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QuoteNews Flash!
Blevins might need to shut the presses down - a lot is going on behind the scenes as we speak.
Things are esculating fast on this end...I really cannot say what part I have played in this, but it is happening...FAST. My trip to WA and to OR has put someone else on a fast track and it is not me. I have made phone calls and reached some individuals I interviewed and some I did not get the chance to visit with.
Things esculated so much in the last 3 days - I simply cannot keep up with it. The areas I visited in OR and WA - only knew I was there to retrace my husband's history in the area...mostly I never mentioned Cooper, because - I did NOT want the media or others in my face.
There was a handful of individuals I did explain the WHY to, because they were so helpful and generous about information they provided to an old woman simply trying to track the background of a husband who had deceased. Currently the best information came out of the Goldendale, Rufus, Biggs and The Dalles regarding the past of Weber.
My time was limited to 15 days, but when I had to come home - I didn't want to come home, but I was running out of money. I was buying cell minutes over the phone...and burning them.
It is what has happened since I got home - it has been OMG all over the place. I placed several calls back to those I had spoke with and others I could not when I was there. As we speak interviews are taking place on my behalf....I didn't know about this until 2 hours ago.
What has happened? One piece of information led to another and then to another and to another - Names and places and faces and photos...Duane had a very interesting past in the WA and OR area. When names started to POP up they were names he had mentioned and then the big BINGO was when one connection imploded and made connections with other things...this has been non-stop!
I threw a list of names out there several posts ago...and it might do some of you serious Cooper searchers to review that list of names. You know the plane that departed out of a airport near Amboy at about the right time was investigated...but, the FBI said it was BUSINESS people and I had often wonder who was doing business on Thanksgiving eve.
What if the names of those individuals where connected to Weber's past or that of another suspect? I say this in gest or speculation. At this point I will believe almost anything I am told...because I want to see this end before my days on this earth come to an end. I keep trying to put a lid on my emotions and what I say, but with all I am learning it is VERY difficult. Putting Duane in WA won't put him on that plane, but associations with other subjects may inadvertantly do this.
I really do not know what is being done right now I am posting because I can't hold my breath all afternoon. The findings just keep pouring in - and it is NOT me seeing these things. One individual I got in contact with after I got home put me in touch with another and it just kept going like stacked dominos.
Suddenly these people where creating more dominos of their own and the excitement has been building...I was just a woman trying to find the past of her spouse in a small area - showing pictures of him in his Navy uniform and the family pictures and the 2 photos of him as he may have looked in his 20's. Finding families he knew happened after I got home - then is when everything started to
esculate so fast.
Keep Quiet! I can remember the days when I kept quiet and accepted what I was told - the 60's homemaker syndrome.
NO! NOT ANYMORE! I turned over everything I knew and had to the FBI and Mr. Himmelsbach in 1996 - NO one did anything that was productive. Mr. H did what he could, but he had retired in 1980...and he was no longer in the FBI loop.
Do I have GUTS? Not really, but I have convictions and I had the determination to do all in my power before I die, to finish what I started - regardless of the outcome. When I got off that plane and set foot onto OR soil (pavement) - I doubted myself, but within the next 15 days (I was only supposed to be there for 7 days) my convictions became more deeply rooted. I was being guided by not only my memory, but by GOD.
Before I got on the plane to return home - I called the FBI in Portland. When I got home I started working the information I had acquired and if has NOT stopped. Soon it will stop, because it has to...I may be victorious only in discovering my husband had a past in WA and OR - but, I think soon everyone will know I found more than just that....WAS Duane Weber D.B. Cooper? I still don't have the answer to that one - but, what I have done is open up a new door for the FBI to explore without imploding it.it was my choice - but if anyone of you had a child who was convicted of a crime you knew he did not comment and sentenced to die for the crime - would you not fight for him to the very end and even after his termination?
it was my choice - but if anyone of you had a child who was convicted of a crime you knew he did not comment and sentenced to die for the crime - would you not fight for him to the very end and even after his termination?
Fine SERMON.
Hallelujah
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It is great to see you so energized Jo. As usual you provide excited adjectives and predictions of confidential blockbuster events about to happen, but reveal few, if any, relevant facts. It's just the way you are. I don't think it's always a conscious manipulative tease.
Your message below puzzles me.
"..if anyone of you had a child who was convicted of a crime you knew he did not comment(sic) and sentenced to die for the crime - would you not fight for him to the very end and even after his termination?"
Sure, we'd all fight for an inoocent condemned or executed person, especially a family member, but you are fighting to convict someone who went to his grave untarnished with even an accusation that he had committed a violent felony hijacking. Odd juxtaposition. Do you see the two tasks as morally equivalent?
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Your message below puzzles me.
"..if anyone of you had a child who was convicted of a crime you knew he did not comment(sic) and sentenced to die for the crime - would you not fight for him to the very end and even after his termination?"
Sure, we'd all fight for an inoocent condemned or executed person, especially a family member, but you are fighting to convict someone who went to his grave untarnished with even an accusation that he had committed a violent felony hijacking. Odd juxtaposition. Do you see the two tasks as morally equivalent?
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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
Farflung 0
OK, so the stairs could/should have been open for takeoff just as Cooper demanded (requested).
Now, Cooper could not control the speed, heading or altitude of the aircraft but he sure was in position to be Gatekeeper of the aft stairs. I know I would have been, if I knew how to operate them.
Why didn’t Mr. ‘Knows All About Aft Stairs On A 727’ simply configure the things precisely the way he wanted them?
Then he sends Tina to the cockpit because he has got everything under control. That is until he needs her to come back and ‘help’ get the stairs open. I hope Mr.’ Combat Veteran Airline Employee’ felt all butch, manly, man having to get a 23 year old to open those aft stairs for him.
I would have just done it myself.
PS. skyjack71 – You need to update your copyright year.
Now, Cooper could not control the speed, heading or altitude of the aircraft but he sure was in position to be Gatekeeper of the aft stairs. I know I would have been, if I knew how to operate them.
Why didn’t Mr. ‘Knows All About Aft Stairs On A 727’ simply configure the things precisely the way he wanted them?
Then he sends Tina to the cockpit because he has got everything under control. That is until he needs her to come back and ‘help’ get the stairs open. I hope Mr.’ Combat Veteran Airline Employee’ felt all butch, manly, man having to get a 23 year old to open those aft stairs for him.
I would have just done it myself.
PS. skyjack71 – You need to update your copyright year.
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QuotePS. skyjack71 – You need to update your copyright year.
Great, now we will become infringers every time we quote Jo.
Maybe she has finally become a "public figure" and we get more slack.
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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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QuoteI hope Mr.’ Combat Veteran Airline Employee’ felt all butch, manly, man having to get a 23 year old to open those aft stairs for him.
Come on Farflung. Even if KC was gay, surely you can excuse him for wanting to gaze at the lovely Tina just one more time before jumping into the blast?
If I knew how to handle the door I still would have asked Tina for some help. Bet you would have too.
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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
smokin99 0
Well one thing you can say about Duane is that he got around. Here he is in St. Petersburg, Fl in 1957. Haven't seen this pic before (above article). Interesting article too.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=h9ENAAAAIBAJ&sjid=OXYDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4453%2C5772131
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=h9ENAAAAIBAJ&sjid=OXYDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4453%2C5772131
but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill
Farflung 0
Look 377,
I already confessed my willingness to fake a massive heart attack and soil myself in order to get in Tina’s good graces. The point is, I would have operated the aft stairs as yet another display to Tina of what a fine example of burley, he-man, studly, superior, must be passed on DNA that I happen to represent.
Send Tina to the COCKPIT where there are THREE men? Riiiight, like I’m going to send her into the middle of some testosterone isolation booth with the expectation of seeing her again. This is chess not tiddley-winks, you have to think four or five moves ahead of the competition. If you’re not the lead dog, the view is always the same.
I would not have called her back, simply because she would have never left my ‘sphere of hunkyness’. Much like the moon Elara, Tina would have remained in an inexorable orbit of Farflung-iter, never truly realizing what draws her, yet she can’t leave.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EegRh8Z4H-o
I already confessed my willingness to fake a massive heart attack and soil myself in order to get in Tina’s good graces. The point is, I would have operated the aft stairs as yet another display to Tina of what a fine example of burley, he-man, studly, superior, must be passed on DNA that I happen to represent.
Send Tina to the COCKPIT where there are THREE men? Riiiight, like I’m going to send her into the middle of some testosterone isolation booth with the expectation of seeing her again. This is chess not tiddley-winks, you have to think four or five moves ahead of the competition. If you’re not the lead dog, the view is always the same.
I would not have called her back, simply because she would have never left my ‘sphere of hunkyness’. Much like the moon Elara, Tina would have remained in an inexorable orbit of Farflung-iter, never truly realizing what draws her, yet she can’t leave.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EegRh8Z4H-o
georger 244
QuoteWell one thing you can say about Duane is that he got around. Here he is in St. Petersburg, Fl in 1957. Haven't seen this pic before (above article). Interesting article too.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=h9ENAAAAIBAJ&sjid=OXYDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4453%2C5772131
Priceless. And anyone would believe this guy
about anything?
Many things are undecidable. This however is
decidable. What is left for Jo to have to ponder?
The number on Weber's cell, in Hell?
georger 244
Georger, Sluggo, what is the Science Team up to? Why did they go silent? Did they disband or stop work?
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Using the metadistribution of possible distributions for a given measure, we define a condition under which it is possible to make a decision based on the observation of random variables, which we call "statistical decidability". We provide a sufficient condition on the metadistribution for the decision to be "statistically decidable" and conjecture that decisions based on that metadistribution with non compact support, are always "statistically undecidable". There is the need for a strong undefeasable a priori without which decisions are
not statistically justified - an effect that is very significant for decisions affected by small probabilities. Once the metadistribution of the
of the non compacted issues has been made then decisions can be made by assessing the
deciable-undecidable ratio and assigning a value
to each. Metaformative decision making is as much
an art as a science and we will be proceding on that basis. Is this clear?
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Georger transmitted:
Absolutely OM. I just cranked up the DSP and now everything is intelligible.
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QuoteIs this clear?
Absolutely OM. I just cranked up the DSP and now everything is intelligible.
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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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Good find 99. Was that posted here before or did you find something that Snowmman missed, if there is such a thing?
From a ten dollar pickpocket who just served six years, couldn't do a year on parole without picking up a couple of Miami warrants and ends up getting caught red handed in St Pete...
to succesfullly pulling of one of the most innovative and daring crimes of the twentieth century...
If there were a Nobel Prize in crime I'd consider putting Duane ahead of Bernie Madoff.
Did he take a Tony Robbins course or something?
Nah, Tony was only 11 in 1971.
Maybe Dale Carnegie? Werner Erhard? L Ron?
Who was Duane's Guru, his mentor, the person responsible for one of the most amazing professional improvment stories in the history of crime?
It wasnt Mick Jagger. Duane ignored his sage advice:
"I stuck around St. Petersburg
When I saw it was a time for a change "
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From a ten dollar pickpocket who just served six years, couldn't do a year on parole without picking up a couple of Miami warrants and ends up getting caught red handed in St Pete...
to succesfullly pulling of one of the most innovative and daring crimes of the twentieth century...
If there were a Nobel Prize in crime I'd consider putting Duane ahead of Bernie Madoff.
Did he take a Tony Robbins course or something?
Nah, Tony was only 11 in 1971.
Maybe Dale Carnegie? Werner Erhard? L Ron?
Who was Duane's Guru, his mentor, the person responsible for one of the most amazing professional improvment stories in the history of crime?
It wasnt Mick Jagger. Duane ignored his sage advice:
"I stuck around St. Petersburg
When I saw it was a time for a change "
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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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Farflung wrote:
Which is why you were paid to sit up front in the left seat of a multimillion dollar airplane and I pay to ride in the back of a beat up Beech 18 with a bunch of farting skydivers.
When will I ever learn?
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QuoteSend Tina to the COCKPIT where there are THREE men? Riiiight, like I’m going to send her into the middle of some testosterone isolation booth with the expectation of seeing her again. This is chess not tiddley-winks, you have to think four or five moves ahead of the competition. If you’re not the lead dog, the view is always the same.
Which is why you were paid to sit up front in the left seat of a multimillion dollar airplane and I pay to ride in the back of a beat up Beech 18 with a bunch of farting skydivers.
When will I ever learn?
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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
Quote
Your message below puzzles me.
"..if anyone of you had a child who was convicted of a crime you knew he did not comment(sic) and sentenced to die for the crime - would you not fight for him to the very end and even after his termination?"
Sure, we'd all fight for an inoocent condemned or executed person, especially a family member, but you are fighting to convict someone who went to his grave untarnished with even an accusation that he had committed a violent felony hijacking. Odd juxtaposition. Do you see the two tasks as morally equivalent?
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Because I can't tell you what I am talking about - you might make that case, but it is what you do not know and something I do not understand.
I believe if you do the crime you do the time...and the example of what I was trying to convey may be a poor comparison, but I wanted you guys to put yourself in my position....but, I obviously didn't get that across to you or others.
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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Brrrr...
Bad boys, bad boys,
Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=Ej5SAAAAIBAJ&sjid=OXYDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5721,6066096&dq=duane+weber&hl=en
2nd Jul 30, 1957 Duane Weber article
same details as first. But includes some more details.
Says he was arrested in FL once before in 1949 also
says he was returned to prison in Ohio where he had escaped
Says he served time in Ohio for robbery and CA for grand larceny. Was on parole from both.
Duane never was arrested for those coat swaps Jo witnessed. He wasnt a complete bumbler.
Jo, were you aware of all the reported criminal history? Did Duane fully inform you?
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Bad boys, bad boys,
Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=Ej5SAAAAIBAJ&sjid=OXYDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5721,6066096&dq=duane+weber&hl=en
2nd Jul 30, 1957 Duane Weber article
same details as first. But includes some more details.
Says he was arrested in FL once before in 1949 also
says he was returned to prison in Ohio where he had escaped
Says he served time in Ohio for robbery and CA for grand larceny. Was on parole from both.
Duane never was arrested for those coat swaps Jo witnessed. He wasnt a complete bumbler.
Jo, were you aware of all the reported criminal history? Did Duane fully inform you?
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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
Man... I missed that one too!
I wonder when it was added to the archive.
smokin99,
Maybe next week I'll blow my horn REAL LOUD when I come by your town.
Jo,
What say you (about smokin99's newspapper article about Duane from 1957)?
You wanted to know about that era of his life. California, Ohio, Missouri, and Florida!
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I wonder when it was added to the archive.
smokin99,
Maybe next week I'll blow my horn REAL LOUD when I come by your town.
Jo,
What say you (about smokin99's newspapper article about Duane from 1957)?
You wanted to know about that era of his life. California, Ohio, Missouri, and Florida!
Web Page
Blog
NORJAK Forum
QuoteWell one thing you can say about Duane is that he got around. Here he is in St. Petersburg, Fl in 1957. Haven't seen this pic before (above article). Interesting article too.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=h9ENAAAAIBAJ&sjid=OXYDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4453%2C5772131
I have never seen this article before and is it real or one of those things someone has printed up for fun?
July 29, 1957 - if he really was arrested at Treasure Island - why wasn't he sent to prison in Florida? How did he end up in Canon City in 1960.
1960 he is sent to Canon City and I have the picture of that incarceration - both before and after. The after didn't look much like the guy who was released.
I also have the records from Canon. No place does it mention an arrest in FL nor an incarceration in FL.
He was released from Folsom on March 18, 1957 and on paroled until May 5 1959 in the state of CA
Then he is convicted in Colorado on Sept 9, 1960 and paroled on June 16 1962 - he had passed to them from El Paso County.
So what happened? He is released on parole on March 18, 1957 from Folsum and then in July of the same yr he is in FL.
He would have been in violation of parole in CA. which did not expire until May of 1959.
The records I have do not show any FL arrests or convictions.... other than a DUI when he was arrested in Jacksonville, Fl around 1977 - he was also in possession of pistol on that arrest.
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
Arrested previously (in 1949)?
Escaped prison?
A number of varied identification papers?
$113.35 in cash? That's almost enough to buy the GE Automatic Defrost Refrigerator on page for $189.70.
Whooooaaa Duane/John has been a verwy, verwy, baad boy.
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Escaped prison?
A number of varied identification papers?
$113.35 in cash? That's almost enough to buy the GE Automatic Defrost Refrigerator on page for $189.70.
Whooooaaa Duane/John has been a verwy, verwy, baad boy.
Web Page
Blog
NORJAK Forum
News Flash!
it was my choice - but if anyone of you had a child who was convicted of a crime you knew he did not comment and sentenced to die for the crime - would you not fight for him to the very end and even after his termination?
Blevins might need to shut the presses down - a lot is going on behind the scenes as we speak.
Things are esculating fast on this end...I really cannot say what part I have played in this, but it is happening...FAST. My trip to WA and to OR has put someone else on a fast track and it is not me. I have made phone calls and reached some individuals I interviewed and some I did not get the chance to visit with.
Things esculated so much in the last 3 days - I simply cannot keep up with it. The areas I visited in OR and WA - only knew I was there to retrace my husband's history in the area...mostly I never mentioned Cooper, because - I did NOT want the media or others in my face.
There was a handful of individuals I did explain the WHY to, because they were so helpful and generous about information they provided to an old woman simply trying to track the background of a husband who had deceased. Currently the best information came out of the Goldendale, Rufus, Biggs and The Dalles regarding the past of Weber.
My time was limited to 15 days, but when I had to come home - I didn't want to come home, but I was running out of money. I was buying cell minutes over the phone...and burning them.
It is what has happened since I got home - it has been OMG all over the place. I placed several calls back to those I had spoke with and others I could not when I was there. As we speak interviews are taking place on my behalf....I didn't know about this until 2 hours ago.
What has happened? One piece of information led to another and then to another and to another - Names and places and faces and photos...Duane had a very interesting past in the WA and OR area. When names started to POP up they were names he had mentioned and then the big BINGO was when one connection imploded and made connections with other things...this has been non-stop!
I threw a list of names out there several posts ago...and it might do some of you serious Cooper searchers to review that list of names. You know the plane that departed out of a airport near Amboy at about the right time was investigated...but, the FBI said it was BUSINESS people and I had often wonder who was doing business on Thanksgiving eve.
What if the names of those individuals where connected to Weber's past or that of another suspect? I say this in gest or speculation. At this point I will believe almost anything I am told...because I want to see this end before my days on this earth come to an end. I keep trying to put a lid on my emotions and what I say, but with all I am learning it is VERY difficult. Putting Duane in WA won't put him on that plane, but associations with other subjects may inadvertantly do this.
I really do not know what is being done right now I am posting because I can't hold my breath all afternoon. The findings just keep pouring in - and it is NOT me seeing these things. One individual I got in contact with after I got home put me in touch with another and it just kept going like stacked dominos.
Suddenly these people where creating more dominos of their own and the excitement has been building...I was just a woman trying to find the past of her spouse in a small area - showing pictures of him in his Navy uniform and the family pictures and the 2 photos of him as he may have looked in his 20's. Finding families he knew happened after I got home - then is when everything started to
esculate so fast.
Keep Quiet! I can remember the days when I kept quiet and accepted what I was told - the 60's homemaker syndrome.
NO! NOT ANYMORE! I turned over everything I knew and had to the FBI and Mr. Himmelsbach in 1996 - NO one did anything that was productive. Mr. H did what he could, but he had retired in 1980...and he was no longer in the FBI loop.
Do I have GUTS? Not really, but I have convictions and I had the determination to do all in my power before I die, to finish what I started - regardless of the outcome. When I got off that plane and set foot onto OR soil (pavement) - I doubted myself, but within the next 15 days (I was only supposed to be there for 7 days) my convictions became more deeply rooted. I was being guided by not only my memory, but by GOD.
Before I got on the plane to return home - I called the FBI in Portland. When I got home I started working the information I had acquired and if has NOT stopped. Soon it will stop, because it has to...I may be victorious only in discovering my husband had a past in WA and OR - but, I think soon everyone will know I found more than just that....WAS Duane Weber D.B. Cooper? I still don't have the answer to that one - but, what I have done is open up a new door for the FBI to explore without imploding it.
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