EVickiW 0
georger 247
But titanium is not generally used in producing currency,
Not just Ti common sponge, or Ti alloy, but pure
Ti (hi grade?). Now who uses that and where? That
sliver connects to a larger mass of the same grade
material. A chip from? Shaving?
Its important to nail down the process that produced the artifact. Tom & Allen know that -
georger 247
Anyone machining titanium is making exotic aircraft parts. That is the worst stuff to work with. Hellish to machine.
true. sometimes lots of wastage/accidents ...
damn near as bad a fluorite optics set from thje
polisher warm right under the AC next to your desk...
wooops ... Call Catalina ... one month delay.
georger 247
I have someone very-very close to meQuote377 Tie Tanium (very nice pun)
Both Sheridan and myself could have received Ti dust from the shop area when examining parts made in the shop. The machine operator would have not been allowed to wear a tie but Engineers and Aides commonly wore ties in the shop areas. We did have to wear protective glasses in some areas.
Bob
who thinks just like you - uses same exact phrases -
but Im his Dad and you arent@! Lucky me!
"Tie Tanium". You just bested Farflung. I love it.
You made my day.
georger 247
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How about a man engraving his own metal plates?...... for an offset press.....for his US Currency counterfeiting one-man-operation in a rented space in St. Paul, MN.
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ETA: Tom Kaye states on his website:
"Cooper requested "negotiable American currency". This was the most notable line to come out of the Cooper transcripts where passengers on the plane, including the flight attendants, stated that Cooper had no distinguishable accent."
I am just speculating here - the counterfeit money confiscated from Melvin in March 1971 was not "negotiable American currency"
That turn of phrase, negotiable American currency,
is interesting. (a) what other form would currency be?
Is there non-negotiable "currency"? Maybe he meant
"untampered with" ?
(b) American currency? Did he think they would bring in Yens?
Slip of the tongue for ol' Cooper!!!???
When I heard this for the very first time - long
ago - my first thought was Cubans.
But your Dad might think in those terms given
his "occupation".
Cooper might have been so nervous he was
brainlocked at the time, he got his tongue and
brain twisted up, and said it to be 'precise' ... but
it comes out superfluous?
I must also say I dont buy Toms equivalence
Candian = Midwestern? Not true at all. Those of
us with Yupper links (you & me) will know how
wrong that is ..... eh? aboot? eh?
eh Tina wheur ya from, eh? Tina replies: 'uh eh
I was aboot tenner when we moved uh to uh
Gladstone, eh? (my son does it much better)
you get my point ...
Did your Dad speak Yupper/Canadian? Eh?
And the dialect changes as you go from east to
west across Canada sans Quebec. None of it is
Midwestern by a long stretch. Stews would pick
that kind of thing up immediately -
(im really tired tonight - hope Im making sense)
EVickiW 0
QuoteWhen I heard this for the very first time - long
ago - my first thought was Cubans.
But your Dad might think in those terms given
his "occupation".
Cooper might have been so nervous he was
brainlocked at the time, he got his tongue and
brain twisted up, and said it to be 'precise' ... but
it comes out superfluous?
I must also say I dont buy Toms equivalence
Candian = Midwestern? Not true at all. Those of
us with Yupper links (you & me) will know how
wrong that is ..... eh? aboot? eh?
eh Tina wheur ya from, eh? Tina replies: 'uh eh
I was aboot tenner when we moved uh to uh
Gladstone, eh? (my son does it much better)
you get my point ...
Did your Dad speak Yupper/Canadian? Eh?
And the dialect changes as you go from east to
west across Canada sans Quebec. None of it is
Midwestern by a long stretch. Stews would pick
that kind of thing up immediately -
(im really tired tonight - hope Im making sense)
Yes, believe it ot not it made sense to me. It is called Minnesooooootan. I speak it (what I am told) however, my father was raised in Berkeley, CA. Spent time in the Midwest (Great Lakes training base) during his Naval training in 1943 - then out to the East coast for a few years in the Navy until 1947. Back in CA in San Francisco 1947 - 54 - Then San Quentin until 1957- Then ??
Then Leavenworth until Spring of 1963. He was in Las Vegas and owned a print shop next to the Flamingo. Sold the shop and moved to St. Paul, Minnesota in 1966 - Disappeared when on his way to federal court on the charges of counterfeiting and never heard from again in September 1971. He just turned 44.
AND.......Tie Tanium was penned by the #77/snowmman combo.
Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs
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Quote"Resistance is futile..."
Nope. It's E/I. Ohmmmmmmmm
377
2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
QuoteVicki wrote:
Quote"Cooper requested "negotiable American currency". This was the most notable line to come out of the Cooper transcripts where passengers on the plane, including the flight attendants, stated that Cooper had no distinguishable accent."
I am just speculating here - the counterfeit money confiscated from Melvin in March 1971 was not "negotiable American currency"
Now that's thinking out of the box.
377
Since I cannot view Tom Kaye's site, I do NOT know what all of this is about. BUT, because you are talking metal parts, etc......GUESS where Weber was working before Nov of 1971 - and I have the W-2 to prove it.
Sluggo was at my home and he saw these W-2's and the FBI took copies of the tax reports and the W-2's. Duane Weber worked for a NUT and BOLT Company. Not sure what these Nuts and Bolts were used in, but I will pull the TAX record and give you guys the name of the company so you can hash it over.
I do NOT feel like doing this tonight, but I thought someone might want to NOTE this to Tom Kaye. The bolt and nut company was in Georgia.
Someone contact me by way of my regular email and explain to me what Tom Keye has supposedly found. I can only get the gest of it from the thread.
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
georger 247
QuoteQuoteVicki wrote:
Quote"Cooper requested "negotiable American currency". This was the most notable line to come out of the Cooper transcripts where passengers on the plane, including the flight attendants, stated that Cooper had no distinguishable accent."
I am just speculating here - the counterfeit money confiscated from Melvin in March 1971 was not "negotiable American currency"
Now that's thinking out of the box.
377Since I cannot view Tom Kaye's site, I do NOT know what all of this is about. BUT, because you are talking metal parts, etc......GUESS where Weber was working before Nov of 1971 - and I have the W-2 to prove it.
Sluggo was at my home and he saw these W-2's and the FBI took copies of the tax reports and the W-2's. Duane Weber worked for a NUT and BOLT Company. Not sure what these Nuts and Bolts were used in, but I will pull the TAX record and give you guys the name of the company so you can hash it over.
I do NOT feel like doing this tonight, but I thought someone might want to NOTE this to Tom Kaye. The bolt and nut company was in Georgia.
Someone contact me by way of my regular email and explain to me what Tom Keye has supposedly found. I can only get the gest of it from the thread.
Tom, Im rolling on the floor in pain.
Im going to frame some of the email from last
night - or hire an exorcist!
As God is my witness, I will not say anything further.
Read Tom Kaye's report and sent it to Ralph for his opinion. I will post both opinions soon. jerry
QuoteQuoteQuoteVicki wrote:
Quote"Cooper requested "negotiable American currency". This was the most notable line to come out of the Cooper transcripts where passengers on the plane, including the flight attendants, stated that Cooper had no distinguishable accent."
I am just speculating here - the counterfeit money confiscated from Melvin in March 1971 was not "negotiable American currency"
Now that's thinking out of the box.
377
Sluggo was at my home and he saw these W-2's and the FBI took copies of the tax reports and the W-2's. Duane Weber worked for a NUT and BOLT Company. Not sure what these Nuts and Bolts were used in, but I will pull the TAX record and give you guys the name of the company so you can hash it over.
I do NOT feel like doing this tonight, but I thought someone might want to NOTE this to Tom Kaye. The bolt and nut company was in Georgia.
Someone contact me by way of my regular email and explain to me what Tom Keye has supposedly found. I can only get the gest of it from the thread.
Tom, Im rolling on the floor in pain.
Im going to frame some of the email from last
night - or hire an exorcist!
As God is my witness, I will not say anything further.
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I get it! Nut and Bolt Manufacturer. You are laughing at me supposedly....but who did this company manufacture Nuts and Bolts for?
I do NOT know the extent of Duane's involvement with this GA Company. Kaye left out one obvious observation about how these metal got on the tie. Himmelsbach told me the tie was neatly folded and was between two seats.
This is probably why it was not found right away and the delay in the tie being taken into evidience. Could not the particles have been transferred to the tie by contact with repair particles made to the plane? Remember I have Dumb Blonde Syndrome, but this does to me seem to be another way the titanium component could have got on the tie.
Also if Cooper had worked in the food service and delivered meals via the aft stairs - perhaps the transfer was made in that manner? Probably not.
Remember he who laughs first just might be the one who crys first.
Connecting Dots that do not connect - that is what Sluggo said a long time ago.
Sometimes it is not bad to see things the way I see them - from the mouth of a child or the mind and eyes of a 5 yrs old (or an adult with Dumb Blonde Sydrome)often comes that which others might not even conceive.
Laugh all you want Georger - but, you will NEVER take away what I was told and what I saw and what I held in my hands. I cannot erase these things from my memory and that is why I have continued this quest.
My last project regarding the early yrs of Weber - should provide some answers that will surprise a lot of you. When I found this - it was like a flash back into the past....just waiting for confirmation. The FBI does not talk to the Dumb Blonde so I have continued on my own doing what they did NOT do regarding the background of Duane Weber.
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
Jo Not again. Are you saying that you're going to use Tom's report to build a new Story and try to implicate, Duane as a Canadian. Yep! that seems like what you're trying to do. How many peoples writing's are you going to try and use in order to make up more stories to implicate Duane in this case. i thought when I exsposed your use of Max Gunther's Book!you would stop. Remember the page 1109 and 1110. You tried to claim you invinted the Bing Crosby and Ben Garzzara look alike story.You even had someone re draw the composite to back up your stories and your Avatar. Pasternick bought it. Sorry no one else will. Jerry
Farflung 0
You can imagine my disappointment on this subject….. but I thought it worth sharing before anyone else thinks titanium is as magic as Unicorn tears.
http://www.titanwheeltech.com/order-nipples/
Yep it’s true you can satisfy your exotic metal fetish for $45. Some other bicycle parts are made of the stuff because it has ONE beguiling feature……. It’s lighter than steel. That’s all, nothing James Bond or Viagraesque about the stuff.
As pek771 pointed out it is a nightmare to work which adds cost to the final product. The government predicted this crap would be as common as aluminum by some time past. You can practically see my face frozen in shock over the fact that Uncle Sam dicked that prediction. Yep, we aren’t travelling at hypersonic speeds which would require a vehicle skinned with the heat impervious material and are still using the time tested ‘6061’ and those other variants which sound almost as cool and chick magnety.
This leaves titanium being used in engines because of the heat thing and lavatories because of the pee pee thing. Besides being lighter than steel, the stuff is bullet proof against corrosion, unlike aluminum which will get eaten by long term exposure to urine. Titanium is just like stainless steel in that regard, but lighter so it gets the nod in the airborne boom boom room.
There you have it in a nutshell. Need something lighter than, and equally corrosion resistant to stainless? Choose titanium. Need a material that does not change or degrade in environments of intense heat? Choose titanium. Need to impress a chick with an exotic metal? Choose aluminum and lie, you know, act like a man. At least try to learn something about titanium and avoid having to rely on someone trying to shove whatever down your throat. I’m here to help.
http://www.titanwheeltech.com/order-nipples/
Yep it’s true you can satisfy your exotic metal fetish for $45. Some other bicycle parts are made of the stuff because it has ONE beguiling feature……. It’s lighter than steel. That’s all, nothing James Bond or Viagraesque about the stuff.
As pek771 pointed out it is a nightmare to work which adds cost to the final product. The government predicted this crap would be as common as aluminum by some time past. You can practically see my face frozen in shock over the fact that Uncle Sam dicked that prediction. Yep, we aren’t travelling at hypersonic speeds which would require a vehicle skinned with the heat impervious material and are still using the time tested ‘6061’ and those other variants which sound almost as cool and chick magnety.
This leaves titanium being used in engines because of the heat thing and lavatories because of the pee pee thing. Besides being lighter than steel, the stuff is bullet proof against corrosion, unlike aluminum which will get eaten by long term exposure to urine. Titanium is just like stainless steel in that regard, but lighter so it gets the nod in the airborne boom boom room.
There you have it in a nutshell. Need something lighter than, and equally corrosion resistant to stainless? Choose titanium. Need a material that does not change or degrade in environments of intense heat? Choose titanium. Need to impress a chick with an exotic metal? Choose aluminum and lie, you know, act like a man. At least try to learn something about titanium and avoid having to rely on someone trying to shove whatever down your throat. I’m here to help.
That turn of phrase, negotiable American currency,
is interesting. (a) what other form would currency be?
Is there non-negotiable "currency"? Maybe he meant
"untampered with" ?
(b) American currency? Did he think they would bring in Yens?
Slip of the tongue for ol' Cooper!!!???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs