377 22 #28026 December 3, 2011 Deathray wroteQuoteTed told me something about how the FBI tried to get the parachutes from Snohomish or someplace up near Seattle and they either didn't have enough or they would not part with them or they were not the kind demanded. Feel free to give him a call and ask and post the result. No way. If Ted had any FBI contact while Cooper was in the plane making his chute demands then Ted couldnt be Cooper. Why then did he call FBI agent Ralph Himmelsbach when the hijack news broke offering an alibi to prove he couldn't be Cooper? Are you pursuing the James Randi prize? If not why not? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ParrotheadVol 70 #28027 December 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote I have a fairly unique ability to recognize lies and truth. I am pretty good at recognizing truth as well, and I see absolutely none of it in your "story". Parrot head, you have a bird brain. Maybe so, but even a bird brain can see through your lie. Also, I wouldn't be too critical of Jerry misspelling your name after you referred to Ralph as "satin"."They were saying he was never gonna make it now, now that daylight had set in. But later that night, they were shining those lights back down on that mountain again." - Todd Snider Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 0 #28028 December 3, 2011 QuoteDeathray wroteQuoteThe follow is what he told me and I have a fairly unique ability to recognize lies and truth. I am a very gifted psychic on top of that and he was not lying. People that know me know that about me. Seriously Deathray, if you don't believe in magical thinking how can you believe that you are a psychic? If you are a psychic why do you need the FBIs help to ID Cooper? Are you aware that you can win a million dollars if you can prove that you are a psychic? So far not one person has succeeded. Could it be that a rigorous scientifically controlled experiment has something to do with that outcome? http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html Prove your claim, collect the million and come back here and tell us some more about your encounter at Sheridan. 377 I was not aware of that challenge. I told my mother exactly when and how she would die. The last thing she did is hand write me a letter, place it in her out basket and then died exactly how and when I said she would. They handed me the unopened letter they found after the funeral when we went to the house. About 10 people had to be standing there and I had a death certificate listing the cause of death in my pocket as we just came from Harborview in Seattle. Two months ago, I told my wife that my sister would die of a heart attack in two months. They found her in her car dead with a massive coronary on Nov. 28th. Do you really think in a million years I would post lies about stuff like this online if I could not back it up? Who I am could be figured out in five minutes. Don't post my name online. The FBI will be calling soon since only they know parts that I posted and that should provoke them to make contact with me. Sorry dude, unlike you, I value my credibility and I and I can support anything I write or it is what I experienced in person. As far as amazing Randy, you apparently can't recognize a propagandist from the truth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 0 #28029 December 3, 2011 QuoteDeathray wroteQuoteTed told me something about how the FBI tried to get the parachutes from Snohomish or someplace up near Seattle and they either didn't have enough or they would not part with them or they were not the kind demanded. Feel free to give him a call and ask and post the result. No way. If Ted had any FBI contact while Cooper was in the plane making his chute demands then Ted couldnt be Cooper. Why then did he call FBI agent Ralph Himmelsbach when the hijack news broke offering an alibi to prove he couldn't be Cooper? Are you pursuing the James Randi prize? If not why not? 377 I am not sure what you are talking about in your rant but thanks for reminding me of the name of the person I talked to in Roseburg. It was Ralph Himmelsbach. As far as all those theories and this thread goes, I have not read any of it. How would you explain the sagging deformed area under the eye of the person I talked to claiming to be DB Cooper? If you are suggesting I am lying or crazy, piss off in advance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #28030 December 3, 2011 Teddy is my personal Jesus. Ralph is Satin. Quote Ya mush have missed the class on 'how to appear credible'... Then again, your choice of 'religion' and role models is entirely up to you. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #28031 December 3, 2011 Quit dodging Deathray. Prove you have psychic powers in a controlled experiment and collect the million. It's simple. Don't dodge the challenge by taking shots at James Randi. If you have paranormal abilities then prove it. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ParrotheadVol 70 #28032 December 3, 2011 QuoteQuote Do you really think in a million years I would post lies about stuff like this online if I could not back it up? Yes."They were saying he was never gonna make it now, now that daylight had set in. But later that night, they were shining those lights back down on that mountain again." - Todd Snider Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #28033 December 3, 2011 Deathray wroteQuote If you are suggesting I am lying or crazy, piss off in advance. So typical. You ask a self proclaimed "gifted psychic" to do a controlled experiment and they get all huffy. Yawn. Nobody called you a liar or crazy. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Farflung 0 #28034 December 3, 2011 OK 377, I just sent an email to Randi’s website and predicted that Deathray is full of it. Now I’ll just sit back and wait for that tasty million to roll in so I can start that rehab center for hot nuns. Sure it will take all I’ve got but generosity knows no bounds and I just give and give and give. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Deathray 0 #28035 December 3, 2011 Quote Teddy is my personal Jesus. Ralph is Satin. Quote Ya mush have missed the class on 'how to appear credible'... Then again, your choice of 'religion' and role models is entirely up to you. I am not all about appearances and I am an old jumper. If you could critically think, you would know that one of Ted's jumpers appearing credible would be akin to an oxymoron. As far as where the rigs the FBI used, like I said it was nearly 20 years and that part of the story was unimportant to me at the time. Ted knew about the parachutes and I left a clue for the FBI that would validate that. Ted is home. Call him and ask him about the parachutes. If he tells you the same story he told me, don't expose the parts that the FBI does not want public. As far as amazing randi and other stupid comments, I am going to ignore them. All it does is bury the only credible information that can either be validated or not through a quick investigation. I am willing to back up anything I wrote and I can fill in the blanks with what he told me. You assume you know what you don't what you don't know. It is the same magical thinking that prevented the FBI from investigating this on no less than four occasions now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #28036 December 3, 2011 Deathray, Since you are, like me, an old jumper I'll stop ranting about your gifted psychic claims and focus on Ted. If Ted was helping secure chutes for the FBI while Cooper was in the 727 then Ted couldn't possibly be Cooper. Right? OK. Now then, why would Ted feel the need to contact Ralph Himmelsbach when the skyjack news broke and tell him that he (Ted) isn't Cooper and has an alibi? Do you think Himmelsbach is lying about the call from Ted? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Deathray 0 #28037 December 3, 2011 QuoteDeathray wroteQuote If you are suggesting I am lying or crazy, piss off in advance. So typical. You ask a self proclsimed "gifted psychic" to do a controlled experiment and they get all huffy. Yawn. Nobody called you a liar or crazy. 377 OK, I am going to respond to this one last time and then I am going to ignore your ass for now at least. It is not something I do. I comes through me, not from me. When it happens or why I have no idea. You assume [your magical thought] that I am able to do dog tricks on demand or would even lower myself to that. Wrong. But I could do this. I could give you the name of a DZ owner I worked for that will probably remember me telling him you are going to have a bounce and a plane crash in the next month. I spotted the bounce in the plane. Took the plane back to the hanger, removed the student rig and was able to deploy the rig with just ounces of pull on the static line. She was the one that would have died and that saved her life and probably the DZ. Next, you would ask him if he had a pilot quit a few weeks before his last plane crash and if that person told him it was going to happen. Next you would ask him, did you upgrade your student gear right after that? You are going to get three answers that back up what I am said. I could provide a lifetime of these examples but this is someone that knows me and is a skydiver.. The psychic part is unimportant and not at all related except that I am able to spot liars who tend to lack thought integrity such as yourself. Is that enough of a controlled experiment asshole? Wait... I avoid people that lack integrity like the plague. People that have been around skydiving for 20 years in this part of the country know exactly who I am and know that about me. While you are talking to Ted if you ever decide to fact check what I wrote, get Betty's number and ask her if she remembers she and I standing next to Redneck's pickup during the 92 or 93 boogie and me telling her that she would have a bounce in September. The bounce was named David Skuzeskie and he bounced that Sept. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #28038 December 3, 2011 Deathray wroteQuoteThe psychic part is unimportant and not at all related except that I am able to spot liars who tend to lack thought integrity such as yourself. Damn. You ARE psychic! How could I have doubted? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JerryThomas 0 #28039 December 3, 2011 Deathray:The people that are responding to your posts have had years of experience and have researched this case for years. Most of the posters on this site are Skydivers, Authors,Investigators Lawyers, Researchers, Scientist, Aircraft Engineers, Survival Instructors/Experts, Proffesors,Self made Millionaires ect.There is very little about this case they do not know.So have some respect. Make sure you know who your addressing before calling them names.Do your research before making statements. If your wrong they will call you on it. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites smokin99 0 #28040 December 3, 2011 Quote Quote 37 Top Reasons Why Marla’s Uncle Is Cooper 1. Marla is blonde. 2. Marla is smoking hot. 3. Marla could be a hot nun. 4. He lived near (space and time is irrelevant on DZ) the landing zone. 5. Her uncle used two initials for a name. 6. Marla has a dazzling, bright smile. 7. Her uncle owned walkie-talkies. 8. Marla lived in Sisters which is what nuns are called. 9. Marla has NOT denied wearing Doc Martens. 10. Looking at Marla makes me happy. 11. Her uncle owned a Dan Cooper comic during the proper publication period and did not need to revise this statement. 12. The FBI Agent of Record says LD is Cooper. 13. He smoked cigarettes with coupons. 14. He drank booze. 15. His niece Marla is drop dead swat my butt with a car antenna, beguiling in appearance. 16. He lost $200,000 and Brian found $5,800 of it on a river bank; if LD took it home Brian would have found bupkis. 17. Marla makes me want to buy her real estate. 18. LD did NOT know how to open the stairs. 19. He lived closest to Portland, OR where the hijacking originated. 20. LD did not have any money and wanted some. 21. His arms were not hairy. 22. His brother drove him to the airport explaining why no taxi drivers remembered DB. 23. He knew how to ‘fake’ a pressure bump. 24. Beautiful Marla would not lie to me. 25. No one can prove he wasn’t on the plane. 26. He had no accent. 27. He could read French but never told anyone. 28. He owned shoes. 29. He never talked about the hijacking after it happened. 30. His lifestyle stayed the same because he lost the money. 31. Marla has such hypnotic, dancing eyes that she must be truthful. 32. LD was a Special Ops veteran. 33. LD was in the Navy. 34. LD was polite. 35. Marla may appear in a gentleman’s magazine. 36. LD’s name IS Cooper….. helllllloooooooooooo. 37. Defying odds, Marla’s name is also Cooper. GUILTY! Your honor, the prosecution sleeps the sleep of the righteous. . And the jury says.....Fry em. As usual, you have cut right to the crux of the issues in your hunk(y) way. Might I add: 38. Marla (Cooper) is writing a non-fiction book about her uncle L.D. (Cooper). Case closed. eta: What was Step 1?but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Robert99 50 #28041 December 3, 2011 QuoteIf you are suggesting I am lying or crazy, piss off in advance. Deathray, Are you channeling Marla's toothbrush again? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #28042 December 3, 2011 QuoteI could give you the name of a DZ owner I worked for that will probably remember me telling him you are going to have a bounce and a plane crash in the next month. Uh.hate to tell ya....BUT..... that is not psychic ability at Sheridan... that was a very high statistical probability there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #28043 December 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteI could give you the name of a DZ owner I worked for that will probably remember me telling him you are going to have a bounce and a plane crash in the next month. Uh.hate to tell ya....BUT..... that is not psychic ability at Sheridan... that was a very high statistical probability there. Wasn't Teds DZ referred to as the Bounce House? Wasn't he prosecuted for manslaughter after the n'th student went in with defective gear? (Seattle Times) QuoteSkydiving Operator Faces Charges Over Deaths Of 2 Jumpers AP SHERIDAN, Ore. - In the 22 years Sheridan Sky Sports was in business, 13 people died parachuting from planes it sent from a dirt airstrip in this tiny Western Oregon town. Operator Ted Mayfield, who closed the center amid investigations by the Federal Aviation Administration and county authorities, now faces manslaughter charges over the deaths of an 85-year-old man who died on his first jump and an experienced jumper whose chute didn't open. Mayfield says skydiving is a risky sport and the number of deaths at his center, also known as Pacific Parachute Center, is not unusual. Arleen Richman of the U.S. Parachute Association said one death occurs in every 84,000 jumps. That means Mayfield's center would have had to log more than 49,000 jumps a year to remain within that ratio. Mayfield says only that his staff flew "thousands of jumps every year," with up to 1,000 jumps on a busy weekend. An indictment charges Mayfield with "unlawfully and recklessly" causing the deaths of Lee Perry Sr. in February 1994 and Charles Schaefer in September 1993. Schaefer, 33, a veteran skydiver, was killed when his parachute failed to open over the Sheridan Airport. He had made 53 recreational jumps, and his family said he was a paratrooper in the U.S. Army 82nd Airborne Division. Mayfield's rigger license was revoked Feb. 18, 1994, after an FAA investigation of Schaefer's death. Investigators found that Mayfield had packed Schaefer's parachute with an automatic activating device that Mayfield knew had failed its last calibration test. Federal officials said in March that although Perry was a novice when he jumped on Feb. 12, 1994, he was given a parachute designed for experienced jumpers. When he jumped, the static line linking him to the plane failed to open the main chute and a line that would have automatically opened his emergency chute was missing. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Deathray 0 #28044 December 3, 2011 QuoteDeathray:The people that are responding to your posts have had years of experience and have researched this case for years. Most of the posters on this site are Skydivers, Authors,Investigators Lawyers, Researchers, Scientist, Aircraft Engineers, Survival Instructors/Experts, Proffesors,Self made Millionaires ect.There is very little about this case they do not know.So have some respect. Make sure you know who your addressing before calling them names.Do your research before making statements. If your wrong they will call you on it. Jerry I could not give a rats ass what their day job is. If they treat me with disrespect, they shall reap what they sow. Controlled experiments are hardly outside of what I do. If you did your research, you would see how for a decade I have been using terms like suoerluminal to indicate faster than the speed of light. I seem to recall CERN catching up with me a few weeks ago and it being independently validated but not widely publicized a week ago. Aharonov Bohm effect and acceleration are the toys I play with on my bench. I blew Planks constant and special relativity away a decade ago along with the first two laws of thermodynamics. BTW - The brain of a psychic uses aharonov Bohm effect to communicate instantly anywhere in the universe without propagation delay with tiny amounts of energy. It is a creation event according to Richard Feynman and Mandelbrot in a PBS special. Seems Feynman lost his religion just before he died but then he pulled the plug on a Papp engine and killed a man years before. I am guessing most of that that is a bit over your head? Every word I wrote is what I observed or what I experienced or what I was told. The only part I question is where the parachutes came from. After ~20 years, I am foggy on what Ted told me about where but I recall him talking about the FBI going to a DZ up by Seattle and they either didn't have enough, the right kind or something like that and I think Ted said that some of or all the gear used came from him. Could be that Ted was jumping up there then or his friend told him but Ted knew things that were not public and the guy claiming to be DB cooper said something that made me laugh about what was written on a parachute reserve belly wart. The DB I met matched the poster with the eye deformity, was not lying and all the details he gave until I asked him his name. His pause before saying the name was because I knew a friend of his and he had a choice, if he lied and I verified that than nothing he said had meaning. He had a few beers and I bruised his ego when I growled at him so he impulsively reacted and disclosed who he was and gave me that piece of paper. Why did he have the paper hidden behind the lining of his wallet if he was not the real deal? If others did their research or had critical thinking skills they would do few fact checks of their own. They would have also solved this mystery long ago because I know for a fact I am not the only one he told. I am not a liar and I am hardly an idiot. All I have is what I was told by him, what I was given by him and what I observed. If people treat me with disrespect, I will feed it back to them in spades and then I will dismiss them forever.. 377 is not willing to fact check what I did write. He wants to fact check what he wrongly assumes I can't or will not online. OK That being said, I am recanting an event that happened 20 years ago and I took the time just now in the middle of writing this to read a Wiki article on the subject and just learned something has been disclosed that I did not realize had. The thing that I wrote about that was funny was "DUMMY" was written on the reserve and ted told me that. Ted told me more but I am not disclosing anything that is not known or would solve the case casue I want the money. I just read this in the wiki article: "Furthermore, from the two reserve parachutes given him, Cooper selected a "dummy" — an unusable unit with an inoperative ripcord intended for classroom demonstrations,[42] despite the fact that it had clear markings identifying it to any experienced skydiver as non-functional." ************* GET THIS*********** The thing that made me laugh when DB cooper was telling me about this is that he took a parachute that had dummy written on it. Go back and read my first post. I suppose if you looked at my ip address and checked what pages I have accessed in wiki, you would see that I have never been there until just now. I have not researched this and really could not care less. Now you can do your homework and figure out how DB knew one of those parachutes had dummy written on it back in 1992 ... The FBI is fully capable of checking the wiki pages I have accessed and when that information was made public. I don't think wiki existed in 1992 or that had been disclosed because Ted told me not to disclose that and I didn't.... I used to have a secret clearance and I keep the secrets I agree to keep. Think about that. I am done you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #28045 December 3, 2011 QuoteMarla (Cooper) is writing a non-fiction book about her uncle L.D. (Cooper). I think she could make a lot more money endorsing any kind of cosmetic product she could claim to have been using. She doesn't look old enough to have even been alive in 1971. Seriously. Well, the predicted LD/Marla news storm was a light breeze centered in Oregon. What happened? Are reporters and editors skeptical? Blevins and Bruce. You guys are tuned in to media stuff. Why so little coverage? Almost zero. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Farflung 0 #28046 December 3, 2011 Smokin99 asks all hot and nun-y: “What was Step 1?” Excellent question smokin99 and just the type I would expect from a three alarm Hunkette. Step 1 is Denial. Of course there is going to be resistance to the thought that Marla’s uncle is DB Cooper with many feelings getting bruised in the process. This is natural and nothing to be ashamed of. Let’s face it, this has always been about beauty and not substance; I offer over one thousand thread pages as proof. So when handed lemons, make piss. There could have been worse outcomes besides Marla. Like someone ugly. Now that the shock is wearing off there is room for a little awe. Marla will fill the Doc Martens of High Cooperitess in a way that has not existed before and would rarely show her asp in the process. After acceptance is complete we can move on to Step 3, Dee Zee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #28047 December 3, 2011 Deathray wrote Quote Seems Feynman lost his religion just before he died but then he pulled the plug on a Papp engine and killed a man years before. I am guessing most of that that is a bit over your head? It was stupid to pull the plug, but that Papp engine was a total fraud. Papp was a cynical crook masquerading as a persecuted scientist. All perpetual motion machines of that ilk are a delusion or a scam. Glad you read about modern physics (Cern and C+) and think outside of the theoretical box. I am really surprised that Georger is able to restrain himself. I aced classic and quantum physics at a tough school but it was all that Newton and Einstein propaganda, so it doesn't count. No need to do dog and pony tricks for the Randi prize when you can get a Noble in a dignified manner. I don't like Feynman much (if his ego had mass, Earth would be a Black Hole) and I am an old jumper like you. Since we have so much in common why keep fighting? Peace brother and Blue Skys. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjack71 0 #28048 December 3, 2011 QuoteQuote I have a fairly unique ability to recognize lies and truth. I am pretty good at recognizing truth as well, and I see absolutely none of it in your "story". Yepp, there are lots of glitches in his story - too many. Ted? Ted who? Jumping in Sheridan - what yr? Eye bagging - which eye? Color of complexion?Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjack71 0 #28049 December 3, 2011 Quote I feel a song lyric is appropriate right now. Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.... (A song I now forever associate with ears being cut off, thanks Quentin, but I do not feel a need to resort to such violent tendencies.) Sigh.... I do wish reporters and authors had not felt the need to publicize this thread, though. Feel the same way and Quade will have to do double time to keep the creeps out - expect the end to come soon (for the thread). Individuals like Deathray will be the death of DZ, as we have known it. One of them will bait Jerry or someone else and then 1/2 of us will be banned and the thread lock so we need to prepare our farewells soon.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites smokin99 0 #28050 December 3, 2011 Quote Smokin99 asks all hot and nun-y: “What was Step 1?” Excellent question smokin99 and just the type I would expect from a three alarm Hunkette. Step 1 is Denial. Of course there is going to be resistance to the thought that Marla’s uncle is DB Cooper with many feelings getting bruised in the process. This is natural and nothing to be ashamed of. Let’s face it, this has always been about beauty and not substance; I offer over one thousand thread pages as proof. So when handed lemons, make piss. There could have been worse outcomes besides Marla. Like someone ugly. Now that the shock is wearing off there is room for a little awe. Marla will fill the Doc Martens of High Cooperitess in a way that has not existed before and would rarely show her asp in the process. After acceptance is complete we can move on to Step 3, Dee Zee. I'm just glad we were able to skip over all of that ABD crap. Denial to acceptance works a heck of lot better for my schedule. But Doc Martens??....but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1117 1118 1119 1120 1121 1122 1123 1124 1125 1126 1127 Next Page 1122 of 2570 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. 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377 22 #28033 December 3, 2011 Deathray wroteQuote If you are suggesting I am lying or crazy, piss off in advance. So typical. You ask a self proclaimed "gifted psychic" to do a controlled experiment and they get all huffy. Yawn. Nobody called you a liar or crazy. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farflung 0 #28034 December 3, 2011 OK 377, I just sent an email to Randi’s website and predicted that Deathray is full of it. Now I’ll just sit back and wait for that tasty million to roll in so I can start that rehab center for hot nuns. Sure it will take all I’ve got but generosity knows no bounds and I just give and give and give. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 0 #28035 December 3, 2011 Quote Teddy is my personal Jesus. Ralph is Satin. Quote Ya mush have missed the class on 'how to appear credible'... Then again, your choice of 'religion' and role models is entirely up to you. I am not all about appearances and I am an old jumper. If you could critically think, you would know that one of Ted's jumpers appearing credible would be akin to an oxymoron. As far as where the rigs the FBI used, like I said it was nearly 20 years and that part of the story was unimportant to me at the time. Ted knew about the parachutes and I left a clue for the FBI that would validate that. Ted is home. Call him and ask him about the parachutes. If he tells you the same story he told me, don't expose the parts that the FBI does not want public. As far as amazing randi and other stupid comments, I am going to ignore them. All it does is bury the only credible information that can either be validated or not through a quick investigation. I am willing to back up anything I wrote and I can fill in the blanks with what he told me. You assume you know what you don't what you don't know. It is the same magical thinking that prevented the FBI from investigating this on no less than four occasions now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #28036 December 3, 2011 Deathray, Since you are, like me, an old jumper I'll stop ranting about your gifted psychic claims and focus on Ted. If Ted was helping secure chutes for the FBI while Cooper was in the 727 then Ted couldn't possibly be Cooper. Right? OK. Now then, why would Ted feel the need to contact Ralph Himmelsbach when the skyjack news broke and tell him that he (Ted) isn't Cooper and has an alibi? Do you think Himmelsbach is lying about the call from Ted? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 0 #28037 December 3, 2011 QuoteDeathray wroteQuote If you are suggesting I am lying or crazy, piss off in advance. So typical. You ask a self proclsimed "gifted psychic" to do a controlled experiment and they get all huffy. Yawn. Nobody called you a liar or crazy. 377 OK, I am going to respond to this one last time and then I am going to ignore your ass for now at least. It is not something I do. I comes through me, not from me. When it happens or why I have no idea. You assume [your magical thought] that I am able to do dog tricks on demand or would even lower myself to that. Wrong. But I could do this. I could give you the name of a DZ owner I worked for that will probably remember me telling him you are going to have a bounce and a plane crash in the next month. I spotted the bounce in the plane. Took the plane back to the hanger, removed the student rig and was able to deploy the rig with just ounces of pull on the static line. She was the one that would have died and that saved her life and probably the DZ. Next, you would ask him if he had a pilot quit a few weeks before his last plane crash and if that person told him it was going to happen. Next you would ask him, did you upgrade your student gear right after that? You are going to get three answers that back up what I am said. I could provide a lifetime of these examples but this is someone that knows me and is a skydiver.. The psychic part is unimportant and not at all related except that I am able to spot liars who tend to lack thought integrity such as yourself. Is that enough of a controlled experiment asshole? Wait... I avoid people that lack integrity like the plague. People that have been around skydiving for 20 years in this part of the country know exactly who I am and know that about me. While you are talking to Ted if you ever decide to fact check what I wrote, get Betty's number and ask her if she remembers she and I standing next to Redneck's pickup during the 92 or 93 boogie and me telling her that she would have a bounce in September. The bounce was named David Skuzeskie and he bounced that Sept. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #28038 December 3, 2011 Deathray wroteQuoteThe psychic part is unimportant and not at all related except that I am able to spot liars who tend to lack thought integrity such as yourself. Damn. You ARE psychic! How could I have doubted? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryThomas 0 #28039 December 3, 2011 Deathray:The people that are responding to your posts have had years of experience and have researched this case for years. Most of the posters on this site are Skydivers, Authors,Investigators Lawyers, Researchers, Scientist, Aircraft Engineers, Survival Instructors/Experts, Proffesors,Self made Millionaires ect.There is very little about this case they do not know.So have some respect. Make sure you know who your addressing before calling them names.Do your research before making statements. If your wrong they will call you on it. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smokin99 0 #28040 December 3, 2011 Quote Quote 37 Top Reasons Why Marla’s Uncle Is Cooper 1. Marla is blonde. 2. Marla is smoking hot. 3. Marla could be a hot nun. 4. He lived near (space and time is irrelevant on DZ) the landing zone. 5. Her uncle used two initials for a name. 6. Marla has a dazzling, bright smile. 7. Her uncle owned walkie-talkies. 8. Marla lived in Sisters which is what nuns are called. 9. Marla has NOT denied wearing Doc Martens. 10. Looking at Marla makes me happy. 11. Her uncle owned a Dan Cooper comic during the proper publication period and did not need to revise this statement. 12. The FBI Agent of Record says LD is Cooper. 13. He smoked cigarettes with coupons. 14. He drank booze. 15. His niece Marla is drop dead swat my butt with a car antenna, beguiling in appearance. 16. He lost $200,000 and Brian found $5,800 of it on a river bank; if LD took it home Brian would have found bupkis. 17. Marla makes me want to buy her real estate. 18. LD did NOT know how to open the stairs. 19. He lived closest to Portland, OR where the hijacking originated. 20. LD did not have any money and wanted some. 21. His arms were not hairy. 22. His brother drove him to the airport explaining why no taxi drivers remembered DB. 23. He knew how to ‘fake’ a pressure bump. 24. Beautiful Marla would not lie to me. 25. No one can prove he wasn’t on the plane. 26. He had no accent. 27. He could read French but never told anyone. 28. He owned shoes. 29. He never talked about the hijacking after it happened. 30. His lifestyle stayed the same because he lost the money. 31. Marla has such hypnotic, dancing eyes that she must be truthful. 32. LD was a Special Ops veteran. 33. LD was in the Navy. 34. LD was polite. 35. Marla may appear in a gentleman’s magazine. 36. LD’s name IS Cooper….. helllllloooooooooooo. 37. Defying odds, Marla’s name is also Cooper. GUILTY! Your honor, the prosecution sleeps the sleep of the righteous. . And the jury says.....Fry em. As usual, you have cut right to the crux of the issues in your hunk(y) way. Might I add: 38. Marla (Cooper) is writing a non-fiction book about her uncle L.D. (Cooper). Case closed. eta: What was Step 1?but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert99 50 #28041 December 3, 2011 QuoteIf you are suggesting I am lying or crazy, piss off in advance. Deathray, Are you channeling Marla's toothbrush again? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #28042 December 3, 2011 QuoteI could give you the name of a DZ owner I worked for that will probably remember me telling him you are going to have a bounce and a plane crash in the next month. Uh.hate to tell ya....BUT..... that is not psychic ability at Sheridan... that was a very high statistical probability there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #28043 December 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteI could give you the name of a DZ owner I worked for that will probably remember me telling him you are going to have a bounce and a plane crash in the next month. Uh.hate to tell ya....BUT..... that is not psychic ability at Sheridan... that was a very high statistical probability there. Wasn't Teds DZ referred to as the Bounce House? Wasn't he prosecuted for manslaughter after the n'th student went in with defective gear? (Seattle Times) QuoteSkydiving Operator Faces Charges Over Deaths Of 2 Jumpers AP SHERIDAN, Ore. - In the 22 years Sheridan Sky Sports was in business, 13 people died parachuting from planes it sent from a dirt airstrip in this tiny Western Oregon town. Operator Ted Mayfield, who closed the center amid investigations by the Federal Aviation Administration and county authorities, now faces manslaughter charges over the deaths of an 85-year-old man who died on his first jump and an experienced jumper whose chute didn't open. Mayfield says skydiving is a risky sport and the number of deaths at his center, also known as Pacific Parachute Center, is not unusual. Arleen Richman of the U.S. Parachute Association said one death occurs in every 84,000 jumps. That means Mayfield's center would have had to log more than 49,000 jumps a year to remain within that ratio. Mayfield says only that his staff flew "thousands of jumps every year," with up to 1,000 jumps on a busy weekend. An indictment charges Mayfield with "unlawfully and recklessly" causing the deaths of Lee Perry Sr. in February 1994 and Charles Schaefer in September 1993. Schaefer, 33, a veteran skydiver, was killed when his parachute failed to open over the Sheridan Airport. He had made 53 recreational jumps, and his family said he was a paratrooper in the U.S. Army 82nd Airborne Division. Mayfield's rigger license was revoked Feb. 18, 1994, after an FAA investigation of Schaefer's death. Investigators found that Mayfield had packed Schaefer's parachute with an automatic activating device that Mayfield knew had failed its last calibration test. Federal officials said in March that although Perry was a novice when he jumped on Feb. 12, 1994, he was given a parachute designed for experienced jumpers. When he jumped, the static line linking him to the plane failed to open the main chute and a line that would have automatically opened his emergency chute was missing. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 0 #28044 December 3, 2011 QuoteDeathray:The people that are responding to your posts have had years of experience and have researched this case for years. Most of the posters on this site are Skydivers, Authors,Investigators Lawyers, Researchers, Scientist, Aircraft Engineers, Survival Instructors/Experts, Proffesors,Self made Millionaires ect.There is very little about this case they do not know.So have some respect. Make sure you know who your addressing before calling them names.Do your research before making statements. If your wrong they will call you on it. Jerry I could not give a rats ass what their day job is. If they treat me with disrespect, they shall reap what they sow. Controlled experiments are hardly outside of what I do. If you did your research, you would see how for a decade I have been using terms like suoerluminal to indicate faster than the speed of light. I seem to recall CERN catching up with me a few weeks ago and it being independently validated but not widely publicized a week ago. Aharonov Bohm effect and acceleration are the toys I play with on my bench. I blew Planks constant and special relativity away a decade ago along with the first two laws of thermodynamics. BTW - The brain of a psychic uses aharonov Bohm effect to communicate instantly anywhere in the universe without propagation delay with tiny amounts of energy. It is a creation event according to Richard Feynman and Mandelbrot in a PBS special. Seems Feynman lost his religion just before he died but then he pulled the plug on a Papp engine and killed a man years before. I am guessing most of that that is a bit over your head? Every word I wrote is what I observed or what I experienced or what I was told. The only part I question is where the parachutes came from. After ~20 years, I am foggy on what Ted told me about where but I recall him talking about the FBI going to a DZ up by Seattle and they either didn't have enough, the right kind or something like that and I think Ted said that some of or all the gear used came from him. Could be that Ted was jumping up there then or his friend told him but Ted knew things that were not public and the guy claiming to be DB cooper said something that made me laugh about what was written on a parachute reserve belly wart. The DB I met matched the poster with the eye deformity, was not lying and all the details he gave until I asked him his name. His pause before saying the name was because I knew a friend of his and he had a choice, if he lied and I verified that than nothing he said had meaning. He had a few beers and I bruised his ego when I growled at him so he impulsively reacted and disclosed who he was and gave me that piece of paper. Why did he have the paper hidden behind the lining of his wallet if he was not the real deal? If others did their research or had critical thinking skills they would do few fact checks of their own. They would have also solved this mystery long ago because I know for a fact I am not the only one he told. I am not a liar and I am hardly an idiot. All I have is what I was told by him, what I was given by him and what I observed. If people treat me with disrespect, I will feed it back to them in spades and then I will dismiss them forever.. 377 is not willing to fact check what I did write. He wants to fact check what he wrongly assumes I can't or will not online. OK That being said, I am recanting an event that happened 20 years ago and I took the time just now in the middle of writing this to read a Wiki article on the subject and just learned something has been disclosed that I did not realize had. The thing that I wrote about that was funny was "DUMMY" was written on the reserve and ted told me that. Ted told me more but I am not disclosing anything that is not known or would solve the case casue I want the money. I just read this in the wiki article: "Furthermore, from the two reserve parachutes given him, Cooper selected a "dummy" — an unusable unit with an inoperative ripcord intended for classroom demonstrations,[42] despite the fact that it had clear markings identifying it to any experienced skydiver as non-functional." ************* GET THIS*********** The thing that made me laugh when DB cooper was telling me about this is that he took a parachute that had dummy written on it. Go back and read my first post. I suppose if you looked at my ip address and checked what pages I have accessed in wiki, you would see that I have never been there until just now. I have not researched this and really could not care less. Now you can do your homework and figure out how DB knew one of those parachutes had dummy written on it back in 1992 ... The FBI is fully capable of checking the wiki pages I have accessed and when that information was made public. I don't think wiki existed in 1992 or that had been disclosed because Ted told me not to disclose that and I didn't.... I used to have a secret clearance and I keep the secrets I agree to keep. Think about that. I am done you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #28045 December 3, 2011 QuoteMarla (Cooper) is writing a non-fiction book about her uncle L.D. (Cooper). I think she could make a lot more money endorsing any kind of cosmetic product she could claim to have been using. She doesn't look old enough to have even been alive in 1971. Seriously. Well, the predicted LD/Marla news storm was a light breeze centered in Oregon. What happened? Are reporters and editors skeptical? Blevins and Bruce. You guys are tuned in to media stuff. Why so little coverage? Almost zero. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farflung 0 #28046 December 3, 2011 Smokin99 asks all hot and nun-y: “What was Step 1?” Excellent question smokin99 and just the type I would expect from a three alarm Hunkette. Step 1 is Denial. Of course there is going to be resistance to the thought that Marla’s uncle is DB Cooper with many feelings getting bruised in the process. This is natural and nothing to be ashamed of. Let’s face it, this has always been about beauty and not substance; I offer over one thousand thread pages as proof. So when handed lemons, make piss. There could have been worse outcomes besides Marla. Like someone ugly. Now that the shock is wearing off there is room for a little awe. Marla will fill the Doc Martens of High Cooperitess in a way that has not existed before and would rarely show her asp in the process. After acceptance is complete we can move on to Step 3, Dee Zee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #28047 December 3, 2011 Deathray wrote Quote Seems Feynman lost his religion just before he died but then he pulled the plug on a Papp engine and killed a man years before. I am guessing most of that that is a bit over your head? It was stupid to pull the plug, but that Papp engine was a total fraud. Papp was a cynical crook masquerading as a persecuted scientist. All perpetual motion machines of that ilk are a delusion or a scam. Glad you read about modern physics (Cern and C+) and think outside of the theoretical box. I am really surprised that Georger is able to restrain himself. I aced classic and quantum physics at a tough school but it was all that Newton and Einstein propaganda, so it doesn't count. No need to do dog and pony tricks for the Randi prize when you can get a Noble in a dignified manner. I don't like Feynman much (if his ego had mass, Earth would be a Black Hole) and I am an old jumper like you. Since we have so much in common why keep fighting? Peace brother and Blue Skys. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #28048 December 3, 2011 QuoteQuote I have a fairly unique ability to recognize lies and truth. I am pretty good at recognizing truth as well, and I see absolutely none of it in your "story". Yepp, there are lots of glitches in his story - too many. Ted? Ted who? Jumping in Sheridan - what yr? Eye bagging - which eye? Color of complexion?Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #28049 December 3, 2011 Quote I feel a song lyric is appropriate right now. Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.... (A song I now forever associate with ears being cut off, thanks Quentin, but I do not feel a need to resort to such violent tendencies.) Sigh.... I do wish reporters and authors had not felt the need to publicize this thread, though. Feel the same way and Quade will have to do double time to keep the creeps out - expect the end to come soon (for the thread). Individuals like Deathray will be the death of DZ, as we have known it. One of them will bait Jerry or someone else and then 1/2 of us will be banned and the thread lock so we need to prepare our farewells soon.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smokin99 0 #28050 December 3, 2011 Quote Smokin99 asks all hot and nun-y: “What was Step 1?” Excellent question smokin99 and just the type I would expect from a three alarm Hunkette. Step 1 is Denial. Of course there is going to be resistance to the thought that Marla’s uncle is DB Cooper with many feelings getting bruised in the process. This is natural and nothing to be ashamed of. Let’s face it, this has always been about beauty and not substance; I offer over one thousand thread pages as proof. So when handed lemons, make piss. There could have been worse outcomes besides Marla. Like someone ugly. Now that the shock is wearing off there is room for a little awe. Marla will fill the Doc Martens of High Cooperitess in a way that has not existed before and would rarely show her asp in the process. After acceptance is complete we can move on to Step 3, Dee Zee. I'm just glad we were able to skip over all of that ABD crap. Denial to acceptance works a heck of lot better for my schedule. But Doc Martens??....but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
