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In 1935 the Forest Service established the Aerial Fire Control Experimental Project in California, and experimented with dropping water and chemicals on wildland fires. Although the retardants tested proved impractical, the improvements made in delivery of cargo by parachute helped set the stage for later experiments with parachute jumping.
By 1939 the Aerial Fire Control Experiment had moved from California to Winthrop, Washington, and was directing all its efforts into parachute jumping. Nine jumpers worked on the project, along with two consultants from the Eagle Parachute Company. During the summer of 1939, some 60 experimental parachute jumps were successfully made into the forests of northern Washington.
Matt
You only quoted what you wanted to be known. These were only experiments regarding the chutes. "experimental parachute jumps" from what I have been told it involved a lot of dummies.
Like I have hinted at before and I will use another terminology. You are a Cooper Spook! Perhaps even one set up to enter the thread and dis-spell any hints of the truth that might surface at this time. I will not go so far as to say you are a Government Spook! But if you are connected to the government in anyway - you just might be.
Frankly I am not impressed!
You only use parts of the articles and not the entire article and other material - written yrs ago that disputes your displays of supposed knowledge.
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
Georger stated:
If the mtdna they already have is reliable enough to
be exclusionary, then Petey may have already been
excluded if they have Petey's dna, which it seems
they went to some effort to get ...
Well, Georger that is only IF they can prove without a doubt the Tie was actually the tie that Cooper removed. NO one saw him remove the tie. Maybe the tie belonged to Derry! 
Did YOU see the actual FBI file and statements from Tina that she saw Cooper remove his tie?
If the tie was shown to her after the fact - and represented to be the tie Cooper left then perhaps it was only a similar tie with NO association to Cooper at all.
Why the time loss in the evidence presented and represented to be an item Cooper was wearing?
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
georger 245
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Georger stated:
If the mtdna they already have is reliable enough to
be exclusionary, then Petey may have already been
excluded if they have Petey's dna, which it seems
they went to some effort to get ...
Well, Georger that is only IF they can prove without a doubt the Tie was actually the tie that Cooper removed. NO one saw him remove the tie. Maybe the tie belonged to Derry!
Did YOU see the actual FBI file and statements from Tina that she saw Cooper remove his tie?
If the tie was shown to her after the fact - and represented to be the tie Cooper left then perhaps it was only a similar tie with NO association to Cooper at all.
Why the time loss in the evidence presented and represented to be an item Cooper was wearing?
and what-if your and Blevins "mantra" is wrong!
wouldn't be the first time - eh?
georger 245
Are you kidding me?
Fred Gutt at the Seattle FBI has said that the DNA they have can exclude a suspect, but not match that suspect to a DNA sample from same.
Fred Gutt at the Seattle FBI has said that the DNA they have can exclude a suspect, but not match that suspect to a DNA sample from same.
You have no technical knowledge of these matters
whatever.
You have no idea what Gutt is saying in technical
terms, or is not saying.
But as usual you are fullof opinions and claims.
Give us a clinic-symposium on genetic testing,
Sham Wow Blevins!
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Duane's father moved to CA in 1943 from Ohio with the assistance of an old friend or friend of the family. The 2 photos may explain this research.
Also NOTE in Ohio Duane's Father was a machinist. He made and repaired airplane parts.
I needed and still need to locate a photo taken around 1933 to 1943 of a young man assisting Derry on the ground with one of his chutes.
I needed a complete history backgound of Derry....family, friends, school associates and business associates - times and dates.
It is not just about Duane, but about the brother and his associations and those of his father. Duane had spoke about Derry, but only in passing....it was early on and not in relation to Cooper - just a general conversation during our marriage. I connect Derry and Duane's family I put Weber in a chute or enough knowledge to do the JOB!
Need to find the history of Duane's father in regards to his military records.
Need to know who the other adult woman is in the photo - family photo Duane Treasured because of the memory associated with it.
The photo was taken from what I can tell around 1935 or earlier(judging by the size of Duane and his brother). I believe that in the time frame there may have been an aerial show in CA, but so far have found nothing. Hence WHY they would have taken a trip to CA in that time frame. Duane appears to be about 10 yrs old, the sister about 16 and the oldest brother about 21-23. I am not good at judging age in a photo. What I do know is the bother was 12 or 13 yrs old than Duane and his sister was 6 yrs older than Duane.
I don't need you to repeat your off track trash for me.
Duane's father made plane parts, big deal, 25+ years before the hijacking. SO not hardly the same materials and not the same model plane.
You have NOT connected Duane a Derry, you have suggested it.
Your history of the Smoke Jumpers and 555th has been corrected.
Your own admission has the family out of touch with Duane the con for decades, hardly a good way to gleam information and skills.
So stop with the side trips, put out proof that makes headway.
If you want info you go get it. The rest of us feel this is a dead end and are not going to waist out efforts just trying to complete a family history.
Matt
An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!
So, start being safe, first!!!
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In 1935 the Forest Service established the Aerial Fire Control Experimental Project in California, and experimented with dropping water and chemicals on wildland fires. Although the retardants tested proved impractical, the improvements made in delivery of cargo by parachute helped set the stage for later experiments with parachute jumping.
By 1939 the Aerial Fire Control Experiment had moved from California to Winthrop, Washington, and was directing all its efforts into parachute jumping. Nine jumpers worked on the project, along with two consultants from the Eagle Parachute Company. During the summer of 1939, some 60 experimental parachute jumps were successfully made into the forests of northern Washington.
Matt
You only quoted what you wanted to be known. These were only experiments regarding the chutes. "experimental parachute jumps" from what I have been told it involved a lot of dummies.See above
Like I have hinted at before and I will use another terminology. You are a Cooper Spook! Perhaps even one set up to enter the thread and dis-spell any hints of the truth that might surface at this time. I will not go so far as to say you are a Government Spook! But if you are connected to the government in anyway - you just might be.Pure Bull shit
Frankly I am not impressed!
You only use parts of the articles and not the entire article and other material - written yrs ago that disputes your displays of supposed knowledge.I provide the links, you don't read them, that is your issue not mine. I have knowledge and experience, you do not.
You and BK drink the same cool aid.
The quote was from the same web page you (ironically) want to use as proof you're right. IF you had read the whole page you would see that: YES! Derry had LIVE REAL PEOPLE Jumping before 1940.
Why is it so hard to accept that memories can be wrong and fade over time? notes can be misread and with flawed memories misrepresented?
Yet, it still has nothing to do with the hijacking.
Stop fixating on me, and how right I am about this. It is flattering but you're the one who is distracted from the threads goal. Proving who "Cooper" is.
Matt
An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!
So, start being safe, first!!!
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Georger stated:
If the mtdna they already have is reliable enough to
be exclusionary, then Petey may have already been
excluded if they have Petey's dna, which it seems
they went to some effort to get ...
Well, Georger that is only IF they can prove without a doubt the Tie was actually the tie that Cooper removed. NO one saw him remove the tie. Maybe the tie belonged to Derry!
Did YOU see the actual FBI file and statements from Tina that she saw Cooper remove his tie?
If the tie was shown to her after the fact - and represented to be the tie Cooper left then perhaps it was only a similar tie with NO association to Cooper at all.
Why the time loss in the evidence presented and represented to be an item Cooper was wearing?
So the dead man committed the hijacking? or provided a tie to the hijacker in his death?
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Matt
An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!
So, start being safe, first!!!
BobKnoss 0
Like a fart in the wind, Cline, if you can post a little faster you might turn to butter! What a frickin' idiot! A head on a broom stick. You contribute absolutely NOTHING to any conversation. You HAVE to know how dumb you sound, don't you? At least Bleep can express a point, even if it's wrong. What a collection of people in need! Adios.
Robert99 50
QuoteLike a fart in the wind, Cline, if you can post a little faster you might turn to butter! What a frickin' idiot! A head on a broom stick. You contribute absolutely NOTHING to any conversation. You HAVE to know how dumb you sound, don't you? At least Bleep can express a point, even if it's wrong. What a collection of people in need! Adios.
Knoss, Make the "Adios" permanent and that will definitely improve this thread.
And while you are leaving, take Jo Weber and all the other characters with their favorite "Cooper Candidates" with you.
Robert99
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In 1935 the Forest Service established the Aerial Fire Control Experimental Project in California, and experimented with dropping water and chemicals on wildland fires. Although the retardants tested proved impractical, the improvements made in delivery of cargo by parachute helped set the stage for later experiments with parachute jumping.
By 1939 the Aerial Fire Control Experiment had moved from California to Winthrop, Washington, and was directing all its efforts into parachute jumping. Nine jumpers worked on the project, along with two consultants from the Eagle Parachute Company. During the summer of 1939, some 60 experimental parachute jumps were successfully made into the forests of northern Washington.
Matt
You only quoted what you wanted to be known. These were only experiments regarding the chutes. "experimental parachute jumps" from what I have been told it involved a lot of dummies.
Like I have hinted at before and I will use another terminology. You are a Cooper Spook! Perhaps even one set up to enter the thread and dis-spell any hints of the truth that might surface at this time. I will not go so far as to say you are a Government Spook! But if you are connected to the government in anyway - you just might be.
Frankly I am not impressed!
You only use parts of the articles and not the entire article and other material - written yrs ago that disputes your displays of supposed knowledge.
Jo, With your demanding that other people produce all kinds of proof to support their statements, let's look at your investigative accomplishments.
You haven't even proven that Duane ever claimed that he was D. B. Cooper.
Even if Duane did claim that, it would just place him in the same category as about 1000 other goof balls who have made the same claim.
And your checking into Duane's background, if that is what you want to call it, has never produced ANYTHING
to support him being Cooper.
Can you give a logical, or even coherent, explanation for what you are doing on this thread?
Robert99
QuoteLike a fart in the wind, Cline, if you can post a little faster you might turn to butter! What a frickin' idiot! A head on a broom stick. You contribute absolutely NOTHING to any conversation. You HAVE to know how dumb you sound, don't you? At least Bleep can express a point, even if it's wrong. What a collection of people in need! Adios.
Ah yes, when presented with facts and proven historical data, you must use the good old PA.
The use of a PA shows one has no argument, no point to debate. Insults from you, like I told Jo, are more a statement towards your character than any thing else.
Your story, is so fluid, it should be used to ease the nations water shortage issues!
So now you and Jo have two completely different stories on how it could be Duane Weber. But at least in her circumstantial story, she has circumstantial evidence. I do not think it adds up, as do many here, but at least she has some form of evidence.
I would actually like her to be right for her theory, just to put the egg from her face, on yours.
Matt
An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!
So, start being safe, first!!!
georger 245
I notice you didn't actually comment upon that claim, but merely postured yourself again. If you are an expert, you should have given an opinion rather than making the statement you did. You think Gutt's full of it, doesn't know what he is talking about, what?
Of course its posturing. But only because you are
making this difficult - 500x as hard as it is.
Drop a nickle in the slot and the monkey will talk.
Blue Fairy.
Or, get off your lazy ass and read the thread.
Are you a responsibility shifter? Another Deadbeat
Cooperite looking for a free ride on some premise
it's owed you ?
You aren't Blue Fairy! You're just another broken toy
looking for a free dream ending, at any cost. You
think dreaming is FREE and owed you!
Borrow another nickel from Gayla and place your bet,
again, Sham Wow man.
Recycle yourself and your postering again, Sham.
Or, just read the thread and ask an intelligent
question for a change vs. claims and advisories
from Blue Fairy Adventure Books.
If the mtdna they already have is reliable enough to
be exclusionary, then Petey may have already been
excluded if they have Petey's dna, which it seems
they went to some effort to get ...
Your expert will probably agree.
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