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QuoteBruce Smith recalls:
“...remember they arrived at Dale Miller's place within the hour when they heard he had LD stuff”
Really? Within an hour? That’s 59 minutes and 59 seconds or less from the deepest and darkest of Portland to wherever Miller lives.Quote
Calm Down Farf - the feddie teddies came from the Springfield field office a few miles away, I was told.
It is my understanding that the Bureau has a small outpost there. No Captain America antics or hyper-dimensional physics were required to gather up LD's toothbrush, combs and what-not. Just a Crown Vic and a grunt.
How about a Haiku to celebrate Sheridan's re-emergence upon our blessed lands?
QuoteQuoteOne says he spotted a parachute deep in the woods and the other says he has found a 1970s-era 20 dollar bill, and is orgainzing a team to go back into the brush to find more...
Can you ask them to look for the Lost Dutchman Mine during their wilderness lunch break?
A Bigfoot pyramid is out there too, I just know it.
Forget Carr and Ng. We need Scully and Mulder.
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Sure thing, Three - Seven -Seven! I could use a gold mine, too! Heck, Jerry has one, why not me?
Anyway, Money man has invited me to go with his group, 377. Wanna come along? Jerry T- How about you?
I say let's challenge Curtis to a trip in the hills. Those SAs gotta get out in the "field" from time to time, right?
QuoteBruce,
It was heartwarming to think of Sheridan Petersons surprise and pleasure in receiving some holiday cheer from his dropzone colleagues.
Thanks for tracking him down and reestablishing a broken connection.
Eagle Eye Pete is a fascinating guy aside and apart from any connection to Cooper. I hope we will hear more from him.Quote
Thanks Mark, and thanks to all who helped me find Sheridan. I appreciate your kind words and support.
Also, Sheridan has asked me again to thank all of you on the DZ for your concern and support. I hope that he will be sharing his thoughts here in the very near future.
Farflung 0
Bruce Smith responds with:
“Calm Down Farf - the feddie teddies came from the Springfield field office a few miles away, I was told.
It is my understanding that the Bureau has a small outpost there. No Captain America antics or hyper-dimensional physics were required to gather up LD's toothbrush, combs and what-not. Just a Crown Vic and a grunt.”
The Amazing Farflungini remains calm in a trance of suspended disbelief which is being tested yet again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi4K9Cus0_g&feature=related
Silence! For The Amazing Farflungini spent several seconds searching the ‘banal’ and could find but one FBI field office for the entire state of Oregon. Silence!
The Amazing Farflungini understands how such information and viewpoints anger and taunt those on the DBC thread as those are normal responses from those seeking the truth. The Amazing Farflungini is endlessly amazed at how little vetting or cross checking is ever accomplished or even considered. Silence!
The Amazing Farflungini requires no address of the FBI ‘ghost office’ any more than a photo of the newly discovered twenty dollar bill or woodland parachute found during the same month as extreme secrecy must be maintained. No man could possibly search for money on his own and forming search teams makes sense….. infinite sense. Silence!
For the Amazing Farflungini knows all too well that….. It’s the pelvic thrust…. That really drives them insane. Let’s do the DZ again, let’s do the DZ again.
“Calm Down Farf - the feddie teddies came from the Springfield field office a few miles away, I was told.
It is my understanding that the Bureau has a small outpost there. No Captain America antics or hyper-dimensional physics were required to gather up LD's toothbrush, combs and what-not. Just a Crown Vic and a grunt.”
The Amazing Farflungini remains calm in a trance of suspended disbelief which is being tested yet again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi4K9Cus0_g&feature=related
Silence! For The Amazing Farflungini spent several seconds searching the ‘banal’ and could find but one FBI field office for the entire state of Oregon. Silence!
The Amazing Farflungini understands how such information and viewpoints anger and taunt those on the DBC thread as those are normal responses from those seeking the truth. The Amazing Farflungini is endlessly amazed at how little vetting or cross checking is ever accomplished or even considered. Silence!
The Amazing Farflungini requires no address of the FBI ‘ghost office’ any more than a photo of the newly discovered twenty dollar bill or woodland parachute found during the same month as extreme secrecy must be maintained. No man could possibly search for money on his own and forming search teams makes sense….. infinite sense. Silence!
For the Amazing Farflungini knows all too well that….. It’s the pelvic thrust…. That really drives them insane. Let’s do the DZ again, let’s do the DZ again.
smokin99 0
Or maybe the FBI has a conspiracy of its own:
http://www.fbi.gov/portland/contact-us/contact
http://www.fbi.gov/portland/contact-us/territory-jurisdiction
Satellite Offices
Along with our main office in Portland, we have five satellite offices, or resident agencies, in the area. Visit the links below for specific contact information and counties covered:
Bend
Eugene
Medford
Pendleton
Salem
Eugene
211 E. 7th Avenue
Suite 320
Eugene, OR 97401
Phone: (541) 343-5222
Counties: Benton, Coos, Douglas, and Lane
No raps with the ruler today, Farflungini, so get that lustful look out of your eye -- everyone drops their pick every now and then. So I'm still a hunkette, right? 
but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill
Georger: Thanks for the holiday wishes. Got a question for you and 377 and all that would like to participate. Lets say it is 1972 a year after the hijacking what qualifications would your prime suspect have to have.What direction would you take this investigation ? What information that was available would be the most important? What would be your most valuable piece of evidence?What would be your favorite clue?Lets see what kind of profile each person can come up with. Jerry
smokin99 0
QuoteOr maybe the FBI has a conspiracy of its own:
http://www.fbi.gov/portland/contact-us/contact
http://www.fbi.gov/portland/contact-us/territory-jurisdiction
Satellite Offices
Along with our main office in Portland, we have five satellite offices, or resident agencies, in the area. Visit the links below for specific contact information and counties covered:
Bend
Eugene
Medford
Pendleton
Salem
Eugene
211 E. 7th Avenue
Suite 320
Eugene, OR 97401
Phone: (541) 343-5222
Counties: Benton, Coos, Douglas, and Lane
No raps with the ruler today, Farflungini, so get that lustful look out of your eye -- everyone drops their pick every now and then. So I'm still a hunkette, right?
ETA: Not to mention I guess the basic premise behind your post (don't believe everything you hear / check your sources, cross-check info) still applies - I see nothing about a satellite in Springfield.
but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill
Farflung 0
Way to go smokin99…… again (emphasis on again).
I have never heard of satellite offices and could not find the information you presented in the form of a clicky URL (I’m humbled and kinda tingly ‘down there’). I am a little bit smarter today thanks to you and the moral of this activity is to check, double check, then expect the unexpected.
You might find it strange, that the front seats of most airliners are occupied by a pair of individuals who do the exact same thing. Yep, one says they just turned a switch, knob or checked a blinking light only to have the other person verify they didn’t just lie about it. Most people consider this ‘overkill’….. most people still want two individuals in those front seats….. most people are sublimely duplicitous too.
Once again, good catch smokin99.
I have never heard of satellite offices and could not find the information you presented in the form of a clicky URL (I’m humbled and kinda tingly ‘down there’). I am a little bit smarter today thanks to you and the moral of this activity is to check, double check, then expect the unexpected.
You might find it strange, that the front seats of most airliners are occupied by a pair of individuals who do the exact same thing. Yep, one says they just turned a switch, knob or checked a blinking light only to have the other person verify they didn’t just lie about it. Most people consider this ‘overkill’….. most people still want two individuals in those front seats….. most people are sublimely duplicitous too.
Once again, good catch smokin99.
Farflung: The FBI does have Satellite offices. As a matter of fact in the state of Washington the FBI has a satellite office in Silverdale. A simple phone call will prove it. Call the Seattle Office ask them what they call there Silverdale Office it is refered to as a Satellite Office. Jerry
Farflung 0
I see that Jerry, you should read smokin99’s previous comment.
A simple URL as source attribution would eliminate a person calling the FBI on a simple phone and allow many others to independently verify the statement. Much quicker, better and cheaper. Although if I made the call, then I could lord over the fact that I just ‘got off the phone’ with the FBI and be all cool and stuff.
A simple URL as source attribution would eliminate a person calling the FBI on a simple phone and allow many others to independently verify the statement. Much quicker, better and cheaper. Although if I made the call, then I could lord over the fact that I just ‘got off the phone’ with the FBI and be all cool and stuff.
Farflung: But you are Cool. Jerry
smokin99 0
.QuoteOnce again, good catch smokin99
Always at your service, Farflungini
Off topic, but about those two front seats.......Know when they started asking for your "identifiers" (usually name and DOB) even as they scan your armband about a million times in the hospital when they give you medication?
And there's supposed to be a "Timeout" in the surgical suite - right before the knife descends - everyone has to agree with what they are in there for --as in "yep it's the left leg that needs to be amputated"? This is after they have identified it with the patient and marked it with a yes before they ever got back to the suite. I'm simplifying a little but all this double-checking is called a "universal" protocol to be done on any surgery dealing with organs / appendages that the body has more than one of. Right?
Well, supposedly healthcare used the airline industry as an example when they first looked at using redundancy as an error reduction strategy.
Unfortunately...what works for the airlines ain't doing so hot in the medical field -- if you can even find good data or anyone willing to be quoted on it -- medical errors, it appears (I would love to be corrected on this) are not going down.
What makes it even worse is that instead of greater transparency aka disclosure, many medical errors (esp those dealing with medication or those that can be downplayed) are continuing to be under-reported.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/the-pain-of-wrong-site-surgery/2011/06/07/AGK3uLdH_story.html
Who knows the reason that what works for one industry (on the whole) doesn't for another? Is it because it's just one ol fat guy on the table - as opposed to a cabin full? Call me perplexed.
but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill
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QuoteGeorger: Thanks for the holiday wishes. Got a question for you and 377 and all that would like to participate. Lets say it is 1972 a year after the hijacking what qualifications would your prime suspect have to have.What direction would you take this investigation ? What information that was available would be the most important? What would be your most valuable piece of evidence?What would be your favorite clue?Lets see what kind of profile each person can come up with. Jerry
Jerry,
A big clue and my favorite is the choice of aircraft. In 1971 very few people knew that a 727 could be jumped. Not one of the three highly trained cockpit crew knew. I was a jumper in 1971 and neither i or any of my jump buddies knew. Cooper, in my opinion, did know. Without that knowledge he'd have been crazy to do the job.
Had he worked for Boeing or one of Air Americas companies?
I can't make a profile without a huge amount of speculation, but here is a guess.
Jumper or aircrew who had worn a chute
Had access to 727 flight test info and or Air America 727 jump info.
One can speculate about grudges, need for money etc, but it's all guesses.
Ted Braden is worth a further look.
377
2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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70/71 static line jump
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYW08S3dAUs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYW08S3dAUs
"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI
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QuoteGeorger: Thanks for the holiday wishes. Got a question for you and 377 and all that would like to participate. Lets say it is 1972 a year after the hijacking what qualifications would your prime suspect have to have.What direction would you take this investigation ? What information that was available would be the most important? What would be your most valuable piece of evidence?What would be your favorite clue?Lets see what kind of profile each person can come up with. Jerry
You know that I favour someone along the lines you
do but smarter, strongest skills social vs technical,
with stress induced borderline personality disorder.
May have a decent education. Talked about hockey
with Tina. Rides horses.
Has no strong accent because he came from
Edmonton, Alberta. Formed a singing duo - Ian and
Sylvia. And his name is: Ian Tyson. Last I knew he
lives in one of the suburns of Toronto. Monroe?
Alberta.
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Ted Braden is worth a further look.
377
Could someone post some more info on Braden? I google'd on him and found that he was special ops and might have jumped from a 727, but not much more.
Was he interviewed by the FBI?
Is he still alive?
Does he have an alibi for Thanksgiving 1971?
Other than possibly have 727 knowledge, is there anything else that would lead one to suspect him?
smokin99 0
QuoteQuoteDon't know much about Braden, except I think he was checked out by the FBI at some point. His supposed alibi was that he was in Nepal at the time of the hijacking. This could be proven by checking his passport for the stamps. If the FBI checked him out, I imagine that's the first thing they would have looked at. Or maybe not. Back in those days, it was much less difficult to move around without bothering to do customs entry. However...on the return to the US, there might be a record. I don't know. It was the 70's. On the other hand, if he WAS in Nepal and took a plane home to the US, then customs entry is pretty much a requirement. You might be able to avoid it if you came home on a ship, depending on the vessel. Wasn't that just a boatload of info? (*smiles*)
I thought it was Sheridan Peterson that was supposed to be in Nepal in 71?but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill
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QuoteQuote
Ted Braden is worth a further look.
377
Could someone post some more info on Braden? I google'd on him and found that he was special ops and might have jumped from a 727, but not much more.
Was he interviewed by the FBI?
Is he still alive?
Does he have an alibi for Thanksgiving 1971?
Other than possibly have 727 knowledge, is there anything else that would lead one to suspect him?
Take a look at these posts:
http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=search_results&search_forum=all&search_string=Ted%20Braden&sb=score&mh=25
377
2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
smokin99 0
QuoteQuote
Ted Braden is worth a further look.
377
Could someone post some more info on Braden? I google'd on him and found that he was special ops and might have jumped from a 727, but not much more.
Was he interviewed by the FBI?
Is he still alive?
Does he have an alibi for Thanksgiving 1971?
Other than possibly have 727 knowledge, is there anything else that would lead one to suspect him?
Search on him here in the DZ and you will likely find more info -- or links to info at least. See search options at bottom of page. But basically he is considered in the running because of his background, description, he had a grudge (lol...but who doesn't), a lot of folks that knew him said they thought he might be the one. Don't think he's still alive. Not sure on the alibi or whether he was ever an official suspect. Sorry not more help but that's all I remember off the cuff at the moment.
ETA -- I see 377 found some posts for you. I would've been nicer and done that too..but I got this friggin sciatic nerve thing that is interfering with my ability to enjoy my weekend and, thus, to be a good person.
Even my family members have left the building - no one wants to be in my little kingdom right now.
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but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill
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QuoteAs far as the technical end of things, (whether 727 could be jumped) Bernie Geestman worked on the 727 program and probably heard about the flight tests with the airstairs open. Nothing much was a secret to the employees regarding development, and it was probably mentioned in the employee newsletter anyway.)
Blevins, I think the facts would disagree with your statements above. Any program that the CIA is running is going to have restrictions on information release. And if the company's general empoyees are blabbing about such a program, then actions are going to be taken both by Boeing and the CIA to correct the situation.
"Nothing much was a secret to the employees regarding development, ...". This is nonsense. There is a story that during the development of the original 707, the President of Boeing turned up at the development site for the 707 without the appropriate company badge. He was not permitted to enter.
"and it was probably mentioned in the employee newsletter anyway." You are not going to find CIA programs in the 1960s and 1970s mentioned in company's newsletter. In fact the Boeing newsletters for that time frame are probably extant. Why don't you see if you can find that mention?
http://themountainnewswa.net/2012/01/07/a-basket-of-cheer-for-sheridan/#more-4433
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