BruceSmith 3 #26201 October 3, 2011 Quote Interesting article. Written by one of Bruce's buddies ( in spirit at least http://www.groundzeromedia.org/my-life-with-db-cooper/ Quote Hey Smokin' - I don't know Clyde Lewis, but he certainly does seem like a kindred spirit. BTW: I'm undergoing weekly hypnosis sessions to travel through time and space via remote viewing processes to see for myself what happened Nov. 24, 1971. An interesting journey, and one that I will be writing about soon. Chapter 26 in my book. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryThomas 0 #26202 October 3, 2011 377:Your a intellegent Individial but yet you say your not sure that coopers choice of Gear points to an inexperiece jumper.Why do you want to test your own intelgence. Even you have said in the past that Coopers choice was questionable.377 Some of your post, seems to lead people on, with chalenging comments and others seem to debunk them. Kind of like humpty dumpty and wondering which side of the wall he will fall too.Stop trying to confuse your self. You react with a lot of your post as a new attourney that can't figure out if he wants to be a prosecutor or a defense attourney.So please make a decission and stick to it. I'm sure you realize that a lot of your post does cause friction. and are misleading . Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryThomas 0 #26203 October 3, 2011 Bruce: your news paper is hard to leave comments on. I and others have left feedback but when we check our comments later they have either been deleted or changed.Why? And don't ask for spacifics I will give them to the forum and Seattle times. Or you can just ask a few people. We all know that you post on your own Feedback and respond to it using fake names, this question has been ask before by others.You keep asking for Info from all you contacts and say it will be held confidential. I gave you a piece of Info and you published it. You were told, you were the only one this Info was given to . You choose to treat the trust I gave you as nothing more than a turd you flush down a toilet. How any one could ever trust you and your writing is beyond me. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smokin99 0 #26204 October 3, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Interesting article. Written by one of Bruce's buddies ( in spirit at least http://www.groundzeromedia.org/my-life-with-db-cooper/ Quote Hey Smokin' - I don't know Clyde Lewis, but he certainly does seem like a kindred spirit. BTW: I'm undergoing weekly hypnosis sessions to travel through time and space via remote viewing processes to see for myself what happened Nov. 24, 1971. An interesting journey, and one that I will be writing about soon. Chapter 26 in my book. Um, okay, but you know you're gonna need a control if you want to convince skeptics. Not sure how what you're doing works, but maybe you can pick someone on here that knows exactly where they were or what they were doing Nov 24, 1971 so you can post that too. Hey I don't discount anything. I had a sister-in-law that told of the death of two folks before they were found dead. Said they came to her and called her name. She called and had someone check on them. (And no, she didn't kill them) One guy died in his sleep and the other one committed suicide. She also suddenly stopped right before a bridge over a creek once. She had to brake for a family with a covered wagon crossing the road. Said the woman walking along side the wagon turned and looked right at her. No one else in the car saw it. I was there and it sent chills cause her reaction was so spot on earnest. More stuff like that happened to her. Quite twilight zonish I know, but I believed her. She passed away several years ago. I keep waiting for a visit but so far nothing. Guess I don't possess the requisite mojo. Though I did see a UFO once. but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryThomas 0 #26205 October 3, 2011 Hominid/ Jerry: Where is Ventura, Which state .Last but not least how did you find DropZone, Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryThomas 0 #26206 October 3, 2011 Smokin 99. What tabloid news paper is Bruce interviewing for.All should realy read his post.Then come to your own conclusion's, Is it just another attempt to destroy another Military Man. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ClassClown 0 #26207 October 3, 2011 Are we gtting ready for an old fashioned Cooper throwdown between........................................Jerry Thomas and Bruce Smith? ........................Boys will be Boys and this certainly has the qualifications of such behavior...................Rock On Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryThomas 0 #26208 October 3, 2011 Class Clown: It is confirmed you have posted on this forum recently under a different name, Although I could be wrong. Are you sure your favorite collor is not green. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hominid 0 #26209 October 3, 2011 QuoteHominid/ Jerry: Where is Ventura, Which state .Last but not least how did you find DropZone, Jerry Jerry, That's in southern California. I entered it when I did my profile, but somehow it didn't take. The area is OK if you like sun and surfing, but the wilderness around here is almost desert. Go out thru the hills or mtns and ya have to bust thru brush or stuff they call chaparal that is all thorn and is just a big tangle. Lower elevation the dust just flies, so you choke awful goin thru it. Jan & Feb is best cause stuff is clean and green. I found dropzone by searchin for stuff using yahoo. Read both threads looking for info. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farflung 0 #26210 October 3, 2011 Strange, you said georger invited you to the forum. Your knowledge of the stairs appears to be just a porous. Having a tough time telling which reality you’re typing about at such an advanced age? Yet you know which light was illuminated at the Flight Engineers panel and won’t share that information (there are two). You like to ask ‘leading’ questions and steer people to your pre-plotted answer. So fresh, so new. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BruceSmith 3 #26211 October 3, 2011 QuoteBruce: your news paper is hard to leave comments on. I and others have left feedback but when we check our comments later they have either been deleted or changed.Why? And don't ask for spacifics I will give them to the forum and Seattle times. Or you can just ask a few people. We all know that you post on your own Feedback and respond to it using fake names, this question has been ask before by others.You keep asking for Info from all you contacts and say it will be held confidential. I gave you a piece of Info and you published it. You were told, you were the only one this Info was given to . You choose to treat the trust I gave you as nothing more than a turd you flush down a toilet. How any one could ever trust you and your writing is beyond me. Jerry Quote Yes, sometimes (and certainly at present) it is difficult to post comments on the Mountain News. Not sure why. We have had some serious technical glitches and this issue seems to be one of them. Word Press, the platform for the Mountain News, seems to be the primary source of the technical problems. As a result, I certainly offer anyone who would like to post on the Mountain News the option of sending me the commentary in an email, brucesmith@rainierconnect.com , and I will place your words on the Mountain News. As for revealing confidential information from you, Jerry, here or elsewhere, I am not aware that I have. However, in the event that I did transgress somehow, well, then I certainly apolgize. If you could tell me what the information was, I'd appreciate it so that I don't spill the beans again. As for using aliases or some of the ploys you've described, I never use them, as I have no need for them. If people don't want to talk to me, then that is what I write, namely their refusal to comment. I find such discriptions of fear produce excellent stories and draw plenty of readers. Regarding your charge that I delete people's comments, I have never done that on a DB Cooper story. On occaison I have had to make significant edits on posts that concern criminal activity, such as the recent homicide in Graham, WA by a former minister of the New Testament Christian Church that I've written about extensively. Sometimes, members of the victim's family say rash things that are unfair to the alleged murderer, and illegal in my view. As per your above post, I eagerly await to get the latest from you via the Seattle Times. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JerryThomas 0 #26212 October 3, 2011 Hominid: Just curious ,There is the same town (name) in other states. "Retired" I prefer the saying Pleasingly Retarded and alergic to the worst 4 letter word on the planet(WORK).Have you ever been on HWY 101 near the town of Forks . or just off I 84 near Baker City Oregon. This is where Shelly and I live. In forks area we have the ocean. In baker City area we live at 5,000 ft in the mountains. Lots of Snow in the winter. We have the best of both worlds. So if you get a chance and your up this way please stop by. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #26213 October 3, 2011 Quote377:Your a intellegent Individial but yet you say your not sure that coopers choice of Gear points to an inexperiece jumper.Why do you want to test your own intelgence. Even you have said in the past that Coopers choice was questionable.377 Some of your post, seems to lead people on, with chalenging comments and others seem to debunk them. Kind of like humpty dumpty and wondering which side of the wall he will fall too.Stop trying to confuse your self. You react with a lot of your post as a new attourney that can't figure out if he wants to be a prosecutor or a defense attourney.So please make a decission and stick to it. I'm sure you realize that a lot of your post does cause friction. and are misleading . Jerry Jerry, I can't do what you suggest ("please make a decision and stick to it"). Too many uncertainties remain in the case. You are 100% sure Cooper died on the jump. I am not at all certain either way. That's why I go back and forth. Show me proof that he died. The money is circumstantial evidence that is more consistent with Cooper dieing than living and escaping, but it's far from proving he died. Sorry if my uncommitted stance and posts irritate you. I just can't take a firm position on whether Cooper survived. You are free to express your opinions. They don't bother me. How did the Mustang do going cross country in the summer? That's a hell of a test for an old car. No probs? Hope Shelley babies it 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjack71 0 #26214 October 3, 2011 QuoteThe area is OK if you like sun and surfing, but the wilderness around here is almost desert. Go out thru the hills or mtns and ya have to bust thru brush or stuff they call chaparal that is all thorn and is just a big tangle. Lower elevation the dust just flies, so you choke awful goin thru it. Jan & Feb is best cause stuff is clean and green. All of this stuff you guys have done is for ought. The Cooper Case will be closed VERY soon. WE are there. We have done it. WE need 2 favors from the FBI only they can grant. With or without these 2 favors WE go FORWARD. We have only 45 days left to finish this - and if the FBI will not assist us - we will go FORWARD anyway. I can NOT talk about what is being done right now - it has me all tied up in knots. I want all of this to be over - and we don't have time to waste. I just hope the FBI does the right thing - and help us with one KEY -- their involvement would make this official. An OLD witness came forward - but he need immunitiy due to to his involvement in concealment. I talk in circles because I have been told KEEK MY MOUTH SHUT. Part of it was in the 1979 tax papers - and it blew my mind or what I have left of it. Finding that opened all of the doors...and Cooper could NOT hang around where he had been spending Cooper money. Until this Cooper did not know how the FBI knew the bils on the beach belonged to to Cooper. [Blue]Cooper got rid of them because they were damaged and he washed the rest of the money. Poor Jerry never saw the paper work - and he needs to shut up - he is NOT part of this story. We are waiting for the phone calls before we proceed. Otherwise we proceed on our own with a crinimal attorney in place of the FBI personel. To night I can actuall breath - I see the end coming and it will be good. Good Night, to those who know and to those you only talk. NOTE, I have not been saying much. What we found is FUNNY.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Farflung 0 #26215 October 3, 2011 I realize there are certain mysteries which will never be solved like the Pyramids of Giza, the statuary of Easter Island and the utter destruction and havoc wreaked upon the restrooms in Hometown Buffets on ‘Senior’s day.’ At least one of these mysteries could be mitigated through pressurization. I don’t know what the deal is with this secret club or the part of the olfactory organ that atrophies when people transition from living to fermenting. But I suspect it accompanies impotence which triggers the ‘brag gene’ to grow and seek relevance in some delusional fantasy of past importance which never was. As stated earlier, this remains a mystery and I have no fantasies of solving the thing just making it more tolerable. If polio can be eliminated and civil rights passed then harnessing the daily atrocities committed in Hometown Buffets across the nation should be simple. We’ve all seen the procession of Zombies and piles of dusty meat wearing a shirt outside the door of a Hometown Buffet twenty minutes before they open. Closer examination reveals that they aren’t Zombies or dusty piles of meat but customers anxiously waiting for the ‘Senior’s Special’ to begin that runs a marathon four hours. This is an event where the goal is to bankrupt the enterprise while exacting a slow torture on the employees and scant number of younger patrons who will NEVER return. Sure seniors have buffet specials, store discounts even segregated housing they demand where the rest of us can’t discriminate based on age. But do they demand senior restrooms? By a margin of 100% they don’t and the reason is patently obvious; they know exactly what there’re doing and think it’s hilarious. I’ve tried to simulate the atmosphere but the closest I came involved throwing half a dozen skunks into a concrete mixer filled with over ripened durian on an August afternoon in Houston. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZp9UsHv-i0&feature=related What better place to create a negative pressure environment Hominid? Make these ‘destinations’ the sucking portals to hell that they already represent into a less offensive version. I don’t care what Hominid is doing in there and your welcome to stay for hours as appears to be the habit anyway. This simply allows those who are on a lunch break (and alive) the ability to wash up without becoming temporarily bulimic, then spending the rest of the day praying for the arrival of sweet death over the fire made from burning the clothes worn in the restroom. What sort of power would be required? Three phase? What size motor would produce an acceptable vacuum? Of course the need for separated redundancy and an un-interrupted power supply should be obvious and more reliable than that required for a heart/lung machine. After all, it’s not like the guys on the machines are awake or anything, let’s try and consider the living for a change. This should be enough of a thumbnail to get the ‘Hominid pressurization team’ to knock out a design and create some cost estimates. Don’t worry, the younger crowd will gladly fund the entire venture. Good luck and thanks for being so humble and helpful! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JerryThomas 0 #26216 October 3, 2011 Bruce I'm Not sure you realy want the latest from the times. Still excuses does not help replace the confidence I placed in you only to see a post on your paper by a fictictious name regarrding info only one person has been told and that person was you.Funny thing was, I was contacted and told of this post. I realy didn't believe this had happened untill I read it my self. So Bruce I will never give you any Info on the Cooper Subject, ever again, Nor will any of those that I have Contact with. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BruceSmith 3 #26217 October 3, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Interesting article. Written by one of Bruce's buddies ( in spirit at least http://www.groundzeromedia.org/my-life-with-db-cooper/ Quote Hey Smokin' - I don't know Clyde Lewis, but he certainly does seem like a kindred spirit. BTW: I'm undergoing weekly hypnosis sessions to travel through time and space via remote viewing processes to see for myself what happened Nov. 24, 1971. An interesting journey, and one that I will be writing about soon. Chapter 26 in my book. Um, okay, but you know you're gonna need a control if you want to convince skeptics. Not sure how what you're doing works, but maybe you can pick someone on here that knows exactly where they were or what they were doing Nov 24, 1971 so you can post that too. Hey I don't discount anything. I had a sister-in-law that told of the death of two folks before they were found dead. Said they came to her and called her name. She called and had someone check on them. (And no, she didn't kill them) One guy died in his sleep and the other one committed suicide. She also suddenly stopped right before a bridge over a creek once. She had to brake for a family with a covered wagon crossing the road. Said the woman walking along side the wagon turned and looked right at her. No one else in the car saw it. I was there and it sent chills cause her reaction was so spot on earnest. More stuff like that happened to her. Quite twilight zonish I know, but I believed her. She passed away several years ago. I keep waiting for a visit but so far nothing. Guess I don't possess the requisite mojo. Though I did see a UFO once. Quote I agree with you completely, Smoke, and any remote viewing will need to be corroborated with traditional forms of evidence. The mantra in these realms is "Exrarordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." I concur whole-heartedly. The approach I'm taking journalistically is that a new science - a new body of forensic tools - may be required to solve the DB Cooper case, and developing those abilities will make a good story whether they prove conclusive in the short term or not. Just like DNA and microscopic analysis of diatoms, spores, and mineral signatures ala Tom Kaye were not in the FBI's forensic arsenal 40 years ago, what is the next step in the evolution of solving crimes? I say that the principles of hyper-dimensional physics may be one source to develop the new procedures and hardware. As for a control, the suggestion you've made is superb. Any volunteers for letting me place my "third eye" on your whereabouts and doings on Nov 24, 1971? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JerryThomas 0 #26218 October 3, 2011 Jo This is good stuff. hope it is documented. It can be added to the Fraude procicution case. Hope it has a Polygraph test attached. Still more of your Lies. You see, Jo no one has, or will take your case on. If any of this is True! post it. But once again it is all lies. Jo with out a polygraph test your words are useless this last post of yours is BS. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BruceSmith 3 #26219 October 3, 2011 QuoteBruce I'm Not sure you realy want the latest from the times. Still excuses does not help replace the confidence I placed in you only to see a post on your paper by a fictictious name regarrding info only one person has been told and that person was you.Funny thing was, I was contacted and told of this post. I realy didn't believe this had happened untill I read it my self. So Bruce I will never give you any Info on the Cooper Subject, ever again, Nor will any of those that I have Contact with. Jerry Quote Fair enough, Jerry. Do what you need to do to feel safe. Nevertheless, I assure you that I did not make the post that I think you're referring to on the Mountain News, the details of which I'm kind of hazy. In trying to assess who is lying here or telling truth, consider this: How do I benefit from making a false-flag comment in my own online magazine? What do I gain from such an act? Why wouldn't I just write a story on the subject I'd like revealed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #26220 October 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteR99: It has info about what instruments, nav recvrs, their -100 series had. NWA likely had similar. You'd just need to accomodate the fact that TWA's had KIFIS and I'm sure you know N467US didn't. Hominid, Several people on this thread have been unable to determine the exact flight instrumention that was installed on NWA N467US, Boeing 727-051 model, which was delivered in early 1965. However, it appears to have been just basic instrumentation including a RMI, HSI, and a state-of-the-art Attitude Indicator which did not have any Flight Director capabilities. If you run across the precise NWA 727 instrumentation please post it to this thread. Long ago on this forum a debate was happening over whether the NWA 727 had radio teletype (RTTY) gear aboard. I was nearly certain that it didn't but nearly isn't good enough. I located a retired NWA 727 pilot who was flying in 71. He confirmed: no RTTY, no HF radios. I asked while I had this gentleman in a dialog whether anyone had further questions. Nobody stepped forward. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JerryThomas 0 #26221 October 3, 2011 Bruce. I know for a fact that you made the post I am refering to. Stand by for a PM. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #26222 October 3, 2011 Jo wroteQuoteAll of this stuff you guys have done is for ought. The Cooper Case will be closed VERY soon. WE are there. We have done it. Yawn. This claim is not really worth the attention of the Tease Police, but it's a slow day on the beat. You haven't solved the case Jo. Why imply that you have? Is teasing in your DNA? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JerryThomas 0 #26223 October 3, 2011 Jo Do you have a picture of you dated back to the 70s/80s . Iv'e found a composite drawing that describes you. weight and all. Looks just like you.Only difference is this composite matches your profile to a T and not like you claim Duanes Avatar matches him. What were your aliases again.WoW! Its unbelievable. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites smokin99 0 #26224 October 3, 2011 Quote As for a control, the suggestion you've made is superb. Any volunteers for letting me place my "third eye" on your whereabouts and doings on Nov 24, 1971? Not me. I might have been doing something really stupid. I can see some problems with this suggestion. At least with DB you have a scene/place to start with. Don't know the mechanics of this stuff, but one would assume that if you're traveling back in time to see something you got to have a place in mind to go to? Like it wouldn't do any good to try and view Kennedy's assassination if you're hovering over some dive in Newark, N.J. So you'd have to know their general location at the time in order to spy on em or risk getting lost?? So you'd have to have some basic information to start with before you observe what they were doing, right? Course if this thing works um...horizontally? you could have someone on here do something very specific while you're doing your session - like open a book to a specific page. You can just pop in and look over their shoulder and post what book, what page they're on, what they're wearing, what's in their medicine cabinet. Now that would be creepy. Course you'd have to remember to allow for time zone changes. Nah, I guess as long as you go from the west coast to the east coast you'd be okay. And no cheating....... Vinny: How many fingers am I holding up? Judge Haller: Let the record show that the counselor is holding up 2 fingers. Vinny: Hey, your honor please, huh? Judge Haller: Oh, sorry. Vinny: Now. Mrs. Riley,...... and only Mrs. Riley.but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 244 #26225 October 3, 2011 Quote Jo wrote Quote All of this stuff you guys have done is for ought. The Cooper Case will be closed VERY soon. WE are there. We have done it. Yawn. This claim is not really worth the attention of the Tease Police, but it's a slow day on the beat. You haven't solved the case Jo. Why imply that you have? Is teasing in your DNA? 377 in your long patience have you not learned the difference between her tease and her gossip - she gossips here about gossip in WA and gossip she is privy to. Now she will be pissed I sprang her leak. Shall I name it!? You people are shameless. 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JerryThomas 0 #26212 October 3, 2011 Hominid: Just curious ,There is the same town (name) in other states. "Retired" I prefer the saying Pleasingly Retarded and alergic to the worst 4 letter word on the planet(WORK).Have you ever been on HWY 101 near the town of Forks . or just off I 84 near Baker City Oregon. This is where Shelly and I live. In forks area we have the ocean. In baker City area we live at 5,000 ft in the mountains. Lots of Snow in the winter. We have the best of both worlds. So if you get a chance and your up this way please stop by. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #26213 October 3, 2011 Quote377:Your a intellegent Individial but yet you say your not sure that coopers choice of Gear points to an inexperiece jumper.Why do you want to test your own intelgence. Even you have said in the past that Coopers choice was questionable.377 Some of your post, seems to lead people on, with chalenging comments and others seem to debunk them. Kind of like humpty dumpty and wondering which side of the wall he will fall too.Stop trying to confuse your self. You react with a lot of your post as a new attourney that can't figure out if he wants to be a prosecutor or a defense attourney.So please make a decission and stick to it. I'm sure you realize that a lot of your post does cause friction. and are misleading . Jerry Jerry, I can't do what you suggest ("please make a decision and stick to it"). Too many uncertainties remain in the case. You are 100% sure Cooper died on the jump. I am not at all certain either way. That's why I go back and forth. Show me proof that he died. The money is circumstantial evidence that is more consistent with Cooper dieing than living and escaping, but it's far from proving he died. Sorry if my uncommitted stance and posts irritate you. I just can't take a firm position on whether Cooper survived. You are free to express your opinions. They don't bother me. How did the Mustang do going cross country in the summer? That's a hell of a test for an old car. No probs? Hope Shelley babies it 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #26214 October 3, 2011 QuoteThe area is OK if you like sun and surfing, but the wilderness around here is almost desert. Go out thru the hills or mtns and ya have to bust thru brush or stuff they call chaparal that is all thorn and is just a big tangle. Lower elevation the dust just flies, so you choke awful goin thru it. Jan & Feb is best cause stuff is clean and green. All of this stuff you guys have done is for ought. The Cooper Case will be closed VERY soon. WE are there. We have done it. WE need 2 favors from the FBI only they can grant. With or without these 2 favors WE go FORWARD. We have only 45 days left to finish this - and if the FBI will not assist us - we will go FORWARD anyway. I can NOT talk about what is being done right now - it has me all tied up in knots. I want all of this to be over - and we don't have time to waste. I just hope the FBI does the right thing - and help us with one KEY -- their involvement would make this official. An OLD witness came forward - but he need immunitiy due to to his involvement in concealment. I talk in circles because I have been told KEEK MY MOUTH SHUT. Part of it was in the 1979 tax papers - and it blew my mind or what I have left of it. Finding that opened all of the doors...and Cooper could NOT hang around where he had been spending Cooper money. Until this Cooper did not know how the FBI knew the bils on the beach belonged to to Cooper. [Blue]Cooper got rid of them because they were damaged and he washed the rest of the money. Poor Jerry never saw the paper work - and he needs to shut up - he is NOT part of this story. We are waiting for the phone calls before we proceed. Otherwise we proceed on our own with a crinimal attorney in place of the FBI personel. To night I can actuall breath - I see the end coming and it will be good. Good Night, to those who know and to those you only talk. NOTE, I have not been saying much. What we found is FUNNY.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farflung 0 #26215 October 3, 2011 I realize there are certain mysteries which will never be solved like the Pyramids of Giza, the statuary of Easter Island and the utter destruction and havoc wreaked upon the restrooms in Hometown Buffets on ‘Senior’s day.’ At least one of these mysteries could be mitigated through pressurization. I don’t know what the deal is with this secret club or the part of the olfactory organ that atrophies when people transition from living to fermenting. But I suspect it accompanies impotence which triggers the ‘brag gene’ to grow and seek relevance in some delusional fantasy of past importance which never was. As stated earlier, this remains a mystery and I have no fantasies of solving the thing just making it more tolerable. If polio can be eliminated and civil rights passed then harnessing the daily atrocities committed in Hometown Buffets across the nation should be simple. We’ve all seen the procession of Zombies and piles of dusty meat wearing a shirt outside the door of a Hometown Buffet twenty minutes before they open. Closer examination reveals that they aren’t Zombies or dusty piles of meat but customers anxiously waiting for the ‘Senior’s Special’ to begin that runs a marathon four hours. This is an event where the goal is to bankrupt the enterprise while exacting a slow torture on the employees and scant number of younger patrons who will NEVER return. Sure seniors have buffet specials, store discounts even segregated housing they demand where the rest of us can’t discriminate based on age. But do they demand senior restrooms? By a margin of 100% they don’t and the reason is patently obvious; they know exactly what there’re doing and think it’s hilarious. I’ve tried to simulate the atmosphere but the closest I came involved throwing half a dozen skunks into a concrete mixer filled with over ripened durian on an August afternoon in Houston. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZp9UsHv-i0&feature=related What better place to create a negative pressure environment Hominid? Make these ‘destinations’ the sucking portals to hell that they already represent into a less offensive version. I don’t care what Hominid is doing in there and your welcome to stay for hours as appears to be the habit anyway. This simply allows those who are on a lunch break (and alive) the ability to wash up without becoming temporarily bulimic, then spending the rest of the day praying for the arrival of sweet death over the fire made from burning the clothes worn in the restroom. What sort of power would be required? Three phase? What size motor would produce an acceptable vacuum? Of course the need for separated redundancy and an un-interrupted power supply should be obvious and more reliable than that required for a heart/lung machine. After all, it’s not like the guys on the machines are awake or anything, let’s try and consider the living for a change. This should be enough of a thumbnail to get the ‘Hominid pressurization team’ to knock out a design and create some cost estimates. Don’t worry, the younger crowd will gladly fund the entire venture. Good luck and thanks for being so humble and helpful! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryThomas 0 #26216 October 3, 2011 Bruce I'm Not sure you realy want the latest from the times. Still excuses does not help replace the confidence I placed in you only to see a post on your paper by a fictictious name regarrding info only one person has been told and that person was you.Funny thing was, I was contacted and told of this post. I realy didn't believe this had happened untill I read it my self. So Bruce I will never give you any Info on the Cooper Subject, ever again, Nor will any of those that I have Contact with. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BruceSmith 3 #26217 October 3, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Interesting article. Written by one of Bruce's buddies ( in spirit at least http://www.groundzeromedia.org/my-life-with-db-cooper/ Quote Hey Smokin' - I don't know Clyde Lewis, but he certainly does seem like a kindred spirit. BTW: I'm undergoing weekly hypnosis sessions to travel through time and space via remote viewing processes to see for myself what happened Nov. 24, 1971. An interesting journey, and one that I will be writing about soon. Chapter 26 in my book. Um, okay, but you know you're gonna need a control if you want to convince skeptics. Not sure how what you're doing works, but maybe you can pick someone on here that knows exactly where they were or what they were doing Nov 24, 1971 so you can post that too. Hey I don't discount anything. I had a sister-in-law that told of the death of two folks before they were found dead. Said they came to her and called her name. She called and had someone check on them. (And no, she didn't kill them) One guy died in his sleep and the other one committed suicide. She also suddenly stopped right before a bridge over a creek once. She had to brake for a family with a covered wagon crossing the road. Said the woman walking along side the wagon turned and looked right at her. No one else in the car saw it. I was there and it sent chills cause her reaction was so spot on earnest. More stuff like that happened to her. Quite twilight zonish I know, but I believed her. She passed away several years ago. I keep waiting for a visit but so far nothing. Guess I don't possess the requisite mojo. Though I did see a UFO once. Quote I agree with you completely, Smoke, and any remote viewing will need to be corroborated with traditional forms of evidence. The mantra in these realms is "Exrarordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." I concur whole-heartedly. The approach I'm taking journalistically is that a new science - a new body of forensic tools - may be required to solve the DB Cooper case, and developing those abilities will make a good story whether they prove conclusive in the short term or not. Just like DNA and microscopic analysis of diatoms, spores, and mineral signatures ala Tom Kaye were not in the FBI's forensic arsenal 40 years ago, what is the next step in the evolution of solving crimes? I say that the principles of hyper-dimensional physics may be one source to develop the new procedures and hardware. As for a control, the suggestion you've made is superb. Any volunteers for letting me place my "third eye" on your whereabouts and doings on Nov 24, 1971? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryThomas 0 #26218 October 3, 2011 Jo This is good stuff. hope it is documented. It can be added to the Fraude procicution case. Hope it has a Polygraph test attached. Still more of your Lies. You see, Jo no one has, or will take your case on. If any of this is True! post it. But once again it is all lies. Jo with out a polygraph test your words are useless this last post of yours is BS. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BruceSmith 3 #26219 October 3, 2011 QuoteBruce I'm Not sure you realy want the latest from the times. Still excuses does not help replace the confidence I placed in you only to see a post on your paper by a fictictious name regarrding info only one person has been told and that person was you.Funny thing was, I was contacted and told of this post. I realy didn't believe this had happened untill I read it my self. So Bruce I will never give you any Info on the Cooper Subject, ever again, Nor will any of those that I have Contact with. Jerry Quote Fair enough, Jerry. Do what you need to do to feel safe. Nevertheless, I assure you that I did not make the post that I think you're referring to on the Mountain News, the details of which I'm kind of hazy. In trying to assess who is lying here or telling truth, consider this: How do I benefit from making a false-flag comment in my own online magazine? What do I gain from such an act? Why wouldn't I just write a story on the subject I'd like revealed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #26220 October 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteR99: It has info about what instruments, nav recvrs, their -100 series had. NWA likely had similar. You'd just need to accomodate the fact that TWA's had KIFIS and I'm sure you know N467US didn't. Hominid, Several people on this thread have been unable to determine the exact flight instrumention that was installed on NWA N467US, Boeing 727-051 model, which was delivered in early 1965. However, it appears to have been just basic instrumentation including a RMI, HSI, and a state-of-the-art Attitude Indicator which did not have any Flight Director capabilities. If you run across the precise NWA 727 instrumentation please post it to this thread. Long ago on this forum a debate was happening over whether the NWA 727 had radio teletype (RTTY) gear aboard. I was nearly certain that it didn't but nearly isn't good enough. I located a retired NWA 727 pilot who was flying in 71. He confirmed: no RTTY, no HF radios. I asked while I had this gentleman in a dialog whether anyone had further questions. Nobody stepped forward. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JerryThomas 0 #26221 October 3, 2011 Bruce. I know for a fact that you made the post I am refering to. Stand by for a PM. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #26222 October 3, 2011 Jo wroteQuoteAll of this stuff you guys have done is for ought. The Cooper Case will be closed VERY soon. WE are there. We have done it. Yawn. This claim is not really worth the attention of the Tease Police, but it's a slow day on the beat. You haven't solved the case Jo. Why imply that you have? Is teasing in your DNA? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JerryThomas 0 #26223 October 3, 2011 Jo Do you have a picture of you dated back to the 70s/80s . Iv'e found a composite drawing that describes you. weight and all. Looks just like you.Only difference is this composite matches your profile to a T and not like you claim Duanes Avatar matches him. What were your aliases again.WoW! Its unbelievable. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites smokin99 0 #26224 October 3, 2011 Quote As for a control, the suggestion you've made is superb. Any volunteers for letting me place my "third eye" on your whereabouts and doings on Nov 24, 1971? Not me. I might have been doing something really stupid. I can see some problems with this suggestion. At least with DB you have a scene/place to start with. Don't know the mechanics of this stuff, but one would assume that if you're traveling back in time to see something you got to have a place in mind to go to? Like it wouldn't do any good to try and view Kennedy's assassination if you're hovering over some dive in Newark, N.J. So you'd have to know their general location at the time in order to spy on em or risk getting lost?? So you'd have to have some basic information to start with before you observe what they were doing, right? Course if this thing works um...horizontally? you could have someone on here do something very specific while you're doing your session - like open a book to a specific page. You can just pop in and look over their shoulder and post what book, what page they're on, what they're wearing, what's in their medicine cabinet. Now that would be creepy. Course you'd have to remember to allow for time zone changes. Nah, I guess as long as you go from the west coast to the east coast you'd be okay. And no cheating....... Vinny: How many fingers am I holding up? Judge Haller: Let the record show that the counselor is holding up 2 fingers. Vinny: Hey, your honor please, huh? Judge Haller: Oh, sorry. Vinny: Now. Mrs. Riley,...... and only Mrs. Riley.but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 244 #26225 October 3, 2011 Quote Jo wrote Quote All of this stuff you guys have done is for ought. The Cooper Case will be closed VERY soon. WE are there. We have done it. Yawn. This claim is not really worth the attention of the Tease Police, but it's a slow day on the beat. You haven't solved the case Jo. Why imply that you have? Is teasing in your DNA? 377 in your long patience have you not learned the difference between her tease and her gossip - she gossips here about gossip in WA and gossip she is privy to. Now she will be pissed I sprang her leak. Shall I name it!? You people are shameless. 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377 22 #26220 October 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteR99: It has info about what instruments, nav recvrs, their -100 series had. NWA likely had similar. You'd just need to accomodate the fact that TWA's had KIFIS and I'm sure you know N467US didn't. Hominid, Several people on this thread have been unable to determine the exact flight instrumention that was installed on NWA N467US, Boeing 727-051 model, which was delivered in early 1965. However, it appears to have been just basic instrumentation including a RMI, HSI, and a state-of-the-art Attitude Indicator which did not have any Flight Director capabilities. If you run across the precise NWA 727 instrumentation please post it to this thread. Long ago on this forum a debate was happening over whether the NWA 727 had radio teletype (RTTY) gear aboard. I was nearly certain that it didn't but nearly isn't good enough. I located a retired NWA 727 pilot who was flying in 71. He confirmed: no RTTY, no HF radios. I asked while I had this gentleman in a dialog whether anyone had further questions. Nobody stepped forward. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryThomas 0 #26221 October 3, 2011 Bruce. I know for a fact that you made the post I am refering to. Stand by for a PM. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #26222 October 3, 2011 Jo wroteQuoteAll of this stuff you guys have done is for ought. The Cooper Case will be closed VERY soon. WE are there. We have done it. Yawn. This claim is not really worth the attention of the Tease Police, but it's a slow day on the beat. You haven't solved the case Jo. Why imply that you have? Is teasing in your DNA? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryThomas 0 #26223 October 3, 2011 Jo Do you have a picture of you dated back to the 70s/80s . Iv'e found a composite drawing that describes you. weight and all. Looks just like you.Only difference is this composite matches your profile to a T and not like you claim Duanes Avatar matches him. What were your aliases again.WoW! Its unbelievable. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smokin99 0 #26224 October 3, 2011 Quote As for a control, the suggestion you've made is superb. Any volunteers for letting me place my "third eye" on your whereabouts and doings on Nov 24, 1971? Not me. I might have been doing something really stupid. I can see some problems with this suggestion. At least with DB you have a scene/place to start with. Don't know the mechanics of this stuff, but one would assume that if you're traveling back in time to see something you got to have a place in mind to go to? Like it wouldn't do any good to try and view Kennedy's assassination if you're hovering over some dive in Newark, N.J. So you'd have to know their general location at the time in order to spy on em or risk getting lost?? So you'd have to have some basic information to start with before you observe what they were doing, right? Course if this thing works um...horizontally? you could have someone on here do something very specific while you're doing your session - like open a book to a specific page. You can just pop in and look over their shoulder and post what book, what page they're on, what they're wearing, what's in their medicine cabinet. Now that would be creepy. Course you'd have to remember to allow for time zone changes. Nah, I guess as long as you go from the west coast to the east coast you'd be okay. And no cheating....... Vinny: How many fingers am I holding up? Judge Haller: Let the record show that the counselor is holding up 2 fingers. Vinny: Hey, your honor please, huh? Judge Haller: Oh, sorry. Vinny: Now. Mrs. Riley,...... and only Mrs. Riley.but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 244 #26225 October 3, 2011 Quote Jo wrote Quote All of this stuff you guys have done is for ought. The Cooper Case will be closed VERY soon. WE are there. We have done it. Yawn. This claim is not really worth the attention of the Tease Police, but it's a slow day on the beat. You haven't solved the case Jo. Why imply that you have? Is teasing in your DNA? 377 in your long patience have you not learned the difference between her tease and her gossip - she gossips here about gossip in WA and gossip she is privy to. Now she will be pissed I sprang her leak. Shall I name it!? You people are shameless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites