DB Cooper

[skyjack71 0]

#1.This is Duane around age 24 yrs of age - it is the best guess we have. We know the picture was made before he went to San Quentin and Folsom 1951 and long before he went to Canon in 1960.

Therefore we can guess at the date around 1945 and 1949.

#2. This is the intake photo for Canon taken in 1960.

#3. The photo found in the CANON FILE. The original was in the prison file - I hope they didn't destroy it because I would love to have it. The official did NOT know how or why that photo was in his file.

#4. Now to the out-take photo taken in 1962. Note his attire and his standing positions and his profile (back to looking how he looked in the #1 photo).
All I have is the bad copy, but it is the best Doug could get from the prison.

#5. Now I want to take you back to his navy pic - note how he stands.

#6. Now we go to the CO Camino Camp pic - the second from the left - a guy identified as Marvin and also Melvin in the same article. Relatives said this person was NOT their relative and he was never at Camino.

#7. Another pic from Camino showing the man from #6. Again note the standing position of this guy - he is the one with his right hand cocked on his hip.

#8. Note this pic of Weber taken in 1970 approximately.

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[skyjack71 0]

This is the 8th time I have tried to get this photo to post. It is the one of Duane in 1970 approx. with hand on hip in brown suit so if it down NOT download this time - it is already in the thread.

If this was one of those TV programs like BONES - the images would be up on some kind of 3-D program with a photo enchancement and recognition program showing the pictures are all of the same man - but how could that be?

Just back to see if #8 posted.
The writers who want to do a TV Comedy need to look at what has really been going on in the background regarding Cooper and be sure they really want to go that far.

Well, this is all I can post here for the time being...

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[BobKnoss 0]

"I think that's plain enough. We presented what we had, but in no-way-shape-or-form does any of it prove that Kenny Christiansen was the hijacker. NO WAY."
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No, that's for sure. But what I reported about KC wanting to become DB Cooper in death, his note to Lyle in his Will, requesting to have Lyle peddle the fable. Being told about the plot pre-Posterous by TOG family, THAT's PROOF! Why didn't you ever confront Lyle with the truth? If I know, others know. And I know for certain the FBI knows. Tread carefully. You are being documented........ accomplice, party of the second part.

[mrshutter45 21]

stop saying TOG, we know you mean Bill Rataczak, stop correcting everyone's post's without any proof, you are the true story teller on this thread!!!!

TOG = Bill Ratacazak
Dave Haapala = College friend
Janet = a dead end lead from FBI files

also noticed you lying on your Myspace page, you told someone you moved to Haapala North Dakota in Christmas of 1971

and still had time to take notes for the dead guy...McCoy, US Marshal, CIA, movie maker, cancer in the hip guy, Pentagon guy etc etc etc etc

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

[georger 244]

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maybe your KC theory could use some Obamacare

You mean the author could - screw the theory!

He's on another manic roll ...
A rolling manic gathers no theories; just sparks
with his tailpipe draggin. His muffler, radio
speakers, and sole remaining hubcap are worth
100x what the vehicle is worth! Varoooooooom -

You have become part of the problem on this thread, Georger. That was a legit post based on real people...the names given are real...and you could try to contact Carolyn Tyner on your own and verify her testimony.

This is also why I said earlier that you have lost all credibility. You don't address the issues anymore. You just try to think up another *humorous* comment. If you are considering stand-up as a second career...stick with whatever you are doing now.

Since you actually responded to the Tyner post, let me ask this:

Do you believe Mrs. Tyner is lying about the money, and what she said about her life with ex-husband Robin and KC? Careful now. Before you say she made it all up, remember that others could call her and check it out. I found her easily. So can anyone else.

At the time I interviewed her, she had never been contacted before regarding KC or the hijacking. She wasn't even aware that his name had been forwarded as a suspect. She had no motivation to lie, and was quite free with details on her current life, as well as her past life with Robin.

And I don't believe she IS lying.

Skyjack 71 says in part:

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'He tries to make the public think his story is "The Story". I have not read or heard about any of his "witnesses" being visited by the FBI and they went silent after the video was done.

If the FBI took any actions they sure kept it quiet. His story is just a BOOK and that is all...'

It's not THE story, just A story. I haven't the slightest clue for sure whether KC was the hijacker or not. I JUST DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. How many times do people on this thread have to be reminded of that?

From the DB Cooper Info Page at our website:

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'...we were able to establish motive, opportunity, evidential documents, pictures, and patterns of spending right after the crime that point to Christiansen. There is no smoking gun, however.

If there were, someone on the AB staff would be on David Letterman the following week...'

I think that's plain enough. We presented what we had, but in no-way-shape-or-form does any of it prove that Kenny Christiansen was the hijacker. NO WAY.

As far as the Seattle FBI, well...these are the same folks whose claims on the Amboy chute are suspect at best, and who went public (and got egg on their faces) pushing Marla Cooper's uncle as a 'viable suspect'. That sort of fell through for them. I have no idea what they think of KC as a suspect today, or whether they have ever interviewed any of the witnesses.

somewhere in the above are instructions for me -
I will obey!

I am confused about instruction #464546 Part B.

And Parts C, D, G, L,M,O, and P.

Please clarify.

Sorry. Im busy rght now painting my toenails.

Have a ncie day.

[matthewcline 0]

Myspace? so '90's! That does explain a few things though!

Matt

An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!

[mrshutter45 21]

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Myspace? so '90's! That does explain a few things though!

Matt

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

[skyjack71 0]

Just wanted to know if any of you took the time to look at the photos and put them in order and see what I see - Duane transformed from boy to man to boy and then to man again.

I was very serious about someone actually trying to put these photo on a page in the order I provided with my explanations of each and actually LOOK at them.

I haven't got MUCH time left to get the FBI to really look and I need some help. Very serious right now and I am very upset about somethings unrelated to Cooper and Weber. Please help
me with this Cooper thing Please! No more playing around and no more time to deal with the likes of Knoss.

Things have not been going well here. I am just hoping beyond all hope the FBI will actually provide me with resolutions about Duane Weber's past. I need CLOSURE and I need it soon. Please help me in any way you can.

Look at the stuff and help me get it to the FBI in a format they cannot ignore - PLEASE!

There is NO more time for games - Please help me get this into a format the FBI has to study and to provide answers too. Please NO cocky replies to the post.

Right now I am bearly holding on to my sanity and I am scared. Maybe what I am experiencing at this moment is unfound - I will know in the next 2 wks just what I am up against.

Please HELP me put this infront of the FBI. I no longer have any contact with them - but, I really really need some answers. Answers that are logical and answers that have been actually investigated....answers they can put infront of me.

If anyone has a REALLY serious contact with the FBI - please help.
NO GAMES - please!

I have a lot to do to prepare for tomorrow so I doubt I will be back to see what you guys are doing. Do the best you can and PLEASE ignore Knoss. Please make this creep go away. I can not give the CRAP this guy toots one more moment of my time.

Please help me with a presentation the FBI cannot ignore. It would have been mighty "xxxxxx" of the FBI to have spent some time actually reviewing what I had done and what I found and to take it several steps closer than they did in the past.

P.S. Georger - I never has a pedicure or manicure in my life - I have worked very hard most of my life to survive and I have lived my life in within the teachings of my Father....to always be honest and to fight for what is right....too stand for justice no matter what.

IF no one remembers one other thing about me - remember this.
I am NOT a genius and it take a genius to get away with a lie. I have tried to present my case, but it is 99% on this thread and I am as quilty as the rest of you for chasing the theories, but I will promise you this - Duane Weber was Cooper and if he wasn't he sure as hell was very very close to whoever was - but, I still hold my ground that he was Dan Cooper...and will until someone can prove he was NOT with solid evidence to back their claim.

Please don't reply with the DNA and the prints - the FBI has NEVER been able to state they have Coopers DNA nor his prints and there is NO reason to believe they have ANYTHING, even with the new technology they have attempted to use.

I don't have an icon for crying my heart out. Not sure if there is one for what I am feeling tonight. Perhaps there is one for HOPE!

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[matthewcline 0]

I know you said not too, but, the FBI said they didn't match DW to the DNA and prints they had from the hijacking, correct?

The other items in your post, I hope your felling better, I hope you hear good news.

Sadly, I think you may not get the FBI to say DW is the hijacker, as the evidence you hold is not physically in their hands and not verifiable with the high degree they use to prosecute.

Matt

An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!

[BobKnoss 0]

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I know you said not too, but, the FBI said they didn't match DW to the DNA and prints they had from the hijacking, correct?

The other items in your post, I hope your felling better, I hope you hear good news.

Sadly, I think you may not get the FBI to say DW is the hijacker, as the evidence you hold is not physically in their hands and not verifiable with the high degree they use to prosecute.

Matt

It could get done in a very short period of time, but it will not, because everybody promised to keep the secrets. It would be nice if you guys and "the old guys" especially, would just tell her she's right, but you can't go public with the story. Much less the truth....

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I know you said not too, but, the FBI said they didn't match DW to the DNA and prints they had from the hijacking, correct?

The other items in your post, I hope your felling better, I hope you hear good news.

Sadly, I think you may not get the FBI to say DW is the hijacker, as the evidence you hold is not physically in their hands and not verifiable with the high degree they use to prosecute.

Matt

It could get done in a very short period of time, but it will not, because everybody promised to keep the secrets. It would be nice if you guys and "the old guys" especially, would just tell her she's right, but you can't go public with the story. Much less the truth....

Knoss writes: ". . . but you can't go public with the story . . .".

R99 replies: Knoss it is nice to know that you can keep a secret. I'm sure nothing on this thread will ever become public knowledge.

[mrshutter45 21]

Knoss writes: "----------" nothing, it's only make believe, Conway Twitty 1958

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

[skyjack71 0]

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I know you said not too, but, the FBI said they didn't match DW to the DNA and prints they had from the hijacking, correct?

The other items in your post, I hope your felling better, I hope you hear good news.

Sadly, I think you may not get the FBI to say DW is the hijacker, as the evidence you hold is not physically in their hands and not verifiable with the high degree they use to prosecute.

Matt

I do not give a HOOT! I just want them to REALLY look at what I have. If in 40 yrs they haven't been able to match the DNA or the prints - it is highly likely the evidence was NOT evidence and the DNA they have was NOT Cooper's (if the only thing they have is the tie). If they have those cigarette butts - that is another story.

Perhaps they do have the butts and the tie - and conflicting DNA's?

Georger, you supposedly represent yourself as being on the inside of the FBI knowledge so tell us why they do NOT have the butts or claim they do not have the butts. Could it the two DNA's are totally different?

Can they detect heritage - such as race and/or the racial heritage of individuals several generations back? I know this is a silly question - but, what if?

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[BobKnoss 0]

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I know you said not too, but, the FBI said they didn't match DW to the DNA and prints they had from the hijacking, correct?

The other items in your post, I hope your felling better, I hope you hear good news.

Sadly, I think you may not get the FBI to say DW is the hijacker, as the evidence you hold is not physically in their hands and not verifiable with the high degree they use to prosecute.

Matt

It could get done in a very short period of time, but it will not, because everybody promised to keep the secrets. It would be nice if you guys and "the old guys" especially, would just tell her she's right, but you can't go public with the story. Much less the truth....

Knoss writes: ". . . but you can't go public with the story . . .".

R99 replies: Knoss it is nice to know that you can keep a secret. I'm sure nothing on this thread will ever become public knowledge.

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I'd like to see you try to explain the real truth to anyone and have them believe you. It is so twisted and complex even you can't untangle it. It does not make a bit of difference what I say on this toadstool pulpit hidden in a plastic web of trivia and boredom. First, nobody can find it, and second, nobody cares. In order to create any interest, you will have to fluff it up, put some suspense and humor in it, some big boobs, Lotza drama and reincarnate Steve McQueen or Peter Sellers. And they STILL wouldn't believe the true story. But then, you lost all your credibility on that stupid tie clasp.

[BobKnoss 0]

"Can they detect heritage - such as race and/or the racial heritage of individuals several generations back? I know this is a silly question - but, what if? "
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Yes, they can see the Native American. I think the "lost" evidence was just dumped in another evidence box at the same time the clasp was traded for the medallion by a specific SA. That is why a timeline on the clasp is relevant as the custody sheet may indicate the perp.

[mrshutter45 21]

Bob says: "I'd like to see you try to explain the real truth"

Shutter says: you wouldn't know the truth if it was presented to you in black & white with all subjects involved with statements and proof to back up there story.

TOG= Bill Rataczak (per Bob Knoss)
Dave Haapala= Friend or College buddy
Milk can= storage for milk not for money buried for years in a moisture type Environment
Richard Floyd McCoy= dead guy....period.

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

[BobKnoss 0]

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I know you said not too, but, the FBI said they didn't match DW to the DNA and prints they had from the hijacking, correct?

The other items in your post, I hope your felling better, I hope you hear good news.

Sadly, I think you may not get the FBI to say DW is the hijacker, as the evidence you hold is not physically in their hands and not verifiable with the high degree they use to prosecute.

Matt

It could get done in a very short period of time, but it will not, because everybody promised to keep the secrets. It would be nice if you guys and "the old guys" especially, would just tell her she's right, but you can't go public with the story. Much less the truth....

Knoss writes: ". . . but you can't go public with the story . . .".

R99 replies: Knoss it is nice to know that you can keep a secret. I'm sure nothing on this thread will ever become public knowledge.

"YOU" think you can't, but I can and have. Join me, you dirty little backstabbing cowards!

[mrshutter45 21]

Bob says: "you dirty little backstabbing cowards!"

That statement alone should be enough to get you removed from this site!

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

[matthewcline 0]

"cowards" odd statement coming from that one.

Matt

An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!

[matthewcline 0]

"I do not give a HOOT! I just want them to REALLY look at what I have. If in 40 yrs they haven't been able to match the DNA or the prints - it is highly likely the evidence was NOT evidence and the DNA they have was NOT Cooper's (if the only thing they have is the tie). If they have those cigarette butts - that is another story.

Perhaps they do have the butts and the tie - and conflicting DNA's? "

What do you mean? If they have evidence and DNA, you're saying it is not "Coppers"? How would this be known?

They have the tie, a box of notes (SA Notes) and little else, that we know of.

But, if it is enough to rule one out, then it would make sense not to spend (waste) valuable time and money on a none-suspect.

If they didn't have any prints and DNA, then the suspect field is far larger, and money and time may be re-spent.

Matt

An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!

[b1jercat 0]

+1

blues

jerry

[Robert99 50]

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I know you said not too, but, the FBI said they didn't match DW to the DNA and prints they had from the hijacking, correct?

The other items in your post, I hope your felling better, I hope you hear good news.

Sadly, I think you may not get the FBI to say DW is the hijacker, as the evidence you hold is not physically in their hands and not verifiable with the high degree they use to prosecute.

Matt

It could get done in a very short period of time, but it will not, because everybody promised to keep the secrets. It would be nice if you guys and "the old guys" especially, would just tell her she's right, but you can't go public with the story. Much less the truth....

Knoss writes: ". . . but you can't go public with the story . . .".

R99 replies: Knoss it is nice to know that you can keep a secret. I'm sure nothing on this thread will ever become public knowledge.

"YOU" think you can't, but I can and have. Join me, you dirty little backstabbing cowards!

Knoss, It was YOUR own statement that I quoted!. And YOU wouldn't know the TRUTH if it bit YOU in the butt!

[BobKnoss 0]

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Bob says: "I'd like to see you try to explain the real truth"

Shutter says: you wouldn't know the truth if it was presented to you in black & white with all subjects involved with statements and proof to back up there story.

TOG= Bill Rataczak (per Bob Knoss)
Dave Haapala= Friend or College buddy
Milk can= storage for milk not for money buried for years in a moisture type Environment
Richard Floyd McCoy= dead guy....period.

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Mrshtter45= PLO=cover up/clean up/mop up/suck up/screw up. Phony flight paths and phony tie clasps! Always intentionally wrong and so proud of it. Repeating your errors does not make them true. It only verifies your dedication and lack of knowledge of the Cooper Case. PLO. (Not Palestine Liberation Organization) Blevins could use a talented failed agent sort for proving KC was actually the long-lost trans-gender cousin of a Northwest VP who was trying to worm his way to the top through blackmail and false blame. He probably has the scoop right from his primo investigator. You'd fit right in. Similar logical conclusions. Go bother him and leave me alone. My position won't change. I know what I saw. I know what I heard. And I know who said what to whom, and when. That is all hard fact to me. No microscope needed to know where that tie clasp was not. Just a conversation with the guy who got it. You could try a little investigation instead of reiteration. You might find pronounced edification in reclassification of information from factual to 'balonial,' and visa-versial.

[Amazon 7]

You REALLY should give writing fiction a shot..IF you could find an editor like Quade to help... such a vivid imagination going to waste. Conspiracy therorists eat stuff like you dream up with glee... Why waste time here.... your fellow travellers could worship you.

[matthewcline 0]

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You REALLY should give writing fiction a shot..IF you could find an editor like Quade to help... such a vivid imagination going to waste. Conspiracy therorists eat stuff like you dream up with glee... Why waste time here.... your fellow travellers could worship you.

Maybe he could get his story on a TV show! Like "Decoded"!!



Sorry, it was juts laying there waiting for the swing!

Matt

An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!