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AAAGGGHHH!!! I just resized them because they would not upload. Does anyone want to help me out? If I send an e-mail with the photos attached will you upload? WHERE ARE YOU FARFLUNG?! [:/]



They probably didnt upoload because each
was over 300 kb. Its frustrating but you will get
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I have gmail....DZ is picky about size. lol...that gave me a chuckle. ok back to reality.....I do not have a photo program at work.....if I keep screwing around at work I will not have work either.
Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs

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Just don't have the time...It is 1740 AND I AM STILL HERE. I have to get to the gym and keep this figure. Then I have a meeting tomorrow at the Sheriff's Department. Then reading for 4 classes this weekend, Birthday with my Daughter on Monday night....I need a vacation.
Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs

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I just wish someone would find a hot twenty. We are going in circles with our unsupported speculation.

Galen Cook is way overdue on his book. Sheridan Peterson lurks but remains silent. Ckret watches it all but is muted by his employer.

All quiet on the western front.


377



It appears to me that Vicki's posting style and quiet "laid back" attitude hasn't really prompted much "sleuthing" from those who like to dig.

If she is up for it then I suggest some of guys who really like digging (377 (aka Snowman's proxy), Georger etc turn the spotlight on that lead. My bets are that it is a dead-end street but from past experience when people start digging some really interesting stuff is churned up from old newspaper articles.


For ease of access here is Farflungs list from some time ago.
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Looks like Vicki’s list is actually very compelling AND longer than most. I think it is only fair to say that Melvin Wilson is a ‘long list’ suspect now.

1. Age mid forties (time of the crime)
2. Out on bail (Sept 1971) on Federal charges
3. Counterfeiter of over $200,000 (affinity)
4. Vanished and has not been seen since 1971 (this is a new one)
5. Last resided near the HQ town of Northwest Orient
6. Known smoker and drinker (unknown cigarette brand and alcohol type)
7. Height and weight are correct
8. Did not need a toupee
9. Olive complexion (did not need a winter tan)
10. Familiar with Federal law enforcement and definitely had a grudge
11. Unknown whereabouts as the US Marshals Office was after him
12. Knew how to change identity and blend into new surroundings
13. Known to abandon money or at least counterfeit money into navigable waterways and have it discovered
14. On the run and likely had no vehicle
15. On the run and did not have a permanent residence
16. Photo in video shows him wearing sunglasses similar to the pair described on Cooper
17. Was able to successfully pass counterfeit money making passing ransom money child’s play
18. Was known to be in possession of large sums of cash, albeit counterfeit
19. Was in the military
20. Described as polite (by his wife!)
21. Comfortable working complex larcenies alone

That is an impressive list to be sure. The running from the Feds in September, 71 and the familiarity with hundreds of thousands of dollars is an amazing coincidence.

I have no idea if Melvin Wilson was Cooper, but found the exercise of scribing the similarities enlightening. At least there may be some more perspective about others, but I doubt it.

Yes. An interesting list. That was noted
when she first presented. Thanks.

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I'm going to look at those Google docs VickiW posted, just to see what she has there.



I will throw pics up again too.....sometime, as time permits.

Thank you to Smokin99 for sending me these articles back on 11.17.2010.

I have more articles, counterfeiting and Cooper, from the St. Paul and Minneapolis papers that I went to the History museum and pulled off Microfiche. Once I have time I will scan and upload...I just do not have a lot of time with my current schedule.



So glad you are being pro-active as I told you the FBI is NOT going to do it. You have to go find it yourself and I am very proud of all that you have put together recently.
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Just don't have the time...It is 1740 AND I AM STILL HERE. I have to get to the gym and keep this figure. Then I have a meeting tomorrow at the Sheriff's Department. Then reading for 4 classes this weekend, Birthday with my Daughter on Monday night....I need a vacation.

I did manage to get the pictures into a zip file after cropping them at their original size. I can send them to anyone that would like to reduce them to a compatible size. I can e-mail from my phone.

Just send me a e-mail if anyone would like to take on this task. evickiw@gmail.com

if not....I will get to it......................eventually.



Vicki I have ALL of the photos you previously
posted here. I can repost them for you in an
appropriate size if you like .... but I need your
permission first. Just say the word and I will do
this later tonight. Like you Im headed out the
door for some R&R but will check back in around
10:00pm Central.

Or, somebody else can do it ... doesnt have to
be me.

Thanks.
G.

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No! No! I wasn't talking about you... I was talking about me!

Believe me... If I had something never published or new... I'd post it in a millisecond.



Okay Sluggo::)

I have some information about the documents presented on the Blevins/Christiansen show.

The document that shows Christiansen had 180 K plus in an account after the skyjacking.

Blevins - I challenge you to make the DOCUMENT PUBLIC.:)You won't because YOU know exactly where that money came from and it was from NO SKYJACKING.

I have a very strong feeling you will NOT do this, because YOU KNOW it will BUST your case against Christiansen.

Sluggo and Georger and others:

;)Urge Blevins to disclose exactly what this document was - before someone else does. Being truthful may carry more points than continueing a HOAX. He got pulled into this thing and then found himself WAY over his head. This document is one of the pivitol moments that caused Blevins to state - he could not prove Christiansen was Cooper. The source of this 180 K plus is the reason and it was NOT from a skyjacking...

If I stated that Duane had 180 K in a bank account - I would have to PROVE it and show the source.

:oIf the source was an Estate he had inherited from his parents and I represented it as something else to get a movie contract and to increase book sales - I would be found quilty of Fraud by participants of this thread if not in a court of law.
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Vicki I have ALL of the photos you previously posted here. I can repost them for you in an
appropriate size if you like .... but I need your permission first. Just say the word and I will do
this later tonight. Like you Im headed out the door for some R&R but will check back in around
10:00pm Central.

Or, somebody else can do it ... doesnt have to
be me.

Thanks.
G.



Georger - while you are at that WHY don't you take the document the show presented (about the 180K plus) on the program and enlarge IT. You might be or might not be surprised what it says. Then track back from the date of that document and see what else you find in court documents.

Bud said to tell you Hello and that you are wrong about the DNA remark made about the Tie Tac. The supposed DNA found on the tie tac per you only refers to female heritage or you used incorrect terminology. Would be helpful to see the actual Lab report made to the FBI about this genetic material.
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Georger - while you are at that WHY don't you take the document the show presented (about the 180K plus) on the program and enlarge IT. You might be or might not be surprised what it says. Then track back from the date of that document and see what else you find in court documents.

Bud said to tell you Hello and that you are wrong about the DNA remark made about the Tie Tac. The supposed DNA found on the tie tac per you only refers to female heritage or you used incorrect terminology. Would be helpful to see the actual Lab report made to the FBI about this genetic material.



You can't use the "dumb blonde" moniker again Jo, you've lost the right. ;)

377
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It matters Not what you published - this is about how this was portrayed on the program that was made. The book may clarifiy it - but on TV it is made to sound like that was in the account after the skyjacking and that only JACKs up sales. Most people will not buy the book and what survives is the segment that will be shown over and over.

The general public never knows because young people do not read books. Then Myths again becomes public and stated deliberate mistruths become facts....to the future generations who will examine this case. Why doesn't someone like Sluggo write a book and get a made for TV segment called:

Myths versus Truths?
The Hijacking that happens Over and Over depending on the subject - and the truth becomes buried in the myths created by wannabes and "others" who would like for this old unsolved crime just to go away...leaving the past to be forever forgotten.
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Usually when a check like that is written unless the other properties where conveyed separately - it includes the sales results of the properties...and is the balance after attorney fees and sales fees and property disposed of. Depends on how the estate was set up and the state.
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Georger - while you are at that WHY don't you take the document the show presented (about the 180K plus) on the program and enlarge IT. You might be or might not be surprised what it says. Then track back from the date of that document and see what else you find in court documents.



well... I 'spose I could do that but not sure
what it would prove? only Robt has the background.
I have so much else to do its a low priority
fr me.... right now.

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We pointed out in the book that it might not be impossible to save such a sum while filing returns of 20k or less each year, but when you compare that to KC's known spending habits, it was suspicious. The coin and stamp collection was valued at around $400,000 in 1994 dollars, although its high value was due in part to a natural gain in value over the years. There was also a car, a house, and two other pieces of land in KC's estate. Those were paid off by KC years before he died.

Closing-of-account statement attached (savings)

Glad to see this evolved into a more
manageable form from its original (not sure of
the word to use). ;) First mutation? ;) Ends
up as a butterfly .... overcoming obstacles?
Can pass the Joan Rivers Test ? ..........

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What would make a man sit like a lump rather than answer what he did on some long weekend holiday in an Airstream trailer with a ‘special friend’ in the woods?

Enjoy (or be vexed by) the following ditty with a tribal beat of deep, thrusting bass and some whimsical lyrics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyl5DlrsU90

Well, how were you affected by that? Moved to having a bit of a dance perhaps?

The slope is equally insidious and slippery on the journey to owning and hiding an Airstream from the spouse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJv5qLsLYoo&feature=related

Still too subtle? Don’t fret because the opus magnum anthem to Airstream ownership is next.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO43p2Wqc08

Before you start searching Craigslist for trailers, take some time to let the enthusiasm diminish and start thinking rationally again. Why would a couple of men conspire to hijack an airliner and neglect to give the wife a cover story??? Gee guys, all the radios and toupees and trailers were arranged; you just forgot some tale to feed the old lady about your absence during one of the biggest man hunts in history. Well done, well done indeed.

Try cleansing the audio and intellectual palate and sing along to this classic…..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R36CixkIaIc

Didn’t you feel like DB Cooper?

Una Paloma Blancaaaaaaahhhhhh (cough.. cough) aaahhhh, over the Cascades I fly.

I feel like DB Cooperrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, only to my wife I’ll lie.

No one can take…… my Airstream away.

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No deal finalized yet. I think I might hold out on this one and wait to see if there is an actual offer to make the movie. But mostly I would be checking for accuracy on the known facts, not so much writing the thing.



Obvious question: Since you are lacking most of
the "facts" how would you propose to do that?

It's all in the "deal" isn't it.

The question I have is: "Will the world sit on its
thumbs while you dally with movie contracts,
the world waiting for real Cooper news - or must
it all come from you now?

Or, will you be revising as the world turns ...
relying on us to feed you the time of day?

Here. Start with this.

.......................................................
Lateral and Vertical Total Dissolved Gas Concentrations in the Columbia River

by Steve Juul, (Research Associate, State of Washington Water Research Center, Washington State University, Pullman, WA 99164-3002) and Michael E. Barber, (Associate Professor, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering, Washington State University, Pullman, WA 99164-2910)
Section: 18, Chapter: 1, (doi 10.1061/40517(2000)69)

Supplements:

(i) Shoreline Gas Measurements 1970-78
Shillapoo & North .....

(ii) Fazio Property Measurements 1978-79

(iii) Erosional Factors Noted by Palmer in
Conjunction with Gas Concentrations in certain
areas, followup.
1979

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What would make a man sit like a lump rather than answer what he did on some long weekend holiday in an Airstream trailer with a ‘special friend’ in the woods?



Thought the same thing when I watched it...

Here's a guy in a creepy motel, who I wouldn't trust for directions to Dunkin' Donuts, 'claiming' they were going camping in the 'caddy of campers' for no particular reason, weather & time of year not withstanding...it just didn't make sense...and then there weren't a million follow-ups questions?

Glad Robert somewhat cleared up the fog of production, I was thinking the interviewers were hapless dolts for a while there.










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I agree with fact from fiction. In this case your a good fiction writer and you know it. I'm just saying there is a lot of holes in your story that you think you have filed in. But in reality have false botom's.Point being is how are you going to react if Vicki's father turns out to be Cooper or at the very least the most probable suspect in years (in which I believe the public will see it that way if I have anything to do with it.)Insn't it going to turn out derogatory to you and what will be your defense? Jerry

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Look, Jerry...I haven't met you, but I think I would like you if I did. I got a little defensive there because first I have Skyjack71 using the 'hoax' tag on me. I take that personally because everyone here at AB of Seattle basically gave up any kind of a life for the last 20 months working on the Cooper case.



Blevins you got the Hoax questions in the same way I have tolerated them for 15 yrs. They are the same questions I have been asked. I gave up more than 2 yrs and it was Jerry that used his "false expertise" to destroy my story and he will do that to anyone regardless of who the suspect is. Unless Jerry is in control he makes life miserable for anyone with a viable suspect. He treated me like a prisoner of WAR in a phone conversation after he came to this thread and I ended up in the ER that night.

I don't believe I have tried to HOAX you - just ask the questions anyone else would ask who also has a suspect and has researched this subject of 15 yrs.

As for Jerry's "FALSE EXPERTISE" why did he deny certain places did NOT exist that I have told about for yrs - when they do in fact exist.

For example - my mountain or hill that looked like a grave yard with large boulders at the top. There were large dead trees and a wire fence with a wooden gate. The place Duane pointed out where all of the power lines crisscrossed and that you could walk for miles before all of the undergrowth and a stream that went from a creek to Lake LaCames...

Jerry told me from 1996 to 2001 it did NOT exist and made me look like a fool to the TV crew in 2001. He also claimed in this thread the place did NOT exist.On my 2010 trip I found this place and it did and does exist. Does it prove Duane was Cooper - NO it does NOT, but what it does prove is that Jerry will knowingly attempt to discredit anyone who has a viable suspect...using whatever means he can.

Now, Jerry will call that an attack, but it is all in this thread in Black and White. I had a witness in WA in 2010 when I found the place Jerry claimed DID not exist. Jerry turned a DEAF ear to what I found - he didn't want to hear the names of people Duane knew. One had property at the foot of that hill - and I had told about Duane knowing someone who had property there...for 15 yrs. NOT one time did he check the property records a genuine researcher would do....instead he pretended to have done this.

I have questions for the thread:

1. WHY would Jerry claim knowledge of these things?
2. Is it a control issue?
3. He claimed to have known McCoy - did her really know Mcoy?
4.He has told others who enquire about a suspect that he has ACCESS to all of the FBI files when in fact he DOES NOT...is he FBI or CIA?
5. What part of Jerry's access and expertise is real?

Everyone is kind to Jerry because he is a Veteran, but that is NO longer acceptable when he misrepresents what he has the authority to do and ACCESS to the FBI files.

There are posters - past and present who will tell you Jerry has contacted them claiming he can help them investigate their subject. Jerry has NO more access than anyone else in this forum to the FBI files and is NOT authorized to act on behalf of the FBI.
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- The counterfeit money thrown over the bridge totaled $200,000.00.



I have been thinking about adding her dad to my “I Am D B Cooper” page. In doing the research, I discovered the $200,000 is incorrect. The number published in newspaper articles at the time the money was found (Spring of 1971) was $500,000 to $1M.

I guess there are as many myths surrounding the Melvin Luther Wilson case as there are around the DB Cooper case.

Does anyone have any published information that supports the $200,000 claim?

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I took the amount off the Unsolved Mystery episode. I do not know the exact words, but they referenced the money in the barrel was close to 1/4 million.

I did not know it was more than 200 ish, as I have only recently seen the newspapers articles since I originally posted in this forum. [:/] .

Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs

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