Sluggo_Monster 0 #22201 March 1, 2011 Farflung's Dream Web Page Blog NORJAK Forum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVickiW 0 #22202 March 1, 2011 Uh.....yeah......where is the R rating!!! Some of us could be offended by such......ah, who the hell am I kidding. That was a good one Sluggo!!Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryThomas 0 #22203 March 1, 2011 Tossing that money in the river is something I was not a part of or did I agrree with. I remember asking Tom what results he was looking for as he was smiling at the cameras the smile told me all I realy needed to know.I tried to get him off the columbia and do some real research. Later while Larry Carr and I was talking Larry made the statement that if Tom had it his way the case would be solved and Cooper had landed in the Columbia River and died. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #22204 March 1, 2011 QuoteLarry made the statement that if Tom had it his way the case would be solved and Cooper had landed in the Columbia River and died. Jerry Sometimes I wonder. No chute has been found. Cooper would have been crazy to walk out with the chute. Could he have gone into the Columbia? Open chute or closed chute that would have been fatal and the chute and body might never be found. The money could have been dredged up and ended up in dredge spoils at Tena Bar. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #22205 March 1, 2011 Jo wroteQuoteIt is all about JT's insufferable EGO to make himself part of the the Cooper saga That's not the case Jo. JT is just a guy looking for Coopers remains. He has never once claimed to be part of the Cooper saga. You have. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #22206 March 1, 2011 QuoteJo wroteQuoteIt is all about JT's insufferable EGO to make himself part of the the Cooper saga That's not the case Jo. JT is just a guy looking for Coopers remains. He has never once claimed to be part of the Cooper saga. You have. 377 I will beg to differ with you on that. When one deliberately misleads others about the claims of another - and demeans them in public and to the media - THAT IS Making Himself part of the Cooper saga. Pehaps your definition of saga and mine are different. He has made himself a part of the Cooper Story (saga). Everytime there was a suspect JT got himself in the picture. Have you ever read the articles written about Jerry? Until you do don't discount my statement!Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 244 #22207 March 1, 2011 Quote Quote Jo wrote Quote It is all about JT's insufferable EGO to make himself part of the the Cooper saga That's not the case Jo. JT is just a guy looking for Coopers remains. He has never once claimed to be part of the Cooper saga. You have. 377 I will beg to differ with you on that. When one deliberately misleads others about the claims of another - and demeans them in public and to the media - THAT IS Making Himself part of the Cooper saga. As you have repeatedly done to numerous others including the FBI? The only person making JT a part of the Cooper story is you. JT is not the issue - your story and you are. The only person making you a part of the Cooper story is, guess who? YOU. Without you, you and your story would vanish in a heartbeat. But you will continue as long as you can .... You surpass all understanding, to yourself. But you will dissmiss everything anyone says in this matter ... or you wouldnt be in this in the first place. Jo, you are howling at the Moon. Nothing anyone says here matters! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryThomas 0 #22208 March 1, 2011 I purchased A copy of a "TRUE COMICS" dated Dec 1943 Volume #30 today. This comic book features stories of combat and Baseball. What makes this comic book interesting is it has a story about the Cooper Brothers The title of this short story is the Cooper brothers of Baseball Fame.Point being there is a lot of stories in comic books using the Cooper name during that time frame. Kind of makes you wonder doesn't it.So the question I ask a while back as to how Cooper picked his name is realy very debatable.If you go to eBay and type in TRUE COMICS 1943 you will see a bunch of them. There is even a couple of the isues that I picked up today . Could Cooper have gotten his name from a comic book printed in the US or from Cooper Tires you use to see the signs all over especially around Airports. There used to be a few Very large billboards advertising Cooper Tires around the Portland Airport back in the late 60's and early 70's . One last thing Geof Grey called today he is back from Mexico and had a blast . The book is ready for release he didn't mention a date.Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #22209 March 1, 2011 Quote The only person making you a part of the Cooper story is, guess who? YOU. Without you, you and your story would vanish in a heartbeat. But you will continue as long as you can .... You surpass all understanding, to yourself. But you will dissmiss everything anyone says in this matter ... or you wouldnt be in this in the first place. Jo, you are howling at the Moon. Nothing anyone says here matters! Howling at the Moon. A lone wolf will Howl a the Moon to let other know they are there. Have you ever seen the lone wolf go into STALKING mode. She will stay down wind so the prey does not get the scent. When she goes in for the kill is swift. Have you ever seen the remains of a sheep after the kill? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #22210 March 1, 2011 Quote . . One last thing Geof Grey called today he is back from Mexico and had a blast . The book is ready for release he didn't mention a date.Jerry You are NOT the only one who got a phone call from Geoffry today!Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 244 #22211 March 1, 2011 Quote Quote The only person making you a part of the Cooper story is, guess who? YOU. Without you, you and your story would vanish in a heartbeat. But you will continue as long as you can .... You surpass all understanding, to yourself. But you will dissmiss everything anyone says in this matter ... or you wouldnt be in this in the first place. Jo, you are howling at the Moon. Nothing anyone says here matters! Howling at the Moon. A lone wolf will Howl a the Moon to let other know they are there. Have you ever seen the lone wolf go into STALKING mode. She will stay down wind so the prey does not get the scent. When she goes in for the kill is swift. Have you ever seen the remains of a sheep after the kill? You obviously know nothing about wolves! "Abandoning the pack also means leaving behind the protection other members offer. Because of wolves' territorial nature, loners must be cautious about trespassing into lands belonging to other packs. To safely find food, a lone wolf may need to search for hundreds of miles. Or, a wolf may float between the borders of pack territories, checking scent marks to make sure that it isn't in danger. To further conceal its whereabouts, a lone wolf greatly limits its howling in order to avoid detection, or it risks giving away its location to enemies. Lone wolves are far more likely to be sick and die, or fall prey to being taken by hunters and farmers." You have been watching too much TV. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orange1 0 #22212 March 1, 2011 Quote Samuel Beckett is even better. Waiting for Cooper. 377 Indeed! With much the same result I fear.Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orange1 0 #22213 March 1, 2011 Quote Quote Larry made the statement that if Tom had it his way the case would be solved and Cooper had landed in the Columbia River and died. Jerry Sometimes I wonder. No chute has been found. Cooper would have been crazy to walk out with the chute. Could he have gone into the Columbia? Open chute or closed chute that would have been fatal and the chute and body might never be found. The money could have been dredged up and ended up in dredge spoils at Tena Bar. 377 Dunno about dredging but I think the chances are high that this is a good reason neither Cooper nor chute nor other bills have been found ....... you know ........ Occam's Razor Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryThomas 0 #22214 March 1, 2011 Orange 1 Jolly day to you . According to all info and to include the aircraft crew. It was imposible for Cooper to have landed in the columbia river. The army corps of engineers, states that the money entered the columbia river threw the Washougal Watershed. I've done tests by placing items in the washougal and actually found these items on Tena bar. For the record I was asked to Join the Investigation by Ralph H amd the FBI back in 1988. I did not lie may way into this story like others did nor did I make up stories and Lie to the FBI like it has been proven that others have nor did I force my way into any documentary making false claims as others have . People like this do not care about anythig but themselves. Are real estate agents like that. Of course they are.Every time I have had involvement in this case it has been by others request. Even being on drop zone. I was invited to apear on drop zone. any time it is requested that I leave Drop Zone I will be glad to do so.Others should and do have the same courtesy, will except for one. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 244 #22215 March 1, 2011 QuoteOrange 1 Jolly day to you . According to all info and to include the aircraft crew. It was imposible for Cooper to have landed in the columbia river. The army corps of engineers, states that the money entered the columbia river threw the Washougal Watershed. I've done tests by placing items in the washougal and actually found these items on Tena bar. Jerry, your statement above is just wrong. The USACE made no such statement. It was one person (Bradley) at the CE who merely expressed an "idea" and it was nothing more than an idea based on incomplete information available at the time. There is no proof whatever that the money came from or through the Washougal. Bradley at the Corps of Engineers was not the only hydrologist consulted, or even the first. People at the US Geological Survey were also consulted - they also employ hydrologists. A person at the USGS issued a specific 'tributary' report and his report may have been the basis for Bradley's report. They definately consulted. Moreover, when Palmer repeated this idea for the FBI he was 'grilled' by Agents who seriously doubted the veracity of the Washougal idea based on their own ideas at the time. This is the first I am hearing you conducted hydrological tests to have items flow from the Washougal to Tina Bar ?! When did you conduct these tests? What was your starting point(s) and vectors of flow? What were the timelines? Please explain... this is brand new data, apparently ... ? Where is your documentation and why wasn't presented earlier when Tom and Larry could have used it? Jo Weber's is a made-up account equally out of synch with the facts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farflung 0 #22216 March 1, 2011 I got a little confused about which Scott was being discussed and decided to do some problem solving. I hate being complete or succinct as much as the next guy; yet still have this expectation of being thoroughly understood. I see no lack of alignment in my perspective, so you can imagine my surprise not knowing what ‘Scott one’ meant. The key lies in disambiguation which will then eliminate my natural bias to favor one Scott over another. This called for a comprehensive crafting of the ‘List of Many Scotts’ which include every conceivable Scott and contraction or corruption of the same; with an associated alpha-numeric reference. Here is an example of its use: I used Scott (4B2PP) to clean up my report. Isn’t that better? No more confusion on this subject will ever happen again and this thread can get back to efficient and effective communications. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #22217 March 1, 2011 In the words of Superman himself, "Great Scott." Perry White, editor of the Daily Planet, preferrred "Great Ceasar's Ghost". Farflung prefers Nun of the above. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #22218 March 1, 2011 Awaiting the details of Jerry's Washougal-Tena Bar hydro transport test protocol which Georger requested. Rubber ducks are not good analogs for bundled bills. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #22219 March 1, 2011 Duane's various clemencies and sentence commutations could be described as getting off Scott Free. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 244 #22220 March 1, 2011 QuoteAwaiting the details of Jerry's Washougal-Tena Bar hydro transport test protocol which Georger requested. Rubber ducks are not good analogs for bundled bills. 377 well... I am sitting here patiently waiting, without comment, because this is the frst time I have ever heard of anything like this ... I can tell the whole world: this would have been a centerpiece for the Science Panel and Larry Carr, had we known about it... So let's have it, whatever it is. Better late than never? Is it in Geof Gray's book coming out!? Now maybe you get an idea of just how frustrating this whole thing has been, right from the gitgo!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farflung 0 #22221 March 2, 2011 377 ambiguously communicated: “Duane’s various clemencies and sentence commutations could be described as getting off Scott free.” Does this mean that Duane was getting off Scott (5?), free? As in Scott (5?) was not expected to render any payment? Or was Duane getting off Scot (NO YF) free? One can already appreciate the value of the List of Many Scotts (WTF4) and how getting off Scott (34C) free is a good thing. Sometimes I take Scott (32B) for a ride before jumping on a Scott (10SPD) and then get off really fast. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #22222 March 2, 2011 QuoteYou obviously know nothing about wolves! "Abandoning the pack also means leaving behind the protection other members offer. Because of wolves' territorial nature, loners must be cautious about trespassing into lands belonging to other packs. To safely find food, a lone wolf may need to search for hundreds of miles. Or, a wolf may float between the borders of pack territories, checking scent marks to make sure that it isn't in danger. To further conceal its whereabouts, a lone wolf greatly limits its howling in order to avoid detection, or it risks giving away its location to enemies. Lone wolves are far more likely to be sick and die, or fall prey to being taken by hunters and farmers." You have been watching too much TV. You have never lived on a farm that had sheep slaughtered by a lone wolf. Maybe the wolf was sick? I never heard the wolf howl, but we did loose sheep to LONE wolves Since our land was mostly pasture - perhaps he was sick and lured by the easy prey of the sheep....maybe it was just a wild dog. Any heavily wooded areas with rocky ridges and caves were further on out the Bardstown Rd. We had some thickets of trees, but they would have offered little protection for a wolf. I agree - this may have been a sick wolf. My brother would remember more about this than I do.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #22223 March 2, 2011 QuoteJo Weber's is a made-up account equally out of synch with the facts. All I can attest to is the places Duane Weber took me to and the things he told me and that other parties have deliberately denied these places existed. WHY? I never made any of this up - and I will swear this before the Creator. The other things are the documents left behind and others acquired myself or acquired by others on my behalf. I have tried NOT to fill in the blank spaces - that is the job of the FBI. Problem with this they could NOT even get his background straight and it was there for the asking.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #22224 March 2, 2011 How do you know it was a wolf and not a coyote or even a vicious feral dog Jo? The subject of whether wolves ever roamed KY during the period of your youth is controversial. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #22225 March 2, 2011 QuoteQuoteOrange 1 Jolly day to you . According to all info and to include the aircraft crew. It was imposible for Cooper to have landed in the columbia river. The army corps of engineers, states that the money entered the columbia river threw the Washougal Watershed. I've done tests by placing items in the washougal and actually found these items on Tena bar. Geprger then replied: QuoteJerry, your statement above is just wrong. ============================================== Note Jerry you made more than ONE mistake in the above post. Not only did the USACE make no such statement, You never conducted a test by placing items in the Wahougal and finding them on Tina's Bar. As you always said to me - PROVE IT! If you can't PROVE it you are LIEING. How does if FEEL to have one of your own stories fly in your face? Remember this when you dispute something I say especially when YOU KNOW I am telling the truth. You just do it to be MEAN and to make yourself seem important. I only did this so you would know how it feels to be on the receiving end rather than the one dishing it out.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
