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Quote377: Ever considered the idea of dropping into Ariel...LITERALLY? You know...like from the air under a canopy? You would be the hit of the day for sure. Extra points if you put on a pair of sunglasses after you land and are dressed like Cooper. Except for the shoes, of course. No one in their right mind would try to dupe his jump exactly.
Nahhh. As I age I've become a more cautious jumper. I've made a few "wilderness" jumps from aircraft such as a balloon and an ancient wooden sailplane, but these days I prefer a nice clear familiar DZ where no hard to see power lines or other hazards lay in wait to turn my kids into heirs.
I once landed in a K Mart parking lot in Illinois and no Airtwardo, it wasn't a demo jump. It's a long story. I got tagged "Blue Light Special" by the locals.
I'll volunteer Snowmann or Amazon. They'd go. I'd watch.
Or... the Ariel Tavern could pony up and hire Airtwardo. He'd do it for sure. It's amazing what some USPA Pro rated demo jumpers will do for a few hundred bucks.
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Jo Stated:
QuoteDoes anyone even re-call that Captain Scott used the intercom before they went down in Reno.
He stated they were making their approach to RENO and informed NO ONE (Coop was gone) that the stairway might substain damage and wanted to know if Coop needed any assistance in getting it back up.
They got NO answer and they took the plane on in to Reno.
When flight 305 landed sparks flew as the rear stairs bounced on the run-way.
Read the news articles of the time - DO you guys think ALL of those journalists got it wrong? Hell, some of them were at the airport when 307 came in for a landing.
Robert Stated:
QuoteJo, You are the one trying to replace facts with myths!
According to an entry at 10:35 PM PST in the Oakland Center's radio transcripts, Captain Scott tells the Reno tower controller that they are trying to contact Cooper to get the steps up. Earlier they had informed Cooper (or at least tried to) that damage to the stairs in landing at Reno might mean that they couldn't takeoff from there.
No sparks were seen in the landing at Reno. As the aircraft was taxiing to the ramp, the tower did see some sparks from the stairs dragging on the taxiway and reported this to the flight crew at 11:03PM PST.
The damage caused by the stairs dragging on the taxiway was very minor as can be seen from the photograph on Sluggo's web page.
You apparently consider the "journalists" to be better witnesses than the Reno tower controllers.
Jo SMILES!
I say journalists
You say Tower.
I say sparks flew.
You say sparks seen.
Regardless of how you interperate this - the Aft Stairs was down...be it bounced or dragged. I forgot to state the FBI report. It makes no difference if I used the source "journalist" and you used the source - I suppose the FBI files. WELL, Mr. Know It ALL, I have NOT read the FBI files...other than what has been in this thread and this thread did NOT exist in 1996 when I went public.
Jo Stated:
QuoteRecently Sluggo was offered a very large collection of old news article - most of which he does NOT have on his site. Sluggo made no reply to the OFFER.
Robert Replied:
QuoteJo, Were you the one who made the offer?
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Jo Laughs her head off.
Do you realize how silly that question is? I didn't own a computer and didn't know who to search for old newspapers. Surely you Jest!
When Sluggo wasn't interest in the articles for his site, I jumped at being able to obtain a collection of these old newpaper articles. I don't have them YET, but I will have them in the very near future.
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Blevins wrote
QuoteAm I to believe that NO ONE in Seattle wants to do this? National coverage is almost guaranteed for the tough guy who does the jump. I understand several media venues might show up for this one. If they thought someone would do it, they will show up for sure. Do we not have ONE BRAVE GUY who will pull it off?
What if I just walk in from the woods and claim I made the jump? I'll talk about dairy pails, boats, railroad hand cars, pipelines and lookout towers. Will that suffice?
Someone probably will make the jump. All that media is a big draw for one seeking fame. Maybe there is a big clear landing area. Hmmm. I should look at Google Earth before I decline immortatlity.
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He helped build airport runways in the N.W and over-seas. Air-Base construction. He was a jumper...I believe it was military. Anyone capable of searching these thing also needs to connect the name Ford with Taylor and it has to be connected with the above occupation and the N.W.
He knew Duane Weber, but was older. I got the impression they knew each other from the past.
Maybe they both knew Susan Garrity (I know I said Joan, but the signature on her art work is Susan). At my age working from memory can get out of sorts.
I may have solved one small mystery Duane left behind and it has NOTHING to do with Weber being Cooper. Sluggo said I was connecting dots that did not connect. He was right about this, but I did NOT show this particular item to him.
I will need to do some searching, because everyone is deceased that would be able to tell me the significance of the find. Need to find old obituaries and I don't have all of the infomation I need. I found something that stood out. As I have said before if Weber was NOT Cooper he sure as hell knew who was....
Our trip and his the dream and things he told me and showed me are all real and true. His confession was real....but, if he was NOT Cooper how did he come into possession of some items I feel are linked to Cooper? This discovery has really put a kink into the "story" and one I can't answer at this time.
Believe it or not - I uncovered this dot while making this post.
Something that was in plane site and I never saw it before. There goes that damn expression Duane used all of the time.
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Jo Stated:QuoteDoes anyone even re-call that Captain Scott used the intercom before they went down in Reno.
He stated they were making their approach to RENO and informed NO ONE (Coop was gone) that the stairway might substain damage and wanted to know if Coop needed any assistance in getting it back up.
They got NO answer and they took the plane on in to Reno.
When flight 305 landed sparks flew as the rear stairs bounced on the run-way.
Read the news articles of the time - DO you guys think ALL of those journalists got it wrong? Hell, some of them were at the airport when 307 came in for a landing.
Robert Stated:QuoteJo, You are the one trying to replace facts with myths!
According to an entry at 10:35 PM PST in the Oakland Center's radio transcripts, Captain Scott tells the Reno tower controller that they are trying to contact Cooper to get the steps up. Earlier they had informed Cooper (or at least tried to) that damage to the stairs in landing at Reno might mean that they couldn't takeoff from there.
No sparks were seen in the landing at Reno. As the aircraft was taxiing to the ramp, the tower did see some sparks from the stairs dragging on the taxiway and reported this to the flight crew at 11:03PM PST.
The damage caused by the stairs dragging on the taxiway was very minor as can be seen from the photograph on Sluggo's web page.
You apparently consider the "journalists" to be better witnesses than the Reno tower controllers.
Jo SMILES!
I say journalists
You say Tower.
I say sparks flew.
You say sparks seen.
Regardless of how you interperate this - the Aft Stairs was down...be it bounced or dragged. I forgot to state the FBI report. It makes no difference if I used the source "journalist" and you used the source - I suppose the FBI files. WELL, Mr. Know It ALL, I have NOT read the FBI files...other than what has been in this thread and this thread did NOT exist in 1996 when I went public.
Jo, Your patented and famous two-step is showing again.
You claim that since this thread did not exist in 1996, you are excused from reading the FBI files that are available. And the FBI files might just be a better source than your "journalists".
So "journalists" = Reno tower air traffic controllers?
And "Duane Weber" = D.B. Cooper?
Also, "Jo Weber" = (Fill in the blank)?
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QuotePerhaps the FBI needs to play with this name. Taylor. He helped build airport runways in the N.W and over-seas. Air-Base construction. He was a jumper...I believe it was military. Anyone capable of searching these thing also needs to connect the name Ford with Taylor and it has to be connected with the above occupation and the N.W.
If the FBI pursued all your leads Jo they'd have to hire a lot of new agents. Do you really think anybody will respond to your request to research Taylor and Ford without you revealing their relevance to Norjack?
TEASE CHECK: you recently stated that you were about to unveil blockbuster evidence that "the FBI can not ignore."
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Blevins wrote:
QuoteI wish I could do it myself, but I have no rig. I'm not scared to do it though. Been through worse. Yes, I would take a chance.
Don't let the lack of a rig hold you back Robert. I have a stock NB8 bailout rig ready to go with a never jumped C9 canopy.
No reserve, but you want the Cooper reenactment jump to be authentic, right?
It's easy, just jump out of the plane and pull the ripcord. After that there are a few challenges that may arise... but I am sure you will figure them out.
I'll be waiting below with your cold beer.
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Farflung 0
Motorcycle riding, running with the bulls and unprotected sex in Haiti are just a sampling of things which require little consideration or thought.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzVAx1n1QFw
Bad cow! I SAID BAD COW!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY6i3WlmM2Q
I think RobertMBlevins should jump since he has the desire and a free rig virtually placed at his feet by 377. Even if something does not ‘go as planned’ because the risks are so low and repeated risks are even lower. After all, what are the odds of catching herpes twice?
Deep thoughts indeed.
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QuoteMotorcycle riding, running with the bulls and unprotected sex in Haiti are just a sampling of things which require little consideration or thought.
If you had been Arnold Schwarzenegers Chief of "Staff", he'd have avoided a lot of trouble Farflung. As a democrat, I am pleased that he did not have the benefit of your expert counseling.
Well, we called Belvins' bluff. I hope he declines. Gayla would kick his butt if he were injured doing such a foolish thing.
I'll offer to do a BASE jump off the tavern porch with my NB8. How's that for courage?
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My analytical brain says the odds of surviving a jump are good. Surviving can be defined as walking into a cheering crowd of bikini clad beauties holding a cold beer or eight months in therapy learning to squeeze a rubber ball. Gosh, I wonder which condition I would likely experience?
That phrase ‘ignorance is bliss’ has retained traction from a long list of individuals which Darwin said would spring from the loins of the planet’s most advanced species. This is why I’m ambivalent about guard rails, expiration dates on dairy products and double insulated power tools. I just feel we are interfering with nature to a point that makes genetic engineering and organ harvesting appear completely ethical. If ‘Stinky’ Andersen wants to see what would happen if he put his finger in the spinning spokes of his Schwinn, I say let him enjoy the experience and the maximum of nine more to follow if he so desires.
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Uhhh, that was Tease No. 26,903 by actual count.
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