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airtwaldo. What proof would you like proof can be suplied if you want it bad enough. Jerry
The money was found just beneath the surface of the sand.
Brian did NOT dig down 2 feet when he found that money. NOTHING has ever been said to indicate the money was more than a few inches below the surface. He was NOT digging a hole - but smoothing off a place to build a fire.
I did NOT invent the Angel Udell.
I have several witnesses who picked me up right after I talked to her (she was a truck driver).
I told the party picking me up that I had a call from the River Lady and she had something she wanted me to see. It was right in line with what the Angel Udell told me. The other area we went to after that - was exactly what I had tried to explain to JT. You mean to say you would NOT take the word of a law enforce individual and 2 of the women who are still living.
Are you saying they are lieing? The law enforcement person DOES not want to come forward because of JT....and the actions of JT when JT contacted him. Georger - Any time you want to talk - call me - I will give you the name and contact information for this person...it will have to be confidential as they do NOT want to go public
I even have the address that Udell gave me in 2001 - but when I called that place they never heard of her - why she became an ANGEL to me.
There is NO lieing here - this is all facts and there were witnesses. The FBI did NOT talk to them and they- choose NOT to be public. If Curtis Eng wants this information I will give it to him. Since you seem to have FBI connections why don't you suggest they get this information from me and check it out. I gave it to CARR but he didn't check it out - the FBI never called the man or the women.
Does NOT one of you think it ODD they would NOT contact a member of LAW enforcement to verifiy what happend in Wa in 2001? Unlike Cooper addicts when someone is not involved in this on a day to day basis, aome facts are lost. The FBI knew about these individuals in 2001 - WHY were they not interviewed?
I am younger than the two women who are still living and on of those is not in the best of hea
lth. The FBI just waits for more individuals to die - they do NOT want the truth to be known.
They do NOT want to face up to the fact that Cooper is the one who got away. The only other explanation would be cover-up.
So their Choice is just to continue the legend - then they never have to admit any mistakes being made on their part. Well, it is NOT going to happen - the truth will come out.
Brian did NOT dig down 2 feet when he found that money. NOTHING has ever been said to indicate the money was more than a few inches below the surface. He was NOT digging a hole - but smoothing off a place to build a fire.
I did NOT invent the Angel Udell.
I have several witnesses who picked me up right after I talked to her (she was a truck driver).
I told the party picking me up that I had a call from the River Lady and she had something she wanted me to see. It was right in line with what the Angel Udell told me. The other area we went to after that - was exactly what I had tried to explain to JT. You mean to say you would NOT take the word of a law enforce individual and 2 of the women who are still living.
Are you saying they are lieing? The law enforcement person DOES not want to come forward because of JT....and the actions of JT when JT contacted him. Georger - Any time you want to talk - call me - I will give you the name and contact information for this person...it will have to be confidential as they do NOT want to go public
I even have the address that Udell gave me in 2001 - but when I called that place they never heard of her - why she became an ANGEL to me.
There is NO lieing here - this is all facts and there were witnesses. The FBI did NOT talk to them and they- choose NOT to be public. If Curtis Eng wants this information I will give it to him. Since you seem to have FBI connections why don't you suggest they get this information from me and check it out. I gave it to CARR but he didn't check it out - the FBI never called the man or the women.
Does NOT one of you think it ODD they would NOT contact a member of LAW enforcement to verifiy what happend in Wa in 2001? Unlike Cooper addicts when someone is not involved in this on a day to day basis, aome facts are lost. The FBI knew about these individuals in 2001 - WHY were they not interviewed?
I am younger than the two women who are still living and on of those is not in the best of hea
lth. The FBI just waits for more individuals to die - they do NOT want the truth to be known.
They do NOT want to face up to the fact that Cooper is the one who got away. The only other explanation would be cover-up.
So their Choice is just to continue the legend - then they never have to admit any mistakes being made on their part. Well, it is NOT going to happen - the truth will come out.
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Blevins Geoger is right you do not know Tom Kaye. He is exstremely intellengent self taught and in his own way a genius. My problem with Tom kaye is that I disagree with some of his techniques. I consider Geoger a good friend we get pissed off at each other still we do talk. My point being that all though I may say somthing bad about someone, does not mean that is how i feel about them personally. So in this case I will agree with Geoger. Jerry
Jo Produce Proof of these witnesses. At our meeting at a local news station this comming week. How about at Pensicola Fla. . Time to shut down Jo. What about that meeting this coming week.I have all info with me Jerry
QuoteJo was quick to jump on this suggesting it has
something to do with chemicals in paint cans or Duane's PKD medication?
I never asked if the BLEEDING had anytthing to do with the containers or any medications Weber may have been taking at that time. If you are going to say I said something - the go find the QUOTE. I asked some questions and I made NO assumptions. I am to be put down for asking a question?
As for the bleeding I do have an idea and I mentioned the idea because of the missing time Duane had in The Dalles area. I asked about the money being stored beneath ground or under a building (I do not know if WA has basements and food cellars like we had in Colorado).
.QuoteThe bundles or portions of bundles (as distinct from
bills in bundles) that were found, were not perfectly
aligned when found and that is a fact. The Ingrams pryed portions of bundles apart on their kitchen table trying to get to individual bills that could be turned into a bank for a refund
Your own statement above actually proves how idiotic you are acting right now. You just like to hear yourself talk!
If the Ingrams pryed them apart - they were NOT together. Not scattered about. Oviously not all of the bills would be aligned...unless they were crisp new bills to start with.
I believe the bills had some damage before Cooper disposed of them - damage that he would not be able to pass off in a grocery or at a casino.
lI believe that Cooper retrieved his stash and that only the lower portion of the stash was damaged. So on an impluse he gets rid of it.....
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QuoteThe money was found just beneath the surface of the sand.
Brian did NOT dig down 2 feet when he found that money. NOTHING has ever been said to indicate the money was more than a few inches below the surface. He was NOT digging a hole - but smoothing off a place to build a fire.
Jo, It was the FBI personnel who dug up several areas near Brian Ingram's find and found the money fragments 2 or 3 feet down.
Jo You claimed Duane was Cooper. And he buried the money in different places on the columbia river. when you were with him still you claim that you new nothing about the cooper case. Yet you claim that he told you and showed you and you were with him whwn he burried the money. Still you claim that he pointed out as you crossed the cowitz river bridge that that where Cooper burried his money. Jo Its all BS commimg from You. What about the Dalles better yet what about your quest recently to the north west as far as Idaho to build upon your lies. Sorry Jo for your recent try to fraude this case it didn't work . Jerry
QuoteBlevins Geoger is right you do not know Tom Kaye. He is exstremely intellengent self taught and in his own way a genius. My problem with Tom kaye is that I disagree with some of his techniques. I consider Geoger a good friend we get pissed off at each other still we do talk. My point being that all though I may say somthing bad about someone, does not mean that is how i feel about them personally. So in this case I will agree with Geoger. Jerry
[RED]SO WHICH IS THE TRUTH, JERRY?
REMEMBER BACK WHEN YOU BLASTED KAYE AS HAVING ONLY A HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION?[/RED]
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Jo Yes I do . My last post explains that.Tom Kaye only has a High school education , Just ask him its a fact so what is your next point your still a lier or liar . Still explain your lies.And what about our meeting. Jerry
QuoteJo You claimed Duane was Cooper. And he buried the money in different places on the columbia river. when you were with him still you claim that you new nothing about the cooper case. Yet you claim that he told you and showed you and you were with him whwn he burried the money. Still you claim that he pointed out as you crossed the cowitz river bridge that that where Cooper burried his money. Jo Its all BS commimg from You. What about the Dalles better yet what about your quest recently to the north west as far as Idaho to build upon your lies. Sorry Jo for your recent try to fraude this case it didn't work . Jerry
You are an idiot and the most illiterate person I have ever had to deal with. Knowing who Cooper was in 1979 and my memory of the 1979 trip are simple deductions you are NOT capable of.
Note since I had NO idea where the Cowitz River was - you are the one who gave a name to the river - when I TRIED to explain where he took me. AGAIN you have NEVER understood and
you are ENCAPABLE of understanding I had only a memory of an area - and NO map and did NOT know the names of the places. BECAUSE you are the ONE who told me WHERE I WAS...even though I ARGUED with you about it and kept telling you NO.
WHAT do you have to gain by doing your twist and tell game.
You still will NOT admit you deliberately lied to me about the body of water and the mountain and 500. THERE is NO way anyone LIVING in WA and claiming to know the AREA - could have taken the descriptions I provided to you and tell me they did NOT exist. I took what you told me as truth - because you were supposed to be the man on the ground.
You told you about a loop we made in the Washougal area.
I learned later after 2001 that was Hwy 500. I told you about the cemetery off of the Washougal and the one in Washougal (I didn't know the name of the town back then). You told me I had to be in Vancouver or Cames - but I found out in 2001 I was in WASHOUGAL.
On the 2001 trip - I found out you had wasted yrs of my life with your crap. It was after I got home that I called you and told you off. YOU didn't record that one.and do you remember what your response was when I made that call? Exactly what you are saying now. "You lie". YOUR story started on that day and you have never let up.....
The damage done to my heart by you is not repairable - you are the Idiots Nighmare of the Cooper story. I am sure that one went right over your head.
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Jo Sorry . I have never wasted any thing. You have one problem that is to deal with me. You can do it publicly or loose your battle through this forum you can not do anything but admit you have decieved the FBI and the media . Funny thing you know it. Otherwise you would not play this game of yours. Still Jo, I realy would like for you to make a apearance at your local news station so i can present my evidence to them a long with other facts. However you will never show because you can not explain the changes in your stories or the made up stories or meetings/ or names you have presented in this case I will even invite Duanes nurse that you say heard him tell you he was Cooper along with his friend from georgia or any one that would like to prove me wrong. I have tried to contact Doug Pasternik to chalenge me along with a request for a polygraph that you said you would take in his article ( a lot of people realy want to see the results of that remember you promised you would. now is your chance.)So lets put a stop to your claims as to who is the lier and once and for all put a end to your BULL SHITT. Letrs do this Jo Jerry
Jo Your Failure to honor my request will prove once and for all that you are a liar.One more thing Remember all I realy had to do was post our phone numbers from that time frame and the conversations could be heard by all. still Technolgy is your down fall . Remeber the documentary you did with Tom( Not Tom Kaye, I will not post his last name at this time because I was asked not to) from california and your faked crying. You said I Know what I saw and it was a plane ticket that was placed in the box with the dead Dog. Tom told you there was nothing there but the dog and a ruber Ducky you already knew that then you said you did not know where the dog was buried. But yet you marked exactly the place where the dog was buried. After the film crew paid for your phoine bill and a local person to come out and exray / or ultrasound your back yard. only to find the money was wasted because you knew exactly where the dog was burried.Funny thing you didn't fool anyone not even them. They told you to move on. I was told it made for a good story.Still they had to present it into the documentary. Reason being was to cover the cost. Would you like for me to post more embarasing Facts. about your claims.Still I am willing to give you a opourtunity to save face all you have to do is prove not only me but all Wrong.r. Jerry
Mr.Green 0
Jo, why don't you just challenge JT with his requests and clear a lot of this up. I've tried to be nuetral in this fued between you and JT, but you are appearing to be real shady right now.
Mr.Green 0
and JT, show some kahunas and provide us with the phonecall audio.
georger 244
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Okay, Mr Smart Guy. You've spent a lot of time shooting down theory after theory. Let's hear YOURS. And you can stop picking on Tom Kaye anytime now. We both know WHY you may have certain resentments about him, right?
Are you a man for all seasons or just a Bottom
feeder?
Cough it up if you know so much about Tom!
I'd like to hear it, Momar.
Where is Gadhafi?
Take your time Momar - I wont be back for at least
10 hours. I have a life, unlike you!
You may have a life and all, sure. But you didn't answer the question. Running away from that question (your theory on the money) by saying 'I'll be gone for ten hours' is IMHO pretty frickin' lame. You are big on picking on theories, but it's obvious you haven't any of your own. Or if you do, you are afraid to take the heat for those theories. Either way...still lame.
Master: Rather than go through this shit any
more - I now concede that RobertMBlevins has fired
me from my position and knows more about
the Cooper case and 1980 Money Find than I do,
and always did, and I "aint got nuthin";
And that RobertMBlevins is now Tom Kaye's
spokesperson and holds the true keys to all
matters Tom or anyone else needs to know.
Good luck to Tom and Robert's science team.
The forum and everyone else should now turn to
Mister RobertM 'Hollywood' Blevins for all information
regarding these matters.
Sadly I say..... Es iz nit geshtoygen un nit
gefloygen
. (translation: you cant roller
skate in a herd of Blevins.)
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Jo wrote:
Jo,
Blaming Jerry for damage to your heart is over the top. It's an extraordinary claim. Where is the proof?
If words could cause heart damage the military would be all over it to develop word weapons.
Sure, stress does produce elevations in adrenaline, cortisol, heart rate and blood pressure, but it's a huge leap to say that Jerry damaged your heart.
Has it ever occurred to you that YOU could have simply ignored Jerry?
You've made all your points about Duane. The Internet assures they will be preserved. If all this stress is killing you then walk away from it. Devoting your last years to an obsession is a poor choice in my opinion.
Take up a new hobby. Meet new people. Don't stay in an environment that you claim is dangerous to your health.
Or admit that you exaggerate and over dramatize a bit and continue
with the status quo.
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QuoteThe damage done to my heart by you is not repairable - you are the Idiots Nighmare of the Cooper story. I am sure that one went right over your head.
Jo,
Blaming Jerry for damage to your heart is over the top. It's an extraordinary claim. Where is the proof?
If words could cause heart damage the military would be all over it to develop word weapons.
Sure, stress does produce elevations in adrenaline, cortisol, heart rate and blood pressure, but it's a huge leap to say that Jerry damaged your heart.
Has it ever occurred to you that YOU could have simply ignored Jerry?
You've made all your points about Duane. The Internet assures they will be preserved. If all this stress is killing you then walk away from it. Devoting your last years to an obsession is a poor choice in my opinion.
Take up a new hobby. Meet new people. Don't stay in an environment that you claim is dangerous to your health.
Or admit that you exaggerate and over dramatize a bit and continue
with the status quo.
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EVickiW 0
Quoteand JT, show some kahunas and provide us with the phonecall audio.
He left his cell number in a previous post if anyone wanted to listen to the tape...call him!
Post #26677 on page 1068. Look for the number and do as you wish. The 'ball' is now in your hands.
Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs
Mr.Green 0
What's wrong with uploading the audio to an online site?
EVickiW 0
QuoteWhat's wrong with uploading the audio to an online site?
I do not know and I do not answer for others. Maybe that is a question you can ask Jerry when you call.
Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs
Mr.Green 0
Well, I'm asking right now. Jerry, please upload the audio.
Green: what is your problem can't you read. I posted recently that I don't no how to up load these tapes to the computer Besides I don't have the equipment. These tapes are small caseetes. for miny tape recorders.So to put it bluntly I will not be posting them on Drop Zone. Jerry
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