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You guys are all nuts!
Just when I thought the facts were overcoming the myths (around late 2008 and early 2009) the myths had a “surge” and began to win again.
Internet research is the bane of the serious researcher (I’m not one, I’m just a scribe). On the internet you can "answer-shop" and find an article to support anything you want supported.
EXAMPLE: The Cooper parachute was made of steel!
PROOF: I researched the issue and found the attached article. See attached article (.pdf)
So, you see, I have proved my point based on something I found on the internet. CASE CLOSED.
Robert Blevins,
You should listen to georger, he is one of the few posters who “has his head on straight.” He gets irritated (and irritating) at times, but he THINKS a lot more than most.
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Just when I thought the facts were overcoming the myths (around late 2008 and early 2009) the myths had a “surge” and began to win again.
Internet research is the bane of the serious researcher (I’m not one, I’m just a scribe). On the internet you can "answer-shop" and find an article to support anything you want supported.
EXAMPLE: The Cooper parachute was made of steel!
PROOF: I researched the issue and found the attached article. See attached article (.pdf)
So, you see, I have proved my point based on something I found on the internet. CASE CLOSED.
Robert Blevins,
You should listen to georger, he is one of the few posters who “has his head on straight.” He gets irritated (and irritating) at times, but he THINKS a lot more than most.
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QuoteYou guys are all nuts!
Just when I thought the facts were overcoming the myths (around late 2008 and early 2009) the myths had a “surge” and began to win again.
Internet research is the bane of the serious researcher (I’m not one, I’m just a scribe). On the internet you can "answer-shop" and find an article to support anything you want supported.
EXAMPLE: The Cooper parachute was made of steel!
PROOF: I researched the issue and found the attached article. See attached article (.pdf)
So, you see, I have proved my point based on something I found on the internet. CASE CLOSED.
Robert Blevins,
You should listen to georger, he is one of the few posters who “has his head on straight.” He gets irritated (and irritating) at times, but he THINKS a lot more than most.
One of my internet favs is the guy (guys) who still
insist a life raft (barametric self inflating no less), was a standard part of Cossey's NB8, brought onboard for Cooper. I am told that some reporter actually asked Cossey about this and in shock
Cossey's reply was "unprintable".
There is a mountain of stories like this out there.
There is another guy who insists Cooper had to be a New Zealander. Why?
_ New Zealanders are dare devils...
_ People who disappear must be living on islands ..
_ The FBI never looked for Cooper on New Zealand.
Therefore . . .
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Notice how they left out the color of the steel parachute? How can any value adding analysis be completed without the entire story?
Details or entire relevance can be lost in the translation. I was working in Mexico and was experiencing a headache. Inside the drug store I asked for something because my head (calabaza) hurts (duele). The girl gave me a blank stare then went back to return with several other people. They did not speak English so I responded as all Americans with a slower and louder - Mi calabaza duele!. After a stunned silence they began to laugh.... at me. Time to pull out that last arrow in my linguistic quiver; so I said the same thing for a third time, but even slower and louder. They responded by laughing, longer and louder.
So I'm back at the hotel and I ask what I did that was so far off. Well, the word for 'head' is in fact cabeza, not calabaza, they said. What's the difference, tomato versus toe-mah-toe, right? No. One word means head, the other means 'pumpkin'. I was telling, then yelling to a small group that my pumpkin hurts, please help.
I guess what I learned, is that if you in fact have an injured pumpkin, Mexico is not a country to expect any aid or compassion for your gourd.
Any thoughts on what color the steel parachute was?
Details or entire relevance can be lost in the translation. I was working in Mexico and was experiencing a headache. Inside the drug store I asked for something because my head (calabaza) hurts (duele). The girl gave me a blank stare then went back to return with several other people. They did not speak English so I responded as all Americans with a slower and louder - Mi calabaza duele!. After a stunned silence they began to laugh.... at me. Time to pull out that last arrow in my linguistic quiver; so I said the same thing for a third time, but even slower and louder. They responded by laughing, longer and louder.
So I'm back at the hotel and I ask what I did that was so far off. Well, the word for 'head' is in fact cabeza, not calabaza, they said. What's the difference, tomato versus toe-mah-toe, right? No. One word means head, the other means 'pumpkin'. I was telling, then yelling to a small group that my pumpkin hurts, please help.
I guess what I learned, is that if you in fact have an injured pumpkin, Mexico is not a country to expect any aid or compassion for your gourd.
Any thoughts on what color the steel parachute was?
Best laugh I have had recently and it came from Georger - never knew he had a sense of humor. Just thought he was an OLD GROUCH...guess I was wrong.
I agree with Sluggo - the myths have suppressed what was left of the facts - in fact, it is getting to the point it is so confusing one feels like they are lost in this maze that never ends and when you think you are through it - it just starts over and over and over...never ending.
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Blevins Posted:
INSERT BY JO:
You do realize that the composite in this collage is an altered composite and not the orginal FBI file photo.
PS: Cook actually had nothing to do with the alterations and it was done by the journalist who did the article.
Attached is the actual FBI composite.
QuoteI hate to burst your fantasy bubble, but your efforts didn't work too well. When I spoke at the Auburn Avenue Theatre, the people in charge of the Literary Event asked for an encore later in the afternoon. This was requested by folks who missed the first presentation.
During the encore, I showed the audience two different photos of William Gossett, compared to the famous FBI sketch of Cooper. The first picture was the one commonly used by Galen Cook. I asked the audience if they thought Gossett resembled the sketch. They all agreed it did. You can see this first one HERE:
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q247/Adventure_Books_of_Seattle/goodoldays/gossettcomparisonpiclowres.jpg
INSERT BY JO:
You do realize that the composite in this collage is an altered composite and not the orginal FBI file photo.
QuoteThen...I showed them the picture of Gossett at his military retirement ceremony at Fort Lewis. This picture was taken less than 18 months after the hijacking. It shows an older, overweight Gossett with hairy arms who bears absolutely NO resemblance to the hijacker. I asked them again if he looked like the hijacker. They laughed. You can see that one HERE:
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q247/Adventure_Books_of_Seattle/goodoldays/gossettmay73lowres.jpg
PS: Cook actually had nothing to do with the alterations and it was done by the journalist who did the article.
Attached is the actual FBI composite.
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I misspoke above when talking about releases. If it was a NB-6 and not a B-4 it did not have canopy releases. An Air Force B-4 was more common for skydiving because it DID have canopy releases and the harness was more suitable for adding D rings to attach a reserve. The Navy relied on quick ejector hardware on the harness snaps to release a parachute after landing.
As to tieing the money on. I would have tied whater container it was in to the D rings for a harness used for sport jumping. Alternatively I would have used the rings for the reserve tie down that would have been about at the side of the hips. Around the waist would work if you did it before putting on the parachute.
Items are NOT tethered to flop at the end of line. When you see military jumpers landing like that they have released the load to the end of the tether after the canopy opened.
You can have your own NB-6, with a 28' canopy oddly enough, for your halloween costume.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/US-Navy-NB6-Parachute-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4838850b76QQitemZ310185888630QQptZMotorsQ5fAviationQ5fPartsQ5fGear
As to tieing the money on. I would have tied whater container it was in to the D rings for a harness used for sport jumping. Alternatively I would have used the rings for the reserve tie down that would have been about at the side of the hips. Around the waist would work if you did it before putting on the parachute.
Items are NOT tethered to flop at the end of line. When you see military jumpers landing like that they have released the load to the end of the tether after the canopy opened.
You can have your own NB-6, with a 28' canopy oddly enough, for your halloween costume.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/US-Navy-NB6-Parachute-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4838850b76QQitemZ310185888630QQptZMotorsQ5fAviationQ5fPartsQ5fGear
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QuoteI misspoke above when talking about releases. If it was a NB-6 and not a B-4 it did not have canopy releases. An Air Force B-4 was more common for skydiving because it DID have canopy releases and the harness was more suitable for adding D rings to attach a reserve. The Navy relied on quick ejector hardware on the harness snaps to release a parachute after landing.
As to tieing the money on. I would have tied whater container it was in to the D rings for a harness used for sport jumping. Alternatively I would have used the rings for the reserve tie down that would have been about at the side of the hips. Around the waist would work if you did it before putting on the parachute.
Items are NOT tethered to flop at the end of line. When you see military jumpers landing like that they have released the load to the end of the tether after the canopy opened.
You can have your own NB-6, with a 28' canopy oddly enough, for your halloween costume.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/US-Navy-NB6-Parachute-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4838850b76QQitemZ310185888630QQptZMotorsQ5fAviationQ5fPartsQ5fGear
good info. Cooper was putting his chute on when they were still on the ground at SEA - Hancock
was still on the plane and saw him, so unless he
took it off later all ties etc were done post-hoc.
I believe consensus is Cooper's chute had no
D-rings ?
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Correct. No D rings, no Capewells.
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Subj: To Washington
Date: 9/13/2010 1:39:56 PM
Date and time the email below was sent to JO WEBER who has claimed for 14 yrs her husband Duane L. Weber was Dan Cooper.
The email has been edited for clarity and correction.
"I drove to the area you marked on the map I sent you. It was very eye opening. I also talked to a man who owned 60 acres at the head of Lake LaCamus, He said there has never been a dairy on his side of the lake, but pointed out one on the other side."
"I found where DB came out of the woods and the power towers he used to get out of the woods. The interesting part is that there are a lot of fields adjacent to woods, which would make his trek very easy. While I was talking to someone near the site, a commercial plan flew over getting ready to land at Portland International Airport coming from SeaTac. "
"My next trip, I will be searching for one of two parachutes he may have had on him. Maybe he hid them and never went back to retrieve them. That is what I'm hoping. Regardless, looking at the map and seeing his path out of the woods, it became apparent he knew the area very well. It was a well thought out plan and carried out to the letter. Unbelievable!"
"I'll keep you informed of my next trip and what I find."
This gentleman's name and connection to this case will remain anonymous until a later date...but things are happening as we speak
P.S. I did edit the email taking out things you guys do not need to know and things not necessary to share at this time...I will state for your information he is NO spring chicken and much older than Duane was when he made the trek. I informed him that the area was more rugged back in 1971 and that 39 yrs makes a big difference in accessibility.
Date: 9/13/2010 1:39:56 PM
Date and time the email below was sent to JO WEBER who has claimed for 14 yrs her husband Duane L. Weber was Dan Cooper.
The email has been edited for clarity and correction.
"I drove to the area you marked on the map I sent you. It was very eye opening. I also talked to a man who owned 60 acres at the head of Lake LaCamus, He said there has never been a dairy on his side of the lake, but pointed out one on the other side."
"I found where DB came out of the woods and the power towers he used to get out of the woods. The interesting part is that there are a lot of fields adjacent to woods, which would make his trek very easy. While I was talking to someone near the site, a commercial plan flew over getting ready to land at Portland International Airport coming from SeaTac. "
"My next trip, I will be searching for one of two parachutes he may have had on him. Maybe he hid them and never went back to retrieve them. That is what I'm hoping. Regardless, looking at the map and seeing his path out of the woods, it became apparent he knew the area very well. It was a well thought out plan and carried out to the letter. Unbelievable!"
"I'll keep you informed of my next trip and what I find."
This gentleman's name and connection to this case will remain anonymous until a later date...but things are happening as we speak
P.S. I did edit the email taking out things you guys do not need to know and things not necessary to share at this time...I will state for your information he is NO spring chicken and much older than Duane was when he made the trek. I informed him that the area was more rugged back in 1971 and that 39 yrs makes a big difference in accessibility.
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Georger stated:
Since Cooper noted to Tina Mucklow that the money was not in a KnapSack (plan A) as he instructed in his communications. Has Tina ever stated if Cooper prepared his package prior to or before putting his Chute on?
Cutting lines from the chute he cut up would have been a little awkward with a chute on?
Jumper - jump in and tell me what you think about that. Seems like the package would have been prepared adequately before putting on the chute.
Somewhere along the line I was told he tried to put the money into the chute container he cut apart (plan B) - but, did he abandon that plan and go to (plan C ) - a container provided to him by someone on the plane or perhaps the money was delivered in something other than what the FBI has claimed for yr?
Someone who saw the money go on that plane - said it was NOT in a whitish bank bag...and his description matched the description I gave the FBI of a bag Duane kept, but never used...one that came into our home when the other items appeared after 1990. Duane told me at one time it had straps on it. Remember you heard this from Jo Weber and NO one else.
Watch the COPY CAT writers plagurize the rambling of a delusional Old Lady. Remember that you heard it here on DZ first from Jo Weber.
QuoteCooper was putting his chute on when they were still on the ground at SEA - Hancock
was still on the plane and saw him, so unless he
took it off later all ties etc were done post-hoc.
I believe consensus is Cooper's chute had no
D-rings ?
Since Cooper noted to Tina Mucklow that the money was not in a KnapSack (plan A) as he instructed in his communications. Has Tina ever stated if Cooper prepared his package prior to or before putting his Chute on?
Cutting lines from the chute he cut up would have been a little awkward with a chute on?
Jumper - jump in and tell me what you think about that. Seems like the package would have been prepared adequately before putting on the chute.
Somewhere along the line I was told he tried to put the money into the chute container he cut apart (plan B) - but, did he abandon that plan and go to (plan C ) - a container provided to him by someone on the plane or perhaps the money was delivered in something other than what the FBI has claimed for yr?
Someone who saw the money go on that plane - said it was NOT in a whitish bank bag...and his description matched the description I gave the FBI of a bag Duane kept, but never used...one that came into our home when the other items appeared after 1990. Duane told me at one time it had straps on it. Remember you heard this from Jo Weber and NO one else.
Watch the COPY CAT writers plagurize the rambling of a delusional Old Lady. Remember that you heard it here on DZ first from Jo Weber.
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
I hope you are
Duane Weber was Dan Cooper and If You Don't know Now You Will Never Know. The song Duane sang with a full band behind him on a stage in Denver, Co. on our Wedding night March 27th. Now Blevins if you even try to work the name of that song into your story then everyone will know what you are made of...two sided tape.
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Jo wrote:
Jo, you have no hard evidence to support this claim. None.
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QuoteDuane Weber was Dan Cooper
Jo, you have no hard evidence to support this claim. None.
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Jo wrote:
Wearing a rig doesn't restrict the use of your hands. Imagine wearing a big backpack. It's not much different. You could easily cut lines, tie things etc.
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QuoteCutting lines from the chute he cut up would have been a little awkward with a chute on?
Jumper - jump in and tell me what you think about that. Seems like the package would have been prepared adequately before putting on the chute.
Wearing a rig doesn't restrict the use of your hands. Imagine wearing a big backpack. It's not much different. You could easily cut lines, tie things etc.
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Sluggo doesn't have to respond to fake posts, PERIOD. He has no duty to repudiate or disclaim if he didn't write it.
"Going public" on a dubious post is stupid, it just republishes defamatory info and widens the audience. Just ignore it.
To me, it's obvious that someone is spoofing Sluggo, Jo and Snow on that SeaTac forum.
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"Going public" on a dubious post is stupid, it just republishes defamatory info and widens the audience. Just ignore it.
To me, it's obvious that someone is spoofing Sluggo, Jo and Snow on that SeaTac forum.
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Why on Earth would the 'Real Sluggo' be compelled to publish a retraction for some comment made by a 'Fake Sluggo'?
The comments have the same screen names as several individuals on this forum but share little else. Think there is some well versed imitation, but I can't see Quade feeling the need to make any comment. Not to say I didn't get a good laugh out of the comments.
The threshold the Christiansen family holds for being insulted is a little skewed here. The majority of the quote "All his investigation work performed from his little book studio just down the road from where" is not remotely about Christiansen and odd in inclusion. The quote "Christianson used to do young boyz..." could be a lie, but has nothing to do with the ChristiansEn family.
I want proper credit given to the person who threatened over thirty people with death while robbing a company of $200,000. Since being accused of the preceding is not considered insulting, one can see why the comment about boyz was taken so hard.
I think you responded to a single person rather than snowmman, CKRET, Cossey?!? (OMG) or Sluggo Monster. Does it even seem remotely plausible that Quade would admonish the comment section on another blog? I don't think he is into some omnipotent, monitoring of every D B Cooper chat.
A comment section that does not require registration is pretty easy to conduct such a ruse, or would this be considered a perfidy? Either way, it gave me a chuckle just like the people who do imitations of politicians and TV personalities. It is amusing how they can capture a few elements of their persona but the audience knows it is not them.
The comments have the same screen names as several individuals on this forum but share little else. Think there is some well versed imitation, but I can't see Quade feeling the need to make any comment. Not to say I didn't get a good laugh out of the comments.
The threshold the Christiansen family holds for being insulted is a little skewed here. The majority of the quote "All his investigation work performed from his little book studio just down the road from where" is not remotely about Christiansen and odd in inclusion. The quote "Christianson used to do young boyz..." could be a lie, but has nothing to do with the ChristiansEn family.
I want proper credit given to the person who threatened over thirty people with death while robbing a company of $200,000. Since being accused of the preceding is not considered insulting, one can see why the comment about boyz was taken so hard.
I think you responded to a single person rather than snowmman, CKRET, Cossey?!? (OMG) or Sluggo Monster. Does it even seem remotely plausible that Quade would admonish the comment section on another blog? I don't think he is into some omnipotent, monitoring of every D B Cooper chat.
A comment section that does not require registration is pretty easy to conduct such a ruse, or would this be considered a perfidy? Either way, it gave me a chuckle just like the people who do imitations of politicians and TV personalities. It is amusing how they can capture a few elements of their persona but the audience knows it is not them.
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QuoteSluggo doesn't have to respond to fake posts, PERIOD. He has no duty to repudiate or disclaim if he didn't write it.
"Going public" on a dubious post is stupid, it just republishes defamatory info and widens the audience. Just ignore it.
To me, it's obvious that someone is spoofing Sluggo, Jo and Snow on that SeaTac forum.
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I just had a look and the best post is the Quade blood pressure one
.Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.
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Farflung nails it every time. He has honed crass sarcasm to a fine edge. The cut is almost painless but the blood gushes freely. It's a pleasure having you here Farflung, hang in there.
There are so many named suspects to choose from, but my bet is not one of them was Cooper. Snow actually found the best overall candidate, Eagle Eye Pete, if you judge by qualifications. He was a founding member of the Boeing Skydive Club, worked in tech documents at Boeing during the 727 rollout, spent time in Nam during the war as a refugee advisor, jumped with the Saigon jump club, witnessed horrible atrocities and devleoped a huge grudge against the US govt, was a USFS smokejumper in the Pacific NW, was allegedly living in a mud hut in Nepal (great alibi, hard to disprove) when Norjack took place, ex Marine with combat experience, night freefall experience, expert skydiver with lots of round canopy jumps, AND, Snow found some photos from the right period where he looks a LOT like the FBI Cooper sketch. Even with all that, it looks like he was not Cooper. The FBI ruled him out on a genetic sample which Pete voluntarily provided during an FBI visit to his home.
I am keeping an open mind on everyone, even Duane and KC, but my bet is that none of our named suspects was actually Dan Cooper.
Cooper's canopy is almost certainly out there. I know I've said it a hundred times but we need reminding. Its condition may tell us whether he survived the jump, but probably wont tell us anything about who he was.
I've been a jumper for 42 years. I still jump and will be in the air this coming Saturday. I have jumped from a passenger jet (DC 9) and I've made many jumps under C9 surplus canopies. I DO think Cooper could have landed alive even if he was not an experienced jumper. All he needed to do was jump and pull. Sure the rig might have had a very hard pull, but Cossey wouldnt have packed an impossible pull.
If Cooper tumbled and panicked then all bets are off, but DBC seemed like a guy who could handle high stress. Even in a tumble, if you exited with your hand on the ripcord handle and pulled it, you'd probably end up under an open canopy.
The chances of a landing injury would have been high, C9s come down fast, but it wasnt a certainty that Cooper would be seriously injured during the landing. Snow has made a very convincing argument that Cooper could have survived the landing and walked out to civilization by pointing out that a Navy Corsair pilot did exactly that in December of 45 or thereabouts. Same general area, and a wintertime jump.
It is laughable to me (and I bet to other jumpers as well) to see people say that Cooper actually landed right where he planned. The weather, visibility, speed, delay in lowering the stairs, timing etc made his exit point a pure gamble, not an accurately executed event. If he had an accomplice, a rendevous would have been very tough to pull off without two way radio gear and a line of sight comm path. Copper could easily have exited 20 miles or more from his intended LZ. The chances of his landing where he planned is close to zero.
Somewhere, Cossey's canopy is awaiting discovery. If found, it will probably tell us if Cooper landed alive. I don't think the Amboy chute was Cooper's.
Cossey would sure as hell know if it was and HE would have a rightful claim to ownership of a valuable historic artifact. I'd pay a few bucks for a piece of Cooper's canopy. The hot 20s on eBay were over my budget.
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There are so many named suspects to choose from, but my bet is not one of them was Cooper. Snow actually found the best overall candidate, Eagle Eye Pete, if you judge by qualifications. He was a founding member of the Boeing Skydive Club, worked in tech documents at Boeing during the 727 rollout, spent time in Nam during the war as a refugee advisor, jumped with the Saigon jump club, witnessed horrible atrocities and devleoped a huge grudge against the US govt, was a USFS smokejumper in the Pacific NW, was allegedly living in a mud hut in Nepal (great alibi, hard to disprove) when Norjack took place, ex Marine with combat experience, night freefall experience, expert skydiver with lots of round canopy jumps, AND, Snow found some photos from the right period where he looks a LOT like the FBI Cooper sketch. Even with all that, it looks like he was not Cooper. The FBI ruled him out on a genetic sample which Pete voluntarily provided during an FBI visit to his home.
I am keeping an open mind on everyone, even Duane and KC, but my bet is that none of our named suspects was actually Dan Cooper.
Cooper's canopy is almost certainly out there. I know I've said it a hundred times but we need reminding. Its condition may tell us whether he survived the jump, but probably wont tell us anything about who he was.
I've been a jumper for 42 years. I still jump and will be in the air this coming Saturday. I have jumped from a passenger jet (DC 9) and I've made many jumps under C9 surplus canopies. I DO think Cooper could have landed alive even if he was not an experienced jumper. All he needed to do was jump and pull. Sure the rig might have had a very hard pull, but Cossey wouldnt have packed an impossible pull.
If Cooper tumbled and panicked then all bets are off, but DBC seemed like a guy who could handle high stress. Even in a tumble, if you exited with your hand on the ripcord handle and pulled it, you'd probably end up under an open canopy.
The chances of a landing injury would have been high, C9s come down fast, but it wasnt a certainty that Cooper would be seriously injured during the landing. Snow has made a very convincing argument that Cooper could have survived the landing and walked out to civilization by pointing out that a Navy Corsair pilot did exactly that in December of 45 or thereabouts. Same general area, and a wintertime jump.
It is laughable to me (and I bet to other jumpers as well) to see people say that Cooper actually landed right where he planned. The weather, visibility, speed, delay in lowering the stairs, timing etc made his exit point a pure gamble, not an accurately executed event. If he had an accomplice, a rendevous would have been very tough to pull off without two way radio gear and a line of sight comm path. Copper could easily have exited 20 miles or more from his intended LZ. The chances of his landing where he planned is close to zero.
Somewhere, Cossey's canopy is awaiting discovery. If found, it will probably tell us if Cooper landed alive. I don't think the Amboy chute was Cooper's.
Cossey would sure as hell know if it was and HE would have a rightful claim to ownership of a valuable historic artifact. I'd pay a few bucks for a piece of Cooper's canopy. The hot 20s on eBay were over my budget.
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Robert,
Get your head out of your ass!
I don’t know if you are just stirring up shit, or if you really believe any of those post (the ones using frequent DZ poster’s screen-names) are for real, but in any case, it isn’t worth my (limited) time to try to set you straight.
Maybe… just maybe… you posted those yourself.
Ooooohhhhh! I’m really frightened! If I don’t do something, that doesn’t need to be done, I’m gonna get “article-ized” by a big-time journalist.
Again… Get your head out of your ass!
The "Real" Sluggo_Monster
EDIT: It looks like Robert thought better about his threat and edited it out of his post. Hmmmmmm?
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Get your head out of your ass!
I don’t know if you are just stirring up shit, or if you really believe any of those post (the ones using frequent DZ poster’s screen-names) are for real, but in any case, it isn’t worth my (limited) time to try to set you straight.
Maybe… just maybe… you posted those yourself.
QuoteBy 'going public' I meant this: I'm strongly considering posting up an article on my MSNBC/Newsvine column regarding folks who do armchair detective work on the Cooper case, or run websites dedicated to it. And I WILL use that quote in the article unless Sluggo disclaims it. It's got his name on it. If he says nothing, then I have to assume it is his. There is a lot of anger in the AB office today over that remark, which by the way is not true and a major insult to both the Christiansen family and to the memory of Kenny, a US Army vet and other than he may have been DB Cooper, was a nice guy in real life. Everyone we've interviewed who knew him personally has said this.
Ooooohhhhh! I’m really frightened! If I don’t do something, that doesn’t need to be done, I’m gonna get “article-ized” by a big-time journalist.
Again… Get your head out of your ass!
The "Real" Sluggo_Monster
EDIT: It looks like Robert thought better about his threat and edited it out of his post. Hmmmmmm?
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Let there be peace. Everyone here gets a few free passes for dumb posts, and RB just used one.
I like having RB here even if he strayed a bit from the jumpers code which is:
Innocent until proven guilty by:
(a) at least 5 minutes of provably unaltered 8 mm movie film footage,
(b) a non coerced confession with a contemporaneous clean drug and alcohol urine sample and,
(c) eye witness sworn testimony from five FBI SACs. each of whom hold FAA Rigger-Examiner tickets and USPA D and PRO licenses and who have at least 200 round jumps or have jumped a Barish Sail Wing more than once.
Lets get back to business. Business isnt taking shots at each other, it's trying to figure out who Dan Cooper was and what happened to him
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I like having RB here even if he strayed a bit from the jumpers code which is:
Innocent until proven guilty by:
(a) at least 5 minutes of provably unaltered 8 mm movie film footage,
(b) a non coerced confession with a contemporaneous clean drug and alcohol urine sample and,
(c) eye witness sworn testimony from five FBI SACs. each of whom hold FAA Rigger-Examiner tickets and USPA D and PRO licenses and who have at least 200 round jumps or have jumped a Barish Sail Wing more than once.
Lets get back to business. Business isnt taking shots at each other, it's trying to figure out who Dan Cooper was and what happened to him
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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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RB wrote:
Would you apply the same standard to those people who get things posted about them on bathrrom walls?
If someone writes "for a good time call me, Suzie Smith at 111-111-1111, does that mean that Suzie needs to publish a disclaimer if it wasnt her who made the post?
The SeaTac posts were obvious spoofs.
Move along folks, nothing to see here...
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But until he says publicly that he was somehow spoofed or misrepresented, then no one knows if it was truly fake, do they?
Would you apply the same standard to those people who get things posted about them on bathrrom walls?
If someone writes "for a good time call me, Suzie Smith at 111-111-1111, does that mean that Suzie needs to publish a disclaimer if it wasnt her who made the post?
The SeaTac posts were obvious spoofs.
Move along folks, nothing to see here...
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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
Love you, you old geezer. You did Good. The JPG's were great and so was your reply to Blevins.
Just singing the Blues and wishing I was that young sexy thing.
Just singing the Blues and wishing I was that young sexy thing.
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Hang in there Robert. Ignore the vitriol. The Cooper hassle will be worth it if you solve the case or even if you don't. It's a HUGE crime mystery and who knows what your book might lead to. I don't think KC was DBC but I am keeping an open mind.
I was at a swap meet yesterday and a guy was selling a water damaged surplus quad color C9 canopy and NB 8 container. He was a surplus dealer and didn't know anything about where the rig came from. It looked 100% stock military, even had an intact mil brochure about uses of a parachute for post landing survival in one interior pocket but the packing card pocket was empty. The rig had been wet but not submerged. It wasn't Cossey's rig, but you just never know what will turn up given enough time and a continuing public interest in the Cooper case.
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