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Bruce, Please let me amplify on a couple of matters. At the time Cooper jumped, the airliner was in steady level flight at 10,000 feet and had a true airspeed of about 225 MPH.
Okay, Robert, I'll recheck my notes, but I've read in numerous places, if I can rememebr accurately, that 305 was going no faster than 200 km/hr, which would put it about 175 mph, no?
Bruce, Cooper specified that the landing gear would be left down and that the flaps would be set at 15 degrees before taking off from Seattle. The NWA aircraft performance group told the crew to fly at 170 Knots Indicated Airspeed to maximize the airliner's range (i.e., most miles per gallon of fuel).
At the 10,000 foot altitude, with the temperature and sea level presssure corrections plugged in, that 170 Knots Indicated Airspeed becomes about 195 Knots True Airspeed. Expressed in MPH, the 195 KTAS is about 225 MPH True Airspeed.
After reaching 10,000 feet altitude, the airliner tried to maintain exactly 170 KIAS for the remainder of the flight to Reno.
Bruce, I think you are somehow reading Knots (which is one nautical mile per hour) as Kilometers per hour.
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Robert99,
The C9 was successfully tested at speeds far exceeding 200 mph. I remember seeing movie footage shot at very high frame rates back in the 1980s. the camera was mounted on a payload and shot up towards the deploying canopy. I saw the film when I worked for an aerospace company doing military contracting. I've tried to find it on the Internet but no luck. Snow could probably find it.
It's not a trivial thing to exceed a 150 mph limit by 33% on a sport or commercial canopy. The energy goes up as the square of velocity. 200 mph gives nearly double the energy of the same object going 150 mph. Rrrrriiiiipppp.
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377, That's exactly why I agree with you that Cooper's selection of the military parachute was the correct choice.
I made a post that I verified was on the thread and today when I got here it is GONE! Like the one that Vickie "captured" this is real...things go POOF that I post.
I posted 3 or 4 very important pictures.
I could not find the post so here goes again.
I mentioned that 3 of these photos where sent to me by the ex-wife while the step-daughter was still alive. View these photos and think about them. She was sending me a message long before the 4th photo (the FBI photo of the tie) was ever made public.
A member of her family contacted me yrs later - in the and this is when I learned "the tie story". The individual contacting me was unaware I did NOT know the story.
I am limited by the time I can spend sitting at the computer to compose a post. I do try to read all of the posts done on any given day - just to keep abreast of what is going on and to make a short post or 2 if I feel like it.
Some of my post are choppy and have errors in them...but, that is the way it is. Hope most of you know what I am trying to say even though I mispell words and the wording sometimes is some what incoherent.
I posted 3 or 4 very important pictures.
I could not find the post so here goes again.
I mentioned that 3 of these photos where sent to me by the ex-wife while the step-daughter was still alive. View these photos and think about them. She was sending me a message long before the 4th photo (the FBI photo of the tie) was ever made public.
A member of her family contacted me yrs later - in the and this is when I learned "the tie story". The individual contacting me was unaware I did NOT know the story.
I am limited by the time I can spend sitting at the computer to compose a post. I do try to read all of the posts done on any given day - just to keep abreast of what is going on and to make a short post or 2 if I feel like it.
Some of my post are choppy and have errors in them...but, that is the way it is. Hope most of you know what I am trying to say even though I mispell words and the wording sometimes is some what incoherent.
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
Don't forget the tie and DNA.
The FBI is confident that it is Coopers DNA.
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Actually, 377, the FBI is not confident that the DNA is Cooper's. Carr was quite specific on that point in our one conversation. Also, the fingerprints are suspect.
SAC Calame says they are worthless, and Larry said the Bureau had no assurance that any of the 60 prints was DBC.
If Cooper left a print it would be on the aftstairs - per the Dream Duane had! I would have thought he would have put gloves on before going down the stairs, but who knows?
Himmelsbach made the statement - that some of the prints they found could have been there since the plane was built. I believe this meant they took lots of prints from the aftway and stairs...and he did NOT disclose where they got the 60 some latent prints. The most likely areas would have been the wheel to the aft way and around that point and on the rails.
A dream is just a dream until it becomes a nightmare!Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
Hangdiver says in part:
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'It's far more Norjack specific (picture posed on ladder) than KC posing as DBC holding a briefcase...'
That's a misquote:
I'd like to take credit for this, but it was Snow.
Imagine Norman actually was DBC and was having the last laugh on Bruce in this photo below, recreating his 727 stair exit.Wink
http://themountainnewswa.files.wordpress.com/...yden-clowning-16.jpg
It's far more Norjack specific than KC posing as DBC holding a briefcase.
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There's the quote you referenced Blevins...
At least get the current quotes correct...Please...
eta: This is an example of how myths get started...
hangdiver
"Mans got to know his limitations"
Harry Callahan
Farflung 0
Crosschecks are embraced like the idea of a sandpaper condom on this thread as they must be viewed as drudgery or utterly redundant and repetitious. I think the phrase redundant and repetitious may be an oxymoron but would prefer donning the previously mentioned device over further research on the subject.
For all the angst, writhing and tooth gnashing frustration that crosschecks create on the subject of Cooper, I can only wonder if they may have prevented things which become even more angstier, writhingly and tooth gnashingly frustraitinger had they been discovered at the source.
Nawwwwww….. I keeed, I keeed you with this thought. Carry on.
For all the angst, writhing and tooth gnashing frustration that crosschecks create on the subject of Cooper, I can only wonder if they may have prevented things which become even more angstier, writhingly and tooth gnashingly frustraitinger had they been discovered at the source.
Nawwwwww….. I keeed, I keeed you with this thought. Carry on.
The C9 was successfully tested at speeds far exceeding 200 mph. I remember seeing movie footage shot at very high frame rates back in the 1980s. the camera was mounted on a payload and shot up towards the deploying canopy. I saw the film when I worked for an aerospace company doing military contracting. I've tried to find it on the Internet but no luck. Snow could probably find it.
It's not a trivial thing to exceed a 150 mph limit by 33% on a sport or commercial canopy. The energy goes up as the square of velocity. 200 mph gives nearly double the energy of the same object going 150 mph. Rrrrriiiiipppp.
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