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I now ask only this:
How do YOU think the cash got to Tena Bar?
Pretend this is a Federal Grand Jury. You've been granted immunity. You can't dodge the question or plead the fifth. You can't even have counsel present. If you don't answer you will soon be making some very close friends in a place with free room and board.
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Quote\The Fazio's also remembeed the money shards at the high water line and relayed this to Larry Carr and me in 2009. .
Strange. Fazios told Bruce and others - no money shards, anywhere.
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A correction is required. I have posted here many times that Al Fazio told me that he saw money shards along the high-tide line. Richard Fazio never confirmed that, as far as I know.
Al Fazio adamantly told me numerous times that the FBI never found a single shard buried in the sand at any depth, anywhere on the beach. Further, Al is convinced the three bundles washed-up via natural means, and that the shards found on the tide line came from the three bundles and were roughed-up in wave action as they got buried/uncovered in the sand.
However, Al was late to the party, and his time-line or recall - or my understanding of what he said - is mixed up and certainly needs clarifying. Nevertheless, Al told me that he had no knowledge of the Ingram money find when it happened, and he went off to a cattle auction. By the time he came back the feds had already ringed his property with yellow tape, and agents blocked his pick-up truck and cattle trailer from entering. It took a little doing to get clearence for Al to drive onto his property, and after he did he went to the beach, was asked to procure back-hoes and such, and did so. Soon after he started digging.
That said, I distinctly recall Al telling me that the cattle auction was on a Sunday, which was the day that Brian found the money. I'm not sure exactly what day the feds showed up on the beach and roped off the area - Monday or Tues - but certainly they were digging by Wednesday. So, there are some gaps here, and any clarification anyone can provide is appreciated.
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QuoteSo it seems logical to me that the crew would be sticking as close as possible to 170 KIAS even if no one anywhere mentioned a "target speed". Does that seem logical to you?
It is logical that they would stick to 170KIAS over the vast majority of the distance. It is illogical that they would nowhere go slower. It is logical that they would try to help Cooper so he would not get mad and blow them up, and would get off their plane.
My optimum driving speed on a road trip is about 60 mph. If ever I could make myself try to keep it that slow, I would go faster or slower at times, but it would have only a small impact on my range or gas usage as long as I departed from my optimum speed for only a small portion of the whole trip.
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QuoteIt is logical that they would try to help Cooper...
Didn't Rat want to airdrop a Thanksgiving meal to the Dungeness Crabs lurking off Clatsop Spit?
They'd have picked Cooper to the bone. Those Dungies don't leave much. Ask Amazon.
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At one point an FBI agent announced that all the money found at T-bar was from a single bundle.
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QuoteQuoteIt is logical that they would try to help Cooper...
Didn't Rat want to airdrop a Thanksgiving meal to the Dungeness Crabs lurking off Clatsop Spit?
They'd have picked Cooper to the bone. Those Dungies don't leave much. Ask Amazon.
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I still have a dozen of those Clatsop Spit Dungeness sitting in the freezer that came from right in front of Bouy 20 down to Bouy 14..... NUMMERS.
Fishing for sturgeon anywhere near there is damn near impossible most of the year due to the amount of crab. You cannot keep bait on a hook there to save your life. It's also amazing what they can do to anything that you put in a bait well in a crab pot since they are exceedingly numerous out there. It seems most are juveniles since there are several places along that side of the river from Hammond to the spit itself that has a LOT of females that are full of eggs at times of the year, so plenty of young crab. Shall we say they are well fed there?
Another good place is all along the north side of the South Jetty around the corner from Social Security Beach, but only an idiot would take a boat into that maelstrom since it is always breaking surf over in the sandy shifting shallows by the huge jetty rocks.
Baker Bay on the north side of the river near Ilwaco also has great numbers of crab.
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That Tena Bar money is so damned frustrating!!!! You really messed things up Brian.
Can't we just ignore the decrepit cash and proceed with our favorite theories about the flight path and exit point?
While we are at it, forget the placard too.
Now then, let's get on with our important work.
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Quoteonly an idiot would take a boat into that maelstrom...
Sometimes, when big swells are running, that comment applies to the whole region around the Columbia River Bar. I've been scared real bad there a few times. Imagine a boat loaded down with 80,000 lbs of fish and a top speed of 7.8 knots.
There are no marine reserve or AAD equivalents that will save you if you mess up running that bar. It's like BASE jumping.
So Amazon, what's your Tena Bar theory?
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Now the Cooper money has been suggested (described with faux authority) to have been bound in bundles containing somewhere less than 100 bills to 1,000 strapped with rubber bands or paper straps or both. It makes no difference which, as it will be discounted as trivia and irrelevant so there is no need for any accurate measurement. There is just as much probability the money was wrapped in a single ‘mother pack’ of all $200,000 which was bound with an inner tube from the front tire of a Harley.
Same is true for the aircraft’s ground track, it could be anywhere from center line of V-23 to several hundred thousand miles off course since it is all a matter of trivia when you want the plane to be at point X at H hour so that matches with what is bouncing around in that topsy-turvy hat holder.
Whether you choose Cooperhenge, Cooper Island or the Northwest lines of Peru, you can always change things around. I’m going to worship Tina. Not because she holds any theory or information, I just really like looking at her.
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QuoteWhat’s great about the Cooper story is how so many truths can exist because there is evidence to back every faith system till mortal combat decides the one true answer. Sorta like how the Druids and Easter Islanders got their asses kicked because worshiping rock is simply not right. But this was before science where illness and earthquakes were blamed on witches and gremlins.
Now the Cooper money has been suggested (described with faux authority) to have been bound in bundles containing somewhere less than 100 bills to 1,000 strapped with rubber bands or paper straps or both. It makes no difference which, as it will be discounted as trivia and irrelevant so there is no need for any accurate measurement. There is just as much probability the money was wrapped in a single ‘mother pack’ of all $200,000 which was bound with an inner tube from the front tire of a Harley.
Same is true for the aircraft’s ground track, it could be anywhere from center line of V-23 to several hundred thousand miles off course since it is all a matter of trivia when you want the plane to be at point X at H hour so that matches with what is bouncing around in that topsy-turvy hat holder.
Whether you choose Cooperhenge, Cooper Island or the Northwest lines of Peru, you can always change things around. I’m going to worship Tina. Not because she holds any theory or information, I just really like looking at her.
Could not have said it better, myself -
THEY and THEM will be back with their monoliths
and radios soon to correct mistakes made with
Homoerectus. The forum and Citizen Sleuths should
now turn their attentsun to predicting the date.
Its all in the wing dams and radios!
http://archive.ncsa.illinois.edu/Classes/MATH198/tow
nsend/math.html
http://sci-toys.com/scitoys/scitoys/radio/radio.html
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QuoteI take the will into the office. Because I am NOT on the box name I cannot enter the room when they unlock it. They return with a magazine - and I questioned if this was all that was in the box. This is where he had put the issue of Soldier of Fortune Magazine - about "The Man Who Knew To Much". I did NOT understand this.
Jo,
Did you hand them Duanes safe deposit box key?
The bank can't open it without two keys, their key and the customer key. I remember in some criminal case where the cops got a search warrant for a safe deposit box and the bank had to drill out the customer lock cylinder.
Something sounds"off" about the story about the bank opening it outside of your presence. Banks have all sorts of procedures to protect against claims that they have pilfered box contents. I can't see them exposing themselves to such a claim by insisting on opening it out of your sight.
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There was the receipt, I had the will and I can't remember if I found a key or not - I really do NOT remember if I had a key, but I was NOT allowed to be in the room when it was opened.
My name was NOT on the box, but they never told me if someone elses name was on it.
This is what happened! I have no answers for you - I have the receipt of the box and the magazine. The bank is no longer there...was bought by someone else and I do NOT know how they handle boxes.
Im waiting on the last clue from you -
everyone else's explanation? who (everyone else)?
Are you talking about Jerry and Blevins? Who is this
"everyone else". Your Honor - objection. He's
badgering the hippopontamus and the homeless
guy.
BTW, you knew it was Tosaw represented the
Ingrams, eh? Tosaw got some bills.
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