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What would the Master Neighborhood look like?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUzs5dlLrm0

Yes indeed, the weekend Squire (read 377) comes out to mow the lawn. Sound like paradise.

Rows of houses that are all the same, and no one seems to care. From Mickey’s lips to the HOAs ears.

See Mrs. Grey (code for smokin99) is proud today because she’s lounging at the lake.

Happy now smokin99, enjoy your leisure activities while leaving the rest of your subdivision behind to suffer glancing at your overdeveloped dichondra?

Well you both better get in step and learn to follow the ‘Unwritten Rules’ so generously passed to you via passive aggressive and well rehearsed speech structure. Try to imagine being great for a change. Join in and be part of one HOA, one approved color of beige and the same tastefully elegant height of lawn.

lol again...Guess I'm a noncomformist. My favorite was always guitarist Michael Nesmith while all of my cooler friends thought Davy was the cats meow. They thought I was nuts.....Go figure...

but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill

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If you keep this up Farflung I'll have to buy another refrigerator. This last poster has used up the remaining real eatate on the exterior of my thirty three year old Frigidaire.

I never thought of the lawn police as Turf Nazis, but now I do and I am getting pissed.

Who are they to say that green is superior to brown?

The solution is coming, dandelion season, weeds galore and they will spread their little paratrooper seeds far and wide with the spring winds.

They can have my antenna when they pry it out of my cold dead hands.

377

Im enjoying all of this. Never had one
problem antenna-neighbor-wise. Over the years
have even got the local utility to make changes
to accomodate my hobby.

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If you keep this up Farflung I'll have to buy another refrigerator. This last poster has used up the remaining real eatate on the exterior of my thirty three year old Frigidaire.

I never thought of the lawn police as Turf Nazis, but now I do and I am getting pissed.

Who are they to say that green is superior to brown?

The solution is coming, dandelion season, weeds galore and they will spread their little paratrooper seeds far and wide with the spring winds.

They can have my antenna when they pry it out of my cold dead hands.

377

Im enjoying all of this. Never had one
problem antenna-neighbor-wise. Over the years
have even got the local utility to make changes
to accomodate my hobby.

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You guys actually have lawns????

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If you keep this up Farflung I'll have to buy another refrigerator. This last poster has used up the remaining real eatate on the exterior of my thirty three year old Frigidaire.

I never thought of the lawn police as Turf Nazis, but now I do and I am getting pissed.

Who are they to say that green is superior to brown?

The solution is coming, dandelion season, weeds galore and they will spread their little paratrooper seeds far and wide with the spring winds.

They can have my antenna when they pry it out of my cold dead hands.

377

Im enjoying all of this. Never had one
problem antenna-neighbor-wise. Over the years
have even got the local utility to make changes
to accomodate my hobby.

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You guys actually have lawns????

yep.

Try this for a hoot. Eagles and barn owls and chicks.
Millions of visitors, schools, ... enjoy.

http://www.ustream.tv/decoraheagles

attached taken 5 mins ago live - storm is moving in
so everyone is anxious to know how they do .. can
hear wind and thunder in the background ... big
storm through Sunday...

Ausie and California owl links on the same page,
all live. Falcon at Rochester NY, etc ...

That eagle nest is over a ton and 8 feet wide
for scale, 80 feet up.

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Try this for a hoot. Eagles and barn owls and chicks.
Millions of visitors, schools, ... enjoy.

http://www.ustream.tv/decoraheagles

attached taken 5 mins ago live - storm is moving in
so everyone is anxious to know how they do .. can hear wind and thunder in the background ... big storm through Sunday...

Ausie and California owl links on the same page,
all live. Falcon at Rochester NY, etc ...

That eagle nest is over a ton and 8 feet wide,
for scale.

Now that is awesome!! I love the video collages of the layings and hatchings. Amazing. Thanks for sharing!

but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill

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Try this for a hoot. Eagles and barn owls and chicks.
Millions of visitors, schools, ... enjoy.

http://www.ustream.tv/decoraheagles

attached taken 5 mins ago live - storm is moving in
so everyone is anxious to know how they do .. can hear wind and thunder in the background ... big storm through Sunday...

Ausie and California owl links on the same page,
all live. Falcon at Rochester NY, etc ...

That eagle nest is over a ton and 8 feet wide,
for scale.

Now that is awesome!! I love the video collages of the hatchings. Amazing. Thanks for sharing!

So far mom and dad have brought in large fish,
ground squirrel, half of what looked like a ground
hog, msc birds and what looked like half a pheasant,
and one good sized racoon some think was climbing
up to inspect the nest (big mistake!).

The camera is controlable, can sweep and auto
focus when one of the eagles is flying around ...
at night they switch to Infra Red which is what we
are seeing now ... the eagles evidently cant see
IR?

At times the chicks are a circus and funny to watch
.. keeps the parent on guard busy.

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Try this for a hoot. Eagles and barn owls and chicks.
Millions of visitors, schools, ... enjoy.

http://www.ustream.tv/decoraheagles

attached taken 5 mins ago live - storm is moving in
so everyone is anxious to know how they do .. can hear wind and thunder in the background ... big storm through Sunday...

Ausie and California owl links on the same page,
all live. Falcon at Rochester NY, etc ...

That eagle nest is over a ton and 8 feet wide,
for scale.

Now that is awesome!! I love the video collages of the hatchings. Amazing. Thanks for sharing!

So far mom and dad have brought in large fish,
ground squirrel, half of what looked like a ground
hog, msc birds and what looked like half a pheasant,
and one good sized racoon some think was climbing
up to inspect the nest (big mistake!).

Do they share the sitting duties? I couldn't tell but in one video of the hatches it looked like one left and the other took over..but I guess it could have been the editing?

My first glimpse of an eagle's nest in the "wild" (meaning outside of a zoo) was when I went to my first shuttle launch. Kennedy Space Ctr is also a national reserve. I'm sure we probably have them in South GA but I'd never seen one.

but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill

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I'm almost afraid to mention it for fear of killing it, but we seem to have entered a peaceful collegial mood on the forum. Nobody is taking shots at anyone else. Sweet!

That Eagle's nest cam is so cool Georger. We get Golden and Bald Eagles out here. I've seen both in the Pt. Reyes area. Not plentiful though.

I like Ospreys. Saw one almost get pulled under, sunk his talons into a fish that was a bit too big.

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.1&thid=12f36e2e06aa6e7d&mt=application/pdf&url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui%3D2%26ik%3D4796dee836%26view%3Datt%26th%3D12f36e2e06aa6e7d%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3Dsafe%26zw&sig=AHIEtbQhLWVVFUuZ-WieyNrpM3Jpg4lnRw&pli=1

I know Georger will find this article interesting.

This system was operating at McChord AFB and should have made it a piece of cake for the scrambled F 106s to intercept the NWA 727.

How humiliating to have a C 130 Herc make the catch and the F 106s miss it.

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About the last Cooper post out here. Something is brewing! I can smell it all they way down here in the deep Ole South.
The strange aroma might be coming out of N.Y., WA., CA., Alaska or Iowa.

I do not usually check another email address I use - but, it is the one that Knoss used. After he left I got several emails from him and informed him the ONLY thing about his story I could ever verify was the part about Duane and his wife having been in MN. for a brief time...a statement I had made over and over to him in all the yrs I talked to him and a statement I posted on this thread. WELL, He left a doozy of an email on the 4th of April I did NOT read until today April 8th, 2011.

He was sounding like someone else we know. I think NOW I have been called every name in the book (and some that are not), because I will NOT buy into "his" story or others stories I have heard. I had ALL of the paper work and emails to show exactly how his story evolved right down to the milk can which NEVER existed. I remembered the day "milk can" became a part of his story and only after I had told him about the farm and the barn...which I thought might have been a dairy farm.

Now I am a bitch and he signed himself as Richard McCoy's friend. I do not understand why so many of the Cooper Chasers associated themselves with Richard McCoy.

Everyone thinks I am delusional and I think some of the other chasers have some really serious problems big time. There is one thing I do know. I have NOT made-up any of the things I have told over these 15 yrs. The things I saw and held with my own eyes and the things Duane showed me and told me.

I have tried NOT to BITE into the many stories I have been told about Duane other than those that I have been able to verify on my own or with a little help.

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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Do they share the sitting duties? I couldn't tell but in one video of the hatches it looked like one left and the other took over..but I guess it could have been the editing?

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About the last Cooper post out here. Something is brewing! I can smell it all they way down here in the deep Ole South.
The strange aroma might be coming out of N.Y., WA., CA., Alaska or Iowa.

Or OR, CA, WY, MT, AR, KS, Spain?
Everyone is interested in Cooper & Eagles!

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Do they share the sitting duties? I couldn't tell but in one video of the hatches it looked like one left and the other took over..but I guess it could have been the editing?

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yes they do. One or the other is always
on the chicks or tending them. If both are there one
tends the chicks while the other sits off to the side
and they trade places at least once a day. Barely
a day goes by without one or the other taking off
and bringing back food. When one leaves they may
be gone for quite a long time before returning. I
havent picked up a solid pattern yet except food
always shows up within 48 hours of the last time.

Sometimes you can hear the other one near by
(like right now chirping) but not showing up in the
camera. The stamina of these birds is impressive.

Seeing as we are off-topic ... when we lived upcountry I came home one day to find a "kwevoel" or grey loerie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Go-away-bird) hopping around on the lawn ...with 2 cats in close and keen attendance. The birds nested in a tree in our garden and I had hardly ever seen them on the ground, much less playing tag with the cats. I looked up at the nest... and there was the other adult, clearly trying to teach the chick to fly, so I can only assume the one on the ground was trying to distract the cats from the chick. I've looked at birds in a different light since that day.

Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

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Do they share the sitting duties? I couldn't tell but in one video of the hatches it looked like one left and the other took over..but I guess it could have been the editing?

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yes they do. One or the other is always
on the chicks or tending them. If both are there one
tends the chicks while the other sits off to the side
and they trade places at least once a day. Barely
a day goes by without one or the other taking off
and bringing back food. When one leaves they may
be gone for quite a long time before returning. I
havent picked up a solid pattern yet except food
always shows up within 48 hours of the last time.

Sometimes you can hear the other one near by
(like right now chirping) but not showing up in the
camera. The stamina of these birds is impressive.

Seeing as we are off-topic ... when we lived upcountry I came home one day to find a "kwevoel" or grey loerie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Go-away-bird) hopping around on the lawn ...with 2 cats in close and keen attendance. The birds nested in a tree in our garden and I had hardly ever seen them on the ground, much less playing tag with the cats. I looked up at the nest... and there was the other adult, clearly trying to teach the chick to fly, so I can only assume the one on the ground was trying to distract the cats from the chick. I've looked at birds in a different light since that day.

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Bald Eagles regularly appear in the northern reaches of Cooper County, especially in winter, as they follow the chum salmon runs. I saw a pair in February when I did a story on the Nisqually Delta Wildlife Refuge. Also, out here on the Deschutes River in WA.

I'll have to check out the Decorah, Iowa boids - everybody's talking about them - they're on the radio, too!

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Well as long as were talking raptors...in the mid 90s on our DZ in NorCal we found a Great Horned Owl chick that had been thrown from the nest or fell. My partner( not that kind of partner, DZO partner, not that there's anything wrong with that)raised it by hand...an awesome bird!
When it grew up he could call it during the day...I have video of it somewhere...he calling it and it flying through the trees and landing right next to us on a rock for a treat of chicken livers and a snake.
Snowy, the owls name, one evening after a bunch of tandem videos, flew up at dusk, landed on my camera helmet and was pissed I didn't have a treat so he stole the cloth that was covering my camera helmet.
Man, I have seen some cool shit and have video somewhere...

hangdiver

"Mans got to know his limitations"
Harry Callahan

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About the last Cooper post out here. Something is brewing! I can smell it all they way down here in the deep Ole South.
The strange aroma might be coming out of N.Y., WA., CA., Alaska or Iowa.

Or OR, CA, WY, MT, AR, KS, Spain?
Everyone is interested in Cooper & Eagles!



Sounds like JT is on the outs with Nuttall now. I am fed up with the FBI, JT and others - it is time to do something drastic.

After I got back from the Dr.s today - I just went out to the woods along the golf course where I used to walk our Sheltie and cried, but I had done a lot of that on the way home.

Then with my jewelry still on I helped the young man next door until 9:30 with a drain field he is putting in to keep his water off of me. We worked the last 2 hrs with flashlights - I wasn't doing any heavy work, just holding pipes and flashlights and moving the equipment every few feet.

I am not sure what I would have done had he not been working on that and allowed me to assist him. I have tried to stay busy doing things that needed to be done .

I had called the FBI and got accused of complaining to his boss. I don't know who his boss is - but, whatever I said I have said in this thread. Georger are you his boss?

I am starting all of this with "I" and I don't care. I am what matters right now and my quality of life. I do not know exactly who I have to go to go over the head of the FBI - but whatever it is I will do it. There is NO holding back at this time - I am tired of the games people play and the pretenses. I am tired of the spoofers and the wannabes and the liars and the curious. I want this to be over with and very very soon.

Why shouldn't I call the FBI man a mouthpiece. He told me somethings when I called after I got back from WA. Things that did not make sense. So I did what he said and was patience and called back again. That time he told me these things take time and then said things that did not make sense with the prior conversation...and hence why I called him a mouthpiece.

Now he is insulted by this. If the FBI can't be consistent in what they tell me how the hell can they solve this thing? I said I would never go public again - but, today I cnanged my mind after speaking to the agent.

All I can say is THERE IS NO stopping me now - and NO DAMMIT it won't be in this thread.
I am tried of protecting other people and worrying about them sueing me. I am tired of keeping secrets - because is might hurt someone else...or make me sound crazy. Hell, everyone here thinks I am crazy so what difference does it make if the world thinks I am crazy?Maybe I am.

Life is pretty miserable right now and NO one should have to be that miserable. I was always a happy person and just went mindlessly along with life - I guess that is why I was considered the 'good" wife. I just went along with things and if it things went wrong I thought it was something I had done wrong.

The only thing I have done wrong is trusting the FBI to ACTUALLY investigate Weber.
I trusted Himmelsback and Jerry - I trusted all of the wrong people. I actually thought there were people who really wanted to solve this case . Trust NO ONE and know that this case will only be solved if someone goes to the media with physical evidence.

I trusted the FBI, I trusted Jerry and I trusted certain other parties - who were supposedly interested in solving this. I am very uncomfortable right now and trying to figure out how I can do what I must do. I have to go to Coure d'alene and that is going to be difficult...not unless some of you know someone in Coure d alene who is willing to sit in the courthouse files and the newpapr and public records dept for hours going thur files.

There was a camp just North and East of Coure d alene and I need to know everything about that camp that was ever known.
I have a lot to do and little time to do it - right now traveling is out of the question - I need answwers and so I need to find out how I can get my plea public in that area (yea, I am ready to expose myself). There comes a time when you have do what you have to do even if you don't like it.

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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I have come some Great Truths regarding the Cooper case:

Like the Jack the Ripper case, it may never be solved for sure.

Somebody out there knows what happened, and they are still alive.

The only way to keep from going crazy is to present what you have and let historians, or future investigators do the rest.

In the lack of physical evidence actually linking anyone to the case with a 'smoking gun,' then it falls to circumstantial evidence and eyewitness testimony from reliable people.

At some point in the future, something that will solve the case will probably emerge.

It was definitely Kenny Christiansen. Okay, maybe not. (*laughs*) How the heck should I know?

The 40th anniversary at Ariel should be fun.

Anything else is theory or conjecture.

Oh, one more thing. Tina does not want to talk to Bruce Smith, or anyone else for that matter. And even if you COULD question her about the Cooper case, you may as well question your cat, because you will get the same answers. :)

I enjoy these reports from Delphi. How are the
other oracles and oraclettes? Keep it coming.

Will you be copywriting the Cooper investigation?

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Well, first Mr Teacher Guy, it's 'copyrighting'. Copy writing is another animal entirely.

Maybe Georger does indeed think what you have been doing to the Cooper investigation is copy writing it

Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

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Well, first Mr Teacher Guy, it's 'copyrighting'. Copy writing is another animal entirely.

Maybe Georger does indeed think what you have been doing to the Cooper investigation is copy writing it

Freudian isnt it. In order of failure, bringing
forth a Cooper candidate has to rank above
opening a restaurant which is somewhere close to
buying a lottery ticket. Its an enterprise full of huge
logical leaps ... which falls in a separate catagory
from misspelling werds? Blevins is quick to leap at
trivia ... which he insists can only be viewed one way,
his way.... Because none of us was there?

In a similar vein, is Blevins stocking hat on
backwards, in his avatar? That paradox should
keep Blevins, Decoded, and Comcast busy for at
least six years? With plenty of viewers of the archane
and impossible.

What has any of this to do with Cooper or KC ?
Blevins plainly says 'he doesnt care', but then he
keeps coming back, looking for trivia to remark
about, and caring. Nobody actually wants their lottery ticket to fail. Even Freud knew that!

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Let's get something straight here:
Publishers are in business to make money on the books they release.

Fact: Every book we've published costs us about $500 to produce. Except the Cooper book. That one cost nearly $11,000 in total expenses.

Fact: Every book we've released has made money, except one: The Cooper book.

We will NEVER get our money back on that one, and we know this. Just to break even will take years.

Fact: Would we ever do another book like the Cooper book, knowing what we do now? Not a chance in hell.

Fact: I could have accepted up to $5,000 for my appearance on History Channel, combined with the upcoming Comcast program. I refused the money. Ask yourself why I would be dumb enough to do this.

Answer: Because it was always about the truth, not the money. If I were looking for a quick cash-in, I would have taken these offers. There is no 'lottery' here. Just a big loss in the search for the truth, and to retain some credibility on television. If you take money on TV for these type of things, it hurts credibility. So I don't want to hear anything else about lotteries or money. The Cooper story is pretty old. No one will ever get rich from it, trust me, I know.

Unless, of course, they hold out their hand for a check for TV appearances...

Uh, I didnt say one word about money. My reference to lottery was
a reference to "statistical odds" of betting vs winning.

You seem to equate losing your money with truth?
That may be a very poor example. The very
opposite may be more true? Had you made money
that might correlate with people's perceptions of the
truth. But since no major media outlet jumped on
your book as "the solution to the DB Cooper case"
I guess the public did not rush to buy a piece of
history.

You could have done in a simple white paper what
turned out to be a media event. It was all their fault.
Obama can't decide who "who" is!

What would Cooper Anderson and Eliot Spitzer do
with this? imho, any real solution to the DB Cooper
case is going to involve real media people, answer
basic questions, and make sense. And you won't need a Juju board to figure it out!

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I have come some Great Truths regarding the Cooper case:

Like the Jack the Ripper case, it may never be solved for sure.

Somebody out there knows what happened, and they are still alive.

The only way to keep from going crazy is to present what you have and let historians, or future investigators do the rest.

In the lack of physical evidence actually linking anyone to the case with a 'smoking gun,' then it falls to circumstantial evidence and eyewitness testimony from reliable people.

At some point in the future, something that will solve the case will probably emerge.

It was definitely Kenny Christiansen. Okay, maybe not. (*laughs*) How the heck should I know?

The 40th anniversary at Ariel should be fun.

Anything else is theory or conjecture.

Oh, one more thing. Tina does not want to talk to Bruce Smith, or anyone else for that matter. And even if you COULD question her about the Cooper case, you may as well question your cat, because you will get the same answers. :)

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Do you really believe someone out knows what happened. I believe I am the only one who knows some of the things - and the others have already died. .

Hell, I am already crazy and I am trying to present what I have, but until others actually look it is just stuff. I have what I think is the "'smoking gun,"
but NO way to present it to the FBI or another person.

At some point in the future, something that will solve the case will probably emerge. (I have it).
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And even if you COULD question her about the Cooper case, you may as well question your cat, because you will get the same answers. :)

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Remember I did talk to her in 2003 - and I didn't know what I had - and I really need for her to see what I do have. It may be nothing - but it is worth a try. Barely have strength to get fhrough each day - and each day I say I am going to send her these things - but the days get shorther and shorter. Some days I don't even go out the mail box. It is an effort to go get grocery.

Short of a miracle I won't be in WA in Nov. Major Surgery coming up and if I survive I will spend several wks in a skilled care facility. I would do better if I could afford to hire someone to take care of me in my own home for 4 or 5 wks - just to take me to the grocery and help me with my meals. I already stumble because of my hip and knee - and now major abdominal surgery - I don't think I will make it. I do not yet know how extensive the surgery will be...as they have yet another test to run. There would also be another surgery about 6 months after this one - which would have to be done in another area. I don't think I can do it - I know I can't do it.

If I survive this one - there are other problems just around the corner and Tina is not getting any younger. As far as being able to ID Cooper - I do not think that is going tp happen, but there is something she might remember..but it is not the face of Cooper.

I just want her to see the Book and the picture of the little girl.
If it belongs to her - how did I get it?

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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'But since no major media outlet jumped on
your book as "the solution to the DB Cooper case"
I guess the public did not rush to buy a piece of
history...'

No one asked them to. However, I would count History Channel and Comcast Cable as 'major media'. But I never asked them for a single buck except for gas. You are WAY off base and know me not at all.

Never had to use a Juju board to present my case. It was done through living eywitness testimony, certified documents, circumstantial evidence, and pictures.

Which is a hell of a lot better than anyone here has presented lately, I might add.

and with that last statement you scored a point,
a big point, with me at least.

We can agree to disagree.

I have never accused you of being a liar - just
biased and forming conclusions I dont think your
'circumstantial' evidence entitles you to draw. You
disagree.

The world will not be moved off its axis in any event.
All this is is people with hypotheses, for the
mostpart.

We could go on all day Robert. I just dont see that
as productive. You have made your points and I
accept them. Time will tell.

Thanks,
G.

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Never had to use a Juju board to present my case. It was done through living eywitness testimony, certified documents, circumstantial evidence, and pictures.

Which is a hell of a lot better than anyone here has presented lately, I might add.

I do not have your writing skills, but I think I have presented a pretty damn good case regarding Duane Weber. Because of his past life finding people who knew him prior to 1971 was very difficult. I found the ex-wife and 2 of her children. I talked to prior bosses. These are things the FBI did NOT do for me. I talked to his brother and his sister and I have NO evidence the FBI did so? The FBI provided me with NOTHING.

Yet, I continue to provide them with things - but they turn a deaf ear. I had all the same things you did - I had actual tax records and work records, but the FBI didn't check any of it. I did what I could, but I didn't have the luxury of traveling to see these people and make recordings and do formal interviews.

KC had hazel eyes - Duane Weber had dark piercing brown eyes. Duane Weber used to say "I have something Famous named after me". He never told me what it was. Duane Weber confessed to the crime. Duane Weber had the profile. Therefore I do NOT think that what you presented was a HELL of a LOT better than anyone else.

Also NOTE that I did not go public until I waited on the FBI to do its job for almost 5 yrs and probably would NOT have gone public if the FBI had NOT lied to me. Why did the FBI lie about Weber's past?

Do you believe that FBI agents always tell the truth and they have no motives? Well The Bonanno Organized Crime Family has proven that one FBI agent was crooked.

After 3 day on the stand in Brooklyn, Joseph Massion told about 25 yrs of murder, racketeering and other crimes. He testified a crooked FBI agent tipped off the the mob in the early 1980's that Massion and other were about to be rounded up. These tips allowed he and his buddies to stay ahead of the law and go into hiding for more than two yrs.

Now do you believe ALL FBI agents tell the truth? Well, I know they don't!

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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Why did the FBI lie about Weber's past?

My opinion Jo is that any FBI inaccuracies about Duane were errors not deliberate lies told to cover up the truth.

The FBI really wants to solve Norjack. It would give them a perfect record on skyjackings. Ckrt would be a rock star if he was instrumental in IDing DBC.

If you presented convincing unambiguous probative evidence that Duane was involved in Norjack you would get rapt FBI attention. They ignore you because you fail to do this, not because they are involved in some massive conspiracy to hide the truth. That's my opinion.

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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Why did the FBI lie about Weber's past?

My opinion Jo is that any FBI inaccuracies about Duane were errors not deliberate lies told to cover up the truth.

The FBI really wants to solve Norjack. It would give them a perfect record on skyjackings. Ckrt would be a rock star if he was instrumental in IDing DBC.

If you presented convincing unambiguous probative evidence that Duane was involved in Norjack you would get rapt FBI attention. They ignore you because you fail to do this, not because they are involved in some massive conspiracy to hide the truth. That's my opinion.

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So what do I have to do to do that? Without their help I cannot confront the man who found the wallet I was unaware of until he found it in the van. If there was something else in that wallet such as some of the 20's I can't offer him amesty from prosecution.

I have never discounted the possiblity there was cash in that wallet. He would not have known the signifcance of it any more than I knew the significance of the 20 dollar bill I found in the bank we called Symba. This was way before I knew who Dan Cooper was.,,and I didn't want to write a check so I opened the bank. It had all coins except for a well worn folded up 20 dollar bill - there was a name written on it in red ink. I don't tell this story because everyone would accuse me of making it up or call me a liar (something I have never been).

I have told the FBI about the book, but I never get past the mouthpiece nor have I ever been able to talk to the agent of record. This mouthpiece said I had written his boss - but, I don't know who his boss is. I did send an email to the agent of record, but never knew if he really got it. I mailed him a package.

My reference to "mouthpiece" is a man who takes the calls at the main FBI office in Seattle - it was NOT meant to be insulting and only my verbage to explain who he was. I have made the comment before about never getting past the mouthpiece (receptionist or secretary or what every he is - he told me he was an FBI agent), but he was not assigned to the case. So what is he? I don't know and that is why I called him the mouthpiece...I never knew if what I had to say was getting to the agent.

Larry Carr has "NO" jurisdiction on the case at all and has to get permission to see the file.

Tom Kaye is no where to be found. Evidently he was never able to find any relevance to the pollen that was found on the tie or the money (I don't remember which item they found this pollen on).

Carr only requested the case because he intended to use it to make a name for himself. Carr is the one who brought Tom Kaye onboard - see how long that lasted!

I spoke with Nuttall this morning. He had been told the same thing I was told about Jerry being banned from the Ariel Tavern. George and his partner got bamboozeled by Jerry just like I did.

In the last 20 yrs advances regarding possible suspects have been hindered by Jerry's interactions and his proclaimed knowledge of the crime. His participation in this thread was evidence of what I have stated and his interactions with me from 1996 until the present are evidence of this. I can speak for no one else, but myself.

Many of you here have been naysayers and some just talk, but only a few of us have put our money where our mouth was. Things I don't tell in this thread and have not been public with is the extensive research that has cost me and others a lot of money and a lot of time. Those of us who have proceeded cautiously - have now made a break through.

Those who know do not go public with information that has been hard to come. I had information NO ONE else had for yrs and only recently used that information to my advantage without violating my personal code of ethics regarding keeping secrets. This meant giving up what I exclusively knew, but I knew I would not be around to finish the task that was thrust upon me in 1995.

I don't mean to tease, but I am letting you guys know that WE have NOT been sitting idle. There was just me and then there were 3 and then 4 and now there are 7....and none of them are FBI. We are a TEAM now - all of us. Financial gain is not the name of the GAME...at least not for me and a couple of others...It is gratification and satisfaction in knowing we gave ALL there was to give.

Oh and I can't forget the other 4 - that makes 11 of us! The Seattle FBI may NO longer be a part of this.

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"Tom Kaye is no where to be found. Evidently he was never able to find any relevance to the pollen that was found on the tie or the money (I don't remember which item they found this pollen on)."

Jo... you don't know what you are talking about. THAT'S why you can't get anyone's help... they don't want to be associated with someone who constantly "shoots from the hip".

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