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You just need MORE. Or the basics, anyway. These three would be a good start: Chute experience (proven), location at time of crime (proven), spending habits within 12 months after the crime (also proven).
I have the tax reports from 1969 and they show virtually no income for a couple of yrs and yet 2 new cars where purchased and a Trailer on a lot and he loaned his BOSS - $5,000 on a note....How does a man who only made a few hundred dollars loan his BOSS the next yr - 5K? I have the IOU.
I have mentioned these things over the yrs. but I don't go into detail. How in 1979 after Duane and I returned from WA did he purchase not one car but 2 others. One of the vehicles I had NO knowledge of until a smart Cookie caught it in the tax report?
So you see the paper money trail is there just like with KC only Duane basically bought things and gave people money. He was NOT a good investor and the money was HOT. He could only spend what he WASHED in Tahoe and Vegas (he and the exwife went to Vegas). He and I went to Tahoe.
Some how 50K came into existence when Duane went on dialysis. No one can explain this and he used it over a 5 yr period of time until his death. I have also explained about a safe deposit box I could NOT find information on from 1980 to 1990. Only the FBI could access those records and they refused to do so (Carr is the one who flat out said NO).
KC's transaction were to Transparent for Cooper. You have no concept of the economy during those times or you would NOT continue to boast about KC's investments and loans to individuals. I did live and work during those yrs - so I know how it was. I was frugal and I put away money, but my then spouse spent every cent he could lay his hands on - always chasing easy money with pyramid schemes and why I divorced him in in early 1972.
When I got rid of the baggage I made it with 2 kids and myself working a secretarial and accounting job. Remember that back then - if the guy didn't pay the child support there was no way to get it - so the women worked 2 and 3 jobs. I had savings when I married Duane about 7 yrs later and owned my car (used) - only 2 yrs old when I bought it. Now go chew on them apples. A single woman in those days making it on her own with 2 kids and child support checks that usually bounce. I made sure I had money in the bank to cover his check when they bounced and I always had a savings account.
When I say I had only $5 to take myself out for my birthday in 1977 is because I saved 10 cents out of every dollar I made. I paid my bills and put money away before spending it on myself or something frivolous. My children and the bills and saving came first. I do remember a couple of times I had to hit the savings hard because I got laid off, but I that is why one saves money.
KC did not have kids and let me tell you if I was able to survive with 2 kids and I made a lot less than KC (women didn't make much in those days) - KC was doing well.. My not making the financials available is my business, but the paper trail is there.
Living in WA and making a big show of money you could not support - would be a very bad move during the yrs KC loaned individuals $'s and bought things. KC lived frugally and that is obvious...but no kids to support.
Men making what KC did sometimes had wives who did not work and yet these guys put their kids thru college and bought homes and lived well. Track KC's life and income with others of the day and see how they lived...and that they did well.
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I should just have ignored Blevin's post. NO ONE has mentioned Wenz or Wentz and it is high time you guys think about those names and the FBI needs to do their thing.
Think Smoke jumpers and the forestry. Think the old fashion re-hab before they had programs to do this. Think Apples and remember the secret lies in Coure'd Alene.
Think Apples, Lillian, Doc Severinsen, OR and ID. The FBI need to look for Wenz or Wentz as suspect. Why the hell do you guys think the first place the FBI looked was smokejumpers.
Perhaps they got a lead that went NO where because the man went POOF! Just like some of my posts - right?
Think Smoke jumpers and the forestry. Think the old fashion re-hab before they had programs to do this. Think Apples and remember the secret lies in Coure'd Alene.
Think Apples, Lillian, Doc Severinsen, OR and ID. The FBI need to look for Wenz or Wentz as suspect. Why the hell do you guys think the first place the FBI looked was smokejumpers.
Perhaps they got a lead that went NO where because the man went POOF! Just like some of my posts - right?
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You just need MORE. Or the basics, anyway. These three would be a good start: Chute experience (proven), location at time of crime (proven), spending habits within 12 months after the crime (also proven).
I have the tax reports from 1969 and they show virtually no income for a couple of yrs and yet 2 new cars where purchased and a Trailer on a lot and he loaned his BOSS - $5,000 on a note....How does a man who only made a few hundred dollars loan his BOSS the next yr - 5K? I have the IOU.
I have mentioned these things over the yrs. but I don't go into detail. How in 1979 after Duane and I returned from WA did he purchase not one car but 2 others. One of the vehicles I had NO knowledge of until a smart Cookie caught it in the tax report?
So you see the paper money trail is there just like with KC only Duane basically bought things and gave people money. He was NOT a good investor and the money was HOT. He could only spend what he WASHED in Tahoe and Vegas (he and the exwife went to Vegas). He and I went to Tahoe.
Some how 50K came into existence when Duane went on dialysis. No one can explain this and he used it over a 5 yr period of time until his death. I have also explained about a safe deposit box I could NOT find information on from 1980 to 1990. Only the FBI could access those records and they refused to do so (Carr is the one who flat out said NO).
KC's transaction were to Transparent for Cooper. You have no concept of the economy during those times or you would NOT continue to boast about KC's investments and loans to individuals. I did live and work during those yrs - so I know how it was. I was frugal and I put away money, but my then spouse spent every cent he could lay his hands on - always chasing easy money with pyramid schemes and why I divorced him in in early 1972.
When I got rid of the baggage I made it with 2 kids and myself working a secretarial and accounting job. Remember that back then - if the guy didn't pay the child support there was no way to get it - so the women worked 2 and 3 jobs. I had savings when I married Duane about 7 yrs later and owned my car (used) - only 2 yrs old when I bought it. Now go chew on them apples. A single woman in those days making it on her own with 2 kids and child support checks that usually bounce. I made sure I had money in the bank to cover his check when they bounced and I always had a savings account.
When I say I had only $5 to take myself out for my birthday in 1977 is because I saved 10 cents out of every dollar I made. I paid my bills and put money away before spending it on myself or something frivolous. My children and the bills and saving came first. I do remember a couple of times I had to hit the savings hard because I got laid off, but I that is why one saves money.
KC did not have kids and let me tell you if I was able to survive with 2 kids and I made a lot less than KC (women didn't make much in those days) - KC was doing well.. My not making the financials available is my business, but the paper trail is there.
Living in WA and making a big show of money you could not support - would be a very bad move during the yrs KC loaned individuals $'s and bought things. KC lived frugally and that is obvious...but no kids to support.
Men making what KC did sometimes had wives who did not work and yet these guys put their kids thru college and bought homes and lived well. Track KC's life and income with others of the day and see how they lived...and that they did well.
Jo, While I am sympathetic to your plight in the 1970s, things were also tough for single fellows then. Strong drink and fast women were NOT cheap then either. But I also survived.
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Riddles, secrets, unfulfilled promises, teases... Yawn.
How about just putting your cards on the table?
You truly seem unable to simply disclose. It's always a hint, a puzzle, or a promise of things to come.
Remember your recent promise to disclose blockbuster evidence that the FBI couldn't ignore? Days turned into weeks turned into months and you produce absolutely nothing, just more riddles and teases.
Jo, I don't think you are a con artist, but you operate like one. You lure people in with spectacular claims, but never ever deliver. You keep suckers on the hook with promises of great things just around the corner. Instead of asking for our money you ask for our attention, our patience or our assistance in chasing phantoms.
Carry on. We all know the drill.
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QuoteThink Smoke jumpers and the forestry. Think the old fashion re-hab before they had programs to do this. Think Apples and remember the secret lies in Coure'd Alene.
Riddles, secrets, unfulfilled promises, teases... Yawn.
How about just putting your cards on the table?
You truly seem unable to simply disclose. It's always a hint, a puzzle, or a promise of things to come.
Remember your recent promise to disclose blockbuster evidence that the FBI couldn't ignore? Days turned into weeks turned into months and you produce absolutely nothing, just more riddles and teases.
Jo, I don't think you are a con artist, but you operate like one. You lure people in with spectacular claims, but never ever deliver. You keep suckers on the hook with promises of great things just around the corner. Instead of asking for our money you ask for our attention, our patience or our assistance in chasing phantoms.
Carry on. We all know the drill.
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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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There are some piles of something associated with that comment but I don’t think it came out of a dredge.
Why did the previous mention of this subject spark another curt, charmless and worthless response georger? What was your point then (13 June)? Why was MY posting of the alluvial fans on Tena Bar ‘old news’ and your posting yesterday fresh as a daisy? The smell is oddly familiar too but not like it came out of a dredge.
I mean the fact that ‘old news’ can be found in…. wait for it…. little longer….. this is another intellectual gem….. PRIOR posts! Really georger! Old news can be found in things published prior, as in before the present time, thus making the search in future posts futile? Thanks for the tip ‘Captain Timetravel’.
Fact is, I did search the forum for ‘Alluvial Fan’ and found nothing about the dredge formations at Tena Bar. But I’m just a monkey and not as capable as you, so I just let it be.
Why did the previous mention of this subject spark another curt, charmless and worthless response georger? What was your point then (13 June)? Why was MY posting of the alluvial fans on Tena Bar ‘old news’ and your posting yesterday fresh as a daisy? The smell is oddly familiar too but not like it came out of a dredge.
I mean the fact that ‘old news’ can be found in…. wait for it…. little longer….. this is another intellectual gem….. PRIOR posts! Really georger! Old news can be found in things published prior, as in before the present time, thus making the search in future posts futile? Thanks for the tip ‘Captain Timetravel’.
Fact is, I did search the forum for ‘Alluvial Fan’ and found nothing about the dredge formations at Tena Bar. But I’m just a monkey and not as capable as you, so I just let it be.
georger 244
QuoteThere are some piles of something associated with that comment but I don’t think it came out of a dredge.
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Adjust your grid, Ichabod.
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QuoteI have the tax reports from 1969 and they show virtually no income for a couple of yrs and yet 2 new cars where purchased and a Trailer on a lot and he loaned his BOSS - $5,000 on a note....How does a man who only made a few hundred dollars loan his BOSS the next yr - 5K? I have the IOU.
You see Jo, the problem with this - as I have mentioned before regarding this issue - is that Duane was a thief. We all know that. So I don't doubt such a large amount of money compared to his income was the proceeds of crime, but did it have to be Cooper? Not at all. In fact I would say the amounts are too low. It might be circumstantial evidence that Duane was a thief, but it's no evidence at all to prove he was Cooper.
KC on the other hand, as far as we know, did not engage in criminal activity. So prima facie amount vs income ... makes it a bit more likely in KC's case than Duane's. But just a bit. I don't think either of them was Cooper.
Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.
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Cost of Living 1971
How Much things cost in 1971
Yearly Inflation Rate USA 4.3%
Yearly Inflation Rate UK 8.6%
Year End Close Dow Jones Industrial Average 890
Average Cost of new house $25,250.00
Average Income per year $10,600.00
Average Monthly Rent $150.00
Cost of a gallon of Gas 40 cents
Datsun 1200 Sports Coupe $1,866.00
United States postage Stamp 8 cents
Ladies 2 piece knit suites $9.98
Movie Ticket $1.50
http://www.thepeoplehistory.com/1971.html
How Much things cost in 1971
Yearly Inflation Rate USA 4.3%
Yearly Inflation Rate UK 8.6%
Year End Close Dow Jones Industrial Average 890
Average Cost of new house $25,250.00
Average Income per year $10,600.00
Average Monthly Rent $150.00
Cost of a gallon of Gas 40 cents
Datsun 1200 Sports Coupe $1,866.00
United States postage Stamp 8 cents
Ladies 2 piece knit suites $9.98
Movie Ticket $1.50
http://www.thepeoplehistory.com/1971.html
Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.
attached -
A website has recently described the dredge pile
at Tina Bar - there were in fact two such piles,
deposited between 8/19 - 8/25 1974, explained
in an FBI report. See attached.