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377. Jamie Cooper's Father was not the Hyjacker. He is just trying to make a name for hisself for finacial purposes and 15 minutes of fame. Jerry
Blevins: The Amboy Chute is of no value. Iv'e seen it the detoration was not significant enough to have been from the time frame in question. Still why do you still post on dropzone your book and your suspect is a failure.What surprises me is that a man of your intelligence would even think that a Airline pilot could have been Cooper. All airline pilots knew how tio open the rear stair door. Still you caim that your suspect was troo Stupid to Know this. WHY?. Better yet why did you even write the book.(Money) . You have never believed anything that you have published in your book." You want Proof: ,All you, or! anyone else has to do is read your past post.If any one wants to question my statement all they have to do is read all of Blevins past post.I know for a fact he, even! credits jo Webber's candidate as a posibility of being Cooper. Still. A lot of BS! Jerry PS Blevins , If you want to do a real story on a true suspect that realy could be Cooper ! Do it on Vicki Wilsons Father. He fits the profile and he has not been seen since 71. this Type of suspect is who we all should be looking for.
About the comic: I told History Channel that the comic was an interesting coincidence and nothing more. I followed that up by saying that we now knew KC did NOT see it on Shemya. In the original version of the you-know-what-with-a-cardboard-cover, we DID.
You NEVER did in anything to acknowledge the DZ and those who made YOU aware of the information about the comic information being erroneous.
Yet, it is YOU who continues to badger me about making records PUBLIC regarding Duane Weber's financials.
There are those on this thread who are tired of hearing my story and what they consider to be teases, but YOU take the cake when you come back and ACT like you did this or that and YOU NEVER acknowledge to the public when you have made errors and nor do you acknowledge who was responsible for finding your errors. YOU make it ALL about YOU.
How does it feel to get a little of what you have been dishing out.
You can't even acknowledge how you acquired the knowledge that allows you to write a book about a subject you went into having little knowledge of. You also do NOT acknowledge even in the thread - that you acquired certain knowledge and information from the participants of this thread, AFTER you did the first version of your book, you rewrote the book. YET, you have not publically acknowledged this thread and the jumpers and fact keepers who participate in the DZ.
This makes you as phoney as a counterfit $20 supposedly signed by Cooper.
Start acknowledging your sources to the public and in this forum or someone is going to do it for you in public and you might not be too happy with that. It won't be me, but there are those who lurk here that just might call you out publically.
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
Jo. Anything that you tell anyone about this case involving you or Duane is a Lie/Fabrication. Guess what you can't even blaim it on memory loss or false memories due to age. You have been telling these lies of yours for too many years.You Know what you have done and what you are doing.Jerry
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Jerry,
Simple question:
Did the Amboy canopy have risers? If so what type of metal fitting was on the harness side of the risers? Was it a Capewell fitting?
377
Simple question:
Did the Amboy canopy have risers? If so what type of metal fitting was on the harness side of the risers? Was it a Capewell fitting?
377
2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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The same way a skydiver can identify a chute by attachments or design, so can others in regard to their hobbies. Like suggested about the appraisers on Antiques Roadshow (no threat to my obvious Hunkyness that I watch it).
So here’s as far as I could get and need help (code for smokin99 and her ilk) with this little crosscheck (gasp!).
There is some ambiguity about the date Cooper’s tie was manufactured and or sold (as in a single interview from the 70’s). So I thought I would begin with a little corporate history on this piece of haberdashery.
Prepare to be bored stiff. The ‘Pennys’ logo on Cooper’s tie was used from 1964 to 1971 and gives a rough first cut at the vintage of the tie. I know, big help that they quit using the logo in 1971. The logo previous was ‘Penny’s’ (with an apostrophe) and after was ‘JCPennys’ in the Helvetica font. Isn’t that fascinating?
Next I blundered upon some other Towncraft items which were dated in the mid 60’s and had a different design than the Cooper tie Towncraft logo (see attach- Tie One On).
Then I realized I may be too technical with this label. The website below has several examples of Towncraft garments and some associated dates (decades) which have the later design in the 70’s which could (just could) narrow the manufacture window to 1970 to 1971 if the appraisals of the clothing is accurate. One of the later Towncraft labels was identified with the 60’s so it may all be moot.
http://www.vintagetrends.com/search/thumbnails.asp
(search – Towncraft) to view 42 label examples and dates.
Perhaps some experts can tell by color or pattern what year some of these things were produced (who knows).
So here’s as far as I could get and need help (code for smokin99 and her ilk) with this little crosscheck (gasp!).
There is some ambiguity about the date Cooper’s tie was manufactured and or sold (as in a single interview from the 70’s). So I thought I would begin with a little corporate history on this piece of haberdashery.
Prepare to be bored stiff. The ‘Pennys’ logo on Cooper’s tie was used from 1964 to 1971 and gives a rough first cut at the vintage of the tie. I know, big help that they quit using the logo in 1971. The logo previous was ‘Penny’s’ (with an apostrophe) and after was ‘JCPennys’ in the Helvetica font. Isn’t that fascinating?
Next I blundered upon some other Towncraft items which were dated in the mid 60’s and had a different design than the Cooper tie Towncraft logo (see attach- Tie One On).
Then I realized I may be too technical with this label. The website below has several examples of Towncraft garments and some associated dates (decades) which have the later design in the 70’s which could (just could) narrow the manufacture window to 1970 to 1971 if the appraisals of the clothing is accurate. One of the later Towncraft labels was identified with the 60’s so it may all be moot.
http://www.vintagetrends.com/search/thumbnails.asp
(search – Towncraft) to view 42 label examples and dates.
Perhaps some experts can tell by color or pattern what year some of these things were produced (who knows).
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This is interesting...if this is Jo's Duane, then looks like he was no stranger to the St. Pete authorities before the 1957 episode......
From the Canton Repository, Canton, OH
Jan 31, 1949
London, O. - .....Duane Weber, 25, who left the farm's honor camp (smokin sez: this would be the London Prison Farm, London, Ohio) last November, was arrested in St. Petersburg, Fla., for petit larceny and returned here. He was sentenced from Cleveland in 1947 to serve one to seven years for grand larceny. He will have to serve two years extra.
This excerpt was the third paragraph in an article about another fugitive who had turned himself back in to the farm. Looks like this is saying that Duane was sentenced to the farm for grand larceny, 1-7 years in Cleveland, Ohio in 1947 - went awol or was on parole in November 1948 - and was sent back after he got arrested for petty larceny in St. Pete in January, 1949?? Jeez, that boy just couldn't keep from getting caught.
Anyway..... for grins, I googled the London Prison farm and found this:
The Department of Corrections originally housed BCI in the basement of the Ohio State Penitentiary in Columbus, Ohio until a fire and subsequent threat of riot by inmates in 1930 forced a move to the London Prison Farm.[1] During those early years, inmate labor performed most of the work. Interestingly, archives show these inmates reviewing, indexing and sorting fingerprint records. In the 1940s, BCI also had a printing press, and used inmate labor to produce the book entitled, "The Science of Fingerprint Classification: As Taught and Used in the Ohio State Bureau of Identification and Investigation."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_Bureau_of_Criminal_Identification_and_Investigation
lol...talk about letting the foxes guard the hen house 
but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill
This is interesting...if this is Jo's Duane, then looks like he was no stranger to the St. Pete authorities before the 1957 episode......
From the Canton Repository, Canton, OH
Jan 31, 1949
London, O. - .....Duane Weber, 25, who left the farm's honor camp (smokin sez: this would be the London Prison Farm, London, Ohio) last November, was arrested in St. Petersburg, Fla., for petit larceny and returned here. He was sentenced from Cleveland in 1947 to serve one to seven years for grand larceny. He will have to serve two years extra.
That article will need some explaining. Duane Weber was arrested in ST. PETE in 1957 while on probation from SanQuentin/Folsom.
So was Duane arrested 2 times in St. Pete (Treasure Island)?
In 1943 Duane's parents live in Ca. near Huntington Bch. Yet, you are saying he was sentenced in 1947 in Cleveland. Yet, there are records in CA. that stated he was sentenced in 1944 to McNeil, and the records show he was released 6 months later - but instead was place in a special program per his sister and brother.
Since the missing yrs on Duane are July of 1945 to 1949. I will note as I have noted before that the San Quentin and Folsom records shows the Ohio issue you stated was served concurrently with the California issues.
Per the San Quentin and Folsom file it is to be concluded from the prison file that Duane SKIPPED OUT before he actually served his time in Ohio. The Ohio incident was served concurrently with the CA. incident. Added 2 yrs to his CA stay and may be why they moved him from Folsom to San Quentin for his last 2 yrs.
The missing yrs on Duane are from July of 1945 to 1949. The only way I can see the family doing this was Duane was placed in an honor camp - and then escaped or ran away because he ends up in CA. The 1949 sentencing was llsted in this thread.
The court records send him to San Quentin and Folsom in 1949.
If Duane was on a honor farm in Ohio in 47 perhaps they sent him to the N.W. because of the family OR maybe he escaped! What stand out to me is the story about 2 guys escaping and one is killed (a story Duane told me about 2 guys and I since learned he had told me about his life in 3rd person perhaps the one that got away was himself). Could it be Ohio sent him to the N.W. because of Family issues and Duane was placed on an Honor farm in the N.W. or he just hung out in the N.W.
When you guys find this London Ohio file you will find he either escaped or was sent to the N.W. and this was arranged by family members out of Chicago or Ohio. Perhaps using the name of Wenz or Wentz - his grandmothers maiden name.
When Duane was arrested in 1957 in St. Pete perhaps what he claimed about the list of people in his possession was true. He told the athorities knew the people on the list - "Ask Them, They know me".
His Uncle had a winter home or resort home there. His name would be Lyman and his wife's name Naomi. After Lyman died Naomi remarried and moved to St. Pete. She died there as did her new husband.
This is the only thing that would explain his being arrested twice in St. Pete and is logical.
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