skyjack71 0 #23826 July 13, 2011 QuoteBlevins writes: I think it's time to take another break from the DZ. Mr. Blevins, You'll be back tomorrow (which is probably today). At least that is what happened the last three times you quit this list. Robert Nicholson Yea, Blevins will be back you can put a bet on that one. His posting about a phone call and the "threat" and to even suggest it is an active member of the thread or the DZ was totally uncalled for. He will stop at nothing to get media attentions for his book. Wonder what the "person" said that made him think it might be someone from the thread? I tried to point out "others" who might have a bone to pick with him. If I could hear the message - I might be able to pick up on the voice if it was anyone connected past or present to the thread who I have communicated with by phone. Such as - Jerry or Sluggo. Sluggo would never ever do anything like that...it is just not in his nature to behave that way. Another past poster does come to mind - because I have in the past receive some explosive email from him and we all know he was very agitated with everyone here...sssshhh, we dare not say his name, but we all know who he is. Jerry - why would he call anyone about Blevins book? No reason it would be Jerry, unless he has as you guys say has been pulling some silver. Georger would never ever resort to such behaviour. He would just speak his piece right here on the thread ... because he loves his privacy just as I do. There are trusted individuals who do have my phone number as there are with Georger....but, I expect most of those communications are handled thru PM's, because he doesn't want us to know who he REALLY is. He would NOT risk this privacy to make a phone threat. I got MAD at Sluggo and called him a couple of times about something leaving an angry message. Sluggo is NOT confrontal. He is a kind man who will deal with the problem in a short email, but not on the phone. It is my feelings it was someone Blevin's has had dealings with from his "interviews" OR it didn't really happen or it was not in regards to Cooper. Now, Robert99 watch what happens. Blevins cannot stand it and he will be back just as you said repeating more the same old stuff. Obsessions with Cooper are like Blow Outs - a difficult Fire to control. I should know - Cooper has controlled my life for many yrs. Cooper's spirit is grinning about all of this if there is really a place the soul or spirit goes after the human body dies. Our thoughts are energy - but does it die with the body? None of will know until the day we die and then we do not have a voice to say what has happened to us. The mystery of life and one most handle with their religion of choice. Maybe those of us who do NOT believe in one specific faith are all doomed to burn in the Fires of Hell till the end of time.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #23827 July 13, 2011 Quote How is the Burning Bush business there? So you did GET it! and I know where it came from. SssssHhhhh! keep it private...maybe it is JUST a ploy, but only time will tell.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #23828 July 13, 2011 I would gladly provide a company with any and all photos of Weber I have (most not made public), but the condition would be the authorities would have to use ALL of the composites known. 1.The Bing Crosby (I think I am the one who name it that). 2. The Ben Gazzara (commonly know as B). 3.The old Rose Composite never made public that I believe Sluggo dug up. How did he extricate those OLD composites from the FBI as they were the most damaging to the FBI's position on Weber? Those old unused composites show exactly what I tried to describe about Duane and photos I did NOT use in the beginning because I had never seen that composite until Sluggo put it on the thread..yrs after the FBI had made their decision they sent in a letter in 1998. When I first started my search all I had was the Bing Crosby composite - I didn't think it looked anything like Duane. The Ben Gazarra Composite I never saw until the FBI sent it to me AFTER they sent the letter in 1998 saying they did not believe Duane was Cooper.. All I had to go on was the things he showed me and told me and what I had held in my hands. I had already met with the Forensic Artist and asked him to do a regression of Duane with the photos I had of him as a much older man because I did NOT have any pictures of Duane - prior to 1976. We only had the Bing Crosby composite at that time. It took a heavy hit on my savings - but I had to do it. I will NEVER forget the day the Ben Gazarra composite duo arrived in the mail. My knees went out from under me and I collapsed in my yard. A few months later Duane's former wife mailed me the picture made in 1970 of Duane standing in a brown suit. I contacted the artist again for the third time. He met me at the Burger King on Nine Mile Rd....and as soon as he saw the Gazzara composite and reviewed the picture of Duane in the brown suit made in 1970 - there was NO doubt in his mind that Duane Weber was D.B.Cooper. He told me this before seeing the Gazzara Composite and before seeing the 1970 brown suit shot the resemblance was very strong. His reaction on the DAY he viewed the 1970 Brown Suit photo along with the Gazzara composites was an unequivocal...response and the same given to Doug by an FBI artist. "You can't get any Closer than that" The the FBI artist also states the strong resemblance verbally to Pasternac in an approx 2 hour interview along with a new detail. Since we had NOT seen the unused Rose composite this was NOT addressed in his article. I had NOT seen the Rose Composite until it was posted on this thread...and then I knew beyond a thread of a doubt - Duane Weber was Dan Cooper. I do NOT want to make my private photos public - but will do so to a facility that does this kind of work with a confidentiality agreement. I will put Duane up against any suspect the FBI has ever investigated. I could soar with the eagles or be but a mocking bird chased by the mighty Hawk as his prey.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sailshaw 0 #23829 July 13, 2011 Jo: Speaking of pictures, take a look at Sheridan Peterson in the Lake Washington High School year books of 1963, 1964, and 1965 attached. It is interesting what is said below the photos too! Bob inline attachment_Sheridan 1963.gif, inline attachment_Sheridan 1964.gif, inline attachment_Sheridan 1965.gif Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sailshaw 0 #23830 July 13, 2011 Sorry to all. I have not learned how to make attachments to my remarks. My first try seems not to have worked. Any suggestions? Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #23831 July 14, 2011 QuoteSorry to all. I have not learned how to make attachments to my remarks. My first try seems not to have worked. Any suggestions? Bob Back several pages ago - Bruce posted most of the photos from the album so you don't really need to post them again unless you want to. You have to keep the size small and if you scanned it at a high jpg you will have to go to your photo program and reduce it. Took me FOREVER to learn how to do this on the thread and I still have problems - at 70+ we just wing it. Someone on the thread will probably find the photos you are referring to and post them for you. I have seen all of the photos and there is a general look in some of them, but for the most part certain things just were not there - at least for me. I am not the most objective person to be answering your post - but trying. Besides Sheridan is still alive and should be able to speak for himself. It's my understanding from a past post the FBI did go see him and he willing provided DNA. I do not remember who posted it or what their source was. I have alway wonder if Sheridan Petersen was related to Richard Peterson - also with a similar background. Richard Petersen was known as Paperlegs and Duane claimed to have known Paperlegs (of course I didn't even know who he was talking about) and then he went to see this man up in Wy where I learned the man had moved to when he retired. I never forgot the discussion about Paperlegs nor the circumstances surrounding Duane's visit (alone) to the town Paperlegs was living in. When he got back he wanted to know if I had made any appointments because we had to leave early since there was a big storm coming in. We didn't get out in time and got caught in a white-out and deep snow. The last truck that came through (they closed the road) stopped because Duane immediately got on the CB telling them to watch for us and where we where off the road on a curve. One truck came flying by and he radioed back our location and then another truch passed us, but the next one which was the last truck let through was going to stop and pick us up. The man decided to chance getting us out and back on the road. We followed in his track all the way to Cheyenne. Duane kept telling him we were ok and we could still see him. The trucker couldn't see us and but he knew he couldn't stop or both the truck and our car would be stranded. Duane told me if we where NOT behind the trucker when he got to Cheyenne they would send someone back for us. I had never been so scared in my life - so how could I ever forget that venture. After Duane died in 1995 - I learn some more lessons about fear and in retrospect that memory pales to other memories I have experience along the road of life with Duane Weber (before and after his death). I remember being terrified of freezing to death or having frost bite and loosing toes or fingers. Duane handled this incident like he handled everything - very methodically and very calmly - careful NOT to get me worried. He obviously knew exactly what to do under these circumstances. He was cool, calm and collective except when he got MAD. The distortions he made with his face on the rare occasions he exploded I will never forget, but these did NOT happen until he was facing the kidney machine and he knew it...the first rage I saw was in 1988, just before we moved to FL when he realized his life was finally winding down to the 5 yrs they had told him in 1970 or 1971. Less than 2 yrs later he started the kidney machine and after a while he mellowed out. The chemical imbalances according to a post Georger made caused the rages, but the Dr.s never explained this. Up until 1988 - I had never seen him out of control or really very angry. Then from May of 1988 until February of 1990 - he did well and then it was "Machine Time". The 2 months after going on the machine where hell, but I survived it and so did he. If my life was going to depend on a machine I would have been mean and nasty too and so would you - but, then comes acceptance. He was very brave right up until the end and NEVER complained. He was a very good patienct and all of the dialysis staff love him. Duane gave them all EXPENSIVE gifts that last yr. The Dr. did not want to accept the gift Duane gave him - a set of gold Cross pens...the Dr. tried to give them back to him. He tired to give me diamond earrings that Christmas and I refused to have my ears pierced and I don't know what he did with them or how he had the money to pay for them. I remember telling him to take them back and get his money back. He gave me a Sieko watch because I really needed one.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sailshaw 0 #23832 July 14, 2011 Jo: Thank you for your help as when we are over 75 things are much harder to understand. I did not know Bruce had posted the photos of Sheridan, but what I wanted to present to the forum is what was said under the photos. That may not have been posted by Bruce so I will just quote them here as I find them very interesting: 1) 1963 "B.A. University of Missouri. Sophomore and Junior English" 2) 1964 "has been a smoke jumper, a logger, a sandblaster, a technical writer for Boeing and a Marine. He now faces the most challenging career of his life: teaching English." 3) 1965 "Sheridan ... and Milton ... talk about the Repertory's interpretation of Hamlet. These friendly discussions are what lend life to a study of Shakespeare." From the Year Books of Lake Washington High School. Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BruceSmith 3 #23833 July 14, 2011 An interesting side note has arisen in the DB Cooper saga. On the eve of his bursting upon the national scene with his comprehensive tome, Geoff Gray's apartment has burned down. He emailed me today and said his apartment is a total loss, but his research files are okay, albeit a tad smokey. A great wake-up call to store our Cooper material in safe locations away from home and office. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 244 #23834 July 14, 2011 QuoteAn interesting side note has arisen in the DB Cooper saga. On the eve of his bursting upon the national scene with his comprehensive tome, Geoff Gray's apartment has burned down. He emailed me today and said his apartment is a total loss, but his research files are okay, albeit a tad smokey. A great wake-up call to store our Cooper material in safe locations away from home and office. Unreal. I left Geof a message. Assume others will also. Thanks for letting us know Bruce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert99 50 #23835 July 14, 2011 QuoteAn interesting side note has arisen in the DB Cooper saga. On the eve of his bursting upon the national scene with his comprehensive tome, Geoff Gray's apartment has burned down. He emailed me today and said his apartment is a total loss, but his research files are okay, albeit a tad smokey. A great wake-up call to store our Cooper material in safe locations away from home and office. Bruce, May I add some additional insights that I have learned within the past month based on personal experience with wildfires. The time to start preparing for an emergency evacuation is about three years before the need arises. Perhaps important paperwork could be scanned onto computer disks and those disks stored in safe deposit boxes. Don't expect to get the word about an emergency evacuation before the fire gets to you. Actually, it was the smoke and ash that got to me before any word about an evacuation. Thanks to a four lane divided highway on the other side of my rear property fence, the fire trucks were able to easily maneuver on the highway to keep the fire itself about 2 to 3 hundred feet from my house (and upwind at that). However, the fire did burn some parts of the highway median and in at least one case made it across the highway into a weeded area but was contained by the fire fighters. But no one on my side of the highway lost any property to my knowledge. The moral of this story is to plan ahead. When the smoke and fire starts is much to late. Robert Nicholson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orange1 0 #23836 July 14, 2011 Quote As for 'He Whose Name Shall Not Be Spoken': I agree with you. What total B.S. There is probably some very simple explanation vs the Apocalypse suggested. His original post used the "C-word" but then he deleted it, for some reason? How is the Burning Bush business there? Actually I was thinking of a she, but yes it can be applied more widely. And um sorry if i am doing the dumb blonde thing now but I do not get the burning bush allusion...Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orange1 0 #23837 July 14, 2011 Jo, who was talking about the "authorities"? The point I made was that this software is widely available. Anyone here could probably do it. Anyway doesn't matter which composite you use, I think Duane will be out of the running. Sure start with identified candidates but I and others do not think Cooper has been identified yet. There are millions of photos on the net to mine for a match .... Perhaps this is the way to narrow down a suspect list! Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #23838 July 14, 2011 Quote Quote As for 'He Whose Name Shall Not Be Spoken': I agree with you. What total B.S. There is probably some very simple explanation vs the Apocalypse suggested. His original post used the "C-word" but then he deleted it, for some reason? How is the Burning Bush business there? Actually I was thinking of a she, but yes it can be applied more widely. And um sorry if i am doing the dumb blonde thing now but I do not get the burning bush allusion... Since I am the female here besides you - I assume you THINK I would stoop so low as to make a poison pen Call. NO WAY. I will pay for the call trace, if that will please you and anyone else who thinks I made that call. If the person mentioned the DZ then that leaves 2 other suspects. [RED]Note that Blevins stated the call was MALE![/RED]Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #23839 July 14, 2011 Quote . The caller did NOT make any threats. Mostly, he rambled on about how I was using the Adventures in Literature event to push a DB Cooper suspect, that I trashed the Seattle FBI a lot, and that I had pissed off a few higher-level investigators in the case. Stuff like that. Yada yada yada. Whomever made the call certainly had personal issues. Connie described the message as coming from 'a crazy person'. I don't know about that, but everyone involved in the Festival who heard the message was pissed off, and so was I. And sure, I had some initial suspicions on who made the call. The caller mentioned Dropzone several times. After thinking about it for a day, I decided that if no more if these calls came in, I would forget the whole thing. But if another one came in, I would have the phone number that Connie gave me run to find out whom it belonged to, and then make that information public. I understand that there is a lot of emotion involved in the Cooper case and that people can get carried away. It doesn't take a Brainiac to figure out I have absolutely NO motivation to make this up about the call, since anyone could contact the Festival office (Website: www.auburngoodoldays.com) and check it out. And if I were silly enough to promote a story like that, then they probably WOULD drop me from the program. Would you please GO AHEAD and do the TRACE othewise everyone thinks it is ME.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orange1 0 #23840 July 14, 2011 Quote Since I am the female here besides you - I assume you THINK I would stoop so low as to make a poison pen Call. NO WAY. I will pay for the call trace, if that will please you and anyone else who thinks I made that call. If the person mentioned the DZ then that leaves 2 other suspects. Jo, perhaps you should actually read what you think you are responding to. There was nothing about a call in the post I made. (I have no idea what call you are referring to anyway, either something discussed in the posts I missed while I was away, or mentioned by one of the two posters whose posts I currently generally don't read, or missed for some other reason.) (Edited to add: from the above post I have now deduced there was a call made to Blevins.) And actually there are other females here ... Amazon, Vicki. Though, admittedly, neither of them have complained about other people writing 'nasty' posts to them and then gone to write vitriolic posts to others when they feel like it. ...and the original post was clearly referring to more than one person anyway... ...but this is a great example of your leaps of logic leading to indefensible conclusions.Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #23841 July 14, 2011 Quote Quote An interesting side note has arisen in the DB Cooper saga. On the eve of his bursting upon the national scene with his comprehensive tome, Geoff Gray's apartment has burned down. He emailed me today and said his apartment is a total loss, but his research files are okay, albeit a tad smokey. A great wake-up call to store our Cooper material in safe locations away from home and office. Unreal. I left Geof a message. Assume others will also. Thanks for letting us know Bruce. Since I had been told this in confidence by Geoffrey and did NOT know if it was true - I decided to hint at it until it was Confirmed and if he put it in an email to Bruce Smith then it is confirmed. I have known for several days. Seems to have happend about 2 months ago and was according to what he said caused by defective fridge - that was his word for refrigerator. Go back and read the multiple post short and long I made for the last 4 days - it was a hard secret to keep.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #23842 July 14, 2011 Blevins stated: Quote The caller did NOT make any threats. Mostly, he rambled on about how I was using the Adventures in Literature event to push a DB Cooper suspect, that I trashed the Seattle FBI a lot, and that I had pissed off a few higher-level investigators in the case. Stuff like that. Yada yada yada. Whomever made the call certainly had personal issues. Jo Replies: I will agree with the caller about using the DZ to promote the book, but when he mentions pissing off a few higher-level investigators in the case - this gave me call to revisit some posts in my memory by a couple of the DZ posters who have been relative volitile with me by phone. One of our posters boasts about his relationship with the FBI as does one of the writers. One individual claimed I was IMPEDING the investigation and repeatedly called me a liar and writer of fiction. Another of the poster had a lot of really off the wall stuff about Duane and the FBI...He was not very happy about my position regarding his position and made that known on the thread and in private e-mails and on my regular email address. I saved them all. ======================= Blevins States: Quote After thinking about it for a day, I decided that if no more if these calls came in, I would forget the whole thing. But if another one came in, I would have the phone number that Connie gave me run to find out whom it belonged to, and then make that information public. Jo Replys: Please run the phone number - Please I don't want people to think that about me. There is another line of thought. If you don't check the number then HOW could you prove the call was ever made or that it was not someone you put up to it for publicity purposes? Just a thought - because there will be people who will think that is what you did, because NOT everyone agrees with your position on KC. ================== Blevins States: QuoteIt doesn't take a Brainiac to figure out I have absolutely NO motivation to make this up about the call, since anyone could contact the Festival office (Website: www.auburngoodoldays.com) and check it out. And if I were silly enough to promote a story like that, then they probably WOULD drop me from the program. Jo State: Please GO AHEAD and do the TRACE othewise everyone thinks it is ME or that you are writing a story of "FICTION" as one of the DZ posters has stated many times over and using this CALL as a publicity media for your book. I sent you my area code and the last 2 digits of my cell and private number - PLEASE compare them with the number and I strongly advise you to do the TRACE - otherwise you will go down as a HOAX for publicity purposes. I know that your caller was one of 3 persons - but I personally can narrow it down to 1 person just by process of elimination. Play me a few words from the tape - if I have ever talked to that person I can identify his voice. I AM that good.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #23843 July 14, 2011 Quote Jo, perhaps you should actually read what you think you are responding to. There was nothing about a call in the post I made. (I have no idea what call you are referring to anyway, either something discussed in the posts I missed while I was away, or mentioned by one of the two posters whose posts I currently generally don't read, or missed for some other reason.) (Edited to add: from the above post I have now deduced there was a call made to Blevins.)Quote Jo Replies: At least you made an edit to warrant I had reason to think you implied I was the one to make that torrid phone call. Maybe you better read ALL the posts before you speak up. Like you didn't catch the BURNING BUSH. There were multiple posts made by me about FIRE and igniting - but, I did NOT want to be the one to let the CAT out of the Burning BARN. Bless his pea pickin heart! Ole Georger was the only one who GOT IT. Sort of felt like he had his hand on my shoulder saying "GOOD GIRL" you aren't a dumb Blonde after all. I know Amazon & Vicki are female, but as far as the nature of the post - neither of them would be suspect. I will quote you here: "and the original post was clearly referring to more than one person anyway..." I will accept that as a RELUCTANT apology - something you seldom do.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 244 #23844 July 14, 2011 Its all in your imagination, Jo. I have not the faintest idea what your tabloid mind has conjured up now - and dont want any part of it. If nothing else this saga seems to be sorting out just who and what people are around here. Not to mention their credibility. Some guy makes a call to some villege Fun Days to voice an objection about the program (as described here by Blevins endlessly), and immediately tabloid minds here jump to the idea of a poison pen underhanded letter? Get a grip folks and morons! Find something real to inflame into a War! ? Blevins says the caller made no threats, simply voiced opinions (which under the Comstitution of the United States anyone has the right to do!) ... and now Jo Weber, famous inflammer, wants to know all about it and make it more than it probably ever was or Blevins even says it was ? Go ahead Jo. You have no credibility to lose and nothing better to do. THAT'S MY OPINION !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjack71 0 #23845 July 14, 2011 Quote Jo, who was talking about the "authorities"? The point I made was that this software is widely available. Anyone here could probably do it. Anyway doesn't matter which composite you use, I think Duane will be out of the running. Sure start with identified candidates but I and others do not think Cooper has been identified yet. There are millions of photos on the net to mine for a match .... Perhaps this is the way to narrow down a suspect list! I would be happy just to have the best suspects run against Duane Weber - and I mean using multiple pictures of all of the suspects or at least as many as can be found. Maybe there is a TV program or the FBI would be willing to do this - would make a good 40th BASH.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 244 #23846 July 14, 2011 Maybe you better read ALL the posts before you speak up. Like you didn't catch the BURNING BUSH. There were multiple posts made by me about FIRE and igniting - but, I did NOT want to be the one to let the CAT out of the Burning BARN. Bless his pea pickin heart! Ole Georger was the only one who GOT IT. Sort of felt like he had his hand on my shoulder saying "GOOD GIRL" you aren't a dumb Blonde after all. My reference to BURNING BUSH had absolutely NOTHING to do with Geof Gray - I didnt even know until last night Geof;s apartment? (building?) had burned ... Bruce's post. My reference to BURNING BUSH was Biblical referring to voices and apparitions of a metaphysical kind which some people attach to physical events ... and \ read more into common events than there is! So... reading here last night about Geof's plight I picked up the phone and called Geof and volunteered to help him in any way I can, and I suggest others do likewise... if they are so inclined. That is all there is to this. In a like manner, I think Blevins is reading far more into his call than there probably is. Like Jo, Blevins has a bad habit of reading more into things than there usually is, if his posts here to Dropzone mean anything. In like manner: I have tried IN VAIN to push the idea that the Cooper Hijacking was NOT some special event involving some special individual but merely a selective event in one guy's life that encompassed (unfortunately) a lot of other people's lives, and then became a national folk tale. But my theory has never found much traction here, owing to the fact a few always dominate everything here and set the agenda which more often than not tends toward the sensational. Im sorry I cant offer more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #23847 July 14, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpoQFClkqa4&feature=related It looks to me like a Nylon ripstop C 9 military canopy form the 50s or 60s, but the people who posted the video said it was silk. It blew up on opening, resulting in a cutaway. I do not think the alternating orange and white panel round military bailout canopies were EVER made of silk. I think they were all Nylon. Anybody else have an opinion? All the silk canopies I have seen were mono color white. The white Amboy canopy could have been silk or Nylon twill, I can't tell from the photo. Nylon twill weave is often mischaracterized as silk by people who think all old canopies that were not ripstop weave must be silk. I dont think the buried Amboy canopy was Cooper's, but I am surprised by the lack of follow up to determine its source. The serial number is readable and I'll bet that it could be traced. Perhpas it was a discarded car cover, but if it was a working chute deliberately buried that raises a lot of questions. I hope Bruce gets to interview Cossey. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjack71 0 #23848 July 14, 2011 I have to say it was Highly Co-incidental. You had a Smiley accompaning the Burning Bush. I had told someone to go back and read my last few post and note the KEY words. I guess NO one got it. Geeze, I am a lousy writer, but this is the only place I "write" but it is not writing it is throwing things around and beating my brains out to get someone - anyone to listen. I am that voice in the BOX and Time is running out. As for Blevins even hinting it was one of us and then of course certain individual will automatically point fingers at yours truely. I have other suspects and now have added a 4th to the list - 5 including myself.. 1. Blevins himself - to promote the book. 2. Someone who has searched the case for many yrs - who has been know to say the very things - Blevins hinted at in his posting of the call. 3. Another someone who we all know, but do not mention the name. His postings about all of this were very volitile. 4. Perhaps even a competitive writer who feels he has something to gain by being accused of calling the sponsors of the event during which Blevins is going to promote his book. 5. I have to add myself - but NOT QUILTY. It was obvious Blevins had his own suspects - which included Georger, but I definitely closed that avenue for him. Georger like myself likes his privacy and we lead private lives - being active in all of this "crap", but stating our cause and why we think what we think. Each of us with our own reasons. Oh! I guess I need to add 2 more suspects. Both of which are also writers of competive books about Cooper. No need to post the names - we know them both, but neither post in the thread...so I guess that might rule them out, since Blevins stated the caller referred to the DZ. One of these writers reads the thread and the other does not use a computer. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjack71 0 #23849 July 14, 2011 Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpoQFClkqa4&feature=related It looks to me like a Nylon ripstop C 9 military canopy form the 50s or 60s, but the people who posted the video said it was silk. It blew up on opening, resulting in a cutaway. I do not think the alternating orange and white panel round military bailout canopies were EVER made of silk. I think they were all Nylon. Anybody else have an opinion? All the silk canopies I have seen were mono color white. The white Amboy canopy could have been silk or Nylon twill, I can't tell from the photo. Nylon twill weave is often mischaracterized as silk by people who think all old canopies that were not ripstop weave must be silk. I dont think the buried Amboy canopy was Cooper's, but I am surprised by the lack of follow up to determine its source. The serial number is readable and I'll bet that it could be traced. Perhpas it was a discarded car cover, but if it was a working chute deliberately buried that raises a lot of questions. I hope Bruce gets to interview Cossey. 377 Our diplomatic 377 trying to turn the current conversation back in time. Ok, I agree the FBI screwed that one up also - the FBI dropped the ball again. They did NOT do what should have been done regarding the Amboy chute! The FBI should have curbed that one when it happened....as you said it had a readable serial number. They had a chance to end all of the speculation at that time and did nothing. Not enough knowledge or focus on the assigned cases or subject matters.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Orange1 0 #23850 July 14, 2011 QuoteJo Replies: At least you made an edit to warrant I had reason to think you implied I was the one to make that torrid phone call. ... I will accept that as a RELUCTANT apology - something you seldom do. No, Jo. The edit was to clarify I figured out what the phone call was. Again: if you had bothered to read (or comprehend) what you were responding to you would know that I was not implying anything about a phone call. And another leap of logic: I have nothing to apologise to you for. Perhaps you should rather consider apologising to me for going off on a rant accusing me of accusing you of something...just because you didn't read a post properly. (Which also means you can keep your lectures on reading posts and incorrect allusions to burning bushes to yourself.) And you still do not seem to understand my aims with the photo idea, but I can't be bothered to explain it again.Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 949 950 951 952 953 954 955 956 957 958 959 Next Page 954 of 2568 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 50 50
georger 244 #23844 July 14, 2011 Its all in your imagination, Jo. I have not the faintest idea what your tabloid mind has conjured up now - and dont want any part of it. If nothing else this saga seems to be sorting out just who and what people are around here. Not to mention their credibility. Some guy makes a call to some villege Fun Days to voice an objection about the program (as described here by Blevins endlessly), and immediately tabloid minds here jump to the idea of a poison pen underhanded letter? Get a grip folks and morons! Find something real to inflame into a War! ? Blevins says the caller made no threats, simply voiced opinions (which under the Comstitution of the United States anyone has the right to do!) ... and now Jo Weber, famous inflammer, wants to know all about it and make it more than it probably ever was or Blevins even says it was ? Go ahead Jo. You have no credibility to lose and nothing better to do. THAT'S MY OPINION !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #23845 July 14, 2011 Quote Jo, who was talking about the "authorities"? The point I made was that this software is widely available. Anyone here could probably do it. Anyway doesn't matter which composite you use, I think Duane will be out of the running. Sure start with identified candidates but I and others do not think Cooper has been identified yet. There are millions of photos on the net to mine for a match .... Perhaps this is the way to narrow down a suspect list! I would be happy just to have the best suspects run against Duane Weber - and I mean using multiple pictures of all of the suspects or at least as many as can be found. Maybe there is a TV program or the FBI would be willing to do this - would make a good 40th BASH.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 244 #23846 July 14, 2011 Maybe you better read ALL the posts before you speak up. Like you didn't catch the BURNING BUSH. There were multiple posts made by me about FIRE and igniting - but, I did NOT want to be the one to let the CAT out of the Burning BARN. Bless his pea pickin heart! Ole Georger was the only one who GOT IT. Sort of felt like he had his hand on my shoulder saying "GOOD GIRL" you aren't a dumb Blonde after all. My reference to BURNING BUSH had absolutely NOTHING to do with Geof Gray - I didnt even know until last night Geof;s apartment? (building?) had burned ... Bruce's post. My reference to BURNING BUSH was Biblical referring to voices and apparitions of a metaphysical kind which some people attach to physical events ... and \ read more into common events than there is! So... reading here last night about Geof's plight I picked up the phone and called Geof and volunteered to help him in any way I can, and I suggest others do likewise... if they are so inclined. That is all there is to this. In a like manner, I think Blevins is reading far more into his call than there probably is. Like Jo, Blevins has a bad habit of reading more into things than there usually is, if his posts here to Dropzone mean anything. In like manner: I have tried IN VAIN to push the idea that the Cooper Hijacking was NOT some special event involving some special individual but merely a selective event in one guy's life that encompassed (unfortunately) a lot of other people's lives, and then became a national folk tale. But my theory has never found much traction here, owing to the fact a few always dominate everything here and set the agenda which more often than not tends toward the sensational. Im sorry I cant offer more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #23847 July 14, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpoQFClkqa4&feature=related It looks to me like a Nylon ripstop C 9 military canopy form the 50s or 60s, but the people who posted the video said it was silk. It blew up on opening, resulting in a cutaway. I do not think the alternating orange and white panel round military bailout canopies were EVER made of silk. I think they were all Nylon. Anybody else have an opinion? All the silk canopies I have seen were mono color white. The white Amboy canopy could have been silk or Nylon twill, I can't tell from the photo. Nylon twill weave is often mischaracterized as silk by people who think all old canopies that were not ripstop weave must be silk. I dont think the buried Amboy canopy was Cooper's, but I am surprised by the lack of follow up to determine its source. The serial number is readable and I'll bet that it could be traced. Perhpas it was a discarded car cover, but if it was a working chute deliberately buried that raises a lot of questions. I hope Bruce gets to interview Cossey. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #23848 July 14, 2011 I have to say it was Highly Co-incidental. You had a Smiley accompaning the Burning Bush. I had told someone to go back and read my last few post and note the KEY words. I guess NO one got it. Geeze, I am a lousy writer, but this is the only place I "write" but it is not writing it is throwing things around and beating my brains out to get someone - anyone to listen. I am that voice in the BOX and Time is running out. As for Blevins even hinting it was one of us and then of course certain individual will automatically point fingers at yours truely. I have other suspects and now have added a 4th to the list - 5 including myself.. 1. Blevins himself - to promote the book. 2. Someone who has searched the case for many yrs - who has been know to say the very things - Blevins hinted at in his posting of the call. 3. Another someone who we all know, but do not mention the name. His postings about all of this were very volitile. 4. Perhaps even a competitive writer who feels he has something to gain by being accused of calling the sponsors of the event during which Blevins is going to promote his book. 5. I have to add myself - but NOT QUILTY. It was obvious Blevins had his own suspects - which included Georger, but I definitely closed that avenue for him. Georger like myself likes his privacy and we lead private lives - being active in all of this "crap", but stating our cause and why we think what we think. Each of us with our own reasons. Oh! I guess I need to add 2 more suspects. Both of which are also writers of competive books about Cooper. No need to post the names - we know them both, but neither post in the thread...so I guess that might rule them out, since Blevins stated the caller referred to the DZ. One of these writers reads the thread and the other does not use a computer. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #23849 July 14, 2011 Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpoQFClkqa4&feature=related It looks to me like a Nylon ripstop C 9 military canopy form the 50s or 60s, but the people who posted the video said it was silk. It blew up on opening, resulting in a cutaway. I do not think the alternating orange and white panel round military bailout canopies were EVER made of silk. I think they were all Nylon. Anybody else have an opinion? All the silk canopies I have seen were mono color white. The white Amboy canopy could have been silk or Nylon twill, I can't tell from the photo. Nylon twill weave is often mischaracterized as silk by people who think all old canopies that were not ripstop weave must be silk. I dont think the buried Amboy canopy was Cooper's, but I am surprised by the lack of follow up to determine its source. The serial number is readable and I'll bet that it could be traced. Perhpas it was a discarded car cover, but if it was a working chute deliberately buried that raises a lot of questions. I hope Bruce gets to interview Cossey. 377 Our diplomatic 377 trying to turn the current conversation back in time. Ok, I agree the FBI screwed that one up also - the FBI dropped the ball again. They did NOT do what should have been done regarding the Amboy chute! The FBI should have curbed that one when it happened....as you said it had a readable serial number. They had a chance to end all of the speculation at that time and did nothing. Not enough knowledge or focus on the assigned cases or subject matters.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orange1 0 #23850 July 14, 2011 QuoteJo Replies: At least you made an edit to warrant I had reason to think you implied I was the one to make that torrid phone call. ... I will accept that as a RELUCTANT apology - something you seldom do. No, Jo. The edit was to clarify I figured out what the phone call was. Again: if you had bothered to read (or comprehend) what you were responding to you would know that I was not implying anything about a phone call. And another leap of logic: I have nothing to apologise to you for. Perhaps you should rather consider apologising to me for going off on a rant accusing me of accusing you of something...just because you didn't read a post properly. (Which also means you can keep your lectures on reading posts and incorrect allusions to burning bushes to yourself.) And you still do not seem to understand my aims with the photo idea, but I can't be bothered to explain it again.Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
