quade 4 #17901 June 28, 2010 Jerry, I think you think I care one way or the other. I don't. I'm simply giving you options.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryThomas 0 #17902 June 28, 2010 Paul . Why? Option's please Itemize them But by all means give yourself the same options and all on drop zone to in clude the owner's .It's only. Fair. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryThomas 0 #17903 June 28, 2010 Paul. If you don't care. Why Be the Moderator.Better yet Why allow people to post lie's and fiction.Its your call and an answer Im sure .Im not the only one interested in And would like to here . Why would a leader say they don't care. Or you Obamanated .Or do you realy care.Jerry Thomas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #17904 June 28, 2010 If you want to believe you've somehow have me in a tizzy over this and my blood pressure has risen even one point above normal over . . . fine . . . whatever, believe what you want. However if you, Jerry Thomas, want to have "control of your own envirement", my suggestion remains the same, create your own environment on Yahoo. You'll be in complete control and you'll be able to boot anyone from it whose story you don't agree with. The only thing I don't understand in all of this is why you haven't done that before. You or ANY of the people that complain about this thread are more than welcome to. Nobody is stopping you. Trust me, if you think I don't care about DB Cooper or this thread, the owners of the web site care even less.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryThomas 0 #17905 June 28, 2010 Paul. Your Right. On part of it . But for once in your life stand up to your belief's and not to me, even though I up set you . Do the right thing. It's your choice . One Real problem you do care otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned it so many time's.Now Jo its time for you to shut down .It's time for yor to get thing's right with reality. If you are as sick as you say you are then Its time to Repent. However I'm sure that you we'll Be around for a while according to your Friends . Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #17906 June 28, 2010 QuoteIf you are as sick as you say you are then Its time to Repent. Oh you must really have me confused with somebody else!quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #17907 June 28, 2010 Quote Paul. Your Right. On part of it . But for once in your life stand up to your belief's and not to me, even though I up set you . Do the right thing. It's your choice . One Real problem you do care otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned it so many time's.Now Jo its time for you to shut down .It's time for yor to get thing's right with reality. If you are as sick as you say you are then Its time to Repent. However I'm sure that you we'll Be around for a while according to your Friends . Jerry How 'bout them CUBS? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryThomas 0 #17908 June 28, 2010 Paul. Doubt it. Splash. You do care. Other wise you would not be the moderator. If you realy care turn it over to me. Then The only post's will be accurate. I'm sure you will not do that . Because you are a power Mate. Unlike you I am Not. To many years in charge. So If you have the gut's .Or The brains turn the thread over to me. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryThomas 0 #17909 June 28, 2010 airtwardo. Recon their doing fine . and you. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guru312 0 #17910 June 28, 2010 Quoteairtwardo. Recon their doing fine . and you. Jerry Whoooosh....right over.Guru312 I am not DB Cooper Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryThomas 0 #17911 June 28, 2010 Paul . How Did you interperet that comment Directed to your Buddy, And best friend, Jo Webber. One question How is she realy doing. I know Do You. Grow up Kid. Its time you do the right thing and talk to all your subject's. Either by Phoe or Email. The rest will contact you . Only If you allow it . Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #17912 June 28, 2010 QuotePaul. Doubt it. Splash. You do care. Other wise you would not be the moderator. If you realy care turn it over to me. Then The only post's will be accurate. I'm sure you will not do that . Because you are a power Mate. Unlike you I am Not. To many years in charge. So If you have the gut's .Or The brains turn the thread over to me. Jerry You don't get it do you? Quade is not in charge. He simply the referee in this forum (History and Trivia) and a couple others. His (unpaid) job is to make sure the rules of the board are followed. Nothing more or less. If you don't follow the rules, he gives you a vacation. If you think others aren't following the rules, PM your complaints and he may give them a vacation. There's nothing in the rules that require truth. He does this because he cares about the board overall. I know he has gotten a lot of pressure to shut this thread down completely. I'm glad it is still going (the final decision may or may not have been his). There is a lot of stuff in this thread that probably wouldn't stay up if it was in other threads. There's also a lot of people who only post in this thread and don't jump. The one in charge is Sangrio. It's his website. He choses who is a mod. He's the one who could "turn the thread over" to you. You might PM him about that. But I wouldn't recommend it. Oh yeah, FWIW - The Cooper articles were in Parachutist magazine (published by USPA) in Nov 03 and the three part in May, June and July of 10. All by the same person, mostly good facts, a few minor errors. All stuff that has been covered here. I haven't been able to scan the old one in yet. I've tried a couple different times. My acess to scanners is kind of limited."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryThomas 0 #17913 June 28, 2010 wolfriverjoe. Its you that controls all So you are responseble for all the lie's being told on drop Zone , wow! maybe it's time that you. Confront me An choose the Poster's . Other wise post your reasons to be involved in this case to onclude Your full name and address and Phone # . Or Back off.Beter Yet Poist your Full name and phone # to include address . or shut up Jerry Thomas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #17914 June 28, 2010 QuoteOr The brains turn the thread over to me. Jerry Jerry, I really don't think you understand how things work around here and it's taken us, what, maybe 10 posts to get to the truth of the situation here? That you want to be "in charge" and deny other people an opportunity to voice their opinions, stories and theories. As I've already said, if you want to do that, you can do it. It's within your power -- just not here.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #17915 June 28, 2010 Quoteor shut up Jerry Thomas Jerry, What are you going to do? Ban him? You can try, but I don't think you have access to those functions here.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #17916 June 28, 2010 Quote Oh yeah, FWIW - The Cooper articles were in Parachutist magazine (published by USPA) in Nov 03 and the three part in May, June and July of 10. All by the same person, mostly good facts, a few minor errors. All stuff that has been covered here. I haven't been able to scan the old one in yet. I've tried a couple different times. My acess to scanners is kind of limited. I sure wish someone would make that information available here so I could see what you guys are talking about. Two women for the Senior center jumped a few weeks ago (Emerald Coast Skydivers). Both in their 70's, but I would be terrified with my bones and overall health. None of my friends or family would ever talk about my heath with Jerry or others...sure would appreciate it if he would name the individuals. I am one of those non-jumpers but my interest involves a jumping incident and why I came to DZ for help...and I have gotten a lot of if - and appreciate the opportunities this forum has provided. I remain steadfast in my belief that Duane Weber was Cooper in the face of NEW things made available through readers of this forum and those this forum has put me in touch with. We have agreed and disagreed, but in general everyone is considerate of the other parties opinions. Those are the ones who make this deserving of History and Trivia. There is no place in this thread for berating, name calling and "junk" for the lack of a better name which only belittles all of the hard work put into this by people who would really like to solve the case. If I had done what Jerry has done for the last page - I would have gotten a vacation and Snowmman got a permanent one.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #17917 June 28, 2010 Quotewolfriverjoe. Its you that controls all So you are responseble for all the lie's being told on drop Zone , wow! maybe it's time that you. Confront me An choose the Poster's . Other wise post your reasons to be involved in this case to onclude Your full name and address and Phone # . Or Back off.Beter Yet Poist your Full name and phone # to include address . or shut up Jerry Thomas Look at my profile. Full name. Enough info to find the rest if you look just a bit. I post on here because it is fun and interesting. Probably the same as everyone else. I had a book of short stories about "Unsolved Crimes" back in elementary school. It had the Cooper case in it. I found this thread and I enjoy chasing down the mystery, even though I don't believe it will ever be truly solved. And no it is not I that "controls all" its Sangrio. You can try to confront him and choose the posters, but beware of his fork. And the only lies I am responsible for are when I put a number other that "0" for my first entry in the "weekend numbers" threads. You know the difference between a fairy tale and a skydiving story don't you? A fairy tale begins: Once upon a time... A skydiving story begins: No shit, there I was, thought I was gonna die..."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hangdiver 1 #17918 June 28, 2010 QuoteA skydiving story begins: No shit, there I was, thought I was gonna die... I thought it was: No shit, there I was, on fire, beer in one hand, both cut away handle and reserve handle in the other at 500' with nothing out...thought I was gonna die... And by the way Jerry... if I make an ass out of myself on the internet at least no one knows my real name...well a few do but they ain't telling. "Mans got to know his limitations" Harry Callahan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #17919 June 28, 2010 QuoteQuoteA skydiving story begins: No shit, there I was, thought I was gonna die... I thought it was: No shit, there I was, on fire, beer in one hand, both cut away handle and reserve handle in the other at 500' with nothing out...thought I was gonna die... And by the way Jerry... if I make an ass out of myself on the internet at least no one knows my real name...well a few do but they ain't telling. No shit there I was...1000 feet goin' terminal with nuthin' in my hands but a silkworm and a knitting needle. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hangdiver 1 #17920 June 28, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteA skydiving story begins: No shit, there I was, thought I was gonna die... I thought it was: No shit, there I was, on fire, beer in one hand, both cut away handle and reserve handle in the other at 500' with nothing out...thought I was gonna die... And by the way Jerry... if I make an ass out of myself on the internet at least no one knows my real name...well a few do but they ain't telling. No shit there I was...1000 feet goin' terminal with nuthin' in my hands but a silkworm and a knitting needle. Yep, that's some funny shit! "Mans got to know his limitations" Harry Callahan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #17921 June 28, 2010 QuoteIf I had done what Jerry has done for the last page - I would have gotten a vacation and Snowmman got a permanent one. The difference being is that Snowman became an on-going problem and felt "entitled" to have free reign over the thread for awhile before he finally challenged me to ban him. I assume yesterday's issue with JerryThomas was an anomaly. He's never done it before, so I'm cutting him slack, as I usually do whenever somebody comes after me specifically. I figure most people go off the deep end occasionally and me getting the brunt of their anger comes with the territory. That said, there are limits to how much BS even I'm willing to put up with.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #17922 June 29, 2010 By the time I do what I have to do - cook, eat, read the newspaper and do my puzzles and perhaps a little laundry - I have little time on my hands. Takes All Day to do what I did in 2 hours just a short time ago - well, it seems like a short time ago You start to realize there was so much you wanted to do and dreamed of doing and now you can't do them. It catches up REAL fast - so I have a little advice to give those who put off things - DO it NOW, because you might NOT be able to do it later. Todays paper had something I want to share - because it made me think of others who finally got it right. An ARTICLE by Linda Himelstein: Titled: Judging the Value of Redemption Below is just a summary of her story so I hope she is not offended by this. This was a story about a Boston juvenile court lawyer by the name of Rick Dyer age 58. Nearly 50 yrs ago Dyer was a glue sniffing kid and his raps sheet covered more than 10 yrs of felony convictions to grand larcency. Today he is a respected member of the bar in Boston. Sober and straight for 30 yrs. This attorney turned his life around because there was a judge named Charles "Chick" Artesani who never gave up on him and repeatedly sentenced Dyer to prison, but drug treatment and psychological assistance over jail whenever it was an option. This judge helped Dyer get into law school in 1980 and win Dukakis'pardon. Influential Bostonians are requesting Dyer be consider for an appointment as a judge. Dyer was given a FULL pardon in 1983. 65% of the U.S. prison population is drug related. This attorney has been there and still bears the scars on his arms from yrs of needle use. He seems to have dedicated himself to helping young men like himself. I know how I feel about this lawyer becoming a judge - but, I want to know how others feel about it. My opinion is that he needs to stay a lawyer and decline if appointed this judgeship. My reasoning being - I believe he can do MORE good where he is. As a judge - he will only be facilitating the system and not have the first hand information to help these young offenders as he does now. This is OFF subject, but not really from my point of view. Duane although Not a drug user changed his life - and others are doing the same. I am afraid this brilliant lawyer who should be applauded for his accomplishment - will be less effective as a judge in the goals he has set for himself...and cause himself stress in doing so. I just wonder how others might feel about this lawyer being a judge.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #17923 June 29, 2010 QuoteI know how I feel about this lawyer becoming a judge - but, I want to know how others feel about it. My opinion is that he needs to stay a lawyer and decline if appointed this judgeship. My reasoning being - I believe he can do MORE good where he is. As a judge - he will only be facilitating the system and not have the first hand information to help these young offenders as he does now. I disagree Jo. Having a guy like this on the bench would be good. Lawyers just advocate, judges DECIDE. Lawyers dont really have much power, they just qualify to fight in the arena. Judges call the winner. Juries decide disputed facts, but judges decide the LAW. If you look at the stats, prosecutors are often favored over defense lawyers when appointments to judgeships are made. I am assuming Dyer isnt a preosecutor. A lawyer who is compassionate, street and prison smart, and who has seen the seamier side of life first hand would be a breath of fresh air as a judge. Imprisoning non violent drug users is crazy. It doesn't accomplish much and costs a fortune. Thats how I see it. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #17924 June 29, 2010 Who is Jim Braden? Who was Eugene Hale Brading? What happened to Mr. Braden and where was he on Nov. 24 1971. Was there EVER a picture of this Mr. Braden or Brading? Where was he from and what was his background. Who was James or Joe Dolan? What was Mr. James or Joe Dolan's background. Find pictures of these guys? Find backgrounds of these guys? View a clip from the last released Kennedy film - one that had not been released until just about 4 yrs ago and then it quickly disappeared from site. Did anyone make a DVD or VHS tape of the Kennedy clip introduced only a very few yrs ago? If so don't tell anyone because it will go Poof! Was the man in that clip Braden, Brading or Dolan - is that why the clip went Poof! Did the clip show a man near the Dal-Tex Building? When that man was questioned he was released and the only ID he had was a credit card (duh)! Why am I doing this? Well, everyone thinks I am delusional so I just as well make it certifiable. I have walked away from this train of thought over and over only to get pulled right back into it. Only this time I have much more than I did before - such as a young man giving me a description of an individual which matched the description of a player in the Kennedy saga...it was a description with other details and there was no denying which Kennedy player it was. NO, It is Not any of the names mentioned above and do NOT ask because I won't tell! I know who the described man was - what I want to know is more about the other individuals mentioned above. If anyone has pictures or clips of the above - contact me at my Private email address...I keep those communications private. Surely there is a Kennedy buff in this forum who could get this information for me - I have what is on the internet - I am talking old newpaper clippings or files on the above characters. Supposedly the FBI is aware that John Collins spent some time in Chicago and it was strange the FBI never let me have the Jefferson file - just what is available on-line. John Collins spent a lot of time in solitare - during his "stay" in Jefferson, yet they commuted his sentence in just a few months? John Collins couldn't be in Jefferson and also at a WA function with his wife? Why did the FBI go looking for John Collins after he was released from Jefferson? What was so important they went all the way to Boulder, Co. to find him. How did he get away and why did he go to N.O. and he was Duane Weber again. Weber/Collins is in N.O. and he is on the run, but he is working for an insurance company with its H.O. in Texas? How the H--- did he get the insurance license under Weber - a known excon. He also supposedly had a license under Collins in Ks and Mo. Duane ends up in Mobil and Atlanta working for the same Company, but we will add a couple of others - one being an old JMWave Company with Mafia connections. He was working in Atlanta and Columbia in 1969, 1970 and 1971. He also worked for a private club in Atlanta called the Midnight Sun even when he was selling insurance. Worked two SS's at one time. Who was Duane's old friend Anderson - wasn't he the writer Duane knew from SLC. Oh! I don't want to forget the photographer - he was a good friend of Anderson's and mentor. I just as well go as bold as I can - the whole can of enchiladas - Right! Bet the FBI doesn't want that can opened...its pretty darn old. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #17925 June 29, 2010 Quote Lawyers dont really have much power, they just qualify to fight in the arena. Judges call the winner. Juries decide disputed facts, but judges decide the LAW. If you look at the stats, prosecutors are often favored over defense lawyers when appointments to judgeships are made. I am assuming Dyer isnt a prosecutor. A lawyer who is compassionate, street and prison smart, and who has seen the seamier side of life first hand would be a breath of fresh air as a judge. Imprisoning non violent drug users is crazy. It doesn't accomplish much and costs a fortune. That's how I see it. 377 Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
