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mansell 0
I haven't been following this thread since it's inception..so I have to ask...
Why is Tina so unwilling to discuss anything DB Cooper?
Is she just over it and feels she has said everything she knows?
I see a lot of people talking about her being fragile and such so I'm just curious what has happened to make her this way involving the case.
Does ANYONE that was onboard the plane actively discuss the case? the pilots? other attendants?
Why is Tina so unwilling to discuss anything DB Cooper?
Is she just over it and feels she has said everything she knows?
I see a lot of people talking about her being fragile and such so I'm just curious what has happened to make her this way involving the case.
Does ANYONE that was onboard the plane actively discuss the case? the pilots? other attendants?
pek771 0
Robert99, thanks very much for the answer.
Another question: how do rubber bands last for so many years in water?
I have always found this DB Cooper subject fascinating from the day it happened. I also believe he did not jump over any mountainous terrain. Your aero analysis supports that.
Man, that yellow Cub sure is nice!
Another question: how do rubber bands last for so many years in water?
I have always found this DB Cooper subject fascinating from the day it happened. I also believe he did not jump over any mountainous terrain. Your aero analysis supports that.
Man, that yellow Cub sure is nice!
sailshaw 0
Johnnyringo:
Christensen has two facts about him that completely eliminate him as being DB Cooper. First, he is too short at 5ft 8in rather than around 6ft for DB. That alone should be enough to count him out. However, the second fact is his skin color is white and not the olive color of DB Cooper. Those two facts and the DNA negative match, make him totaly not a candidate.
Bob
Christensen has two facts about him that completely eliminate him as being DB Cooper. First, he is too short at 5ft 8in rather than around 6ft for DB. That alone should be enough to count him out. However, the second fact is his skin color is white and not the olive color of DB Cooper. Those two facts and the DNA negative match, make him totaly not a candidate.
Bob
Robert99 50
Robert99, thanks very much for the answer.
Another question: how do rubber bands last for so many years in water?
I have always found this DB Cooper subject fascinating from the day it happened. I also believe he did not jump over any mountainous terrain. Your aero analysis supports that.
Man, that yellow Cub sure is nice!
Pek771, Thanks again. That Cub was completely overhauled and recovered just before it was donated to the museum about 1975. The donor lived in the Houston area if I remember correctly.
My last flight in it was a two hour solo on Christmas Eve 1950. The engine in it now is a Continental but it had a Lycoming when I flew it. The cause of the engine failure was that the idle mixture control was out of adjustment and the flight instructor and I were apparently the only two people at that airport who weren't aware of that. We were to practice spins and when I completely closed the throttle during the spin entry the engine quit and the prop stopped. The instructor took over and put the plane into a vertical dive, the prop did rotate a few times but the engine would not catch. Hence, the landing in a pasture with no damage. Actually, it was an educational experience for me.
Georger has checked into the rubber bank question, if I remember correctly, and maybe he will elaborate on that. But based on my personal experience, I have had similar rubber bands that didn't last 8 years in my closet. And my guess is that the rubber bands and the money were not in the water for anywhere close to 8 years, maybe a few months.
Farflung 0
I read a little article today from a person who was a PAX on Flight 305 and it reminded me of the Tricloptic viewpoint I have on things. Yes, I realize this condition is unique to me thus making me a freak.
The first vision existing in my mind’s eye and what I expect when it comes to air travel priced in the mid two digit range. Being greeted by a pair of smartly dressed aircrew would be nice before ‘Indonesian Tina’ guides me to my Business Class Jacuzzi.
This is still a Part 135 operation so I would have to endure the usual FAA required safety briefing. The Flight Attendant demonstrating how to remove her uniform in case of fire, where to attach the nitrous mask, use restraint equipment and of course a reminder of the available punishments for various activities in the lavatory. I know, we’ve all been there a thousand times so let’s move on.
Next is the Hollywood treatment or media saturation that comes from a lifetime of photosynthesizing commercial broadcasts in my living room. Say something enough and it becomes fact at some point. Cooper wanting that gear down as proof he knew aircraft. Well all the photos I’ve seen of DC-9s and 727s with Cooper minions diving out the back have the gear up. Same for military and skydiving operations except for those who fly things made by Shorts or Cessna.
For some reason we want to believe there is high drama in situations where there may be very little, if any. Well it looks like I picked a bad week to stop mainlining heroin and reading about DB Cooper.
Here’s that article that represents the ‘third view’:
http://livermore.patch.com/articles/livermore-man-recaps-encounter-with-db-cooper
The first vision existing in my mind’s eye and what I expect when it comes to air travel priced in the mid two digit range. Being greeted by a pair of smartly dressed aircrew would be nice before ‘Indonesian Tina’ guides me to my Business Class Jacuzzi.
This is still a Part 135 operation so I would have to endure the usual FAA required safety briefing. The Flight Attendant demonstrating how to remove her uniform in case of fire, where to attach the nitrous mask, use restraint equipment and of course a reminder of the available punishments for various activities in the lavatory. I know, we’ve all been there a thousand times so let’s move on.
Next is the Hollywood treatment or media saturation that comes from a lifetime of photosynthesizing commercial broadcasts in my living room. Say something enough and it becomes fact at some point. Cooper wanting that gear down as proof he knew aircraft. Well all the photos I’ve seen of DC-9s and 727s with Cooper minions diving out the back have the gear up. Same for military and skydiving operations except for those who fly things made by Shorts or Cessna.
For some reason we want to believe there is high drama in situations where there may be very little, if any. Well it looks like I picked a bad week to stop mainlining heroin and reading about DB Cooper.
Here’s that article that represents the ‘third view’:
http://livermore.patch.com/articles/livermore-man-recaps-encounter-with-db-cooper
pek771 0
Thanks again, Robert99!
This rubber band thing has always been a sticking point to me. Maybe the money was also paper banded by the bank, but then you have glue decomposition on those bands. Someone put the money in the river intentionally is my best guess. 40 years is a long time to find nothing, with half the world and the FBI looking for anything remotely resembling a clue. I suppose if, by this time, Cooper has passed on, he is thumbing his nose at J. Edgar Hoover every chance he gets!
I didn't read all of this thread...it is pretty long. I suppose it could be culled down to about 100 pages easily enough to be the Readers Digest version.
This rubber band thing has always been a sticking point to me. Maybe the money was also paper banded by the bank, but then you have glue decomposition on those bands. Someone put the money in the river intentionally is my best guess. 40 years is a long time to find nothing, with half the world and the FBI looking for anything remotely resembling a clue. I suppose if, by this time, Cooper has passed on, he is thumbing his nose at J. Edgar Hoover every chance he gets!
I didn't read all of this thread...it is pretty long. I suppose it could be culled down to about 100 pages easily enough to be the Readers Digest version.
The concept of the "public figure" is broader than celebrities and politicians. A person can become an "involuntary public figure" as the result of publicity, even though that person did not want or invite it.
Tina never sought publicity. In fact she shunned it. Still, being associated with a famous crime has made her a public figure. It isn't fair, but that's the way it is IMO.
Justice Farflung. This may come up on your bar exam. Would you agree or file a dissenting opinion?
Damn. Marla Cooper never even got on Letterman and now shes just an ordinary person again. Fame can be so fleeting. Her planned cosmetic line will never happen, but there is still some commercial interest in her Uncle Norjack label for Bourbon. The speed at which the FBI attacked the DNA question is uncharacteristic.
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