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..............I get sick for a few days and come back here and almost puke reading this Deathray dudes junk....................back to bed...........arrrggghhhh



EXACTLY as Deathray predicted.

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Jo, I'm probably much older than you think. I'll graduate from second grade next year. How old are you?

I guess the placard came out right after the stairway was deployed. Was that before they hit the rain?

In my short e-mail exchanges with Gray back in August he expressed little interest in the Marla info, but he had a book to promote. He was thinking it might have been a Canadian. Judging from his web page post, he hasn't changed his mind about her, like most of you. I'm trusting the FBI on this, but maybe they would just like to have the case closed.

Marla's mother has corrabarated some of her story. News reports say that both her and the FBI have been talking to her relatives. Didn't she talk about that at the symposium?

The cabin lost pressure at 8:10. If the weather was really rough, I would think there would be a lot of turbulence at 10,000 ft. Isn't the conjecture about when he jumped pretty much speculation?

BTW, I have a lot invested in Marla being right. I have a You Tube video and they will pay me a huge amount if enough people click on the advertising. I've already made $0.02 since August.

http://youtu.be/qagMRM5hF0I
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Pressurization is yet another ‘headless corpse’ on this thread that is ceaselessly abused. I really don’t understand what the confusion is over except for the standard blinders being worn by those with a pre-plotted scenario with one true answer. Just wait a while and they will attempt to fly some more garbage science under the guise of seeking the truth (they all say it) or refer to the error as small or trivial once exposed (they all say it).

http://n467us.com/Data%20Files/dbcooper_transcripts.pdf

Flight 305 was never pressurized therefore it could not ‘lose’ pressure (ref PDF page 59 bottom). In the transcripts one can read how the plane was ordered to an intermediate level off of 7000 feet so the door could be opened. This would require the aft door (aka pressure vessel door) to be open in the first place thus madly hampering any attempt at pressurization.

The aft stairs were released mere minutes (ref PDF page 69) after takeoff and made pressurization a moot point from that time forward. The placard was found much farther down course from where the stairs were open. I don’t think the stair opening was concurrent with the placard getting loose.

On succeeding similar hijackings (LaPoint, McNally, McCoy and Heady) the crews were sure enough that their hijackers had jumped to land at the nearest airport (Why?). Flight 305 continued to fly and land at the agreed upon refueling airport of Reno, NV even though ATC suggested Medford, OR (ref PDF page 16-17) if they felt Cooper had jumped. This is another oft ignored data point for some strange reason. I would suggest that this action indicates some larger amount of ambiguity over the jump time of Cooper than is presently being talked about.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUxWmDgSXP4

Cover of the Toots and Maytals' Pressure drop, by the Specials.

The FBI silence on Marla is a bit puzzling, it's like from "credible witness" to "Marla who?"

To be fair to Marla she didnt say she was on the polygraph for 5 hours. She explained that she was connected to the machine for a portion of an interview that lasted five hours.

Five hours is an incredibly long interview. I'd have run out of questions well before the five hour mark.

Five hours focused on 40 year old memories of a then eight year old kid?

One thing for sure, Marla knows her 1971 vintage CB walkie talkies. That clouds my rational thinking and skepticism.

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In the Daily OK interview I posted a few days ago she actually said five and a half hours, but I guess a half hour wouldn't make much difference.

I just can't buy the Christiansen thing. Even if the FBI found an abundance of DNA and fingerprint evidence I don't think I could believe it. I know a little bit about airline employees. Nobody could hijack their own airline, and continue to work for them another 20 years. I don't care if he only worked one route his whole career. Employees train together, have meetings, socialize, etc. Christiansen doesn't match the description or look like him to me. Yeah I saw the History channel do the overlay.

After all, DB said, "I don't have a grudge against your airline," but maybe he should have said "my airline?"

I guess the NG reenactment is off a bit. I haven't seen anywhere when the rainstorm stopped and started. I still like my idea about the flares. At least he had them available if that's what the dynamite was.
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I wonder what the best DF system for Cooper would be.

I prefer a simplistic truncated parabolic, rotating antenna with the ability to attenuate a channelized signal but realize a quarter wavelength dish would be unwieldy.

Using an interferometric array would eliminate rotational mass but increase frontal area and receiver complexity thus creating another compromise.

I think I would choose the system being sold by a blonde, curvy sales’person’ with the most prominent main lobes. Because I’m all about science and the geo-location of VHF ground emissions; as long as geo-location of emissions means hanging with a searing hot chick.

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First, if Cooper were actually Canadian, someone would have figured that out by now. No accent, my eye. I've never met a Canuck I didn't like, and never had one open his/her mouth without knowing right away they were from the Land Up North.

It's one thing to make a mistake. It's quite another to simply make stuff up because it's convenient to your case and might land you a book contract. Consider this:

Has Marla Cooper offered up even one thin scrap of evidence beyond her own word that her uncle was the hijacker? If so, I haven't seen it. She does a lot of appearances, a lot of fluff. But hard evidence is LACKING.

Kenny Christiansen may or may not be the hijacker.

I feel certain that Bernie knows perfectly well Ken Christiansen was the hijacker.

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Blevins, I have personally known Canadians who spoke American English without an accent.

Marla hasn't presented any serious evidence and neither have you.

You state that Christiansen "may or may not be the hijacker" then you state "I feel certain that Bernie knows perfectly well Ken Christiansen was the jijacker".

If you are certain that Bernie knows KC was the hijacker then YOU also know that KC was the hijacker. Either KC was or he wasn't the hijacker, you can't have it both ways.

Here is the acid test. Is there anyone on this thread who would buy a used car from Marla or Blevins?

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Robert99 asks of the peanut gallery:

“Is there anyone on this thread who would buy a used car from Marla or Blevins?”




What would Marla be wearing?



Use your imagination. The chosen wardrobe would probably be appropriate for whatever was being offered for sale.

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I haven't seen anywhere when the rainstorm stopped and started.



Arfuller, There was no storm at 10,000 feet in the Portland area that night. Actually, there was some light rain showers at Portland and plenty of humidity and clouds, but no storm.



That's good news for my flare theory. Just wave the flares when below the cloud level.

I'd buy whatever Marla was selling. Well, if it was legal.
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First, if Cooper were actually Canadian, someone would have figured that out by now. No accent, my eye. I've never met a Canuck I didn't like, and never had one open his/her mouth without knowing right away they were from the Land Up North.

It's one thing to make a mistake. It's quite another to simply make stuff up because it's convenient to your case and might land you a book contract. Consider this:

Has Marla Cooper offered up even one thin scrap of evidence beyond her own word that her uncle was the hijacker? If so, I haven't seen it. She does a lot of appearances, a lot of fluff. But hard evidence is LACKING.

Kenny Christiansen may or may not be the hijacker.

I feel certain that Bernie knows perfectly well Ken Christiansen was the hijacker.

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Blevins, I have personally known Canadians who spoke American English without an accent.

Marla hasn't presented any serious evidence and neither have you.

You state that Christiansen "may or may not be the hijacker" then you state "I feel certain that Bernie knows perfectly well Ken Christiansen was the jijacker".

If you are certain that Bernie knows KC was the hijacker then YOU also know that KC was the hijacker. Either KC was or he wasn't the hijacker, you can't have it both ways.

Here is the acid test. Is there anyone on this thread who would buy a used car from Marla or Blevins?



I'd buy her a few drinks..........................yes............

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I wonder what the best DF system for Cooper would be.

I prefer a simplistic truncated parabolic, rotating antenna with the ability to attenuate a channelized signal but realize a quarter wavelength dish would be unwieldy.

Using an interferometric array would eliminate rotational mass but increase frontal area and receiver complexity thus creating another compromise.

I think I would choose the system being sold by a blonde, curvy sales’person’ with the most prominent main lobes. Because I’m all about science and the geo-location of VHF ground emissions; as long as geo-location of emissions means hanging with a searing hot chick.



Just ride the beam to paradise Farflung.

Think of it as a below minimums IFR approach. Imagine Marla as a GCA controller, eyes glued to the PAR scope, talking you in.

"Air Force 52 Delta, Tulsa approach. Understand you have declared an emergency, the dreaded seven engine approach. You are on course, 100 feet below the glide path."

Can you fill in the rest? A little higher, to the right a bit... Ohhh Farflung.

Have you seen this movie?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyjacked_(film)

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Robert99 asks of the peanut gallery:

“Is there anyone on this thread who would buy a used car from Marla or Blevins?”




What would Marla be wearing?



Actually Marla could make a fortune in sales.

Maybe she already does. She runs a wholesale coffee distribution company.

"Honey, I can explain everything. The price was really good and we'll go through 2000 lbs of Arabica beans in no time.";)

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Orange1 predicts (like a Psychic-k) how Marla would dress as a car salesfox:

Uh, duh. A nun's habit, of course.”

It’s almost like she is monitoring my every move because she is drawn to hunkyness and becoming another victim wrapped in an invisible and un-escapable desire to please me. It happens to so many, tragic to see Marla become another statistic. Maybe I will buy five cars to make her feel better, ya know kinda throw her a bone and do her a big favor.

I’m still studying various car features because of my concern for quality, safety and what vehicle is most appealing to nuns. I found several technical articles which may hint at the standard attire modern car salespeople wear.

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Don't count Marla out. She is smart. She is writing a DBC book. A smart author with a DBC book in progress wouldn't likely set herself up to be shot down by the FBI. If she is seen as a liar, the book is 100% DOA.

Her story about Curtis Ng sounds implausible, but let's see what develops.

I want to question Marla further about radios and the alleged Dewey-LD post jump rendezvous. Farflung has a very different five hour plan.

Blevins has a good point about the rest of Marla's family and their recollections of that fateful night. Where are their corroborating stories?

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Pressurization is yet another ‘headless corpse’ on this thread that is ceaselessly abused. I really don’t understand what the confusion is over except for the standard blinders being worn by those with a pre-plotted scenario with one true answer. Just wait a while and they will attempt to fly some more garbage science under the guise of seeking the truth (they all say it) or refer to the error as small or trivial once exposed (they all say it).



The "pressure bump" is the sole determining factor of where Cooper jumped, in the estimation of practically everyone. FBI tests with the sled "verified" this to the FBI. So, my question is thus: Does pressure bump equal bailout point?

For those skeptics, Cooper could have jumped on the way into Reno at a lower altitude, for all we know.

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Yet...he was the one who dropped off the five grand to his sister. He was the one who tried to cover. He was the one who lied in interviews. He even helped arrange the cash sale of a house for Kenny.
Joe and Ann Grimes, the sellers of the house, were his friends.



WELL!. I can do you better than that on Duane Weber - He loaned his boss 5k on an IOU after 1971. How can a guy who made very little money in a specific yr loan his BOSS 5K.

I can dig that one up and leave out the name of the man he loaned the money to. BLACK and WHITE.

The FBI did NOT even consider Duane's income and that IOU in one yr.
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I am going to get off the computer and start digging.
Really do NOT feel like it but this is important and perhaps JT or someone else needs to remind the FBI to view Weber's spending from 1971 to 1974. I expect the IOU is not the only thing. There was a divorce and the move of the wife to CA. and the ticket later for her daughter to join her and that was way after the fact.

2 vehicles bought and paid for in 1971 - 1972...there was no loan shown on the tax reports.

Santa Santa - you are so Naughty. She was a BAD girl, but she trusted you with her secrets.
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