DB Cooper

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"Background on Camp Bonneville and cleanup
Camp Bonneville is located in southeastern Clark County, Washington, about 12 miles east of Vancouver and seven miles north of the Columbia River. It was established in 1909 as a drill field and rifle range for Vancouver Barracks and has been used primarily as a training camp for various branches of the military. The property is largely undeveloped; more than half of its six square miles is forested.

Since the U.S. Army closed Camp Bonneville in 1995, the 3,840-acre property has captured the imagination of hikers, equestrians, parks planners, wildlife enthusiasts, campers, Native American groups and many others."

http://www.clark.wa.gov/publicworks/bonneville/index.html

Matt

An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!

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Jo,

If I may paraphrase a little:

Duane went to prison.
Got work detailed to fight fires, or support that effort. With his ethnic look, at certain times of the year, and after out door work and sun exposure, was working with the 555th (Which history shows was in the region, it is well documented and discussed at 555th Reunions, I have attended two of those).
Here he picked up his knowledge of parachuting.
Later, in prison again, he picked up the idea of a hijacking.
Later he committed the hijacking, alone, keeping the money for himself and escaped the woods and many years later meets you marries you and then confesses to you, mostly, just before passing away.

Kind of, sort of?

Matt

An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!

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"Radios were all double as back-up providing the ability to triangulate from a fixed point to any location by signal directions. I was given an example and we were within 50 feet of our target in heavy fog from 500 miles."

No way. I know quite a bit about 70s radio direction finding technology, both civilian and military, nulling loops, Doppler, Watson Watt types etc, BK's DF accuracy claim is BS. Even phase interferometry techniques couldn't give you that accuracy at 500 miles. Not even close.

When BK strays into tech he stumbles: witness his claimed use of a chest reserve as a back mounted chute for the DBC jump. In radio direction finding he makes similar mistakes.

377

2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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"Background on Camp Bonneville and cleanup
Camp Bonneville is located in southeastern Clark County, Washington, about 12 miles east of Vancouver and seven miles north of the Columbia River. It was established in 1909 as a drill field and rifle range for Vancouver Barracks and has been used primarily as a training camp for various branches of the military. The property is largely undeveloped; more than half of its six square miles is forested.

Since the U.S. Army closed Camp Bonneville in 1995, the 3,840-acre property has captured the imagination of hikers, equestrians, parks planners, wildlife enthusiasts, campers, Native American groups and many others."

http://www.clark.wa.gov/publicworks/bonneville/index.html

Matt

In addition to the information Matt came up with in the above link, Camp Bonneville Military Reservation is plotted on page 109 of the Washington Road and Recreation Atlas, although it is not listed in the index.

So the "locals" still living in that general area who had never heard of it are probably in cahoots with the FBI and writing a book on the Cooper hijacking to boot.

Now if Jo can now somehow dispose of the other 900+ candidates who have claimed to be D. B. Cooper, she can continue to claim that Duane Weber is "The One True D. B. Cooper Hijacker", release her book with the same title for publication, appear on all the talk shows, and finally have her 15 minutes of fame.

As for the real D. B. Cooper, his bones are still out there somewhere.

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No evidence of chem or bio weapon payloads, just incindiary devices and on a few, HF telemetry transmitters.

Great book, tons of detail about these weapons:

http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Siege-III-Civilians-Documentary/dp/0936738731

377

2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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As for the real D. B. Cooper, his bones are still out there somewhere.

The dead-certainty I find in this forum is very
humorous, if not amusing.

Who will get the left and right femurs to display on
their walls, exactly positioned to your latest revised
coordinates, as supplied by Blevins after a Fourier
analysis of a bobcat's ass in flight between branch A
and branch B of a Coniferinae bloptamaceous at 32
Celcius ?

You could just skip the details and do the Monolith-
thingie, and hit the pig over the head with the bone!

You geniuses probably didnt think of that!

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http://www.seanet.com/~johnco/fugo.htm

This article says BW/CW was one of the missions of the Fugos. But only mentions the 555th as Fire fighters.

Matt

An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!

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Bobby has many problems with his story that he never answers too.

He claims the flight path is 10-15 miles west of the FBI flight path, if you were to take the furthest position east and go west, this would put his path on the east side of Route 30, now that's funny.

Then he made a HUGE mistake telling Matt that TOG was Bill Rataczak....big Bozo No, No

Then he really screwed up the location of Janet and still wants to claim flares, man on stairs.

The Milk can theory is about as plausible as brick bouncing off a greenhouse.

No known "oil pipeline runs along the Columbia.
His Induction/Exam is very comical to say the least.

he has attached himself to Jo's story and puts the boost on it trying to make ends meet, but fails miserably.

as 377 mentioned, his theory with the reserve chute is, well......no comment, laughing too hard.

I hit him with the term "False Flag" and he responded saying he would not use that term, turned around and used that exact term in response to Matt, that term was not being used at that time period.

Bob likes to adapt to things that are said to him or that he reads, he then puts a twist on it trying to make it fit into his nightmare he calls a story.

Perhaps by the time he is finished with his version, he will tell us how Duane started the Big Bang theory about the Universe and how it fits into the crime!

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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No evidence of chem or bio weapon payloads, just incindiary devices and on a few, HF telemetry transmitters.

Great book, tons of detail about these weapons:

http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Siege-III-Civilians-Documentary/dp/0936738731

377

Another book on these balloons is "Balloon Bomb Attacks on North America", by Robert C. Mikesh, Aero Publishers, Inc., 1982.

I may be able to identify the balloon that I saw based on information in this book.

Robert99

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Matt States:

If I may paraphrase a little:
Duane went to prison.
Got work detailed to fight fires, or support that effort.

Jo States:
It is a little more complicated than that, but if this simplication helps someone understand the process. Yes. I "expect" his first exposure was thru McNeil because of the shortage of man power to maintain roads, airport and forestry aid. (This was addressed in a book written about McNeil - a very old book).
Thank You.

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Matt States:
With his ethnic look, at certain times of the year, and after out door work and sun exposure, was working with the 555th.

Jo State:
I do believe he had "exposure to these guys" - while still in prison and they became hero's to him...I believe he kept a relationship with one individual who ended up in the N.Orleans area - perhaps 2.

In July of 1945 some changes were made - I believe he followed these guys to Walla Walla as he ran errands for them to make purchases. Duane spoke of this in the third person which is how he told me about things I now know he really did. He made reference to "boy" when talking about things in the area... Why I think he was referred to as BOY jokingly by these guys and it could just be that he considered himself a BOY in the 40's. In a letter to his mother from Camp Siebert he makes reference "this Boy is going to make good" dated in 1943.

He was working in The Dalles area and someone in that area connected to the Fire Dept had a personal connection with Duane.
(The above statement has little chance for suppositions -because he told me this on that trip). The proof to that is there, but the court house was closed for the 2 days I was there because of the election.

He mentioned the guys and this group of guys was not part of the 555. These other guys worked as CO's....these guys were in the Mt Hood area and I was able to verify that...but all had deceased when I made attempts to find them and "one" didn't exist!

Duane took me one specific park and told me there was a rock there with his initials under it. It was raining that day and we had to move on. This is when he told me about a grave yard not far away which I found in 2010.
An old friend - someone he used to know was buried there. I pulled up the records for the graveyard and the one name that stood out - there was NO grave marker (again I had hit WA in the rain, but the markers looked so old and I walked what I could - should have had a local with me - so little time and so much money and no contacts).

I went to the Parks & Services & Forestry checking to see if his name appeared - but their files are incomplete for those yrs, but the guys really tried to find something for me. Duane worked in many of those parks, but under what capacity and what name I have not been able to find out...the FBI will not help.

I may have been at the wrong cemetary...I was using my sense of direction and didn't ask the locals if there was another cemetary near there that was relative new in 1979.
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Matt States:
(Which history shows was in the region, it is well documented and discussed at 555th Reunions, I have attended two of those).
Here he picked up his knowledge of parachuting. Later, in prison again, he picked up the idea of a hijacking. Later he committed the hijacking, alone, keeping the money for himself and escaped the woods and many years later meets you marries you and then confesses to you, mostly, just before passing away.

Kind of, sort of?

Jo States:
Kinda sorta!
Back to the subject -
What these guys were or who they were I do not know. Duane's reaction when we made our trip in 1979 - would indicate he worked in Missoula or knew at one time a couple of the guys who died. He said something strange, but I never remembered how it was worded - but, it would have indicated he may have been part of the crew that went in after the fire to recover the bodies. There was a sound in his voice - like a man who was stifling back a bad memory or something he couldn't talk about.

Whatever Duane was doing in the late 40's he was in WA. and he stayed in close association with jumpers and firefighters, forestry, pilots and air to ground communications and airports and towers. In and out of prison. and used multiple names because when he went back he was running from the authorities in Ohio.

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In addition to the information Matt came up with in the above link, Camp Bonneville Military Reservation is plotted on page 109 of the Washington Road and Recreation Atlas, although it is not listed in the index.

So the "locals" still living in that general area who had never heard of it are probably in cahoots with the FBI and writing a book on the Cooper hijacking to boot.

Now if Jo can now somehow dispose of the other 900+ candidates who have claimed to be D. B. Cooper, she can continue to claim that Duane Weber is "The One True D. B. Cooper Hijacker", release her book with the same title for publication, appear on all the talk shows, and finally have her 15 minutes of fame.

As for the real D. B. Cooper, his bones are still out there somewhere.

Well as for a book - I could have done that yrs ago, but I was NOT looking for fame or fortune. I wanted the truth and to know who I was married to for 17 yrs.

One man went so far as to do a contract and his querry letter had absolutely nothing to do with the many hours of tapes he made. I fired him and disolved the relationship - never again. Not one word of truth was on stated on the 2 pages he wrote.

As for there being other verbal or written confessions - the FBI never produced any PROOF of this. (This claim is all hear-say).
I know some guys locked up in the drunk tank made claims and they stopped investigating these type of things.

If the FBI was actually consulted and actually reports made public I believe you will find they seriously investigated these multiple suspects but not because the suspect confessed to a family member or friend that they were Cooper...when they were dying. The few who did claim to be Cooper - turned out to be in most cases - "braggarts" like JT and drunks....individuals quickly proven not to be Cooper. Find out if the FBI will reveal to you exactly how many confessed to a wife or family member before they died - (discount repeated claims by drunkards).

If you are FBI or have a REAL connection with them find out the ACTUAL number of suspects investigated because they made a confession to a family member.

You will find the quickly dispelled those and mostly it was "BAR talk". If anyone know of a wannabe who was investigate beside Coffelt give me a name.
Surely these individuasl at least got a mention in the local news.

What you are repeating about 1000's of confession is a number created by a member of this thread and never reported by the FBI as being substanciated.

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http://www.seanet.com/~johnco/fugo.htm

This article says BW/CW was one of the missions of the Fugos. But only mentions the 555th as Fire fighters.

Matt

An amazing site.

The designation I have tried to describe before and do not remember the source or where it is in all this CRAP I have.

I rememered in my reading that these guys were something else before being trained in 1944 or 1945 to jump into the forest to fight fire....and this was before the actually formation of the WA smoke jumpers. The camp "Lloyd' Johnson and his brother trained was AFTER these guys, but Derry was involved in their training to use the chute in the manner he had designed them....Derry was instrumental in all of this - he had an investment there. Later came the training for what actually became known as the Smoke Jumpers as we know them today.

Since most of this is just in my brain I do get things mixed up, but I have the contradictory site - just not all in one place and some of the books. I would like to see proof of which came first because this is becoming a mismash.

I am certain the training by the Johnson's and the formation of the "the smoke jumper trained just to fight fires" was after the military guys had been trained by Derry to use his chutes to fight fires or maybe it all overlapped. I had never heard of Derry training an all black crew and even the article did not reference this.

This is something you guys will need to filter out and I believe that can only be done by checking the WA state records 1st hand and not by sites written by individuals like us after the fact.

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No evidence of chem or bio weapon payloads, just incindiary devices and on a few, HF telemetry transmitters.

Great book, tons of detail about these weapons:

http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Siege-III-Civilians-Documentary/dp/0936738731

377

Another book on these balloons is "Balloon Bomb Attacks on North America", by Robert C. Mikesh, Aero Publishers, Inc., 1982.

I may be able to identify the balloon that I saw based on information in this book.

Robert99

Wow! At least you backed up and listened to reason. IF you find a copy of the book "Balloon Bomb Attackes on N.A." by Robert C Mikesh - please help me get a copy or to borrow a copy. (I do NOT order things on the computer, but I will gladly reimburse anyone who can acquire a copy of the book). I do NOT live close to Pensacola anymore and the little branch office here just never EVER gets me anything I request (stopped going). It is a pathetic excuse for a library. Very little outside of paperbacks and novels. Historical - they just ignore. You can go to the book sales of donated books and what do you find - the historicals they refuse to use their shelf space for. They have them about every month, but I stopped going - just too much stuff and not categorized.

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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No evidence of chem or bio weapon payloads, just incindiary devices and on a few, HF telemetry transmitters.

Great book, tons of detail about these weapons:

http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Siege-III-Civilians-Documentary/dp/0936738731

377

Another book on these balloons is "Balloon Bomb Attacks on North America", by Robert C. Mikesh, Aero Publishers, Inc., 1982.

I may be able to identify the balloon that I saw based on information in this book.

Robert99

Wow! At least you backed up and listened to reason. IF you find a copy of the book "Balloon Bomb Attackes on N.A." by Robert C Mikesh - please help me get a copy or to borrow a copy. (I do NOT order things on the computer, but I will gladly reimburse anyone who can acquire a copy of the book). I do NOT live close to Pensacola anymore and the little branch office here just never EVER gets me anything I request (stopped going). It is a pathetic excuse for a library. Very little outside of paperbacks and novels. An things historical - they just ignore. You can go to the book sales of donated books and what do you find - the historicals they refuse to use their shelf space for. They have them about every month, but I stopped going - just too much stuff and not categorized.

here ya go

http://www.amazon.com/Japans-World-Balloon-Attacks-America/dp/0874749115

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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No evidence of chem or bio weapon payloads, just incindiary devices and on a few, HF telemetry transmitters.

Great book, tons of detail about these weapons:

http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Siege-III-Civilians-Documentary/dp/0936738731

377

Another book on these balloons is "Balloon Bomb Attacks on North America", by Robert C. Mikesh, Aero Publishers, Inc., 1982.

I may be able to identify the balloon that I saw based on information in this book.

Robert99

Wow! At least you backed up and listened to reason. IF you find a copy of the book "Balloon Bomb Attackes on N.A." by Robert C Mikesh - please help me get a copy or to borrow a copy. (I do NOT order things on the computer, but I will gladly reimburse anyone who can acquire a copy of the book). I do NOT live close to Pensacola anymore and the little branch office here just never EVER gets me anything I request (stopped going). It is a pathetic excuse for a library. Very little outside of paperbacks and novels. An things historical - they just ignore. You can go to the book sales of donated books and what do you find - the historicals they refuse to use their shelf space for. They have them about every month, but I stopped going - just too much stuff and not categorized.

Jo, Here is the story on this book.

My copy was published in 1982 by Aero Publishers as mentioned above. The copyright page also contains the following: "Originally Published: Japan's World War II ballon attacks on North America. Washington: Smithsonian Institution Press, 1973."

A fast check on Amazon.com indicates that this book has gone through several printings and maybe editions (I can't be sure of the editions.) But the latest available book is dated June 1, 2011 and is available on Amazon.com for about $20.00 plus about $4.00 shipping.

So if you don't want to order this book through Amazon. com, maybe a friend of yours will do so and you can then repay them. Or perhaps a book store in your area will order it for you (and probably charge you more also).

The following information applies to the printing of June 1, 2011:

TITLE: Japan's World War II Balloon Attacks on North
America (Smithsonian Annals of Flight). [Paperback]

AUTHOR: C. Robert Mikesh [The original author was listed as Robert C. Mikesh so this may be the son of the 1973 author.]

PAGES: 92

PUBLISHER: MilitaryBookshop.co.uk (June 1, 2011)

LANGUAGE: English

ISBN-10: 1780394454

ISBN-13: 978-1780394459

DIMENSIONS: 10.9 X 8.2 X 0.2 Inches

SHIPPING WEIGHT: 1 Pound

In addition to the above, Amazon.com has some other printings and used books for a lower price.

Don't come up with any excuses for not getting this book!

Robert99

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Below is a paragraph written by one of the guy who read the book. This explains what I have stomped and screamed and raged about for yrs. "Lauunched during the winter of 1944-45"

Exactly when Duane went to WA. to prison - note he was sentenced from CA in January of 1945 to a prison in WA. He was eligible for parole in July of 1945 - 5 months later. He was also underage for a federal prison - The prison record showhe was born in 1920, but he was born in 1924 and this is how the family and friend got him out in less than 6 wks, but the file do not reflect this and all of the back file had been destroyed - one woman did dig into old files but found no back-up information on him - the file had been destroyed.

One has to know the reputation of that prison to know - Duane being only 18 yrs old was in REAL jeopardy. That prison was only for the repeat offenders and sexual crimes, but the judge who sentenced Duane was a hard liner - on guy sentenced by the same judge got life in McNeil, but he got out later also. This judge did not care for CO's, or anyone who was discharged from the service other than honorably.
He actually hoped they got killed in the prison itself.

Duane's family fought to get him out and he never entered the main stream of the prison...and was not held there more than a few wks. The old records they destroyed probably showed he was under age and place in one of the work camps - the woman told me this was common during that time.

"Launched during the winter of 1944-45, about nine thousand such bombs started on the trip from Japan to North America, riding the almost unknown "jet stream" across the vast Pacific Ocean. A very clever (and very cheap) altitude regulation device kept the hydrogen filled bombs at the right height in the stream, dropping sand ballast when needed. At the end point of the run, a self destruction mechanism dropped the bombs and set the hydrogen filled balloon ablaze."

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Below is a paragraph written by one of the guy who read the book. This explains what I have stomped and screamed and raged about for yrs. "Lauunched during the winter of 1944-45"

Exactly when Duane went to WA. to prison - note he was sentenced from CA in January of 1945 to a prison in WA. He was eligible for parole in July of 1945 - 5 months later. He was also underage for a federal prison - The prison record showhe was born in 1920, but he was born in 1924 and this is how the family and friend got him out in less than 6 wks, but the file do not reflect this and all of the back file had been destroyed - one woman did dig into old files but found no back-up information on him - the file had been destroyed.

One has to know the reputation of that prison to know - Duane being only 18 yrs old was in REAL jeopardy. That prison was only for the repeat offenders and sexual crimes, but the judge who sentenced Duane was a hard liner - on guy sentenced by the same judge got life in McNeil, but he got out later also. This judge did not care for CO's, or anyone who was discharged from the service other than honorably.
He actually hoped they got killed in the prison itself.

Duane's family fought to get him out and he never entered the main stream of the prison...and was not held there more than a few wks. The old records they destroyed probably showed he was under age and place in one of the work camps - the woman told me this was common during that time.

"Launched during the winter of 1944-45, about nine thousand such bombs started on the trip from Japan to North America, riding the almost unknown "jet stream" across the vast Pacific Ocean. A very clever (and very cheap) altitude regulation device kept the hydrogen filled bombs at the right height in the stream, dropping sand ballast when needed. At the end point of the run, a self destruction mechanism dropped the bombs and set the hydrogen filled balloon ablaze."

Jo, What do you mean when you call Duane a "CO"?

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So if you don't want to order this book through Amazon. com, maybe a friend of yours will do so and you can then repay them. Or perhaps a book store in your area will order it for you (and probably charge you more also).

Thank You _ I never thought about having someone else order it. I would like to get the 1st edition - that way not much has been altered or changed. The way the world is today - you buy a book and read it and then a couple of yrs later you pick up what is supposedly the same book and things ahve been sugar coated or stated differently.

Such as Grey wanted to know what he could change in the Paper-back to make me happier about the image he portrayed of me as a bar-pick-up and hick with a kerchief. I was very angry about this and I still am - evidently. My family is very unhappy about it also...none of us ever dreamed anyone would take my KY twang and make it fit the image of a slut and country hick....or that anyone would consider this a Comedy!

I may not have the intellect and degrees others in my family have, but I am not what he depicted.

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I chose you to make this reply to tonight, but it is for eveyone of you who read this and who have followed this saga thru the yrs.

What I have tried to do is stay with the basics and MATTHEW CLINE has been instrumental in this, without attacking me. Thank you, Matt for shifting thru all of the trivial stuff. By your making me focus on what transpired in the very beginning has been a breath of fresh air.

What I told the FBI in the beginning and then entered JT who kept telling me NONE of this existed - nothing I was describing existed and that I kept changing the story. What I exchanged with Doug and what I wrote to him was before all of the media stuff, but JT distorted the things I kept trying my best to relate. His tactics basically was to undermine the locations.

Even to this day he will not admit that my little MT or hill existed and insists I claimed we were on the OR side all the way to Portland - he made me feel like I had lost my mind. He would twist and turn every word I said....I actually thought I was loosing my mind at that time - the stress caused me go every which way.

After the story broke the only objective by most was to discredit me and I do NOT know why. A lot of people got to me and filled my head with things that I was able to connect to Duane's strange life. Knoss came into it - and that was the worst part of it all...it made a mockery of me...I don't blame the FBI for ceasing any investigation into Weber at that time.

Then along came Carr who was no help at all - he just furthered the discreditations. He just would NOT look at the simple facts....no one really heard me until the last few days.

Perhaps the facts and dates are ALL just co-incidental, but that is what I am trying my best to do is keep to what I know and not what the theories have been. To dismiss the things told to me by others who only wanted to fire the Cooper Saga up. Duane's past was NOT beyond dispute. I, like the FBI and others looked beyond the very obvious for answers.

The last few day not being attacked by Knoss or JT and with individuals who are logically trying to help me find some answers has lifted this heavy load off of my shoulders.

We have gone back to where I started in 1996 - the memories and the things Duane did relate to me about his life....the things he told me and my memories and information Duane's family related to me and the things Doug Pasternac uncovered. Without Doug I would not have what Documentation I do have about Duane's criminal records and military records.

All of this goes right back to the time frames I felt needed to be disputed and discussed and investigated - NO one did that until NOW. 17 yrs later individuals are seriously looking at the simple answers and helping me to find my way through all of this.

Most individual know I compose my posts right here on the thread and then go back and edit out stuff that didn't need to be said and I make mistakes in dates and other details doing this, but that is the only way to do it - for me.

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Jo, What do you mean when you call Duane a "CO"?

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Doesn't mean anything but the FBI has just released files regarding the monitoring of
a woman who worked for the Civil Right Commission in Memphis.

This was taken from the informant file of the late civil rights era photographer Ernest Withers who died in 2007.

All released under the court order to the Commercial Appeal which sued the FBI to unravel Withers' secret life as a "racial" informant.

His code number was ME 338-R was one of 5 paid informants.

Who were the others.
Did Sheridan Peterson know Withers? They were both journalist.

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Jo, What do you mean when you call Duane a "CO"?

Conscientious Objectors - those who did NOT want to fight a war...you are aware of the CO camps?

Robert Blevins lives in WA and yet he denied the Bonneville Camp (this was not a CO camp). Why he could be oblivious to this I do not know...perhaps he did not read the thread prior to his making his entrance to promote his book.

This has been a LONG long long trip for me, but hopefully those of you who actually are able to sift through all of the garbage can understand why I believe Duane Weber was Dan Cooper. Even the CO's and the Black Jumpers has enlightened many of you...

It seemed like NO one was hearing me on this - I tried to explore it on the thread, but NO one wanted any part of it nor did the FBI agents understand what I was trying to say.

I still maintain the truth is so SIMPLE no one wants to believe it. Was Duane actually the one on the ground or was he the jumper? I believe from what I know and what he told me he had to be the jumper. When he made the comment about a certain location being where Cooper walked out of the woods, my reply was "How would you know that". He knew he had to back step and I think the comment he made about maybe his being the man on the ground was his way of doing that.

This was the ONLY time COOPER was mentioned on that entire trip!
Why? Cooper was not discuss even on the anniversaries and basically in the South - no new media coverage. If it was - he made sure I didn't see the paper as he did in 1980 when the money was found. He had purchased a new car after the trip to WA and I could not understand why. He said he got a good trade and had the money for the balance. This was an Oldsmobile cutlass - he bought this car in Ft. Collins or in Denver.

The 1980 announcement is made about the found money and the story is on the front page (a story I did not get to read). After he left CO he immediately bought a new car, but on credit...the Mercury. He went back to the South - and I am sure he checked to see how much the media was running articles on Cooper. He felt safe and came home for my daughters graduation and then left...very quickly. The moving truck I drove to AL with my daughter and a young man who was going to hike the Apalachicola...he relieved me of some of the driving and stayed with us for about a month until it was time to put him on a bus to meet the rest of his group.

[mrshutter45 21]

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2011-05-13/news/bs-md-co-objectors-camp-20110513_1_objector-civilian-public-service-conscience-war

might be possible.

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

[Robert99 50]

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http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2011-05-13/news/bs-md-co-objectors-camp-20110513_1_objector-civilian-public-service-conscience-war

might be possible.

What was the purpose of this camp? What activities did the 26 COs engage in? Was it a work camp or a punishment camp?

[skyjack71 0]

Robert99 go back to school!

I did NOT say Duane stole identies to serve - I said nothing that resembled that. He was the extreme opposite of a CO he wanted to serve, but he was a "bad" boy and ended up in prison and the parents had "friends" and made arrangements for him - people who thought they could help him.
It was in a CO camp - but they also dealt with WAYWARD young men since it was a religion based organization How the family arranged all of this I do not know...but it did happen.

Check it out yourself!

Conscientious Objectors Camps
LOOK it UP! 1940's. They were all over the place.

Go to: Civilian Public Service - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and learn something. I don't know how to put the site address on here, but everyone else knows what I am talking about.

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