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RobertMBlevins reflects:
“Still, many of them formed friendships that lasted for decades.
Like Kenny Christiansen and Bernie Geestman, for instance.”
I’m sure it was difficult for Bernie to leave his buddie’s behind when he departed Shemya.
Might want to check the almanac for average temps on Shemya versus oh, I don’t know….. how about Minneapolis?
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/USAK0276
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/USMN0503
Plus Kenny was a contractor on Shemya not in the military. He could leave anytime his wallet let him. Most left with wicked fat wallets, W-I-C-K-E-D FAT!
“Still, many of them formed friendships that lasted for decades.
Like Kenny Christiansen and Bernie Geestman, for instance.”
I’m sure it was difficult for Bernie to leave his buddie’s behind when he departed Shemya.
Might want to check the almanac for average temps on Shemya versus oh, I don’t know….. how about Minneapolis?
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/USAK0276
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/USMN0503
Plus Kenny was a contractor on Shemya not in the military. He could leave anytime his wallet let him. Most left with wicked fat wallets, W-I-C-K-E-D FAT!
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QuoteI’m sure it was difficult for Bernie to leave his buddie’s behind when he departed Shemya.
"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG
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QuoteQuoteI’m sure it was difficult for Bernie to leave his buddie’s behind when he departed Shemya.
Now we know what kept him warm!
Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs
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Come on Georger, it's OK to attack Blevins' conclusions but why deride him for doing real work, housecleaning?
I've made a lot more money pushing paper and arguing the legal version of how many angels can stand on the head of a pin, but I've also worked gutting fish and cleaning toilets. Doing real work, the kind that is defined by Newtonian physics isn't dishonorable or an indicator of intelligence. You know that and you've probably done a fair amount of that work yourself if you raise cows.
I know you get really torqued by Blevins. I don't. He's never claimed he can prove KC was DBC. He just has a theory and presents it as such. He is a magnet for vitriol but not mine. I am not his apologist or PR person. I just think he gets flamed so much that a fire extinguisher needs to be discharged once in a while.
Ted Braden might be a candidate who should be revisited. The guy had a motive for sure.
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I've made a lot more money pushing paper and arguing the legal version of how many angels can stand on the head of a pin, but I've also worked gutting fish and cleaning toilets. Doing real work, the kind that is defined by Newtonian physics isn't dishonorable or an indicator of intelligence. You know that and you've probably done a fair amount of that work yourself if you raise cows.
I know you get really torqued by Blevins. I don't. He's never claimed he can prove KC was DBC. He just has a theory and presents it as such. He is a magnet for vitriol but not mine. I am not his apologist or PR person. I just think he gets flamed so much that a fire extinguisher needs to be discharged once in a while.
Ted Braden might be a candidate who should be revisited. The guy had a motive for sure.
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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
QuoteLike those presecutors who persecutes, Blevins
has made Kenny be anything he wants ... like Jo
shapes Duane.
Georger, I never made Duane Weber to appear to be anything.
I recount first hand accounts that I know. That is all I am doing.
Like all of you - I get suckered into theories - because I don't know. What I do know is what counts. Read the 21 Questions.
Duane was a criminal - this I do know. Do I think he was Cooper? Yes, I do. I think he got lucky.
Duane did some really dumb things, but he was never caught for all of the crimes he committed. You know this and I know this.
If he was such a bungler at everything - how was it he was never arrested for crimes he commited after he was released from Jefferson as John Collins?
How did he con a major insurance company into his becoming a top producer and district manager? To have avoided being found out he had to have been doing something right. If they had known he was an ex-con - he would never have been the man who brought tears to so many in St. Thomas when he refused to take credit for his success.
Like any "job" you have to learn to be good at it or get replaced.
He worked for that insurance company all of those yrs - and no one knew what his past was.
Duane became the master of illusion - a successful insurance district and state manager who knew how to get his men to produce. How did he avoid detection all of those yrs?
He was watching his back constantly for people he had known from his past. Why he was always looking around a room. One time a man transferred to his area from another state (Mo or Ks) - this man would have recognized Duane Weber as John Collins. Duane immediately requested a transfer to another area.
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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QuoteIt's like Earl Cossey said "if he managed that hard pull,he landed"
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I'd bet he landed whether he pulled or not....just sayin'
So true Airtwardo. My instructor in 1968 said:
"Anyone can jump out of a a plane and land on the ground. What you are going to learn here is how to land alive, even if something goes wrong, so pay attention."
It wasn't hard to pay attention, there were no iPhones, iPods or Walkmans. Pterodactyls were our main collision hazards.
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QuoteQuoteQuoteI’m sure it was difficult for Bernie to leave his buddie’s behind when he departed Shemya.
Now we know what kept him warm!
I just KNEW you would catch that Vicki.
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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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Here’s a straight answer from someone who has been in Shemya and Minneapolis during winter (gulp). Yeah I’m bragging, don’t be jealous.
Without a doubt, Minneapolis has far harsher conditions than Shemya in the winter. Shemya suffered from crippling crosswinds that could last days. Oh, and that cliff at the end of the runway was a bitch too. But I’m sure you’ve heard all this in your interviews.
The contractors when I was there were making between 3 and 5 X prevailing wages compared to the lower 48. That included plumbers, electricians and all the other trades that make a mini city function.
So a lot of the money ended up in the bar? Welcome to Farflung’s world - anywhere in the world. Takes a great deal of booze to drink all those earnings which did NOT go to rent, utilities, insurance, cable, car payments, credit cards or any of the financial diversions you consider to be common place. Take a few moments to consider the magnitude of the previous sentence in relation to your own lifestyle and what the end result would be. It is NOT poverty, no matter how desperately that solution is desired.
Plus those sneaky aircrew would fly in cheap hooch from the lower 48 to keep living expenses down in a sort of ghost economy. The support system for this was truly efficient. This box of clinking glass is for ‘Amazing Bob’ in Hangar 2. It was always delivered.
Now where would I prefer to spend a winter? MINNEAPOLIS (read Nordic beauties here). With the bad WX and taxes and whatever; there is something about being part of a fully functioning society (read Nordic beauties here) that is compelling. I would be on Shemya to bag money and counting every day while I did it. There would be a purpose for me being on such a little slice of heaven and it isn’t the chicks behind every tree.
Without a doubt, Minneapolis has far harsher conditions than Shemya in the winter. Shemya suffered from crippling crosswinds that could last days. Oh, and that cliff at the end of the runway was a bitch too. But I’m sure you’ve heard all this in your interviews.
The contractors when I was there were making between 3 and 5 X prevailing wages compared to the lower 48. That included plumbers, electricians and all the other trades that make a mini city function.
So a lot of the money ended up in the bar? Welcome to Farflung’s world - anywhere in the world. Takes a great deal of booze to drink all those earnings which did NOT go to rent, utilities, insurance, cable, car payments, credit cards or any of the financial diversions you consider to be common place. Take a few moments to consider the magnitude of the previous sentence in relation to your own lifestyle and what the end result would be. It is NOT poverty, no matter how desperately that solution is desired.
Plus those sneaky aircrew would fly in cheap hooch from the lower 48 to keep living expenses down in a sort of ghost economy. The support system for this was truly efficient. This box of clinking glass is for ‘Amazing Bob’ in Hangar 2. It was always delivered.
Now where would I prefer to spend a winter? MINNEAPOLIS (read Nordic beauties here). With the bad WX and taxes and whatever; there is something about being part of a fully functioning society (read Nordic beauties here) that is compelling. I would be on Shemya to bag money and counting every day while I did it. There would be a purpose for me being on such a little slice of heaven and it isn’t the chicks behind every tree.
QuoteQuoteThis is probably an inconsequential bit of trivia but apparently I was mistaken, the Dan Cooper comics were available outside Europe at least at some point. I just noticed on eBay a Dan Cooper comic in Hebrew being sold from Israel, and one in Arabic being sold from Lebanon. Both were printed in the 1980's, but perhaps the series were available in those places earlier.
Now THIS -- could blow the case wide open!
Olive skin? Dark eyes?
You guys DO know what the average Israeli and Arab colouring is right....!!
We may have a new lead!
Remember Cooper being described as "accentless"? Doesn't that strike you as just the type of "fluency" learnt by a foreign secret service agent to pass as local?
Anyone got an Israeli paratrooper database?
Now you're talking, Orange!
Jo are you admitting yo are a first rate Lier
Blevins is your PO PO weak that now it apears you and Jo are a Fiurst rate Lier.Go figure even you guys are backing down. Its Jind of funny that this has happenned now you both are Backing off. Well Guess what Dale Cooper did not commit this crime. This is Just another fraude. Jerry
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QuoteNow you're talking, Orange!
Disclaimer: The following video has absolutely nothing to do with our Orange1.
LOL.......Bruce said "talking orange"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9jE33s51yY&NR=1
Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs
Relax Guys this case will never be solved untill someone finds something relating to one of the Chutes.This new story will just destroy Blevins Book and all others to include Jo webers story on purpose that is what it was meant to do . A pat on the back is due to ??????????????????? Jerry
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QuoteThe official wanted poster on the hijacker mentions 'possibly from Midwest section of US.' Get real. The hijacker was homegrown, born and bred in the good old USA.
My Dad was white and had olive toned skin. (see profile picture)
He was from the Midwest prior to the hijacking.
Was in his 40's (44 to be exact)
He was 6'0" tall and 180 lbs.
He had dark hair, parted on the left and sideburns to mid ear level.
Smoked - Drank.
Usually was dressed in a black/dark suit. Thin tie, White shirt, had sunglasses, and carried a briefcase.
He has been missing since September 1971.
Is wanted (still) by the US Marshal's, FBI and Secret Service.
OMG.......Do ya think? It can not be! Oh wait....yes it could.
(for Jo, OMG - Oh My Gosh)
Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs
Vicki , Your dad is one of the leading Candidates, He is being checked out . Unfourntunatly All the rest has been elliminated . Still Every one wants to Bring in there Lies and present a new subject Like Dale Cooper Or Blevins an Jo's Suspect . That there are now Denying. What it boils down too is Their all made up stories. Go Figure. I guess after this last story is proven false this thread will shutt down . Because all have admitted that they are nothing but Fiction Writers. Jerry
QuoteBlevins is your PO PO weak that now it apears you and Jo are a Fiurst rate Lier.Go figure even you guys are backing down. Its Jind of funny that this has happenned now you both are Backing off. Well Guess what Dale Cooper did not commit this crime. This is Just another fraude. Jerry
What Ever made you THINK I was backing off? NO WAY!
I have simply taken another road and one of those is NOT to deal with someone like you. As I have said NEVER call me that L word and you just did. Sit tight before the boomerang comes back and be sure to duck
The woman's story about her uncle only enforced the belief of others about Weber - because she used the story I told as the basis for her story - only she told something that was NOT correct and anyone with any brains would have caught it. YET, the FBI ate it up spending Government Dollar to run a wild Goose Chase. The moment I heard her story from her own mouth - I new it was a dead end.
NO Problems here! Just going another way rather than trying to prove Duane's story in a thread.
Note, I am not rebuttal in my comments - just answering questions. You will not engage me ever again....wait for the knock on your door and check the county records.
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
Jo So Now your saying You are still going to make up more stories and lies . Just admit it no one believes you or blevins anyway. I've talked to over 30 news stations and given out over 30 interviews/ . Ralph has reffused to give any Statements. on this subject. His statement was that it is worth a comment However . He would rather them contact him in person and they would have to pay him for his time. I don't Blame him because of the amount times he has had to deal with you. Jerry
Jo One more thing Please change your Avatar it does not look anything like the actual composite of cooper it just makes you look stupid.
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Point of order: The official wanted poster on the hijacker mentions 'possibly from Midwest section of US.' Get real. The hijacker was homegrown, born and bred in the good old USA. If he were a foreigner, the FBI would have figured that out pretty quick. And so would the stews.
*Conspiracy Theory Alert*
*Conspiracy Theory Alert*
Point of order? Point of information.
The choice of midwest was due to: the witness
testimony, ie. no accent, no dialect, and to his use
of one phrase several times which a linguist said
has its origin in Chicago.
Thanks for linking Geestman and Kenny at Foss
Tugs.
Good reply. Youve changed your avatar to a more
respectable civil pose. Congrats! Will the real Blevins
please stand up? Maybe you are brilliant after all?
I can see Geestman is in real trouble now.
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