENT has his TOO many secrets TOO long.
IT is TIME FOR THE TRUTH.
Secrets kept by our government in 1945 need to be made public.

1945 Moulin Rouge - 56 Paris 1945 et 57 Just a Gigolo - Féérie.wmv ...Musique du Moulin Rouge de la revue Féerie : 56 Paris 1945 et 57 Just a Gigolo Song-O-Music-Hall.skyblog.com. Musique du Moulin Rouge de la revue Féerie ...
video.aol.co.uk/video-detail/moulinrouge...1945.

Moulin Rouge songs - "One day I'll fly away" un le "Elephante Amoure" (Eelephant Love) medley etu. Added to Moulin Rouge in 1956 as well as other secret content only revealed to certain movie goers.
You had to have welder's glasses to see it.

[snowmman 3]

man, the orders are rolling in.
This is like when we were printing money, only it's legal.
Stimulus unneeded, we're hiring for second shifts.

New one attached.

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I finally did it. I did it. I did it.
Duane Weber WAS Dan Cooper.

Finally? I thought you found this out many many posts ago Jo.

What EVIDENCE do you have? Or is this another tease followed by unfulfilled promises to reveal the evidence later?

377

2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

[skyjack71 0]

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I finally did it. I did it. I did it.
Duane Weber WAS Dan Cooper.

Finally? I thought you found this out many many posts ago Jo.

What EVIDENCE do you have? Or is this another tease followed by unfulfilled promises to reveal the evidence later?

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I was ADVISED NOT to tell "the solution and evidence trail" in a forum or other public media, because it would result in the same senarior experienced by the Jon Bennet Ramsey story. Until I get legal advise from someone who is licensed in these matters and can present me and protect any rights I have - this will not be revealed even to the DAMN FBI or any government agency. I will say I put the solution right in their laps in 1997 or in a reasonalable time period there of - but, they chose willfully to ignore me.

The answers will embarass the hell out of the FBI and/or present one of the oldest cover-ups our government has ever participated in. Whatever the reason - it was NOT fair for 14 yrs of my life to be taken away from me - when the solution was a matter of record....

I will be posting NO new information to this forum, but I will answer questions - reasonable questions that I can be answered referring only to things that have already been discussed.

Sluggo, you didn't have to bury any money in those cemetaries.
Hope you managed to get rosters of all who were buried there up until 1971... Oh, by the way that may be a very misleading lead or maybe it was DEAD on.

377, You say you are an attorney - don't goad me about riddles, because YOU should know the LAW. What has been found has been LONG over due.
We were on the right trail several months ago - where I went in the very beginning is turning out to be the ending. That my dear sir is a riddle - but, it has a very specific meaning and is not intented to be a tease or a riddle.

Everyone including Grey and Cook and the forum and journalists - who have expended time collecting evidence and trying to TOOT their suspects - had they spent all of that money and time on Weber - the answers would have been available several yrs ago...but it should have been seen by the FBI in 1997.

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

[snowmman 3]

I am licensed in all aspects of DB Cooper investigations, both domestic and international.

Rights? You have no rights. Get over it.

[snowmman 3]

Jo please do not post any more information to the forum. It's too dangerous.

Duane was Cooper.

1945 was just a rehearsal!

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The answers will embarrass the hell out of the FBI and/or present one of the oldest cover-ups our government has ever participated in.

If the Roswell alien coverup doesn't embarrass the FBI what makes you think anything about Duane Weber will?

Post your story online with the following notice:

Copyright 2010, Jo Weber
All rights reserved.

No need to register the copyright but if you want to, do it yourself, don't hire a lawyer to do it. Its dirt simple.

See:

http://www.copyright.gov/

Snow is right. You don't have many rights. If you publish an original work of authorship and copyright it you have some limited protection against copying, but don't expect Hollywood to beat down your door with offers. The idea for an unpublished story is easy to rip off, a screenplay or book manuscript a bit more difficult.

You cant even put Duane in a chute yet you claim he was Cooper. The tease continues.

Yawnnnn... zzzzzz.

377

2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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I was ADVISED NOT to tell "the solution and evidence trail" in a forum or other public media

Who are your advisors? Is that a secret too?

They probably have lots of licenses. That's a good thing.

Keep taking their advice. Follow it precisely. Don't waver or deviate.

I wish I had "advisors". I am tired of making bad descisions.

Snow, do you have advisors? Georger?

377

2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

[snowmman 3]

not sure how this fits in the case or where it came from, but I'm pretty sure it's a piece of the puzzle.

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I'm pretty sure it's a piece of the puzzle.

There is no puzzle, only a wait until Jo's advisors let her present the evidence conclusively proving that Duane was Cooper.

Galen Cook should be relieved that Jo tipped him in time to avoid publishing a book destined to be discredited.

There is no body in the Death Woods Jerry. You'll need another excuse to visit those Washougal cabin widows.

Duane pulled. He had Ranger training, avoided the river and did a great PLF.

Nobody could fly an unmodified C9 like Duane Weber, no sir, nobody. Slips, 4 line cuts, riser turns, Duane knew all the tricks.

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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I'm pretty sure it's a piece of the puzzle.

There is no puzzle, only a wait until Jo's advisors let her present the evidence conclusively proving that Duane was Cooper.

Galen Cook should be relieved that Jo tipped him in time to avoid publishing a book destined to be discredited.

There is no body in the Death Woods Jerry. You'll need another excuse to visit those Washougal cabin widows.

Duane pulled. He had Ranger training, avoided the river and did a great PLF.

Nobody could fly an unmodified C9 like Duane Weber, no sir, nobody. Slips, 4 line cuts, riser turns, Duane knew all the tricks.

377

you know how many times that claim has been made in this thread

By the way I was thinking if a couple of us get together there is a patent in the waiting here. Think about it some 25 000 posts to convey the simple information "Duane was Cooper" surely if we can figure out the compression algorithm behind that it would be one of the most efficient ever If that fails to fly we could always try using this approach in reverse as encryption...

Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

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All,


This morning Galen Cook posted an “Open Letter” addressed to Mr. Ralph Himmelsbach FBI (Ret) on the NORJAK Forum.

The letter has some pretty astonishing claims in it!

I haven’t made up my mind about the purpose of the post or the validity of the claims, but I don’t mind (at all) using the bandwidth to allow Galen to get his word out. It could just be pre-publication hype, or maybe Ralph (and the FBI) have been sitting on some critical information all these years.

You can see the post at Letter To Himmelsbach.

This is a good channel to communicate directly with Galen.


Sluggo

NOTE: I know Ralph doesn’t usually monitor any of the forums and/or blogs re: NORJAK on the internet. Would someone who frequently communicates with Ralph (Jerry Thomas, Jo Weber, etc) please let him know about the letter.


All rights reserved, all wrongs reversed.

Web Page
Blog
NORJAK Forum

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For those who didn't read Galens letter to Himmelsbach the basics are that witnesses near Vancouver WA saw a flaming red light fall from (apparently) a southbound aircraft on the night of Norjack around 8 PM. It was reported to the FBI. One witness was then visited by a man in a dark suit and was told to "keep his f---ing mouth shut".

Well this is more to my liking. UFOs, MIBs. Bring it on.

On the serious side, assuming that a falling red burning object was actually seen, what is Galen hinting at? Did Cooper ignite and toss a flare as a marker? Was the bomb real and did it ignite after being tossed out?

My experience with FBI innocent witness interviews is that the agents are unfailingly polite. The reported hostility and rudeness makes little sense.

377

2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

[snowmman 3]

The funny thing about the Cooper story, is all these players.

Just when you think they couldn't be nuttier, they are.


I found a picture from that 1971 fireball event. There were a large number of witnesses as seen in the photo.

[snowmman 3]

at sluggo's site (It's interesting how sluggo tried to say his site would keep out the riff-raff, yet the loonies post there?). Galen Cook explained the money find. He said (apparently the result of info from an interview and serious scientific investigation.).


1) More money packets may have been buried at a different level, or, even in another hole nearby at a different depth.

2) Who's to say for sure that fragments were found at "3 feet?" The FBI agent I interviewed (who was on site during the week of 2/12/10) never observed that.

3) Sand at Tena's is not stable. There is a subsurface shifting mechanism, as was proven in one of our experiments.


Me, I'll stick with my flock of white-t-shirt wearing lovelies.

Don't you love it when people try to B.S. and they use big words as if that means they are being scientific.

"subsurface shifting mechanism"

Don't UFOs use that to go thru worm holes also?

(edit) Me I like the theory that Cheney was Cooper, and threw the money bag up in the air and blasted it, creating the fragments.

There is DNA evidence tying Cheney to Cooper. here:
http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i28613

[Farflung 0]

It was a dark and stormy night (cue thunder claps). It was cold enough to freeze a man solid within three minutes and the smallest amount of moisture cause a canopy to remain inside the backpack. Horrible, un-survivable, sleet driven by winds in excess of 100 miles per hour churned over the vast towering stands of coniferous forest like sentinels on constant guard reminding man just how delicate of a hold he has on life.

Thick roiling cloud layers over a quarter mile in depth writhed in a hypnotic pattern which promised certain death to those foolish enough to penetrate their margins with flimsy flying machines. Just the type of meteorological conditions which many a seasoned pilot has had to face while steadily illuminating the 'Fasten Seat Belt/ No Smoking' sign and suspending beverage service.

Well, that's the sort of hyperbole I've read involving the weather conditions on Cooper-ween. Now there are people who can identify a south bound (and up) aircraft which has jettisoned some sort of flaming debris. My suspension of disbelief is high enough to give me an intellectual wedgie. Now there are numerous citizens scanning the night skies on a day which must have been quite pleasant and relatively cloud free (cue Theremin for that pulsating sound associated with creepy stuff in B movies).

Stay tuned for next weeks episode of 'I was a Teenage D B', where we will find the Trinity explosion was a mere distraction from the 'Real Secrets' the government was hiding. Will citizens finally feel safe in their own homes? Does pleasant weather exist in the PNW? If Obama is our 44th President why is one missing? Is this missing Prez the long hidden government secret and the true D B Cooper? (cue 'Dum Dee Dum Dum' from Dragnet).

Will this long national nightmare finally come to an end? What about the children? Under the advise of attorney, we absolutely cannot disclose any of this information but oddly will reveal the government will soon be exposed in malfeasance of Titanic proportions without concern for personal safety or linear thought. Stay tuned.

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What EVIDENCE do you have? Or is this another tease followed by unfulfilled promises to reveal the evidence later?

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Answers:
1. None
2. Yes

Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

[snowmman 3]

good job farflung..I was laughing.
I love the moby dick picture.

Why do people bother with Himmelsbach? He's just as nutty as the rest.

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All,


This morning Galen Cook posted an “Open Letter” addressed to Mr. Ralph Himmelsbach FBI (Ret) on the NORJAK Forum.

The letter has some pretty astonishing claims in it!

I haven’t made up my mind about the purpose of the post or the validity of the claims, but I don’t mind (at all) using the bandwidth to allow Galen to get his word out. It could just be pre-publication hype, or maybe Ralph (and the FBI) have been sitting on some critical information all these years.

You can see the post at Letter To Himmelsbach.

This is a good channel to communicate directly with Galen.


Sluggo

NOTE: I know Ralph doesn’t usually monitor any of the forums and/or blogs re: NORJAK on the internet. Would someone who frequently communicates with Ralph (Jerry Thomas, Jo Weber, etc) please let him know about the letter.


All rights reserved, all wrongs reversed.

Hm. Sounds like Galen and Jo should get together with their cover-up stories. At least until Galen can tell us who the witness was. Oh wait... I guess we'll have to buy the book for that?

Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

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Don't you love it when people try to B.S. and they use big words as if that means they are being scientific.

Yeah, I do love it. That crypto flim flam science prose is cool. The MDs think most chiropractic terminology fits that description.

Hey, it's what you have to do when you can't present credible equations or double blind randomized clinical data.

Snow, two women apply to join our science teams. One has a PhD in a hard science but has ordinary looks, the other is a cosmetology school diplomate, looks hot and has won a few dropzone wet t-shirt contests.

We'd never run into any hiring conflicts I'll bet.

What are Tom's hiring criteria?

Himmelsbach flew P 51s in military service. That makes him AOK with me. Maybe he knew Thomas Mantell.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantell_UFO_incident

Those postwar P 51 jocks learned that you don't mess with UFOs. No wonder they hushed up the Norjack fireball witnesses.

Jo knows what is being covered up, but she has been advised not to tell us.

The FBI has been advised not to tell Jo the truth.

Advisors control everything, as they should.

377

2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

[Farflung 0]

snowman,


Those unknown explosions which create oft witnessed mushroom clouds have long held me transfixed.

From the earlier productions of 'The Day the Earth Stood Still' and 'The Blob' which inspired me to poke things with a stick that I did not understand. To atomic sized ants on a man eating quest for sugar cubes in 'Them', made nuclear energy seem a worrisome technology for sure.

Then came the 'Wasp Woman' and 'Attack of the 50 Foot Woman' with Susan Cabot who could sting me anytime and Allison Hayes at 50 feet was worth the climb and just in time for puberty. Hey, this atomic thing wasn't all bad.

Spotting anachronisms has never been a national strength. Giant ants clearly would not have the mandible dexterity to handle something the size of a sugar cube. Additionally would anyone believe men would actually run away from a 50 foot woman after crashing their car? I didn't think so.

Many years later I'm cruising the country side of central Kansas being all cool and hunky while passing a billboard for the 'Largest Atomic Cannon.' This had it all, the word Atomic, a cannon and no doubt, some pictures of things that blowed up real good. Man 'O man, along with the 'Deepest Hand Dug Well' and 'Oldest Continuously Operating Light Bulb in a Freestanding, Public Structure' I had to see this thing.

After looking over the Atomic super gun I asked where the main attraction was located. You know, the cannon which should draw the most ooohhhhs and aahhhhs.....that's right, the World's SMALLEST Atomic Cannon. Launching a nuclear weapon from a huge artillery piece may excite the less educated but I knew full well, the guys operating the smallest atomic cannon had the largest stones.

Blank stares of disbelief from the sort of confusion generated when one speaks Esperanto or that African dialect comprised of clicks and smacking sounds. But it was on that grassy knoll that I vowed one day to discover the source of the smallest atomic cannon. Here decades later I have managed to move no closer to that goal. Calls to other atomic cannon display sites have curators and docents happily informing me they have the largest (insert qualifier) cannon. Damn it, will I ever know?

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Those unknown explosions which create oft witnessed mushroom clouds have long held me transfixed.

Me too!

There are some episodes that never made the major press. In the late 70s a solo female sailor in a Suntory sponsored sailboat race from the US to Japan made a frantic radio call saying she was witnessing an atomic explosion and feared for her life. Her description was nearly identical to the one supplied by the JAL 747 crew, but took place years earlier than their sighting. Many thought she was hallucinating from lack of sleep, but the later JAL accounts make me think she saw exactly the same phenomena.

No light flash. No residual radioactivity. No sesimic event at the reported musroom cloud location.

What could it have been?


http://www.nytimes.com/1985/05/21/science/a-year-after-mushroom-cloud-the-mystery-lingers.html?&pagewanted=1

377

2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.