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I have an email I sent to Scott one the director of the crew that did the TV program. In this email dated May 16, 2001 which was right after I got home from that WA. trip. I tell Scott what happened after the crew left and about the truck driver. I tell him about the trail the River Lady took me on and the other 3 women I was with and the law enforcement nephew who acted as our driver and guide.

This email goes into detail about what I found...the tracks and the berm and the area where Duane had taken me...but there was something NOT right about it. I talk about the body of water JT told me wasn't there that we found and the youth camp and the man helping me understand that the trees I had seen in 1979 were 3 to 8 yrs old and then he showed me 25 yr old trees.

Then I talk about the old barn we found and the old house that was where Duane took me...but there was no one there so we didn't get out of the car. I am pissed I find this and I don't have the time and money to stay to find out more...I just have that one day.

Even as I read this post I can understand WHY I am not believed. I am having a very difficult time trying to make people see the video stored in my memory banks.

The Winterly Park part is still confusing. Between 2001 and 2010 that area changed so much I had a hard time finding Winterly Park. So many homes and condos and that were not there in 2001. But I did find that damn Tank this time - the woman has never sent me air photos that showed it, but this made the 2001 trip make more sense. I just need to see those photos she was talking about, but even better would be some from 1979 - but they probably do not exist.
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Jo, how do you know this? It is widely reported that Tina stated in the debriefing that she saw DBC take the tie off and place in on the seat next to him. In addition, Calame writes that the tie was not entered into the evidentiary collection in Seattle until four days after the skyjacking, and he has no information on where the tie was during that time.

In addition, Calame and Rhodes write that when they interviewed the FBI evidence retrieval team in the 1980s, no agent remembered seeing a tie or hearing any discussion about the tie at that time

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So 4 hours became 4 days. WOW!

Do you have a copy of that debriefing? I need to see it. Widely reported? Is this debriefing something CARR has stated or is it in documents dated and verifiable as having existed in 1971.

If your source is Calame and Rhodes forget it. Sounds like another mystery?

Perhaps this is the direction the thread needs to go - lets see the proof about the tie - where are the FBI documents that support the tie and Tina seeing him remove it? I won't reveal my source but will do so AFTER FBI dictated and dated debriefings are made public.

Why would the interviews of the stewardesses NOT be made public information after 40 yrs? What is so secret about those documents and or recordings.

I have a LOT to say about this right now but NOT in this thread.
Debriefing - Public Knowledge?
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I have an email I sent to Scott one the director of the crew that did the TV program. In this email dated May 16, 2001 which was right after I got home from that WA. trip. I tell Scott what happened after the crew left and about the truck driver. I tell him about the trail the River Lady took me on and the other 3 women I was with and the law enforcement nephew who acted as our driver and guide.
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Scott died in March of 2001. How could you be
emailing and receive any reply from a dead man?

March 16, 2001
William "Scotty" Scott, 81, who piloted the plane hijacked by the notorious D.B. Cooper died on Sunday of prostate cancer at his home in Green Valley, Ariz.

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Bruce Shelly told Jo about the area she is talking about where the youth camp was.It was a Boy scout camp and how to get to it in 96. Her story is BS.They all are, it is always convenient that none of her stories can be verified because every one you should be able to talk to is dead or to sick to talk. All most all her stories and places she says she has been have been told to her by someone else the evidence is in her stories and the countless times she as made up stories right here on drop zone.Jo has no case and Duane could never have been cooper his pictures proves that. What person when giving a detailed description could miss making a comment about those elf looking ears. Now thats a highlight not even a 5yr old could miss.Further more her trip gets her to other places still not Seattle. Heres a point if duane was Cooper don't you think Tina would have come out of the wood work by now. Trust me just saying and can say no more. Jerry

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I have an email I sent to Scott one the director of the crew that did the TV program. In this email dated May 16, 2001 which was right after I got home from that WA. trip. I tell Scott what happened after the crew left and about the truck driver. I tell him about the trail the River Lady took me on and the other 3 women I was with and the law enforcement nephew who acted as our driver and guide.
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Scott died in March of 2001. How could you be
emailing and receive any reply from a dead man?

March 16, 2001
William "Scotty" Scott, 81, who piloted the plane hijacked by the notorious D.B. Cooper died on Sunday of prostate cancer at his home in Green Valley, Ariz.



oh what a tangled web we weave ... even if only ourselves we do deceive (with apologies to scott (the other one))
Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

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I have an email I sent to Scott one the director of the crew that did the TV program. In this email dated May 16, 2001 which was right after I got home from that WA. trip. I tell Scott what happened after the crew left and about the truck driver. I tell him about the trail the River Lady took me on and the other 3 women I was with and the law enforcement nephew who acted as our driver and guide.
.



Scott died in March of 2001. How could you be
emailing and receive any reply from a dead man?

March 16, 2001
William "Scotty" Scott, 81, who piloted the plane hijacked by the notorious D.B. Cooper died on Sunday of prostate cancer at his home in Green Valley, Ariz.



oh what a tangled web we weave ... even if only ourselves we do deceive (with apologies to scott (the other one))



http://articles.latimes.com/2001/mar/16/local/me-38554

Scott died Sunday March 11 2001. Obviously Jo
did not know she was emailing a dead man?
She could not have received a reply from Scott himself.

What bothers me more is all the "telling" Jo does.

"I tell Scott what happened after .... I tell him
about the trail ... the River Lady took me on
and the other 3 women I was with and the law
enforcement nephew who acted as our driver and
guide."

Did Scott know Jo? Did Jo know Scott? Would Scott
even care?

Would a living Scott have turned around and
said: 'who the XXXX is this Jo Weber? What is her
status in this?'

What is Scott supposed to say to something like
this? Would he care at all, or give her any credence,
whoever Jo Weber is (with all of her witnesses)!?
Is Jo expecting Scott to stop in his tracks and call
a news conference and say: "Jesus Chirst! I know
who Cooper was! He's some guy named Duane
Weber!"

There is a major dissconnect in this somewhere.
I think it's in me!

Let's skip to the chase:

The reason there is money at Tena/Tina Bar
is because that is where Duane let Jo out of
the car to bury the dead cat in the money bag.
There are witnesses: the whole crew of the Russian
aircraft carrier, CCCP Komarovsky.... and the law
enforcement nephew.

Blevins now MUST revise his book! I warned him.

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Some good points about the tie clasp smokin99 exposed. Kind of hit me like a bucket of cold wet mackerels after realizing the function of the device is to keep the tie from taking a dip in the bathroom sink or ending in the business end of a paper shredder.

Then I began to think if there was some possible way that I may have missed more. Well, not likely considering my dazzling level of hunkyness and humble ‘Right All of the Time-ness’ which I possess. Yet I collected some more data about the Cooper neckwear which may be interesting.

First is the way the accessory was attached to the haberdashery using an FBI photograph. With the lack of background references, simply flipping the image changed the entire ‘left handed’ clasp dynamic. That was easy.

Is there another data source for the tie (0:35 - 0:53)?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLOgfkv4alk&feature=related

Now is the time when we suppress what we don’t like and amplify, repeatedly to the point of becoming a mantra what we do like; under the auspices of seeking the truth.

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I read it to mean that Scott was one of the directors of the documentary. Not the pilot Scott. Did I miss something?



Makes sense. "I have an email I sent to Scott one the director of the crew that did the TV program..."

Scott one?

Who is Scott two?

Does anyone speaka di Englkitsch here!?

Why must we continually have to translate Jo's
allegories? If she is the ONLy exspert on the Cooper
case .............. no wonder Duane was Zhivago and
Jo is Lara!

Maybe she means: "I have an email I sent to Scott the one who directed the crew that did the TV program..." ????????????????????????????????
Scott being a first name.

Jo is loving this! Jo has accomplished her mission!

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Some good points about the tie clasp smokin99 exposed. Kind of hit me like a bucket of cold wet mackerels after realizing the function of the device is to keep the tie from taking a dip in the bathroom sink or ending in the business end of a paper shredder.

Then I began to think if there was some possible way that I may have missed more. Well, not likely considering my dazzling level of hunkyness and humble ‘Right All of the Time-ness’ which I possess. Yet I collected some more data about the Cooper neckwear which may be interesting.

First is the way the accessory was attached to the haberdashery using an FBI photograph. With the lack of background references, simply flipping the image changed the entire ‘left handed’ clasp dynamic. That was easy.

Is there another data source for the tie (0:35 - 0:53)?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLOgfkv4alk&feature=related

Now is the time when we suppress what we don’t like and amplify, repeatedly to the point of becoming a mantra what we do like; under the auspices of seeking the truth.



As usual you make me smile :)
Funny thing....I was watching the AMC channel this weekend ..a true-life movie about Barbara Graham. Woman executed in California in 50's. Starred Susan Hayward. Based on notes and writings of a newpaper reporter who came to believe in "Bloody Babs" innocence.

At the end of movie after she has been executed, the newpaper reporter is given a letter from her. He goes to put it in his inside pocket and.....yep you guessed it...his tie clasp was tacked to his shirt. It was a sad movie but that made me laugh.
Just thought I'd share. :)
but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill

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Jo,
I meant to ask you this the other day and then forgot. A long time ago you posted something to the effect that the composite artist had a difficult time portraying a feature of the hijacker that the witnesses told him. I've searched but you know how this forum kind of rambles in many different directions. It went from the ears to the sagging eye, broad forehead, widows peak, etc. etc. etc. I got tired.

I can't remember if you said that this was something to do with Cooper's mouth expression or his forehead. Do you remember this discussion? What was the feature that he had a hard time portraying?



Very excellent question Smokin99.

Jo can you tell us more about this in the forum?

Vicki
Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:

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No worry she has made statements in the past that she has talked to the pilot. So regardless of what she comes back with her past stories leads one to believe it was the pilot. I was led to believe it was the pilot.She no's the only Scott that most people here on drop zone is familiar with is Scott the pilot. So why would she post anything else.Jerry

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No worry she has made statements in the past that she has talked to the pilot. So regardless of what she comes back with her past stories leads one to believe it was the pilot. I was led to believe it was the pilot.She no's the only Scott that most people here on drop zone is familiar with is Scott the pilot. So why would she post anything else.Jerry



Jo has no hard evidence. She let it all slip away;
she unwittingly threw it out with the garbage,
if it ever existed.

The FBI was unable to find any link between
Duane and the Cooper case.

The world will never know or be able to decide
until some 'Cooper' is found and announced
by the FBI. (Sluggo knows a lot he isnt saying
for some reason.)

I see this as futile whatever the truth is.

Jo is playing two roles. Advocate for Duane.
Expert in her own right on the DB Cooper case.
JoBI. The FBI is sitting laughing.

Blevins asserted himself an expert on the case,
but has apparently given up the chase as a waste
of his time, maybe. 377 is an expert. Sluggo is
an expert. There are a lot of experts and saavy
people, Quade included. You are an expert in your
own right with actual experience on the ground.
There are lots of experts, apparently.

I think the FBI should be working with the
Smithsonian, at this point! Maybe they are.

Maybe my grandkids will read about it some day?
In Chinese or Spanish!

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no wonder Duane was Zhivago and
Jo is Lara!



A Pasternak love story? Come on Georger, Kafka provides far better analogies.

Samuel Beckett is even better. Waiting for Cooper.

377
2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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Georger wrote: Blevins asserted himself an expert on the case,
but has apparently given up the chase as a waste
of his time, maybe. 377 is an expert. Sluggo is
an expert. There are a lot of experts and saavy
people, Quade included. You are an expert in your
own right with actual experience on the ground.
There are lots of experts, apparently. ***

377 hereby disclaims any Cooper expertise. Seriously. I just read the mail here, throw in a few critiques and lobby for clemency for Snowmman.

We had some science experts here, but after tossing some money in the Columbia on th end of a fishing line they were never heard from again.

377
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no wonder Duane was Zhivago and
Jo is Lara!



A Pasternak love story? Come on Georger, Kafka provides far better analogies.

Samuel Beckett is even better. Waiting for Cooper.

377

Duane was Duke Leto Atreides.
In this time, the most precious substance in the universe is the spice Melange. The spice extends life. The spice expands consciousness. The spice is vital to space travel. The Spacing Guild and its navigators, who the spice has mutated over 4,000 years, use the orange spice gas, which gives them the ability to fold space. That is, travel to any part of universe without moving.

Jo has the Spice and has folded Cooper space.
She doesn't know it - just has and does it.

Anfd some say this Internet has no power!

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Ah yes, Frank Herbert, why didnt I think of that?

You have finally resolved the famous Jo-Jerry topology paradox. Jo was folding space.

377
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Barbara (better call her Babs) Graham was one tough chick.

Legend has it, while she was getting strapped into the gas chamber, one of the guards told her if she would breathe deeply and not to fight the poison gas it would be much easier on her. She looks up at the guard and asks, “How would you know?” Classic last words if true, still pretty damn good if not.

Just goes to show how often things are not as they appear at first blush…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8vP3XmC0go

I’m not afraid to admit some tiny affinity for dominant women like Susan Hayward in ‘I Want To Live!’ or Carola Standertskjold with her enchanting performance of ‘Perfidia’ where this Finnish woman, sings a gentle Latin ballad, about treachery and betrayal, by some unknown lover; possibly another woman? Susan Hayward?

I honestly (code for massive road apples ahead) have not given the possibility much thought. At least I left out any mention of nuns since this thread is about DB Cooper.

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You aren't fooling anyone Farflung. These pinups are just an attempt to throw us off the trail.

You haven't kicked the habit. Admit it, you have this fantasy that you can make any nun sing.

I am convinced the Amboy chute wasn't Cooper's but why so little interest in how it got there? The military is usually all over crash site evidence matter how old. It is very important to them to locate remains if there are any and bring closure to surviving family members. Maybe they determined it was just a discarded surplus canopy.

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I have an email I sent to Scott one the director of the crew that did the TV program. In this email dated May 16, 2001 which was right after I got home from that WA. trip. I tell Scott what happened after the crew left and about the truck driver. I tell him about the trail the River Lady took me on and the other 3 women I was with and the law enforcement nephew who acted as our driver and guide.
.



Scott died in March of 2001. How could you be
emailing and receive any reply from a dead man?

March 16, 2001
William "Scotty" Scott, 81, who piloted the plane hijacked by the notorious D.B. Cooper died on Sunday of prostate cancer at his home in Green Valley, Ariz.



EXCUSE ME! THIS IS TYPICAL OF HOW YOU TWIST THINGS! RE-READ THE POST - THE SCOTT I AM TALKING ABOUT IS ONE OF THE DIRECTORS OF THE CREW WHO DID THE TV SHOW IN 2001.
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Bruce Shelly told Jo about the area she is talking about where the youth camp was.




Excuse me again - this was the Currie Youth Camp and NOT a Boy's Scout camp and the undercover cop and I spoke with the director of the camp who came out to see if he could help us. I have the CARD he gave to us with his name and position on the card - he is the one who told me about the trees and the ages of the trees,.

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It was a Boy scout camp and how to get to it in 96.




I never found the Boy Scout Camp that was referenced. I was told that a Scout Camp existed in the area, but the Currie Youth Camp and the Scout Camp are two different places.


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They all are, it is always convenient that none of her stories can be verified because every one you should be able to talk to is dead or to sick to talk

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Three of the women and the law enforcement officer are STILL alive, and they would talk to the FBI, but NONE of them will ever come to a forum and expose themselves to the abuse I have taken from JT.


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Here's a point if Duane was Cooper don't you think Tina would have come out of the wood work by now.



The FBI never took the time to explore the other pictures of Duane and present a study. As far as I know the witnesses have never been show a picture of Duane Weber other than thru the media and writers.

NOT one person has seen the studies done by artists and the unpublicized pictures of Weber never seen by this thread or the media
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No worry she has made statements in the past that she has talked to the pilot. So regardless of what she comes back with her past stories leads one to believe it was the pilot. I was led to believe it was the pilot.She no's the only Scott that most people here on drop zone is familiar with is Scott the pilot. So why would she post anything else.Jerry



I have talked to the co-pilot and if I said pilot that was in error. Usually one can go to the prior conversation and know what I am talking about. I have never talked to the Scott the Pilot of the Skyjacked plane. My conversation have been with the co-pilot.
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377,

I’m busted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lpc1x87Huo&feature=related

You’re right, I can’t kick the ‘habit’ and you can guess who’s sorry now…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjHJ_snG3RI

Could you imagine a raven haired beauty like Connie Francis as a nun? Too much to ask…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0S3vtQB68o

Who’s sorry now, huh? Not me that’s for sure.

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I read it to mean that Scott was one of the directors of the documentary. Not the pilot Scott. Did I miss something?



You are correct and didn't miss anything - this is what I have put up with for 15 yrs from JT and why my story got discredited. He has manipulated the media and the FBI...for his own purpose and that is NOT to solve this case.

It is all about JT's insufferable EGO to make himself part of the the Cooper saga and he doesn't care who he steps on or suppresses. Jerry is one of the MAJOR reason this case has NOT been solved.
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