DB Cooper

[skyjack71 0]

The Eugene connection is bugging me. Duane's stepdaughter who told me she knew Duane was Cooper was in Eugene before she died. She was living with some other addicts trying to find her way back to - she never made it. I don't believe she took her son with her and may have left him with her mother. It was after she got back from Eugene she OD'ed....just a few months after she told me SHE KNEW Duane was Cooper.

I never knew why she went to Eugene other than a "guy". Someone in the thread suggested she was in prison there. She was 16 in 1971 so she would have been born around the mid 50's, She was in her late 40's when she was in Eugene. Not really good with the numbers anymore. I know her mother wrote me while Lana was in Eugene - and will pull the letter.

This is the only Eugene connection I know of regarding Duane and her mother (Duane's EX) had kept some of Duane's things - wonder why the FBI never asked her for DNA items?

I just do not believe that the FBI would commit themselves until they did this publically - and how could they get proof so fast. Surely LD had prints on file - as purported he was in the service and was rowdy - so surely prints exist to check with prints that could be in a suitcase or on any items within. Otherwise they assume they are LD's prints.

Curious as to the contents of the suitcase. Any clues? Any pictures?

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[JerryThomas 0]

Jo according to Marla, Curtis Ng is going to close the case regardless because her Uncle looks like Cooper drawings.I have heard this from 3 seperate source's tonight. Jerry

[pek771 0]

Jerry, are you saying the FBI is throwing in the towel?

Did they just realize there is no evidence, and any evidence that does exist is refutable?

Somewhere, Cooper laughs.

[JerryThomas 0]

If what Marla is saying is true. Curtis Ng is convinced that LD was Cooper and is going to close the case because he looks like the drawings.She also said that if the finger prints come back later as a match that will be enough for a conviction. I talked to Ralph he said he didn't think Curtis could close the case that this decission had to be made at the head office and not a field office.Still what concerns me is why would Marla be saying this if she did not get it from Curtis.Yet when I talked to Curtis this afternoon he would not confirm or deny this story, he only said that LD could be Cooper.Jerry

[JerryThomas 0]

Marla is being Called the Cooper Queen because her story is so unbelievable.If Curtis does try to dismiss this case for the reasons that has been given his career may very will be over.Jerry

[georger 245]

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Jerry, are you saying the FBI is throwing in the towel?

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Yes. Its been rumored (in the works) for some
time. That is one of the reasons Galen hasnt
published yet. I personally believe Tom and Gray
heard the rumor some time ago also. Gray knew he
had to get published before the end of 011! Tom ?
Gray pushed for a symposium to close it all out, but
also to spur new public interest near the 40th.

There are people who want this turned over to the
public in-total with the case legally closed.

I am surprised 377 is feining lack of knowledge?

Not surprised at all JT was caught unaware -

xx have been living with this distinct possibility
for almost two years. This is the reason (for those
who wondered) why all efforts on my part suddenly
stopped in the early Spring of 011.

Its not definate but it is a distinct possibility. Let's
wait and see what happens but dont be surprised
or disappointed if the case is closed and the matter
is pushed into the public sector as a cult affair. It
may be time to move on.

[georger 245]

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Marla is being Called the Cooper Queen because her story is so unbelievable.If Curtis does try to dismiss this case for the reasons that has been given his career may very will be over.Jerry

BULL SHIT! LAUGHABLE!

[JerryThomas 0]

Gray is just as shocked as every one else. Geoger your theory, as usual is full of holes. Jerry

[georger 245]

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If what Marla is saying is true. Curtis Ng is convinced that LD was Cooper and is going to close the case because he looks like the drawings.She also said that if the finger prints come back later as a match that will be enough for a conviction. I talked to Ralph he said he didn't think Curtis could close the case that this decission had to be made at the head office and not a field office.Still what concerns me is why would Marla be saying this if she did not get it from Curtis.Yet when I talked to Curtis this afternoon he would not confirm or deny this story, he only said that LD could be Cooper.Jerry

Hmm. Usually the case agent will not answer questions or talk to outsiders by phone. This is generally handled by the assigned media agents. However, Marla could have met with him. Or Ng could return a phone call, perhaps.

I have seen absolutely nothing actually linking LD Cooper to the hijacking except what Marla says about it. NOTHING. NADA. ZILCH.

'Looks like the sketch?'

Bing Crosby looks like the sketch. Richard Floyd McCoy...Cooper impersonators at Ariel...proves absolutely nothing. Don't you guys question ANYTHING Marla says or do you just go along with it?

And what about the money found on Tena Bar? Marla claims LD jumped over Three Sisters, Oregon. If I tried to push off a story such as hers on this thread with as little evidence as she has presented, I would be (rightly) laughed off the site. A couple of months ago, when she tried that comic book routine on Good Morning America, many of you laughed about it, plus the other factors that didn't match the facts. Now you call her the Cooper Queen. No proof required for membership. I say 'where's the beef?' and it is seriously lacking.

Present three pieces of solid evidence that do NOT come from a family member that link LD to possibly being Cooper. One is free. He looks like the sketch. Now you are down to two.

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'Blevins says it was buried by the Boston Strangler and Momar Gadafi, but he cant prove it...'

No. I said I believed it was planted by the hijacker. But that's strictly an opinion based on the limited amount of information available about the money find.

I will wait to see if the FBI actually dismisses the case. If they do, it won't be because they've solved it, unless they know something we don't. It will be because they no longer care to expend resources on it.

Do you see what the Symposium actually accomplished, besides a lot of mutual back-slapping? Nothing. All that happened to some of you is that your natural skepticism about the case and your objectivity went down the drain. One of the big reasons I skipped the symposium was because I had no need to preach to the choir. Most of the folks in attendance had already heard the KC story. And it isn't you I have been really trying to convince that we (Skipp, me, staff of AB) might be onto something. It was the general public. And that is still where we are regarding Cooper and KC, or even if KC was NOT Cooper. That is the one big difference between my presentations on KC and the claims of others. I don't say for sure that KC was the guy, because frankly...I don't know for sure.

It's about the truth, nothing else is important. Sounds like some of you got Marla'ed. (*laughs*) Ask for proof besides an old photograph and the word of a family member or two. It's NOT enough. And I shouldn't have to be saying this. All of you know it already. You just forgot about it or something.

For the first time ever on this thread, two things have happened. One, I suddenly think I could be one of few remaining with some common sense left. Two, I am highly disappointed with some of you. No kidding. It's like the Symposium was really an alien device that sucked the intelligence out of attendees' brains the minute they walked out the door.

This is the funniest batch of gobblewobble you have
ever spewed.

If the FBI closes the case you can apply to compete
for cult leader in the Kenny fringe movement. So,
keep your rattlesnakes and charms sparky - dont
bail out yet! You can mortage Adventure Books
and your old shotgun. Hang in there boopy.

There is a God!

[georger 245]

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Gray is just as shocked as every one else. Geoger your theory, as usual is full of holes. Jerry

Theory?

Again Mr. Thomas. Wait and see what happens.

[georger 245]

Gobblewobble? Really?

Proof please, or at least a real comment. Mighty small and empty comment for such a long post I made there. But as usual, you addressed exactly ZERO of the issues I raised in that comment. Typical...disappointing...but expected.

Ok. Next time Ill use smoke signals.

Je n'ai rien à davantage dire.

[JerryThomas 0]

Bruce will be publishing his story by midnight and will Quote what Marla told him. Marla has relayed her story to others this evening to include Geof Gray.I first heard about it at 1:20 this afternoon I talked to Curtis Ng at 4:30 this afternoon.The rest i already posted. Bruce Smith talked to Marla this evening and will post everything later tonight.Not much left to do but wait and see what happens in the next week or so. Jerry

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Blevins wrote

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Don't you guys question ANYTHING Marla says or do you just go along with it?

Robert, you've obviously not met Marla Cooper.

377

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[JerryThomas 0]

Geoger: You said Galen knew this was going to happen. What proof of this do you have. Jerry

[JerryThomas 0]

377: I question everything Marla say's. What I don't understand is why Curtis Ng even investgated her claims any other FBI agent wouldn't have given her the time of day. One thing is for sure and that is, I realy need to get one of those radio's her Uncle used.Jerry

[TomKaye 1]

I too am shocked by the apparent willingness of this forum and the FBI to go with this story. Certainly the case is a pain in the neck for the FBI but to close it on such flimsy evidence would shock me.

Tom Kaye

[377 22]

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I too am shocked by the apparent willingness of this forum and the FBI to go with this story. Certainly the case is a pain in the neck for the FBI but to close it on such flimsy evidence would shock me.

Tom Kaye

It's just fun kicking it around because the LD Cooper + brother story is so incredible: radios, Dan Cooper comics, Boeing employee, etc. It's as if Marla cherry picked this forum.

Until the FBI makes an announcement all we have is Marla-Grams and rumor.

The chances of Cooper actually making a rendezvous with a ground accomplice is so incredibly low. It would have been a near miracle.

We must separate the message from the messenger.

377

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[377 22]

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Your 'help' would not just go randomly into the woods and wait. He would park himself at a place easily found, and known both to the hijacker and his accomplice.

Such as a park on the Lewis River within sight of the Interstate 5 Freeway, for example.

Robert, how do you direct the 727 to that prearranged rendezvous area?

Cooper wasn't dictating any particular flight path.

377

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[ClassClown 0]

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I too am shocked by the apparent willingness of this forum and the FBI to go with this story. Certainly the case is a pain in the neck for the FBI but to close it on such flimsy evidence would shock me.

Tom Kaye

.................Don't count me in on believing her story............

[skyjack71 0]

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Ok. Next time Ill use smoke signals.

Je n'ai rien à davantage dire.

Georger, I don't think there is a God anymore. Standing up for what one believes is only a waste of time and one's life. The only thing that will ever convince me that there is a GOD is to sit down with some pictures in private with Tina and others.

If the FBI showed only a picture of L.D. Cooper to Tina that was unprofessional & inappropriate. She should have been shown pictures of multiple suspects and some insignificant pictures of look-a-likes. If an agent actually approached Tina with only a picture of LDCooper then maybe the FBI needs to walk away from this case.

If I was ever able to sit with Tina & and other witnesses - I would want them to see pages of pictures of Duane and other suspects and with thrown-in's just because they looked like Cooper.

Mitchell was sitting right across from Cooper and another witness near-by - they noted the hair which according to Grey was NOT mentioned by the FBI. Another stewardess also noted things about Cooper never told to the public.

One might wonder WHY has the FBI dropped the ball? If they are looking for a fall guy as Cooper they would select one NO ONE could ever link to other activities...that might be considered undercover or secret.

If the FBI is making a patsy out of LD Cooper - this makes a mockery out of justice. One would think they could CLOSE the CASE simply because it is 40 yrs old and turn it over to the public segments to investigate. To do so they would need to make ALL infomation on the case available.
They would NOT have to provide a list of suspects - suggested or investigated, but to make the prints and any possible DNA public along with the scripts and reports. They have done this, but only to specific individuals.

Grey did not missed the boat, but the only book to be written now is the hilarious saga of Cooper and all of the lives altered or used up by the Cooper investigation. I don't know if I believe in spirits or ghosts or the hereafter, but if he is out there in some spiritual form Duane Weber is saying -


As I said - I have only one wish left and hope it will be granted.
Perhaps Farflung could do an album (a photo printable line-up) so the witnesses can hold them in their hands and touch them. All of the suspects - with multiple pictures of suspects and others for the 3 stewardesses to view - separately and then together and see if they agree on anyone suspect. That exercise is the LAST chapter and it is the only thing that will help bring closure to this case and to the victims of Dan Cooper. The FBI has not conducted the Cooper investigation on a professional level regarding the multiple suspects and their presentations to the witnesses.

As for Marla - she is a victim created by a Dr. who is trying to make a name for himself and a disfunctional family background.
All the Dr. is looking for is money and a movie or book. He
was and is NOT helping this girl, but helping himself. I have personally known lives to be mutilated by such Dr.s The patients are fed fantasies and prescription drugs to cope with life. They exchange one dependency for another and it sometimes ends up in a life being less than it was to begin with.

This Dr. has fed Marla's fantasy - what happens when the walls come tumbling down? She will find solace in self-destruction by returning to the solace of the past. The solutions these fantasy Drs. offer do NOT work and leave the patience worst off than if they had been given rules to abide by and to actually change their lives. He set her up to fail.

I know this - because of a personal loss - a beautful girl who left behind 6 children - her life was a fantasy, but she could not handle reality without the drugs and alcohol and the substitute fantasy her Drs. provided. I will forever remember her vivacious smile and Duane called her "Sunshine" because when she walked into a room - that is what she was
SUNSHINE - there was magic in the room.

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[Farflung 0]

Well, the FBI says LD looks the most like Cooper and since this is the Agent of Record there is no way to argue that. Plus who am I to judge since I only have two, lowly, non-FBI eyes which are not calibrated for DB Cooper looks more likeish and must defer to those with credentials. I’m done fighting that foolish battle and have learned my lesson. Yep, no sources or cross checks required or even wanted.

I’ve decided to abandon linear logic in favor of the more conventional approach; what suspect or suspect’s agent makes me feel the most tingly in my ‘danger area’. This has worked perfectly fine in regard to choosing beers and Buffalo wings so why not let the same ethos guide me here? Damn right.

I’ll follow Marla because she has the most logical, blonde, attractive, vivacious and delightful suspects I’ve seen. I applaud Agent Eng for his sage decision and would like to see much more of Marla in the coming years and decades. Thank gawd this long national nightmare is finally over.

[BruceSmith 3]

Just finished the rough draft. I'll finish tomorrow, Friday by mid-afternnoon, PST. It wil be posted on the Mountain News with a link here.

Marla confirmed to me that Curtis Eng told her he is convinced LD Cooper is DB Cooper and that he intends to shut down the case. PIO, Ayn Dietrich has not confirmed this, and gives me pap boilerplate.

All shall be revealed in the new light of day.

[georger 245]

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Just finished the rough draft. I'll finish tomorrow, Friday by mid-afternnoon, PST. It wil be posted on the Mountain News with a link here.

Marla confirmed to me that Curtis Eng told her he is convinced LD Cooper is DB Cooper and that he intends to shut down the case. PIO, Ayn Dietrich has not confirmed this, and gives me pap boilerplate.

All shall be revealed in the new light of day.

These statements shall be checked in the light of day, as well. And your upcoming article. Confirm everything or forever hold your peace. Otherwise, it enters the realm of Never-Never Cooper Land and will be shown as same.

In other words, publish confirmed facts and stand behind them, or forget it.

Contrary to the claims on your website, you HAVE no students, Bruce. You ARE the student. And brother, you could use a Sylvan Learning Center for Journalism right about now.

Prove me wrong. I would like to see a pro article. I have not given up on you yet.

This advice comes to you from a guy who has published nearly 500 illustrated articles for Newsvine/MSNBC since March of 2007. Just saying.
I may not have a journalism degree, but I'm not stupid, either.

If you want to do an article, don't go for sensationalism or cheap hits. This gets you a bad rep. Verify your statements and facts with solid sources and publish what you got. Cheap junk doesn't last and has diminishing returns, sort of like beating your kids...

Jealous ? Why dont you keep your advice and apply
it to yourself for a change.

[airtwardo 7]

I looked through a few dozen pages and can't find it if it's there....is there a pic of ole LD somewhere in here?

~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~

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Here's a photo:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/08/man-implicated-in-db-cooper-skyjacking-had-worked-at-boeing/1

377

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