Sluggo_Monster 0 #21526 February 9, 2011 QuoteRobertMBlevins said: I hope you see this, or someone forwards it to you. Really, I do. I am not afraid to face you and shred your theory quicker than I shred cheese for a frickin' Red Baron pizza. A legend in his own mind. Robert, You haven’t made very many converts (yet). It’s a little early to be taking the high-ground. Your “25 points” amount to… 25-points. Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 244 #21527 February 9, 2011 QuoteQuoteRobertMBlevins said: I hope you see this, or someone forwards it to you. Really, I do. I am not afraid to face you and shred your theory quicker than I shred cheese for a frickin' Red Baron pizza. A legend in his own mind. Robert, You haven’t made very many converts (yet). It’s a little early to be taking the high-ground. Your “25 points” amount to… 25-points. No kidding! Dont you just love Natural Selection! When all appeared lost! Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz ? My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends. Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends, So Lord, Oh lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz ? (not written by Robert 'Hat on Head' Blevins) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobKnoss 0 #21528 February 9, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote This is exactly WHY I do NOT believe anything YOU tell! Copyright©2009 by Jo Weber Because you have absolutely no sense of humor at all! At least my failure to believe what you say is that I know better from a factual matter, I actually KNOW what happened and don't have to try to reconstruct what happened by sifting through fabrications, misdirection, fables and little bits of truth. They even get me off base on stuff by 'carrot on a stick' tactics. Takes a while to see the string sometimes. You refuse to see it, I look for it. I am really impressed by your ability to pick and choose, selectively dispose of and exonerate various pieces of information. Through some magic spell, you can associate one cloud of extraneous bovine flatulation with a dried clump of moose scat and create a living breathing Sasquash with a Mohawk haircut and designer jeans. And that's real because you took a trip to Washington State and someone showed you a footprint and a petrified turd. It is just not evidence. Evidence is a statement from Bill that can be varified by at least one or more valid sources. Some of your information is almost real evidence from Duane. Most of it is as 'Jerry' says. In any case, it appears that the concensus is that we throw you under the bus, because you are so far off so often. Not a good witness. Nuttall is credible and percentage-wise, just as close as you to the truth and still protects the FBI from another Waco/Ruby Ridge type story. They will endorse Nuttall and sink your ship. I'll return in ten years from out of the blue with the 50th Anniversary tell-all picture book. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #21529 February 9, 2011 Bob wrote Quote I'll return in ten years from out of the blue with the 50th Anniversary tell-all picture book. If it goes out a full decade is it still a tease? Or is it a bluff? Do we have two teasers or is Jo alone? Jo, was the TV program the focus of your most recent tease? Hope Galen mans up and faces his purported executioner. Hope Jo appears too. This is shaping up to be the DBC Super Bowl. I am putting Farflung in charge of halftime entertainment. That guarantees a hot songstress and a wardrobe malfunction. Snowmman should be solicited to participate in the questioning. If he does he'll let Robert shred Galen, then he'll shred Robert. Super Bowl or Destruction Derby? You decide. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BobKnoss 0 #21530 February 9, 2011 Quote Super Bowl or Destruction Derby? You decide. 377 The last Superbowl DBC with Ralph, Bill, Nick, and who-all was a total bust concluding that McCoy and Cooper were one in the same. Not very interesting at all, even to DBC addicts. You want to put people with less credibility on a show with admitted hoaxers to do what? Tell boring 40 year old Sasquash-type stories and call each other liers, crazy, fabricators, hoaxers, and everything else we have used, collectively? You have the wrong show. You want to do a SPECIAL. The Jerry Springer Show for the Senile and Infirmed. Crutches, wheelchairs, slow drips, straight-jackets, Dr. Lector face-masks, I can see the panel now. Don't get a late night time slot, we'll all miss it. That would put the infamous Jessie James true grave site fight to shame. What? You never heard of that one? Maybe nobody really gives a shift? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BobKnoss 0 #21531 February 9, 2011 QuoteQuote***...In fact, no one on this thread addressed a single one of them. Just saying they are baloney isn't enough. REPEAT: Let's discuss Lyle's letter from Kenny asking to be a strawman Cooper. Rataczak told me about it before you started your book. If you are so honest and diligent, you should be able to clear up this matter in short order. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjack71 0 #21532 February 9, 2011 It may not be feasible due to my present condition to fly or be in WA. but, what I have offered is for them to do a brief showing with the "new" stuff that I have accumulated. I will not be the focus - I do NOT want to be. This will be a display of pictures with specific details and explanations. Not some of the OLD stuff everyone has seen before. This group of photos will take to task the most ardent Cooper searcher with information that can be VERIFIED. I have asked NOT to be shown or made visible - I like the fact that my face has faded from the story. They can use an early picture of Duane and I, but this IS NOT about me - IT is about JUSTICE & TRUTH (whatever that might turn out to be). I will give a vocal - but choose they afterward use another Vocal over my voice - using my wording. The only reason I agree is that this will be the LAST time I will have a chance to show what I have found. I am not an organzied person and because what I have presented in the past was not in order and with full explanations. I will NOT be re-hashing past statements nor answering questions. Simply show WHAT I can. The only part I will require if they use some of the young pictures and history of DUANE - to see if there is ANYONE out there in the areas Duane 'PLayed' who might remember this man. I may reveal for the first time a old tape of Duane's voice. I did not see the value of it because his voice was so raspy because of a procedure he had just had done, but since the raspy voice came up again in one of the witness description I thought I would dig it out and see what could be extracted that might take the anger out of the message he left on the phone in 1990. There is a lot on that tape that would have to be censored, so I do NOT know if it is useable. I do NOT want to take anyone else's thunder. I frankly do NOT think Blevins is now into this for his own profit. He has gotten as caught up in the search as has everyone else. Even if his book flopped after the show - the show in itself might produce something that would still say - You Did IT! What he and the show are doing is actually a fair thing and we all know that Blevins only wrote the book and this thread has convinced him that Christiansen might not be Cooper. He is just a writer and he did his job. I believe that if the show resulted in a SOLID lead into the past of any "suspect" it will be a MAJOR break through. I believe this is MY LAST CHANCE to be heard, but hopefully in a way I have NEVER been heard before. I swore I would never go public again - and I am trying to do it in a way that will not impact my life and to leave me with the peace of mind - I did try and I did do what I could...to prove the t hings Duane told me. I would be appreciative of any suggestiong this forum might have of one lines that I might need to include in order to make this a fast quick and thorough view of Weber. I do not think the early "stuff" needs to be repeated in the terms it has been. The DNA needs to NOT be mentioned until the FBI can PROVE the tie belonged and was worn by Cooper. They have not in the past been able to do this and this story has been resounding ever since that plane hit the ground in Reno. That tie did NOT show up for almost 5 hours after the plane landed and could have been placed there by anyone on any leg of that trip or by one of the workers who cleaned the plane or aided in the search. So I need a BRIEF list of what needs to be mentioned by me as far as the past enquires made on WEBER...then the finally is up to me for WEBER. This is the venue I suggested to Blevins because it would not steal his thunder, but get my last message out to the public. After that is done - I will have done all I can do. The best I may hope for is that someone might remember him and maybe I can find out what my husband's past was in WA, OR and ID. This will be a vet or a old man or woman sitting in a nursing home watching TV. Maybe someone who bought one of the establishments Duane used to frequent - will have some OLD pictures - archived and buried. Whatever the results are - all I want is a fair and accurate accounting - of WEBER and without any slurs toward me or him. An OBJECTIVE look at a suspect I feel got pushed aside because of things that should not have been and poor investigative ablitities. Then when they did try to do something - it was 6 yrs too late. There were things going on in WA in 1999 that caused Weber to be ignored and for a period of time NO suspects where brought forward to be investigated...then about 4 yrs ago - all hell let loose. NO Sluggo this is NOT the "SAME OLD STUFF' you saw. And if you ahd done what Blevins did on the past of Christians. You were NOT able to investigate the wife in CA and the step-daughter (the only story we have is what I told). The FBI really screwed up in CA. Too many rookies chasing a suspect across the country without full comprehensive backgrounds on the subject and too much unaccounted for. There were multiple individiuals the FBI did NOT even call or investigate. They never talked to the people I told them about - they didn't even try to find Wong, Gun, Griffin, Thomas and Fucks....and they DID not attempt to find Horan (this was a key person in Duane's past). Through employement records they had this at their access but never touched it. The privacy act prevented me from learning of his past.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 244 #21533 February 9, 2011 You think so? Why don't you start refuting some of those 25 points with facts of your own? I haven't seen that from you. In fact, no one on this thread addressed a single one of them. Just saying they are baloney isn't enough. Where are they? A search didnt find them? You evidently forgot to label them, to make them appear in a search? Are they under one of your Rosewell posts ...? Maybe that's an omen? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjack71 0 #21534 February 9, 2011 Robert Blevins stated: Quote In any event, I think every major player in the Cooper case, no matter who they believe did the deed, should get equal time. Ha...Cook could drive to Seattle in three hours from Spokane, and yet there is nothing from him yet, even though he's a Washington state resident who has pushing his suspect for years. What's the matter Cook? Can't take the heat? Then stay out of the kitchen and go back to ambulance chasing or whatever it is you do in the legal system. That's not an insult, because I know you don't REALLY chase ambulances, but it IS a challenge. I hope you see this, or someone forwards it to you. Really, I do. I am not afraid to face you and shred your theory quicker than I shred cheese for a frickin' Red Baron pizza. It's time for you to put up or shut up. Do as you will. You want to appear on the show, just drop me an email at adventurebooksofseattle AT Gmail or put a sock in it. Ain't I awful? You can say yes. It's not a problem. Robert Blevins: Perhaps you Snowed me and/or I am misjudging, but your post was childish and yes, it was AWFUL and it is a PROBLEM! Your post was horrid - it reveals a side of you that is bolsterous and rude and confronting. I do not believe that is what the TV program is looking for. Why sit and argue about suspects. Each one quietly presents their subject and if this is to be a free for all attack on the other subjects - just leave me OUT. The kind or program you are suggesting above is a "Call Me Out" thing that I find completely disgusting. If this is what you want to turn the program into - leave me OUT. Galen and I both can sit down and talk about our subjects without attacking each other - why can't you be the same. I haven't heard you attack Grey? Talk of SHREDDING the theory of another is NOT a person I want to be around...or do a program with. If this program is not on the UP and UP in this way - then NO WAY. I want NO part of that kind of program - they are disgusting...and they are NOT productive....they are Jerry Springer things!Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 244 #21535 February 9, 2011 Quote Robert Blevins stated: Quote In any event, I think every major player in the Cooper case, no matter who they believe did the deed, should get equal time. Ha...Cook could drive to Seattle in three hours from Spokane, and yet there is nothing from him yet, even though he's a Washington state resident who has pushing his suspect for years. What's the matter Cook? Can't take the heat? Then stay out of the kitchen and go back to ambulance chasing or whatever it is you do in the legal system. That's not an insult, because I know you don't REALLY chase ambulances, but it IS a challenge. I hope you see this, or someone forwards it to you. Really, I do. I am not afraid to face you and shred your theory quicker than I shred cheese for a frickin' Red Baron pizza. It's time for you to put up or shut up. Do as you will. You want to appear on the show, just drop me an email at adventurebooksofseattle AT Gmail or put a sock in it. Ain't I awful? You can say yes. It's not a problem. Robert Blevins: Perhaps you Snowed me and/or I am misjudging, but your post was childish and yes, it was AWFUL and it is a PROBLEM! Your post was horrid - it reveals a side of you that is bolsterous and rude and confronting. I do not believe that is what the TV program is looking for. Why sit and argue about suspects. Each one quietly presents their subject and if this is to be a free for all attack on the other subjects - just leave me OUT. The kind or program you are suggesting above is a "Call Me Out" thing that I find completely disgusting. If this is what you want to turn the program into - leave me OUT. Galen and I both can sit down and talk about our subjects without attacking each other - why can't you be the same. I haven't heard you attack Grey? Talk of SHREDDING the theory of another is NOT a person I want to be around...or do a program with. If this program is not on the UP and UP in this way - then NO WAY. I want NO part of that kind of program - they are disgusting...and they are NOT productive....they are Jerry Springer things! Natural selection in motion. Jo. Bring up your war elephants and chariots. He has no archers and his swords are broomsticks. He launched this attack before consulting with his General. She's going to yank him back to a fast retreat. Blevins the Great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #21536 February 9, 2011 Jo wrote Quotethey are disgusting...and they are NOT productive....they are Jerry Springer things! You are one of the more civil participants here Jo, and I do appreciate your good manners, but in fact this needs to be a Jerry Springer show, no use trying to dress it up as something else. We need a morbidly obese spurned lover who magically breaks free from Jerry's beefy security boys and starts beating the skinny "slut" that her bail jumping paternity skipping boyfriend has shacked up with. Or better yet, one of KC's gay lovers telling all with lots of tears and hints of wild times in an Airstream. Brokeback Skyjack if you get the picture. Calm rational discourse does not attract viewers and ratings is the name of the game on TV. You need sex, violence and crying. The only exception is dancing. Dancing shows get good ratings, but this subject won't fit that genre. Farflung will be in charge of the production. He knows what to do. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 244 #21537 February 9, 2011 QuoteJo wrote Quotethey are disgusting...and they are NOT productive....they are Jerry Springer things! You are one of the more civil participants here Jo, and I do appreciate your good manners, but in fact this needs to be a Jerry Springer show, no use trying to dress it up as something else. We need a morbidly obese spurned lover who magically breaks free from Jerry's beefy security boys and starts beating the skinny "slut" that her bail jumping paternity skipping boyfriend has shacked up with. Or better yet, one of KC's gay lovers telling all with lots of tears and hints of wild times in an Airstream. Brokeback Skyjack if you get the picture. Calm rational discourse does not attract viewers and ratings is the name of the game on TV. You need sex, violence and crying. The only exception is dancing. Dancing shows get good ratings, but this subject won't fit that genre. Farflung will be in charge of the production. He knows what to do. 377 Tactically wrong! Blevins needs Jo. Jo does not need Blevins! Jo has the real weapons. Blevins is shooting his mouth. All Jo has to do is sit there and watch Blevins dance around until he either falls down or his wife jerks him back across the river (and lops his head off). Gayla is not going to risk AB Books for the sake of one more of Blevins' follies, or if she does she will go down with him. One appearance of the elephant and they will scatter like mice. Gayla knows there are unseen forces on the field. Robert thinks his vanity is enough! This is Natural Selection in its pure form. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Orange1 0 #21538 February 9, 2011 Quote This is Natural Selection in its pure form. This forum has become bullshit in its pure form. Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 244 #21539 February 9, 2011 Quote Quote This is Natural Selection in its pure form. This forum has become bullshit in its pure form. I dont set the agenda. I just try and ride the wave and hope there will be some space left for the real Cooper case. If you think this is crazy you should see what's going on behind the scenes! These may be preliminaries. Blevins has nothing. Jo has nothing. That they will go through these machinations speaks for itself ... Sluggo said it all in one line. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Farflung 0 #21540 February 9, 2011 RobertMBlevins coins: “I am not afraid to face you and shred your theory quicker than I shred cheese for a frickin’ Red Baron pizza.” I’m a little lost in the allegory here. Does this mean that you don’t take much time shredding cheese for a Red Baron pizza because they can be found in your grocery’s freezer section completely assembled? So since there is no need for cheese preparation then you would shred his theory in zero time perhaps? Additionally I have found shredding to be a verb associated with documents and papers where cheese is actually grated. Grating is one of many techniques of cutting cheese which will produce a product called ‘Shredded Cheese’. The only other thing that is shredded is a guitar riff. So maybe you could actually shred cheese if it was made into a guitar and you wanted to knock out some awesome Dick Dale tunes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UmmbF1Zyvk The more I thought about it the more profounder it got. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites EVickiW 0 #21541 February 9, 2011 QuoteThe only other thing that is shredded is a guitar riff. So maybe you could actually shred cheese if it was made into a guitar and you wanted to knock out some awesome Dick Dale tunes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UmmbF1Zyvk I watched the video and in my head heard this song....Copy Cat? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UmmbF1ZyvkMelvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjack71 0 #21542 February 9, 2011 Quote Quote This is Natural Selection in its pure form. This forum has become bullshit in its pure form. Shit Happens!And reading all of this I forgot what I came to post? Must not have been important - not at all. I am almost speachless and that is really unusual. Only blushing because I can't remember what I had to say.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites smokin99 0 #21543 February 9, 2011 Quote The only other thing that is shredded is a guitar riff. So maybe you could actually shred cheese if it was made into a guitar and you wanted to knock out some awesome Dick Dale tunes. What about wheat? Or what the dog does to the paper? Still profound, though, in a far-flung kind of way. but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #21544 February 9, 2011 Don't forget Shredded Wheat. Let's get back to DB Cooper, remember him? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Farflung 0 #21545 February 10, 2011 All good points smokin99 and 377, but the paper was acknowledged as something that in fact could be shredded by man, where I forgot about beasts like dogs and cats near any rolled cellulose products. I think it is just their frustration manifesting over what they have to use for toilet paper. Shredded Wheat is a product and like Shredded Cheese not a process. Wheat is actually milled after being soaked then combed off the rolls into those inexplicable bails of stuff that must be good for you, as there is absolutely no pleasure derived from the consumption. I was a bit astonished at the direct proportionality the increased intake of the latter had upon the use of the former. I have asked about what sort of paper bag is 12” X 14” X 4”, the boarding pass and person making seat assignments and the fact that Cooper wore all black except for brown shoes. So what up? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BobKnoss 0 #21546 February 10, 2011 Quote....and the fact that Cooper wore all black except for brown shoes. So what up? I told you so! I told you so! Cooper WAS George Gobel. And this proves it! I TOLD YOU SO! Haul out Jerry's brown shoe picture again, dig up Gobel and put that shoe on him. Farflung's got our man! It would be like OJ's trial all over again, only better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #21547 February 10, 2011 Farflung wrote: Quote the fact that Cooper wore all black except for brown shoes. So what up? Cooper must have been a Fed. I once represented a counterfeiter who avoided several attempted bulk buys that were traps. He said when the Feds pose as high roller organized crime guys, they might be wearing expensive suits but they always blew it by wearing cheap shoes. Georger would like his paper technique. He bought some kind of expensive art paper that was a very good match to currency paper, boiled styptic pencils to get a solution of alunimum and titanium salts, dipped the paper, then shredded silk threads onto the wet paper and pressed them in with a commercial ironing press. They were way better than most fake bills. This was before the days of color copiers. I've seen a lot of FBI agents who dressed well for court but they always had cheap dress shoes. How do I know they were cheap dress shoes? They matched mine. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #21548 February 10, 2011 Jo, Tell us about Duane's shoe wardrobe in 71. Was he more like me, OJ Simpson, or Imelda Marcos? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #21549 February 10, 2011 and Robert, same goes for you re KC's shoe wardrobe. Tell us what you know. One pair of Ferragamos and I am ruling him out. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BobKnoss 0 #21550 February 10, 2011 Quote Tell us about Duane's shoe wardrobe in 71. Was he more like me, OJ Simpson, or Imelda Marcos? 377 In 1968 he wore a pair of lace-up short boots, ankle high for doing yard work. Beat up and not polished in months. Brown. I watched him tie a shoe and break the lace. He retied the break and retied the shoe while he recited some Indian poem that I can't remember. For jumping he wore beat up old brown combat boots that looked like they were ready to fall apart. I'm sure he had at least one pair of nice shoes, but I never saw them. Of course, Jo will refute everything I've said here, because she didn't get a chance to review it first. It will be all wrong because he never wore lace up shoes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 857 858 859 860 861 862 863 864 865 866 867 Next Page 862 of 2568 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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377 22 #21529 February 9, 2011 Bob wrote Quote I'll return in ten years from out of the blue with the 50th Anniversary tell-all picture book. If it goes out a full decade is it still a tease? Or is it a bluff? Do we have two teasers or is Jo alone? Jo, was the TV program the focus of your most recent tease? Hope Galen mans up and faces his purported executioner. Hope Jo appears too. This is shaping up to be the DBC Super Bowl. I am putting Farflung in charge of halftime entertainment. That guarantees a hot songstress and a wardrobe malfunction. Snowmman should be solicited to participate in the questioning. If he does he'll let Robert shred Galen, then he'll shred Robert. Super Bowl or Destruction Derby? You decide. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobKnoss 0 #21530 February 9, 2011 Quote Super Bowl or Destruction Derby? You decide. 377 The last Superbowl DBC with Ralph, Bill, Nick, and who-all was a total bust concluding that McCoy and Cooper were one in the same. Not very interesting at all, even to DBC addicts. You want to put people with less credibility on a show with admitted hoaxers to do what? Tell boring 40 year old Sasquash-type stories and call each other liers, crazy, fabricators, hoaxers, and everything else we have used, collectively? You have the wrong show. You want to do a SPECIAL. The Jerry Springer Show for the Senile and Infirmed. Crutches, wheelchairs, slow drips, straight-jackets, Dr. Lector face-masks, I can see the panel now. Don't get a late night time slot, we'll all miss it. That would put the infamous Jessie James true grave site fight to shame. What? You never heard of that one? Maybe nobody really gives a shift? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobKnoss 0 #21531 February 9, 2011 QuoteQuote***...In fact, no one on this thread addressed a single one of them. Just saying they are baloney isn't enough. REPEAT: Let's discuss Lyle's letter from Kenny asking to be a strawman Cooper. Rataczak told me about it before you started your book. If you are so honest and diligent, you should be able to clear up this matter in short order. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjack71 0 #21532 February 9, 2011 It may not be feasible due to my present condition to fly or be in WA. but, what I have offered is for them to do a brief showing with the "new" stuff that I have accumulated. I will not be the focus - I do NOT want to be. This will be a display of pictures with specific details and explanations. Not some of the OLD stuff everyone has seen before. This group of photos will take to task the most ardent Cooper searcher with information that can be VERIFIED. I have asked NOT to be shown or made visible - I like the fact that my face has faded from the story. They can use an early picture of Duane and I, but this IS NOT about me - IT is about JUSTICE & TRUTH (whatever that might turn out to be). I will give a vocal - but choose they afterward use another Vocal over my voice - using my wording. The only reason I agree is that this will be the LAST time I will have a chance to show what I have found. I am not an organzied person and because what I have presented in the past was not in order and with full explanations. I will NOT be re-hashing past statements nor answering questions. Simply show WHAT I can. The only part I will require if they use some of the young pictures and history of DUANE - to see if there is ANYONE out there in the areas Duane 'PLayed' who might remember this man. I may reveal for the first time a old tape of Duane's voice. I did not see the value of it because his voice was so raspy because of a procedure he had just had done, but since the raspy voice came up again in one of the witness description I thought I would dig it out and see what could be extracted that might take the anger out of the message he left on the phone in 1990. There is a lot on that tape that would have to be censored, so I do NOT know if it is useable. I do NOT want to take anyone else's thunder. I frankly do NOT think Blevins is now into this for his own profit. He has gotten as caught up in the search as has everyone else. Even if his book flopped after the show - the show in itself might produce something that would still say - You Did IT! What he and the show are doing is actually a fair thing and we all know that Blevins only wrote the book and this thread has convinced him that Christiansen might not be Cooper. He is just a writer and he did his job. I believe that if the show resulted in a SOLID lead into the past of any "suspect" it will be a MAJOR break through. I believe this is MY LAST CHANCE to be heard, but hopefully in a way I have NEVER been heard before. I swore I would never go public again - and I am trying to do it in a way that will not impact my life and to leave me with the peace of mind - I did try and I did do what I could...to prove the t hings Duane told me. I would be appreciative of any suggestiong this forum might have of one lines that I might need to include in order to make this a fast quick and thorough view of Weber. I do not think the early "stuff" needs to be repeated in the terms it has been. The DNA needs to NOT be mentioned until the FBI can PROVE the tie belonged and was worn by Cooper. They have not in the past been able to do this and this story has been resounding ever since that plane hit the ground in Reno. That tie did NOT show up for almost 5 hours after the plane landed and could have been placed there by anyone on any leg of that trip or by one of the workers who cleaned the plane or aided in the search. So I need a BRIEF list of what needs to be mentioned by me as far as the past enquires made on WEBER...then the finally is up to me for WEBER. This is the venue I suggested to Blevins because it would not steal his thunder, but get my last message out to the public. After that is done - I will have done all I can do. The best I may hope for is that someone might remember him and maybe I can find out what my husband's past was in WA, OR and ID. This will be a vet or a old man or woman sitting in a nursing home watching TV. Maybe someone who bought one of the establishments Duane used to frequent - will have some OLD pictures - archived and buried. Whatever the results are - all I want is a fair and accurate accounting - of WEBER and without any slurs toward me or him. An OBJECTIVE look at a suspect I feel got pushed aside because of things that should not have been and poor investigative ablitities. Then when they did try to do something - it was 6 yrs too late. There were things going on in WA in 1999 that caused Weber to be ignored and for a period of time NO suspects where brought forward to be investigated...then about 4 yrs ago - all hell let loose. NO Sluggo this is NOT the "SAME OLD STUFF' you saw. And if you ahd done what Blevins did on the past of Christians. You were NOT able to investigate the wife in CA and the step-daughter (the only story we have is what I told). The FBI really screwed up in CA. Too many rookies chasing a suspect across the country without full comprehensive backgrounds on the subject and too much unaccounted for. There were multiple individiuals the FBI did NOT even call or investigate. They never talked to the people I told them about - they didn't even try to find Wong, Gun, Griffin, Thomas and Fucks....and they DID not attempt to find Horan (this was a key person in Duane's past). Through employement records they had this at their access but never touched it. The privacy act prevented me from learning of his past.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 244 #21533 February 9, 2011 You think so? Why don't you start refuting some of those 25 points with facts of your own? I haven't seen that from you. In fact, no one on this thread addressed a single one of them. Just saying they are baloney isn't enough. Where are they? A search didnt find them? You evidently forgot to label them, to make them appear in a search? Are they under one of your Rosewell posts ...? Maybe that's an omen? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #21532 February 9, 2011 It may not be feasible due to my present condition to fly or be in WA. but, what I have offered is for them to do a brief showing with the "new" stuff that I have accumulated. I will not be the focus - I do NOT want to be. This will be a display of pictures with specific details and explanations. Not some of the OLD stuff everyone has seen before. This group of photos will take to task the most ardent Cooper searcher with information that can be VERIFIED. I have asked NOT to be shown or made visible - I like the fact that my face has faded from the story. They can use an early picture of Duane and I, but this IS NOT about me - IT is about JUSTICE & TRUTH (whatever that might turn out to be). I will give a vocal - but choose they afterward use another Vocal over my voice - using my wording. The only reason I agree is that this will be the LAST time I will have a chance to show what I have found. I am not an organzied person and because what I have presented in the past was not in order and with full explanations. I will NOT be re-hashing past statements nor answering questions. Simply show WHAT I can. The only part I will require if they use some of the young pictures and history of DUANE - to see if there is ANYONE out there in the areas Duane 'PLayed' who might remember this man. I may reveal for the first time a old tape of Duane's voice. I did not see the value of it because his voice was so raspy because of a procedure he had just had done, but since the raspy voice came up again in one of the witness description I thought I would dig it out and see what could be extracted that might take the anger out of the message he left on the phone in 1990. There is a lot on that tape that would have to be censored, so I do NOT know if it is useable. I do NOT want to take anyone else's thunder. I frankly do NOT think Blevins is now into this for his own profit. He has gotten as caught up in the search as has everyone else. Even if his book flopped after the show - the show in itself might produce something that would still say - You Did IT! What he and the show are doing is actually a fair thing and we all know that Blevins only wrote the book and this thread has convinced him that Christiansen might not be Cooper. He is just a writer and he did his job. I believe that if the show resulted in a SOLID lead into the past of any "suspect" it will be a MAJOR break through. I believe this is MY LAST CHANCE to be heard, but hopefully in a way I have NEVER been heard before. I swore I would never go public again - and I am trying to do it in a way that will not impact my life and to leave me with the peace of mind - I did try and I did do what I could...to prove the t hings Duane told me. I would be appreciative of any suggestiong this forum might have of one lines that I might need to include in order to make this a fast quick and thorough view of Weber. I do not think the early "stuff" needs to be repeated in the terms it has been. The DNA needs to NOT be mentioned until the FBI can PROVE the tie belonged and was worn by Cooper. They have not in the past been able to do this and this story has been resounding ever since that plane hit the ground in Reno. That tie did NOT show up for almost 5 hours after the plane landed and could have been placed there by anyone on any leg of that trip or by one of the workers who cleaned the plane or aided in the search. So I need a BRIEF list of what needs to be mentioned by me as far as the past enquires made on WEBER...then the finally is up to me for WEBER. This is the venue I suggested to Blevins because it would not steal his thunder, but get my last message out to the public. After that is done - I will have done all I can do. The best I may hope for is that someone might remember him and maybe I can find out what my husband's past was in WA, OR and ID. This will be a vet or a old man or woman sitting in a nursing home watching TV. Maybe someone who bought one of the establishments Duane used to frequent - will have some OLD pictures - archived and buried. Whatever the results are - all I want is a fair and accurate accounting - of WEBER and without any slurs toward me or him. An OBJECTIVE look at a suspect I feel got pushed aside because of things that should not have been and poor investigative ablitities. Then when they did try to do something - it was 6 yrs too late. There were things going on in WA in 1999 that caused Weber to be ignored and for a period of time NO suspects where brought forward to be investigated...then about 4 yrs ago - all hell let loose. NO Sluggo this is NOT the "SAME OLD STUFF' you saw. And if you ahd done what Blevins did on the past of Christians. You were NOT able to investigate the wife in CA and the step-daughter (the only story we have is what I told). The FBI really screwed up in CA. Too many rookies chasing a suspect across the country without full comprehensive backgrounds on the subject and too much unaccounted for. There were multiple individiuals the FBI did NOT even call or investigate. They never talked to the people I told them about - they didn't even try to find Wong, Gun, Griffin, Thomas and Fucks....and they DID not attempt to find Horan (this was a key person in Duane's past). Through employement records they had this at their access but never touched it. The privacy act prevented me from learning of his past.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 244 #21533 February 9, 2011 You think so? Why don't you start refuting some of those 25 points with facts of your own? I haven't seen that from you. In fact, no one on this thread addressed a single one of them. Just saying they are baloney isn't enough. Where are they? A search didnt find them? You evidently forgot to label them, to make them appear in a search? Are they under one of your Rosewell posts ...? Maybe that's an omen? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #21534 February 9, 2011 Robert Blevins stated: Quote In any event, I think every major player in the Cooper case, no matter who they believe did the deed, should get equal time. Ha...Cook could drive to Seattle in three hours from Spokane, and yet there is nothing from him yet, even though he's a Washington state resident who has pushing his suspect for years. What's the matter Cook? Can't take the heat? Then stay out of the kitchen and go back to ambulance chasing or whatever it is you do in the legal system. That's not an insult, because I know you don't REALLY chase ambulances, but it IS a challenge. I hope you see this, or someone forwards it to you. Really, I do. I am not afraid to face you and shred your theory quicker than I shred cheese for a frickin' Red Baron pizza. It's time for you to put up or shut up. Do as you will. You want to appear on the show, just drop me an email at adventurebooksofseattle AT Gmail or put a sock in it. Ain't I awful? You can say yes. It's not a problem. Robert Blevins: Perhaps you Snowed me and/or I am misjudging, but your post was childish and yes, it was AWFUL and it is a PROBLEM! Your post was horrid - it reveals a side of you that is bolsterous and rude and confronting. I do not believe that is what the TV program is looking for. Why sit and argue about suspects. Each one quietly presents their subject and if this is to be a free for all attack on the other subjects - just leave me OUT. The kind or program you are suggesting above is a "Call Me Out" thing that I find completely disgusting. If this is what you want to turn the program into - leave me OUT. Galen and I both can sit down and talk about our subjects without attacking each other - why can't you be the same. I haven't heard you attack Grey? Talk of SHREDDING the theory of another is NOT a person I want to be around...or do a program with. If this program is not on the UP and UP in this way - then NO WAY. I want NO part of that kind of program - they are disgusting...and they are NOT productive....they are Jerry Springer things!Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 244 #21535 February 9, 2011 Quote Robert Blevins stated: Quote In any event, I think every major player in the Cooper case, no matter who they believe did the deed, should get equal time. Ha...Cook could drive to Seattle in three hours from Spokane, and yet there is nothing from him yet, even though he's a Washington state resident who has pushing his suspect for years. What's the matter Cook? Can't take the heat? Then stay out of the kitchen and go back to ambulance chasing or whatever it is you do in the legal system. That's not an insult, because I know you don't REALLY chase ambulances, but it IS a challenge. I hope you see this, or someone forwards it to you. Really, I do. I am not afraid to face you and shred your theory quicker than I shred cheese for a frickin' Red Baron pizza. It's time for you to put up or shut up. Do as you will. You want to appear on the show, just drop me an email at adventurebooksofseattle AT Gmail or put a sock in it. Ain't I awful? You can say yes. It's not a problem. Robert Blevins: Perhaps you Snowed me and/or I am misjudging, but your post was childish and yes, it was AWFUL and it is a PROBLEM! Your post was horrid - it reveals a side of you that is bolsterous and rude and confronting. I do not believe that is what the TV program is looking for. Why sit and argue about suspects. Each one quietly presents their subject and if this is to be a free for all attack on the other subjects - just leave me OUT. The kind or program you are suggesting above is a "Call Me Out" thing that I find completely disgusting. If this is what you want to turn the program into - leave me OUT. Galen and I both can sit down and talk about our subjects without attacking each other - why can't you be the same. I haven't heard you attack Grey? Talk of SHREDDING the theory of another is NOT a person I want to be around...or do a program with. If this program is not on the UP and UP in this way - then NO WAY. I want NO part of that kind of program - they are disgusting...and they are NOT productive....they are Jerry Springer things! Natural selection in motion. Jo. Bring up your war elephants and chariots. He has no archers and his swords are broomsticks. He launched this attack before consulting with his General. She's going to yank him back to a fast retreat. Blevins the Great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #21536 February 9, 2011 Jo wrote Quotethey are disgusting...and they are NOT productive....they are Jerry Springer things! You are one of the more civil participants here Jo, and I do appreciate your good manners, but in fact this needs to be a Jerry Springer show, no use trying to dress it up as something else. We need a morbidly obese spurned lover who magically breaks free from Jerry's beefy security boys and starts beating the skinny "slut" that her bail jumping paternity skipping boyfriend has shacked up with. Or better yet, one of KC's gay lovers telling all with lots of tears and hints of wild times in an Airstream. Brokeback Skyjack if you get the picture. Calm rational discourse does not attract viewers and ratings is the name of the game on TV. You need sex, violence and crying. The only exception is dancing. Dancing shows get good ratings, but this subject won't fit that genre. Farflung will be in charge of the production. He knows what to do. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 244 #21537 February 9, 2011 QuoteJo wrote Quotethey are disgusting...and they are NOT productive....they are Jerry Springer things! You are one of the more civil participants here Jo, and I do appreciate your good manners, but in fact this needs to be a Jerry Springer show, no use trying to dress it up as something else. We need a morbidly obese spurned lover who magically breaks free from Jerry's beefy security boys and starts beating the skinny "slut" that her bail jumping paternity skipping boyfriend has shacked up with. Or better yet, one of KC's gay lovers telling all with lots of tears and hints of wild times in an Airstream. Brokeback Skyjack if you get the picture. Calm rational discourse does not attract viewers and ratings is the name of the game on TV. You need sex, violence and crying. The only exception is dancing. Dancing shows get good ratings, but this subject won't fit that genre. Farflung will be in charge of the production. He knows what to do. 377 Tactically wrong! Blevins needs Jo. Jo does not need Blevins! Jo has the real weapons. Blevins is shooting his mouth. All Jo has to do is sit there and watch Blevins dance around until he either falls down or his wife jerks him back across the river (and lops his head off). Gayla is not going to risk AB Books for the sake of one more of Blevins' follies, or if she does she will go down with him. One appearance of the elephant and they will scatter like mice. Gayla knows there are unseen forces on the field. Robert thinks his vanity is enough! This is Natural Selection in its pure form. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orange1 0 #21538 February 9, 2011 Quote This is Natural Selection in its pure form. This forum has become bullshit in its pure form. Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 244 #21539 February 9, 2011 Quote Quote This is Natural Selection in its pure form. This forum has become bullshit in its pure form. I dont set the agenda. I just try and ride the wave and hope there will be some space left for the real Cooper case. If you think this is crazy you should see what's going on behind the scenes! These may be preliminaries. Blevins has nothing. Jo has nothing. That they will go through these machinations speaks for itself ... Sluggo said it all in one line. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farflung 0 #21540 February 9, 2011 RobertMBlevins coins: “I am not afraid to face you and shred your theory quicker than I shred cheese for a frickin’ Red Baron pizza.” I’m a little lost in the allegory here. Does this mean that you don’t take much time shredding cheese for a Red Baron pizza because they can be found in your grocery’s freezer section completely assembled? So since there is no need for cheese preparation then you would shred his theory in zero time perhaps? Additionally I have found shredding to be a verb associated with documents and papers where cheese is actually grated. Grating is one of many techniques of cutting cheese which will produce a product called ‘Shredded Cheese’. The only other thing that is shredded is a guitar riff. So maybe you could actually shred cheese if it was made into a guitar and you wanted to knock out some awesome Dick Dale tunes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UmmbF1Zyvk The more I thought about it the more profounder it got. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVickiW 0 #21541 February 9, 2011 QuoteThe only other thing that is shredded is a guitar riff. So maybe you could actually shred cheese if it was made into a guitar and you wanted to knock out some awesome Dick Dale tunes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UmmbF1Zyvk I watched the video and in my head heard this song....Copy Cat? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UmmbF1ZyvkMelvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #21542 February 9, 2011 Quote Quote This is Natural Selection in its pure form. This forum has become bullshit in its pure form. Shit Happens!And reading all of this I forgot what I came to post? Must not have been important - not at all. I am almost speachless and that is really unusual. Only blushing because I can't remember what I had to say.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smokin99 0 #21543 February 9, 2011 Quote The only other thing that is shredded is a guitar riff. So maybe you could actually shred cheese if it was made into a guitar and you wanted to knock out some awesome Dick Dale tunes. What about wheat? Or what the dog does to the paper? Still profound, though, in a far-flung kind of way. but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #21544 February 9, 2011 Don't forget Shredded Wheat. Let's get back to DB Cooper, remember him? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farflung 0 #21545 February 10, 2011 All good points smokin99 and 377, but the paper was acknowledged as something that in fact could be shredded by man, where I forgot about beasts like dogs and cats near any rolled cellulose products. I think it is just their frustration manifesting over what they have to use for toilet paper. Shredded Wheat is a product and like Shredded Cheese not a process. Wheat is actually milled after being soaked then combed off the rolls into those inexplicable bails of stuff that must be good for you, as there is absolutely no pleasure derived from the consumption. I was a bit astonished at the direct proportionality the increased intake of the latter had upon the use of the former. I have asked about what sort of paper bag is 12” X 14” X 4”, the boarding pass and person making seat assignments and the fact that Cooper wore all black except for brown shoes. So what up? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobKnoss 0 #21546 February 10, 2011 Quote....and the fact that Cooper wore all black except for brown shoes. So what up? I told you so! I told you so! Cooper WAS George Gobel. And this proves it! I TOLD YOU SO! Haul out Jerry's brown shoe picture again, dig up Gobel and put that shoe on him. Farflung's got our man! It would be like OJ's trial all over again, only better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #21547 February 10, 2011 Farflung wrote: Quote the fact that Cooper wore all black except for brown shoes. So what up? Cooper must have been a Fed. I once represented a counterfeiter who avoided several attempted bulk buys that were traps. He said when the Feds pose as high roller organized crime guys, they might be wearing expensive suits but they always blew it by wearing cheap shoes. Georger would like his paper technique. He bought some kind of expensive art paper that was a very good match to currency paper, boiled styptic pencils to get a solution of alunimum and titanium salts, dipped the paper, then shredded silk threads onto the wet paper and pressed them in with a commercial ironing press. They were way better than most fake bills. This was before the days of color copiers. I've seen a lot of FBI agents who dressed well for court but they always had cheap dress shoes. How do I know they were cheap dress shoes? They matched mine. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #21548 February 10, 2011 Jo, Tell us about Duane's shoe wardrobe in 71. Was he more like me, OJ Simpson, or Imelda Marcos? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #21549 February 10, 2011 and Robert, same goes for you re KC's shoe wardrobe. Tell us what you know. One pair of Ferragamos and I am ruling him out. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobKnoss 0 #21550 February 10, 2011 Quote Tell us about Duane's shoe wardrobe in 71. Was he more like me, OJ Simpson, or Imelda Marcos? 377 In 1968 he wore a pair of lace-up short boots, ankle high for doing yard work. Beat up and not polished in months. Brown. I watched him tie a shoe and break the lace. He retied the break and retied the shoe while he recited some Indian poem that I can't remember. For jumping he wore beat up old brown combat boots that looked like they were ready to fall apart. I'm sure he had at least one pair of nice shoes, but I never saw them. Of course, Jo will refute everything I've said here, because she didn't get a chance to review it first. It will be all wrong because he never wore lace up shoes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
