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QuoteLess than a year after Cooper's caper there was a horrendous crash of a "civilian F-86" (N275X) into an ice cream parlor in Sacramento, CA. More than 20 people were killed and more than 20 were seriously burned when that aircraft failed to lift off and had little distance to decelerate from 130 knots.
I remember that crash well. The pilot rotated too soon and too much and porpoised. The pilot survived. The F 86 was owned by a cosmetics magnate, Wm. Penn Patrick who died soon after in the crash of his P 51 Mustang.
The F 86 pilot got praise from some quarters for not ejecting and staying with the plane in a last minute effort to get it airborne or steered away from occupied buildings The F 86 ejection seat was not capable of successful zero zero ejections so it was a moot point.
The plane was actually a Canadian version of the F 86 with a more powerful engine than most US versions. If only the pilot had waited until reaching proper airspeed for rotation and not overrotated he would have gotten airborne and cleared the hazard.
Bruce, while you are doing remote viewing and time travel to solve aviation mysteries, please drop in on that Air France jet that came apart over the Atlantic outbound from Brazil. They never found the FDRs and although much wreckage was recovered, the root cause is still not known with certainty. They may have just flown into severely turbulent weather and it came undone.
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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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QuoteSluggo
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High praise indeed. We mortals can only aspire to Gortdom.
Had a good email chat with Galen Cook. Nothing new, but he is seriously pursuing some leads and has the legal skills needed to open some doors. These things move slowly hence the delay in publishing his book.
As before, he thinks he has the right suspect, Gossett, but is still open minded. He is no nut case, far far from it in my opinion.
Jo keeps promising to blow the lid off the case. Is it just another tease? Probably, but hope springs eternal.
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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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377,
You have some great powers of recall. The 'Cosmetics Magnate' owned a company called Holiday Magic (yeah that one) which also held the distinction of being the largest Ponzi scheme in US history. Since eclipsed by Madoff and a dozen others.
His empire was in deep decline and under siege from the FTC, IRS and several states for fraudulent business practices.
His fleet of aircraft included the P-51 he crashed and two Canadian F-86 fighters. The law prohibits private citizens from purchasing an American F-86 but had no problem with Patrick purchasing a Canadian version. So far so good.
So Mr. Cosmetics claims the F-86 was to be used to advertise his ladies make-up and lotions. The IRS was fine with that but put that pesky fiscal year deadline of 30 September in the mix along with a basic requirement for use and display. Yep, the plane was barely out of the shop when the accident pilot received his 'training' and put on an ambitious exhibition schedule. In fact, Sacramento was the second display (24 Sept 72) with another scheduled the following day in Concord, CA. The F-86 instructor pilot was laid off and the less experienced (code for cheaper) pilot retained.
The more I researched this story, the more it made me sick. William Penn Patrick had six days previous to the Sacramento crash been found liable in the death of a lawyer named Dedina who had his plane serviced by Patrick's organization. Apparently Dedina was in communications with ATC during his mishap where he could not pull his plane out of a trim tab induced dive.
In addition to his crashes was the unsolved burning of a plane that State Senator Murphy had chartered from Patrick. This guy should have been associated with some red flags.
Before Patrick's death and after the Sacramento crash (8 month window) a California Superior Court Judge threw out a lawsuit Patrick filed against a newspaper reporter that had published an article about Patrick's careless operations at his home airport. Un-freakin-believable.
So there you have it. The cause of the Sacramento crash was the pilots over-rotation of the accident aircraft.
You have some great powers of recall. The 'Cosmetics Magnate' owned a company called Holiday Magic (yeah that one) which also held the distinction of being the largest Ponzi scheme in US history. Since eclipsed by Madoff and a dozen others.
His empire was in deep decline and under siege from the FTC, IRS and several states for fraudulent business practices.
His fleet of aircraft included the P-51 he crashed and two Canadian F-86 fighters. The law prohibits private citizens from purchasing an American F-86 but had no problem with Patrick purchasing a Canadian version. So far so good.
So Mr. Cosmetics claims the F-86 was to be used to advertise his ladies make-up and lotions. The IRS was fine with that but put that pesky fiscal year deadline of 30 September in the mix along with a basic requirement for use and display. Yep, the plane was barely out of the shop when the accident pilot received his 'training' and put on an ambitious exhibition schedule. In fact, Sacramento was the second display (24 Sept 72) with another scheduled the following day in Concord, CA. The F-86 instructor pilot was laid off and the less experienced (code for cheaper) pilot retained.
The more I researched this story, the more it made me sick. William Penn Patrick had six days previous to the Sacramento crash been found liable in the death of a lawyer named Dedina who had his plane serviced by Patrick's organization. Apparently Dedina was in communications with ATC during his mishap where he could not pull his plane out of a trim tab induced dive.
In addition to his crashes was the unsolved burning of a plane that State Senator Murphy had chartered from Patrick. This guy should have been associated with some red flags.
Before Patrick's death and after the Sacramento crash (8 month window) a California Superior Court Judge threw out a lawsuit Patrick filed against a newspaper reporter that had published an article about Patrick's careless operations at his home airport. Un-freakin-believable.
So there you have it. The cause of the Sacramento crash was the pilots over-rotation of the accident aircraft.
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As a kid in Sacramento, I remember seeing the huge black smoke cloud rising up after the Farrels crash. Turns out a few of the kids that died were from my sister's jr. HS class. The plane rotated but didn't clear an embankment at the end of the rwy. IIRC, the pilot lived.
EDIT: Just read your post 377. Nice detals. The whole thing was pretty freaky because it was the closest I, my sister, and most of our friends had been to other kids who died.
"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG
EDIT: Just read your post 377. Nice detals. The whole thing was pretty freaky because it was the closest I, my sister, and most of our friends had been to other kids who died.
"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG
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What are we going to do with these humans?
I do have news but may just give it to Sluggo
and he can decide if it merits posting - Sluggo
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