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Good post, Jo. I'm curious about 1960-66 and possible California connections as John Collins to McCoy. I have references but no info at all. Talked to Terry M. but all he had was Colorado history and Maggie. Mac said he knew John in California. It is all blank.



I have absolutely NO idea what you are talking about.
Duane did NOT know McCoy and you KNOW that. BULL!
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Since Knoss isn't going away, and Quade is reluctant to rid us of him, then the only answer is to ignore his claims until he comes with something besides "it happened this way because I say so."



Ditto on that! Knoss has trashed this thread the way he trashed every Cooper site he was allowed to participate in.

This is a damn shame because before Knoss at least individuals who had something to contribute - had a place to do so. Since Knoss came here - the thread has been in shambles

No one wants to tread thru all of the MUD that Knoss has put on this case.

Every time Knoss learns something new about Weber - suddenly he invents a connection to McCoy or someone else. Note his description of Duane with the Blonde hair and the fair complexion and make-up being use went out the window when the pictures showing my complexion in comparison to Webers were posted.

I hope now you guys understand the obstacle place before me when I tried to research Duane's past. Weber was the best suspect the FBI ever had until Knoss destroyed that. Knoss is out to destroy the Cooper story no matter who the suspect is - but WHY?

What we are experiencing on this thread is exactly what the FBI had to put up with when Knoss contacted them.
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Georger has been a pain sometimes, but at least he tried to stay on track and share his knowledge, but easily agitated by others. I like Georger because I think I understand him.

Blevins got hooked into the story and convinced himself KC was Cooper, but has seen and read things on this thread and reflected his uncertainty. He tried to tone down the TOOTING of his book and KC, but he has an investment as he did write a book. He realizes he made lots of mistakes and toned down his views.

377 has just been holding back, but we all know he is reading what is being posted. He like others is tried of the banter Knoss has created. 377 always took a neutral ground, but a very knowledgeable man and jumper.

Mrshutter took on Knoss - Mrshutter must have the patience of a God.

Matt (sorry I forgot your handle) has always tried to help make logical presentations.

Robert 99 - ditto same as Matt and a knowledgeable man on the subject.

Homid - very intelligent postings.

Sluggo - we all miss his knowledge and wish him well.

The young man who worked so hard on the money find and experiments - the one who did a tunnel jump for the first time. Sorry. but I don't recall his posting title.

I can't thank all of you by name because my memory is creeping away from me on a daily basis, but Thank YOU to ALL of you for putting up with my persistence.

Thank you for the constructive posts (good and bad) and for the support even when I went off on a tangent or into La La land with some of this.

[:/]Each and everyone of you knew I was the only one here with a very personal agenda...to find out who I spent 17 yrs of my life with? Now I wonder why I have spent 17 mores yrs of my life chasing this the way I did. Had I have had the ability to communicate the knowledge of my memories carefully and orderly, this could have been over yrs ago. Some obstacles where put in before me...and perhaps that too will be explained in the near future.

The roads pointed out to me on the thread and the excellent research done by many of you who did NOT believe Duane Weber could be Cooper, but could NOT dismiss him has been appreciated. Even those who dismissed him have had to ponder - WHY is she doing this? How can she do this? What is driving her?

;)Was Weber actually Cooper or was he a practical joker who played a joke on his wife? Is his wife trying to capitalize on Cooper? How can she constantly and consistently keep this up?

Well, she can't - she is very very tired, but at least there are those who now see what I have known all along. It is time the story was told - the man without a past did indeed have a past, but one not easily followed. Recent events - and discoveries are now setting me free.

I do have 2 last things I have to do and both of those will be in WA as soon as I am able to make that trip and find the money to do so. It will be very private and there will be NO cameras or media - this trip will be just as quiet as my last trip in 2010. You will know I have been there, but only on the last day...and then Jo Weber can let go.

:|Duane's remains will be left in WA - because that is where he expected to die or should have died. I haven't decide where in WA that should be yet, but maybe it would be fitting for his ashes to be scattered all across Clark County.

This has been a long and hard day - I am very tired. I hope Knoss will leave you guys alone and let you continue your quest in a sober and intelligent manner. Would be nice to see the thread to continue until the truth is exposed, but there are those determined not to allow this to be the case. That is their problem - not, mine.

:)You'll Never Know if You Don't Know Now. I think the fat lady is singing that song now.

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The young man who worked so hard on the money find and experiments - the one who did a tunnel jump for the first time. Sorry. but I don't recall his posting title.

I can't thank all of you



That was SafecrackingPLF, the young man you are thinking of.

You are forgetting Snowmman.

Many many others of note.

Not sure you will answer but where (what area) of KY
do you come from? Ive always been a little curious
about that. Years ago I had connections at Murray
and Murray State. Should I ask: which basketball
faction of immortals do you back in KY! :D

Many good memories in Murray and at Ken Lake.
We were young and crazy then. You know Murray
was in a dry county, if you recall. Thank God for
Fulton TN just across the line!

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Good post, Jo. I'm curious about 1960-66 and possible California connections as John Collins to McCoy. I have references but no info at all. Talked to Terry M. but all he had was Colorado history and Maggie. Mac said he knew John in California. It is all blank.



I have absolutely NO idea what you are talking about.
Duane did NOT know McCoy and you KNOW that. BULL!



I do not wish to argue, but I WILL NOT tell an untruth about this Cooper thing. I am preparing a formal document of identification of Duane Weber as Dan Cooper in 1968. I KNOW that McCoy was the one who got his deal for him, got him out of Jefferson, gave him the rifle to destroy, and put him in Project Norjak. I KNOW Mac missed Duane by one day in New Orleans. I KNOW that Mac introduced Marjorie to Duane. I know Duane wrote a letter about Mac's 'death', etc. I KNOW that you know because you confirmed it. Mac said he worked with Duane before and expected to find him in California as John Collins, but actually found him in Missouri as Duane Weber. (NOT JOHN COLLINS!) Mac never told me what they did together, but Mac, being the same age as me, would have been in the service starting around 1961 at the earliest. He got two weeks in a Mexican jail for a bar fight in those early years. His only bad mark on his military record. They were not 'friends' in the true sense of the word. Mac was his "handler". And they ABSOLUTELY did know each other, and it can be proven many times over. Mac's Brigham Young Medallion, for one. Karen, number two, TOG and me for three, his letter for four. The rifle for five. It is almost an endless list. The Insurance job, Bloomington, Maggie, Cleveland. Nichols, on and on. Why did you make such an obviously untruthful statement?
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Every time Knoss learns something new about Weber - suddenly he invents a connection to McCoy or someone else. Note his description of Duane with the Blonde hair and the fair complexion and make-up being use went out the window when the pictures showing my complexion in comparison to Webers were posted.
___________________________________________
You did not win the argument. It was as I said. I stand by my statement. I could add, for your edification, that by the end of the summer your claims would be more accurate than my earlier observations. Some things are fluid. My first impressions of him were of a younger person because he smiled a lot. Had a magnetic smile that lit up his face. By the end of the summer I was more familiar with a straight faced older man with fewer smiles and a more tanned complexion. The tan aged him 20 years it seemed. Not a spiffy dresser, baggy old pants and scuffed shoes. Long billed golf cap. Not the same cheerful guy. That was about the time his wife and her boyfriend absconded with the rent money from 21 apartments at $105 each. Not much. Mac caught her the next week and brought her back. "What a bitch!" Mac said. I seem to remember Niagra Falls? Maybe not.

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I would trust you or Mattie with ANYTHING. I give you my hometown and you release a smear campaign to the editor of my hometown paper, my religious education teacher!

You, Sir, are a SNAKE!

It is your sworn duty, with your trainee, Mattie (who is a failure) to bury the truth about the Cooper hijacking for your exhaulted leader. EVERY SINGLE offering of truth, no matter how insignificant, is met with a major attack from you. You even tried to frame me with your other sight, posting false statements, then blaming me.

You take on the task of propagating a hoax about KC at the request of his brother, Lyle, after I got the proposal myself. Gray confirmed your guilt.

Any and all effort contributed is strictly on COVER-UP. If you are an advocate, we can all assume it is BULLSHET, and everyone does, automatically. You have NO credibility, only a reputation. They make fun of you on every other site. You have become the laughing stock of Cooperdom.

There is absolutely no question about my information. It is absolute truth, and I believe it is correct. There is a difference. I KNOW that everything that comes from your mouth is pre-digested, and most of it processed.

I suspect never before in history has so much effort been spent on trying to bury the truth of such a minor crime. The reason for that is that it was not really a crime, but, as I stated, a Government attempt to sway opinion. It is ridiculously obvious. Besides, I know that's what happened because I saw and heard and was told everything. So, bite me Bleep. Your thingy is up. You can't keep a promise. Time to email Gayla again.

As Sluggo tried to tell you over a year ago, you
are not CENTRAL to anything, except in your mind.
And now, if what Im told is true, you are behind the
last on the list, of those with whom XXXXX (TOG) would
ever chose to deal with ... and that is the truth
and you are central in that one!

I.,E., YOU ARE FIRED!! GET A JOB!!!

Sounds like you got your thingy in a slingy!

Robert99 says: Surely a couple of "queens" such as yourselves can come up with such simple information.

OMG!!!! Is this TRUE ??? QUEENIES ??? Could it be?



Why don't you get your head out of your ass and grow up?

Post the truth ONCE in this thread so it can be looked at.

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My offer to do the math for the Release point and LZ still stands, yet none of the trip queens can agree on ANY weather, even though there is a a record of it, it is called wrong, by people who weren't even there.

So, some one get the winds aloft, I will do the math.
Some one get the point over the ground that the A/C reported the "bump" when they believe "Cooper" exited.

Then I will give you a pretty accurate search grid.

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I agree with this concept, and I think it would help. Believe it or not, I think Georger has info on this.



Matt and Blevins, Where have you two been for the past year or two?

Didn't you notice any number or posts by Hominid a few weeks ago about the weather? And he included a discussion about the winds aloft using information from people who were there and measured the actual weather parameters.

The mathematics of the jump are simple. It is just what the clock read and the VOR and DME receivers read at the time of the jump that you need to come up with.

Surely a couple of "queens" such as yourselves can come up with such simple information. At least give it a try.



"Queens"? your homophobia is exposed. Nice PA, you lowered your self to BK. Sad.

Problem with the weather your alluding to here, no one agrees with it!

BK says the science is a cover up, others are trying to say their memory from 40 years ago is better than the written reports.

The math for this has existed long before cooper was a wet spot on his mommies bed sheet. True, it is easy, so who already did it?

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Good post, Jo. I'm curious about 1960-66 and possible California connections as John Collins to McCoy. I have references but no info at all. Talked to Terry M. but all he had was Colorado history and Maggie. Mac said he knew John in California. It is all blank.



I have absolutely NO idea what you are talking about.
Duane did NOT know McCoy and you KNOW that. BULL!



I do not wish to argue, but I WILL NOT tell an untruth about this Cooper thing. I am preparing a formal document of identification of Duane Weber as Dan Cooper in 1968. I KNOW that McCoy was the one who got his deal for him, got him out of Jefferson, gave him the rifle to destroy, and put him in Project Norjak. I KNOW Mac missed Duane by one day in New Orleans. I KNOW that Mac introduced Marjorie to Duane. I know Duane wrote a letter about Mac's 'death', etc. I KNOW that you know because you confirmed it. Mac said he worked with Duane before and expected to find him in California as John Collins, but actually found him in Missouri as Duane Weber. (NOT JOHN COLLINS!) Mac never told me what they did together, but Mac, being the same age as me, would have been in the service starting around 1961 at the earliest. He got two weeks in a Mexican jail for a bar fight in those early years. His only bad mark on his military record. They were not 'friends' in the true sense of the word. Mac was his "handler". And they ABSOLUTELY did know each other, and it can be proven many times over. Mac's Brigham Young Medallion, for one. Karen, number two, TOG and me for three, his letter for four. The rifle for five. It is almost an endless list. The Insurance job, Bloomington, Maggie, Cleveland. Nichols, on and on. Why did you make such an obviously untruthful statement?
____________________________________________
Every time Knoss learns something new about Weber - suddenly he invents a connection to McCoy or someone else. Note his description of Duane with the Blonde hair and the fair complexion and make-up being use went out the window when the pictures showing my complexion in comparison to Webers were posted.
___________________________________________
You did not win the argument. It was as I said. I stand by my statement. I could add, for your edification, that by the end of the summer your claims would be more accurate than my earlier observations. Some things are fluid. My first impressions of him were of a younger person because he smiled a lot. Had a magnetic smile that lit up his face. By the end of the summer I was more familiar with a straight faced older man with fewer smiles and a more tanned complexion. The tan aged him 20 years it seemed. Not a spiffy dresser, baggy old pants and scuffed shoes. Long billed golf cap. Not the same cheerful guy. That was about the time his wife and her boyfriend absconded with the rent money from 21 apartments at $105 each. Not much. Mac caught her the next week and brought her back. "What a bitch!" Mac said. I seem to remember Niagra Falls? Maybe not.



When will we see your fiction at Books-a-Million?
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My offer to do the math for the Release point and LZ still stands, yet none of the trip queens can agree on ANY weather, even though there is a a record of it, it is called wrong, by people who weren't even there.

So, some one get the winds aloft, I will do the math.
Some one get the point over the ground that the A/C reported the "bump" when they believe "Cooper" exited.

Then I will give you a pretty accurate search grid.

Matt



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I agree with this concept, and I think it would help. Believe it or not, I think Georger has info on this.



Matt and Blevins, Where have you two been for the past year or two?

Didn't you notice any number or posts by Hominid a few weeks ago about the weather? And he included a discussion about the winds aloft using information from people who were there and measured the actual weather parameters.

The mathematics of the jump are simple. It is just what the clock read and the VOR and DME receivers read at the time of the jump that you need to come up with.

Surely a couple of "queens" such as yourselves can come up with such simple information. At least give it a try.



"Queens"? your homophobia is exposed. Nice PA, you lowered your self to BK. Sad.

Problem with the weather your alluding to here, no one agrees with it!

BK says the science is a cover up, others are trying to say their memory from 40 years ago is better than the written reports.

The math for this has existed long before cooper was a wet spot on his mommies bed sheet. True, it is easy, so who already did it?

Matt



Matt,

You need to start reading your own posts. In the first sentence of this post, you introduce the word "queens". So are you actually complaining about yourself?

You write: "Problem with the weather your alluding to here, no one agrees with it!" In reality, only people who can't read weather data disagree with it.

Hominid used valid weather information and drew valid conclusions from that information. Maybe you should take a look at what Hominid did.

Also, the FBI has a predicted jump point and drop zone for Cooper dating back to 1971. This chart is posted on Sluggo's web page.

You really need to do more research to expand your horizons.

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"When will we see your fiction at Books-a-Million?" Why do you care? You have major problems with one sentence at a time. I'll bet if you took a reading comprehension course you'd develop a better outlook on life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtkHW-RtTv0&feature=autoplay&list=PLB6C45677137A55F0&lf=results_main&playnext=3



"Queens"? your homophobia is exposed. Nice PA, you lowered your self to BK. Sad.

Problem with the weather your alluding to here, no one agrees with it!

BK says the science is a cover up, others are trying to say their memory from 40 years ago is better than the written reports. The math for this has existed long before cooper xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. True, it is easy, so who already did it?

Matt

Our reluctance is not with the math, Matt. It's with the Matt math. The original path is a lie as plotted. The plane was flown by hand and mental calculation with false wind reports. You do not have true data to work with. Get it? No, I'm sure you don't.

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My offer to do the math for the Release point and LZ still stands, yet none of the trip queens can agree on ANY weather, even though there is a a record of it, it is called wrong, by people who weren't even there.

So, some one get the winds aloft, I will do the math.
Some one get the point over the ground that the A/C reported the "bump" when they believe "Cooper" exited.

Then I will give you a pretty accurate search grid.

Matt



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I agree with this concept, and I think it would help. Believe it or not, I think Georger has info on this.



Matt and Blevins, Where have you two been for the past year or two?

Didn't you notice any number or posts by Hominid a few weeks ago about the weather? And he included a discussion about the winds aloft using information from people who were there and measured the actual weather parameters.

The mathematics of the jump are simple. It is just what the clock read and the VOR and DME receivers read at the time of the jump that you need to come up with.

Surely a couple of "queens" such as yourselves can come up with such simple information. At least give it a try.



"Queens"? your homophobia is exposed. Nice PA, you lowered your self to BK. Sad.

Problem with the weather your alluding to here, no one agrees with it!

BK says the science is a cover up, others are trying to say their memory from 40 years ago is better than the written reports.

The math for this has existed long before cooper was a wet spot on his mommies bed sheet. True, it is easy, so who already did it?

Matt



Matt,

You need to start reading your own posts. In the first sentence of this post, you introduce the word "queens". So are you actually complaining about yourself?

You write: "Problem with the weather your alluding to here, no one agrees with it!" In reality, only people who can't read weather data disagree with it.

Hominid used valid weather information and drew valid conclusions from that information. Maybe you should take a look at what Hominid did.

Also, the FBI has a predicted jump point and drop zone for Cooper dating back to 1971. This chart is posted on Sluggo's web page.

You really need to do more research to expand your horizons.



YOU introduced "Queens" to this thread as an insult, and thus became no better than BK. Look at the quoted text, you wrote it, remember?

If I missed the accepted data and the accepted exit and landing zone posts, I apologize. But one can hardly be blamed given the amount of trash clogging this thread.

Now, if there is an accepted posting of the Data and its results, why does any one give credence to the fluffers and their garbage?


@ BK, go away, there are adults having a conversation, it obviously is too hard for your maturity level to comprehend. Go take another hit, and a sit. Maybe you should come back when your maturity equals your age.

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My offer to do the math for the Release point and LZ still stands, yet none of the trip queens can agree on ANY weather, even though there is a a record of it, it is called wrong, by people who weren't even there.

So, some one get the winds aloft, I will do the math.
Some one get the point over the ground that the A/C reported the "bump" when they believe "Cooper" exited.

Matt,

Again, you introduced the word "queens" and I doubt if you intended "trip queens" as anything but an insult.

You also write: "Now, if there is an accepted posting of the Data and its results, why does anyone give credence to the fluffers and their garbage?"

Only the fluffers give credence to their own garbage. And they do that only because they don't like the results from the valid data.

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My offer to do the math for the Release point and LZ still stands, yet none of the trip queens can agree on ANY weather, even though there is a a record of it, it is called wrong, by people who weren't even there.

So, some one get the winds aloft, I will do the math.
Some one get the point over the ground that the A/C reported the "bump" when they believe "Cooper" exited.

Matt,

Again, you introduced the word "queens" and I doubt if you intended "trip queens" as anything but an insult.

You also write: "Now, if there is an accepted posting of the Data and its results, why does anyone give credence to the fluffers and their garbage?"

Only the fluffers give credence to their own garbage. And they do that only because they don't like the results from the valid data.



What is interesting is "trip queens" is not what I wrote. I have no reason or explanation as to why it says that.

So since it started that whole side tangent, I apologize, my fault.

Nice "turn around" with it though.

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My offer to do the math for the Release point and LZ still stands, yet none of the trip queens can agree on ANY weather, even though there is a a record of it, it is called wrong, by people who weren't even there.

So, some one get the winds aloft, I will do the math.
Some one get the point over the ground that the A/C reported the "bump" when they believe "Cooper" exited.

Matt,

Again, you introduced the word "queens" and I doubt if you intended "trip queens" as anything but an insult.

You also write: "Now, if there is an accepted posting of the Data and its results, why does anyone give credence to the fluffers and their garbage?"

Only the fluffers give credence to their own garbage. And they do that only because they don't like the results from the valid data.



What is interesting is "trip queens" is not what I wrote. I have no reason or explanation as to why it says that.

So since it started that whole side tangent, I apologize, my fault.

Nice "turn around" with it though.

Matt



Matt,

You started using the term "trip queens" in your post no. 33752, dated April 16, 2012, in replying to a post from mrshutter45.

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My offer to do the math for the Release point and LZ still stands, yet none of the trip queens can agree on ANY weather, even though there is a a record of it, it is called wrong, by people who weren't even there.

So, some one get the winds aloft, I will do the math.
Some one get the point over the ground that the A/C reported the "bump" when they believe "Cooper" exited.

Matt,

Again, you introduced the word "queens" and I doubt if you intended "trip queens" as anything but an insult.

You also write: "Now, if there is an accepted posting of the Data and its results, why does anyone give credence to the fluffers and their garbage?"

Only the fluffers give credence to their own garbage. And they do that only because they don't like the results from the valid data.



What is interesting is "trip queens" is not what I wrote. I have no reason or explanation as to why it says that.

So since it started that whole side tangent, I apologize, my fault.

Nice "turn around" with it though.

Matt



Matt,

You started using the term "trip queens" in your post no. 33752, dated April 16, 2012, in replying to a post from mrshutter45.



I just acknowledged that, and apologized for the mistake, in the post you just quoted.

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That was SafecrackingPLF, the young man you are thinking of.

You are forgetting Snowmman.

Many many others of note.

Not sure you will answer but where (what area) of KY
do you come from? Ive always been a little curious
about that. Years ago I had connections at Murray
and Murray State. Should I ask: which basketball
faction of immortals do you back in KY! :D

Many good memories in Murray and at Ken Lake.
We were young and crazy then. You know Murray
was in a dry county, if you recall. Thank God for
Fulton TN just across the line!



You do not allow PM's and some information I do NOT make public. Really had NO idea you had any connection to Murray - so do I, but that is NOT the College I attended.

I left KY when I was 19 yrs old when my parents retired with a 4 yr old and then produced another sibling brother in 1960 AFTER they retired. 4 of us were born and raised in KY...and the connection to MURRAY is a PM only information. Professors were NOT ban from dating students back then.

You know an individual connected to Murray and UK who had your similar and same interest? I am speaking of astronomy. If you want to know more - open your PM to me for a couple of days.

Lots of counties were dry in the 50's such as Casey County where one set of my grandparents lived.
Marion County was wet.

Young and crazy - late 50's to early 60's - diving off of a pillar into a lake near Center College into shallow water on a dare. This pillar was behind one of the lake cottages owned by a fraternity...summer of 58. I was trying to impress a frat guy.

Now talk to me in a PM if only to answer your question then block me again. Give me a couple of days to tell you some stories and share some names. Nothing about Cooper - just KY and Murray.

My brother recently attended a basketball game in Bowling Green. Bowling Green is my father's Alma Mater. He had a college degree during a time most did NOT even have the opportunity of obtaining an 8th grade education and used it to breed cattle. My old birthplace is still sought out for pictures in my hometown. I was born in the front bedroom of this unique home.
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:(:(Knoss makes a long post about Weber in 1968 and McCoy and Marjorie and California and Maggie and Nickols - MORE and MORE of his garbage. I do not know nor have any of these individuals been associated with Weber/Collins.

:D:DHe tops it off with dyed Blonde hair - what a hoot!
In the 60's - with blonde hair and Duane's complexion...the look would have been freaky even for a circus. That look would have belonged in a House of HORRORs!

Then he tops off this story with a fraudulent story about Duane's wife of the time. One G.Grey has found NO validation of.

Did you know her son reads this thread? Well, you do now and I hope their attorney is a good one.
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If you take notes of most of Knoss's postings you will become amazed how much he slips up, similar to a criminal who thinks he is smarter than the cop!

Jan 5, 2012 "I was subsequently tried by Commander John Anderson and convicted of threatening my draftboard"

3 days ago he says this; "I don't think court hearing is an accurate description. I was hypnotized then questioned under hypnosis. I was told I was found guilty and not to argue about it" "Commander Anderson read the sentence"

the first post he says Anderson tried and convicted him, making it sound all formal. the second post was a poor attempt of remembering the first post! he has a pattern of this and doesn't realize it! just as he quickly scrambled about the classification status after I asked him about going in front of the board to submit the C.O. (conscientious objector)

Also, Expunged; that is a Judicial term that he really shouldn't have used because that only makes your records disappear from the public, he would of been better off saying they were destroyed or in a high security level, such as his entire case would have been classified as!

forgot to put this in Robert; do we really need another false statement from him? we can't expect the truth!
"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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Bob Knoss says in part, in his attempt to link Duane Weber and The Dead Guy (Richard McCoy):

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'...The rifle for five.'



WHAT rifle? And why was it necessary to destroy it?



Yes. I hate to be redundant...but again...the question above? It's simple enough, Mr Knoss.




Because he has to check his memory at the door lest he loose it as he has before. He has already screwed up trying to put Weber in CA when B.Kennedy got killed. Didn't happen!

Also what NO one knows is that I have a photo of Duane Weber (not a good one) taken when he was released from Jefferson. NO way that man ever had BLONDE hair and make-up. I have never been able to expose the photo because he has his arms around the neck of his wife and the sister-in-law is with them. It is also very grainy. I have no idea who took the photo. The ex-wife sent me this photo as she did the others...she for some reason sent me the originals.

She had somethng else for me before she died - but I called 2 hour 2 late. I coveted my privacy and respected my current spouse to the point I refused to give her my address...or to provide her with a number she could call me at - something I still regret, but my first allegiance was to my husband and that is as it should be.
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BobKnoss, thanks for being a good sport about my post. You took it in stride...MeyerLouie




PPPFFFTTTT!! That's a pat on the back. Look at the dribble they are spouting now. Gotta be awful hard up for ammunition. I stand by EVERYTHING I have said, if you put it in the original context. Pretty hard to badmouth the truth and keep a straight face. But they just keep on keepin' on. They refuse to verify anything but their tunnel vision perspectives. And, of course, that is always iron clad proof positive when they have NOTHING! Their charade is so comical and amateurish it makes the Three Stooges look like Sherlock and Watson! The FBI just scoffs it off.

I have shown some weak areas of the cover-up and they rush to dam up the leaks and alter more information. Nobody will discuss the "Radio-Active" topics, because they know I'm lying in wait with the documentation.

The tie clasp is late entry swap-out for the real evidence that McCoy now has had returned.

Janet showed the true flight path, confirmed and confirmed and confirmed.

The Montreal Convention tells the tale.

The Cooper Vane explains the beginning thoughts.

The James Earl Ray double connection opens a bigger can of worms.

The two rifles expose unfound evidence trails.

The Walker double connection exposes associations in undercover activities.

"Once there was one, now there are three...."
Richard Floyd, Tommy Gunn, and me.....

Admitted lie after lie are followed by more and more obvious coverups, completely destroying any credibility whatsoever by our premiere storytellers on this venue.

My information, with the exception of Nixon's pilot statement, remains pristine. I still think that happened, but I'm not leaving money on the table, there. The tape might get re-run.

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"Because he has to check his memory at the door lest he loose it as he has before. He has already screwed up trying to put Weber in CA when B.Kennedy got killed. Didn't happen!"

Thank you for volunteering. I made no such suggestion. Did not say a word. Not one word! Not about Rev. King or the Attorney General. That is your bag, not my cup of tea. Talk to Judge Joe Brown. Now, I did know Raul Raoul with a patch on one eye in Montreal. And he did tell me a long story. But I don't want to go there. Others can. Search it. I'll just stay with this leaky sieve story about Dan Cooper loosing $165,000 through pure stupidity. I like funny stuff, that is not so dangerous.

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If you take notes of most of Knoss's postings you will become amazed how much he slips up, similar to a criminal who thinks he is smarter than the cop!

It has nothing to do with intelligence, it has to do with knowledge of facts.

Jan 5, 2012 "I was subsequently tried by Commander John Anderson and convicted of threatening my draftboard" 3 days ago he says this; "I don't think court hearing is an accurate description. I was hypnotized then questioned under hypnosis. I was told I was found guilty and not to argue about it" "Commander Anderson read the sentence" the first post he says Anderson tried and convicted him, making it sound all formal. the second post was a poor attempt of remembering the first post! he has a pattern of this and doesn't realize it! just as he quickly scrambled about the classification status after I asked him about going in front of the board to submit the C.O. (conscientious objector)

Better re-read the posts. You are splitting hairs in a bucket of barbershop floor sweepings. Insignificant to anything.

Also, Expunged; that is a Judicial term that he really shouldn't have used because that only makes your records disappear from the public, he would of been better off saying they were destroyed or in a high security level, such as his entire case would have been classified as!

McCoy had a few grammatical errors in his typical speech, just as you do. His reports are poorly written as is his plea to the judge.

forgot to put this in Robert; do we really need another false statement from him? we can't expect the truth!

Another dyslexic statement. "Do we really need more truth from him? Seems he won't buy any of our cover-up!" Can you investigate some of the worthwhile subjects Mr. McCoy has mentioned? He would love the publicity you would get.

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If you take notes of most of Knoss's postings you will become amazed how much he slips up, similar to a criminal who thinks he is smarter than the cop!

It has nothing to do with intelligence, it has to do with knowledge of facts.

Jan 5, 2012 "I was subsequently tried by Commander John Anderson and convicted of threatening my draftboard" 3 days ago he says this; "I don't think court hearing is an accurate description. I was hypnotized then questioned under hypnosis. I was told I was found guilty and not to argue about it" "Commander Anderson read the sentence" the first post he says Anderson tried and convicted him, making it sound all formal. the second post was a poor attempt of remembering the first post! he has a pattern of this and doesn't realize it! just as he quickly scrambled about the classification status after I asked him about going in front of the board to submit the C.O. (conscientious objector)

Better re-read the posts. You are splitting hairs in a bucket of barbershop floor sweepings. Insignificant to anything.

Also, Expunged; that is a Judicial term that he really shouldn't have used because that only makes your records disappear from the public, he would of been better off saying they were destroyed or in a high security level, such as his entire case would have been classified as!

McCoy had a few grammatical errors in his typical speech, just as you do. His reports are poorly written as is his plea to the judge.

forgot to put this in Robert; do we really need another false statement from him? we can't expect the truth!

Another dyslexic statement. "Do we really need more truth from him? Seems he won't buy any of our cover-up!" Can you investigate some of the worthwhile subjects Mr. McCoy has mentioned? He would love the publicity you would get.



And more aphorisms, parables, and quantrains,
from the nimble-inflexible Knosstradamus. This
remindsme of the Newton-Hooke debates except
this is Oiville vs Toiville, sorting through garbage
in a Cooper dumpster.

And Blevins will have something 'catastophic' to
add urgency to the garage sorting - !

I remind you all none of this is in the Cooper comic
script, or on some stele at Mothra-Khotep - or is it?

We need a new SEM and a new Stele interpreter,
before the Earth is reduced to rubble by a Cooperoid.

It could be something as simple as: PCD!
Peripheral Cooper Disease
(patent pending@Georger).

:D

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I am so very tired of his bull.

The thread has been completely destroyed by B.KNOSS. The DZ was kind enough to provided this medium for us to explore subjects and the facts, but Knoss has demolished the thread and our only open avenue of explorations into this case.

This man has taken snipets of things he has read and been told and contrived a complete fiction regarding Weber. I have a feeling this is DELIBERATE.

I made a statement a long time ago, but forgot how it was worded. Perhaps the FBI didn't know who Cooper was in the beginning, but when Weber was presented as a suspect they had to make it go away. Weber was a criminal, but a lot of his past was spent trying to make his wrongs and being wronged right. (crazy statement but I will explain - someday).

He had a grudge because the system was NOT "just" in his case during the early yrs - the tags placed on him by the Navy and then the Army made his being "somebody" almost impossible. His own father disowned him.

He went from just being a kid who was wronged to a man who did wrong - made a living anyway he could - and took relentlessly without regard to his hurting others. He became lost in the system.
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