BobKnoss 0 #33601 August 16, 2012 QuoteQuoteLike a fart in the wind, Cline, if you can post a little faster you might turn to butter! What a frickin' idiot! A head on a broom stick. You contribute absolutely NOTHING to any conversation. You HAVE to know how dumb you sound, don't you? At least Bleep can express a point, even if it's wrong. What a collection of people in need! Adios. Knoss, Make the "Adios" permanent and that will definitely improve this thread. And while you are leaving, take Jo Weber and all the other characters with their favorite "Cooper Candidates" with you. Robert99 Hey! I figured you out! You get everything wrong, backwards..... You're dyslexic, aren't you? YOU need to leave since everyone other than you is "wrong." You're in the wrong forum. But I can't find a forum you fit in.... Try the Obama Campaign, they NEED your help. Or, "Save the Whales". They got a ship leaving if you hurry. Any committed "sucker" job should be easy bait for you. You'd fit right in. Snipe hunting was invented for you and Mrs. Hutter. Take the pablum kid wid ja. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #33602 August 16, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteLike a fart in the wind, Cline, if you can post a little faster you might turn to butter! What a frickin' idiot! A head on a broom stick. You contribute absolutely NOTHING to any conversation. You HAVE to know how dumb you sound, don't you? At least Bleep can express a point, even if it's wrong. What a collection of people in need! Adios. Knoss, Make the "Adios" permanent and that will definitely improve this thread. And while you are leaving, take Jo Weber and all the other characters with their favorite "Cooper Candidates" with you. Robert99 Hey! I figured you out! You get everything wrong, backwards..... You're dyslexic, aren't you? YOU need to leave since everyone other than you is "wrong." You're in the wrong forum. But I can't find a forum you fit in.... Try the Obama Campaign, they NEED your help. Or, "Save the Whales". They got a ship leaving if you hurry. Any committed "sucker" job should be easy bait for you. You'd fit right in. Snipe hunting was invented for you and Mrs. Hutter. Take the pablum kid wid ja. Not much meat on them. http://www.search-results.com/fr?q=snipe&atb=sysid%3D2%3Aappid%3D876%3Auid%3Dbaa5ab3bcf780d83%3Auc%3D1332958660%3Aq%3Dsnipe%3Asrc%3Dcrb%3Ao%3D1925&locale=en_US&desturi=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.westmidlandbirdclub.com%2Fresearch%2Fsbap%2Fsnipe.htm&initialURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.search-results.com%2Fpictures%3Fqsrc%3D167%26o%3D1925%26l%3Ddis%26q%3Dsnipe%26atb%3Dsysid%253D2%253Aappid%253D876%253Auid%253Dbaa5ab3bcf780d83%253Auc%253D1332958660%253Aq%253Dsnipe%253Asrc%253Dcrb%253Ao%253D1925%26locale%3Den_US&fm=i&ac=648&fsel=1&ftURI=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.search-results.com%2Ffr%3Fq%3Dsnipe%26desturi%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.westmidlandbirdclub.com%252Fresearch%252Fsbap%252Fsnipe.htm%26imagesrc%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.westmidlandbirdclub.com%252Fimages%252Fresearch%252Fsnipe.gif%26thumbsrc%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fmedia4.picsearch.com%252Fis%253F9UIME0u6sWSyWkwUK9r3syh_jSMiK2iVeiqU5E6vHZw%26o%3D1925%26l%3Ddis%26thumbuselocalisedstatic%3Dfalse%26thumbwidth%3D128%26thumbheight%3D100%26fn%3Dsnipe.gif%26imagewidth%3D315%26imageheight%3D245%26fs%3D34%26f%3D2%26fm%3Di%26fsel%3D1%26atb%3Dsysid%253D2%253Aappid%253D876%253Auid%253Dbaa5ab3bcf780d83%253Auc%253D1332958660%253Aq%253Dsnipe%253Asrc%253Dcrb%253Ao%253D1925%26ftbURI%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.search-results.com%252Fpictures%253Fq%253Dsnipe%2526page%253D1%2526o%253D1925%2526l%253Ddis%2526pstart%253D0%2526atb%253Dsysid%25253D2%25253Aappid%25253D876%25253Auid%25253Dbaa5ab3bcf780d83%25253Auc%25253D1332958660%25253Aq%25253Dsnipe%25253Asrc%25253Dcrb%25253Ao%25253D1925%26atb%3Dsysid%253D2%253Aappid%253D876%253Auid%253Dbaa5ab3bcf780d83%253Auc%253D1332958660%253Aq%253Dsnipe%253Asrc%253Dcrb%253Ao%253D1925%26locale%3Den_US&qt=0 MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #33603 August 16, 2012 Can you give a logical, or even coherent, explanation for what you are doing on this thread? Quote IIRC...SHE started it. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrshutter45 21 #33604 August 16, 2012 6th time now Mr Truth! please advise us as to how you came about 10- 15 miles west of the original flight path? you keep saying you are about truth but yet you claim Flying Cloud was something else, you won't admit your mistake with Matt in calling out Bill Rataczak as TOG you try and use a dead end lead (Janet) to add to your story? you are the one who needs to leave. please tell us once again how you arrived at 10-15 miles west? no side tracking hogwash by candy coating your BS! I'll tell you the answer....it puts you so far west that they wouldn't need to "go around Portland" "you and Mrs. Hutter." how old are you Bob? you act like a 10 year old once you are cornered!"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert99 50 #33605 August 16, 2012 Quote Can you give a logical, or even coherent, explanation for what you are doing on this thread? Quote IIRC...SHE started it. Airtwardo, Is that a reason or an excuse for what she is doing now?Robert99 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #33606 August 16, 2012 Quote Quote Can you give a logical, or even coherent, explanation for what you are doing on this thread? Quote IIRC...SHE started it. Airtwardo, Is that a reason or an excuse for what she is doing now?Robert99 ...YES! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobKnoss 0 #33607 August 17, 2012 Quote6th time now Mr Truth! please advise us as to how you came about 10- 15 miles west of the original flight path? you keep saying you are about truth but yet you claim Flying Cloud was something else, you won't admit your mistake with Matt in calling out Bill Rataczak as TOG you try and use a dead end lead (Janet) to add to your story? you are the one who needs to leave. please tell us once again how you arrived at 10-15 miles west? no side tracking hogwash by candy coating your BS! I'll tell you the answer....it puts you so far west that they wouldn't need to "go around Portland" "you and Mrs. Hutter." how old are you Bob? you act like a 10 year old once you are cornered! I got it from a friend of mine who flew for Northwest and was on that flight. I think he would know, huh? Now blow that one up and paste it on your wall, clown! I have a pile of rocks in my front yard that have better info than you. You are beyond help. Go find a job. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrshutter45 21 #33608 August 17, 2012 QuoteQuote6th time now Mr Truth! please advise us as to how you came about 10- 15 miles west of the original flight path? and Bill Rataczak is not your friend either! TOG lmao you keep saying you are about truth but yet you claim Flying Cloud was something else, you won't admit your mistake with Matt in calling out Bill Rataczak as TOG you try and use a dead end lead (Janet) to add to your story? you are the one who needs to leave. please tell us once again how you arrived at 10-15 miles west? no side tracking hogwash by candy coating your BS! I'll tell you the answer....it puts you so far west that they wouldn't need to "go around Portland" "you and Mrs. Hutter." how old are you Bob? you act like a 10 year old once you are cornered! I got it from a friend of mine who flew for Northwest and was on that flight. I think he would know, huh? Now blow that one up and paste it on your wall, clown! I have a pile of rocks in my front yard that have better info than you. You are beyond help. Go find a job. Don't try the Dave Haapala crap again Bob, you didn't answer the question (no shock there) you were the "keeper of information" remember, Bob 10 miles from the flight path puts you over the river and 15 puts you route 30! your friend is as much of a fool as you are, right. 7th time, since you are the "keeper of the information" please tell us why you made your map that you were so proud of showing everythng shifted to the east and north, Amboy in the wrong County etc etc also refresh our minds on the Oil Pipeline that does not run thru Washington or Oregon? yout Liberal tactics are getting old Mr Consevative!"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MeyerLouie 5 #33609 August 17, 2012 This worries me greatly as Bruce is very active in responding to my e-mails and phone calls normally. I fear he has had some kind of heart attack and is in the Hospital or even worse. Mark (377) have you heard anything? _________________________________________________ Hey y'all: I got an email from Bruce. He's fine. He was back east, visiting family, taking a break. I'm sure you will be hearing from him soon, if he hasnt't already checked in with the DZ. MeyerLouie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #33610 August 17, 2012 Quote Can you give a logical, or even coherent, explanation for what you are doing on this thread? Robert99 Yes, I can. Can You give a logical or coherent explanation of WHAT you are doing on this thread? I am here BECAUSE my husband confessed to the Deed. My research into his background coupled with our trip to WA and the many other things he told me over the 17 yrs. Things he told me in 3rd person was ACTUALLY Duane's way of telling me about HIS life... I nor this thread have been able to PROVE he actually ever lied to me. He just used the 3rd person in telling me about his life (which was evident from the many things I did find). In fact this thread FOUND the St. Petersburg article. The FBI sure didn't tell me about it. WHY? Because it put a kink in the what the FBI claimed! It made his prison record - QUESTIONABLE. I will not bother to list all the reasons why I am here in this thread. I will tell you this - the THREAD would NOT be here if it were NOT for me. WHY are YOU HERE?Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #33611 August 17, 2012 Quote Can you give a logical, or even coherent, explanation for what you are doing on this thread? Quote IIRC...SHE started it. THANK YOU! I didn't see your post because I had NOT got that far before firing a post off at Robt99. Thank's for the re-affirmation!Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sailshaw 0 #33612 August 17, 2012 To add to sailshaw post, the following is from Galen Cook: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob: I chatted with Bruce Smith a while back and he reminded me to get ahold of you. This will be fairly short, but I wanted to tell you that your request to get DNA from the envelope seals on the Cooper letters is something I've been pushing for years. The FBI showed me the letter that Cooper sent to Portland. It has a seal on the back with two postage stamps on the front. A good bet that some DNA could be acquired. Also, I'm working with the police chief in British Columbia to try and obtain the Cooper letter that was sent to the Vancouver, BC newspaper. The other two letters were sent to the Reno newspaper, and I believe they were picked-up by the FBI and sent to Virginia back in 1971. No fingerprints on any of them, but probably plenty of DNA. You are on the right track, Sailshaw. The FBI has been helpful in some ways, but they need prodding. Galen Cook ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So, I will try to keep the pressure on the FBI to test the DNA under the four stamps/envelope flaps for comparison with Sheridan's DNA. The cost can't be very much as the add on TV shows a van that will test for your DNA for less than $ 400.00. The van says "Who's your Daddy" so you can compare your DNA with who ever. So, who is your DB Cooper? Bob Sailshaw sailshaw@aol.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #33613 August 17, 2012 Quote Quote Can you give a logical, or even coherent, explanation for what you are doing on this thread? Quote IIRC...SHE started it. Airtwardo, Is that a reason or an excuse for what she is doing now?Robert99 WHAT the xxxx am I doing now? Well, you might have to retract those words in the very near future! Perhaps you will have more than egg on your face when things I have stated are presented to more than just this thread. I have NOT seen YOU state ONE thing to DISPROVE anything, I have told. NOR has the FBI presentrf anything to disprove Weber was NOT Cooper. Perhaps this is a GAME for you and others - IT is NOT for me. It is about finding the truth about Duane Weber and Dan Cooper - be they one and the same or not.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 244 #33614 August 17, 2012 QuoteTo add to sailshaw post, the following is from Galen Cook: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob: I chatted with Bruce Smith a while back and he reminded me to get ahold of you. This will be fairly short, but I wanted to tell you that your request to get DNA from the envelope seals on the Cooper letters is something I've been pushing for years. The FBI showed me the letter that Cooper sent to Portland. It has a seal on the back with two postage stamps on the front. A good bet that some DNA could be acquired. Also, I'm working with the police chief in British Columbia to try and obtain the Cooper letter that was sent to the Vancouver, BC newspaper. The other two letters were sent to the Reno newspaper, and I believe they were picked-up by the FBI and sent to Virginia back in 1971. No fingerprints on any of them, but probably plenty of DNA. You are on the right track, Sailshaw. The FBI has been helpful in some ways, but they need prodding. Galen Cook ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So, I will try to keep the pressure on the FBI to test the DNA under the four stamps/envelope flaps for comparison with Sheridan's DNA. The cost can't be very much as the add on TV shows a van that will test for your DNA for less than $ 400.00. The van says "Who's your Daddy" so you can compare your DNA with who ever. So, who is your DB Cooper? Bob Sailshaw sailshaw@aol.com for your info - http://eebweb.arizona.edu/nachman/Further%20Interest/Metzker_2009.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 244 #33615 August 17, 2012 Quote Quote Robert says: I notice you didn't actually comment upon that claim, but merely postured yourself again. If you are an expert, you should have given an opinion rather than making the statement you did. You think Gutt's full of it, doesn't know what he is talking about, what? Georger replies: 'Of course its posturing. But only because you are making this difficult - 500x as hard as it is. Drop a nickle in the slot and the monkey will talk. Blue Fairy. Or, get off your lazy ass and read the thread. Are you a responsibility shifter? Another Deadbeat Cooperite looking for a free ride on some premise it's owed you ? You aren't Blue Fairy! You're just another broken toy looking for a free dream ending, at any cost. You think dreaming is FREE and owed you! Borrow another nickel from Gayla and place your bet, again, Sham Wow man. Recycle yourself and your postering again, Sham. Or, just read the thread and ask an intelligent question for a change vs. claims and advisories from Blue Fairy Adventure Books. Right....yeah. Your reply, (as usual) makes little or no sense. Once again, in case you are hearing challenged: I never said I was a DNA expert. I merely quoted (Seattle FBI agent) Gutt there. Basically, he said the FBI cannot match a DNA sample taken from a suspect to the current profile (they have obtained) from the tie. He did however...say that they could eliminate someone based upon it. Do I know what this means? Not really. I notice you didn't actually comment upon that claim, but merely postured yourself again. If you are an expert, you should have given an opinion rather than making the statement you did. You think Gutt's full of it, doesn't know what he is talking about, what? BTW...you do yourself no favors by insulting Gayla, who only does the financials for AB and couldn't care less about the Cooper case, which she considered nothing but a drain on our limited resources. Are you sure your name isn't really Brent Butler? You are beginning to sound like him. for the ten billionth time, Sham Wow -- READ THE THREAD IF YOU WANT INFO. USE THE SEARCH BOX. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #33616 August 17, 2012 QuoteTo add to sailshaw post, the following is from Galen Cook: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob: I chatted with Bruce Smith a while back and he reminded me to get ahold of you. This will be fairly short, but I wanted to tell you that your request to get DNA from the envelope seals on the Cooper letters is something I've been pushing for years. The FBI showed me the letter that Cooper sent to Portland. It has a seal on the back with two postage stamps on the front. A good bet that some DNA could be acquired. Also, I'm working with the police chief in British Columbia to try and obtain the Cooper letter that was sent to the Vancouver, BC newspaper. The other two letters were sent to the Reno newspaper, and I believe they were picked-up by the FBI and sent to Virginia back in 1971. No fingerprints on any of them, but probably plenty of DNA. You are on the right track, Sailshaw. The FBI has been helpful in some ways, but they need prodding. Galen Cook -------------------------------- Bob I seriously do not believe that Cook has spoke with the FBI recently. As for HIS request to get DNA from the envelopes. Won't happen! At least NOT one of them. I was told - forget which of the letters it was. At least one of the envelopes was destroyed by a mail clerk opening mail for the newpaper..... By the time they realized what they had, the envelope was long gone. They thought it was a hoax. No one, NOT even the FBI has posted the note with the sets of numbers on it "If you break the code you can find me". Was the concept of this NOTE a hoax also? It was supposedly sent to Reno. The numbers were in code and stood for both Duane's Navy and Army records. Perhaps that CODE letter was a hoax to see where I would go with it. I did NOT know about the "coded" note until this thread....therefore I do NOT know if it existed or if someone was yanking my chain. Strange the numbers were a combination of Duane Navy and Army numbers. In the back of Duane's address book - a metal one with a flip opening on it. Before I knew who Dan Cooper was it had been taken to the Thrift Store and the contents destroyed. I had written down a series of number and a phone number in Chicago. I asked what it was about and he told me it was a phone number I am supposed to call if I ever get in trouble. Year's later I tried to call that number and it was an apartment building in Chicago. The man who answered told me he just worked there - and they had several residents. He would NOT provide me with any names. Was nice, but abrupt. A set of numbers and letters were also written on the page. Duane had told me it was a code he was supposed to use. I probably shrugged my shoulder and went on doing what I was doing. Not realizing the code and the phone number went together at that time. I wish I had not thrown and gave so much away, but he had been gone for a yr and I needed to move on... Well, it was only a couple of weeks later I found out who DAN COOPER was and my world was upside down only 1 or 2 days after making what was at that time one of the highest scores ever made on the State Real Estate Exam.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 244 #33617 August 17, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteRobert says: I notice you didn't actually comment upon that claim, but merely postured yourself again. If you are an expert, you should have given an opinion rather than making the statement you did. You think Gutt's full of it, doesn't know what he is talking about, what? smarm noted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 244 #33618 August 17, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Robert says: I notice you didn't actually comment upon that claim, but merely postured yourself again. If you are an expert, you should have given an opinion rather than making the statement you did. You think Gutt's full of it, doesn't know what he is talking about, what? smarm noted. I'll bet you were good at dodge ball when you were a kid. Current Post Credibility=Zero on the Kelvin Scale, at best. Do you have a notebook where you 'note' these things? Are we returning to your original format? Now WHO exactly is picking on WHO? fbi, jO, gEESTMAN, jO, gEESTMAN, bRUCE, jO, bRUCE, gEESTMAN, fbi, bOOK dEALERS, gEESTMAN, kAYE, tHOMAS, gRAY, fbi, jO, gEESTMAN, cOOK, cOOK, cOOK, cOOK, cOOK, cOOK, cOOK, cOOK, jO, gEESTMAN, mARLA!, fbi, qUADE, gEESTMAN, gEORGER, mARLA, gEORGER, mALA, mARLA, mARLA, gEESTMAN, bRUCE, kAYE, gEESTMAN, mARLA, bK, gEORGER, gEORGER, gEORGER, qUADE, gEORGER, mARLA, fbi, cOOK, cOOK, cOOK, gEOGER, fbi, gEORGER, ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ........... [edit] I forgot Sluggo and Queen Mary, TIGHAR, universities, professors, school teachers, and cops! Dogs, cats, sailboats, General Motors,CIA, Sailshaw, snails turtles, anyone who agrees with Georger, anyone who wanted to hear Marla, anyone who wanted to hear Geestman, anyone who wanted to hear anything you did not want heard, etc ......... alleged disrupters at your Tea Party Symposiums, poets who are better than you, English majors, experts on anything, ............................... all authority figures .......................... Cook! Your hit-list is endless. With you around here nobody DARES!!! say anything of any consequence. For example: do you know that in Janet's circle there was a a relationship with people at Foss Tugs where Geestman worked ? That's a fact. I know Janet is already on your hit list. but I thought you deserved to know. Now you know. Hey Blevins. Did you ever find any other users of the same park on the same weekend Kenny and Geestman were supposedly there in their trailer? Did you ever think to look or ask? Maybe people arent telling you the whole story Why would they? Especially in your case! When Porteous was looking for a "schlep" to make him some momey for his retirement, he found you, right? You took all the risk and did all the work, at your expense? Right? That it seems to me is a strong incentive for a pre-ordained result. And now you are lost with nothing to show for the effort, and no recourse as usual. Blevins, you really have to stop being so damned nice to people and trusting. Start looking out for yourself! I can see why you are pissed, in general, but no point in attacking everyone that walks by. That only highlights your own malfunctions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matthewcline 0 #33619 August 17, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Can you give a logical, or even coherent, explanation for what you are doing on this thread? Quote IIRC...SHE started it. Airtwardo, Is that a reason or an excuse for what she is doing now?Robert99 WHAT the xxxx am I doing now? Well, you might have to retract those words in the very near future! Perhaps you will have more than egg on your face when things I have stated are presented to more than just this thread. I have NOT seen YOU state ONE thing to DISPROVE anything, I have told. NOR has the FBI presentrf anything to disprove Weber was NOT Cooper. Perhaps this is a GAME for you and others - IT is NOT for me. It is about finding the truth about Duane Weber and Dan Cooper - be they one and the same or not. Where will they be presented, Jo? MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjack71 0 #33620 August 18, 2012 Quote When Porteous was looking for a "schlep" to make him some momey for his retirement, he found you, right? You took all the risk and did all the work, at your expense? Right? That it seems to me is a strong incentive for a pre-ordained result. And now you are lost with nothing to show for the effort, and no recourse as usual. Blevins, you really have to stop being so damned nice to people and trusting. Start looking out for yourself! I can see why you are pissed, in general,but no point in attacking everyone that walks by. That only highlights your own malfunctions. Georger, that was a pretty decent post and pretty accuate except for the laugh. Blevins is perplexed and so am I by all of this. I feel sorry for him and do know how he feels. I got MYSELF into this and only because I wanted to know the TRUTH about Duane Weber. Belvins got swept up by Porteous. Things do add up regarding Weber, but the FBI will never EAT crow regarding any suspect and you can almost bet on that.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjack71 0 #33621 August 18, 2012 Quote Airtwardo, Is that a reason or an excuse for what she is doing now?Robert99 Jo wants to know! Not just to Robert99, but anyone else who questions my reasons or excuse for being here. Why should I have an excuse for seeking the truth? What is your excuse for seeking whatever it is YOU are seeking or your excuse for you being in this thread? I will repeat my prior statement below: "I have NOT seen YOU (or anyone else) state ONE thing to DISPROVE anything, I have told. NOR has the FBI presented anything to disprove Weber was NOT Cooper". For 17 yrs I have tried to get the FBI to REALLY look into Duane Weber's past - not just the surface search they did. I have gone below the surface and produced things that raise eyebrows. Not just to this thread as most of what I have been doing has been shared with "others". I only recently let you guys know I have been working on the Derry thing - because it was time as I had done as much as I could alone. I had hinted at this in the past. Seems like there are a SOME of you who do NOT want certain things to surface. Namely an individual in TX. I don't know who some of you REALLY are - just characters on a thread and some are genuinely interested in this case being solved. MatthewCline you have produced a lot of trivia I had access to yrs ago - so WHAT is your Excuse or Reason for being here? Throwing out the trivia and actually persuing the truths seems to be difficult for some of you. MattewCline - what have YOU contributed to this thread and to the search for Cooper's identity? 90% of you are here only to be here or just curious. The other 10% are here seeking what they can find. By dropping what they know or think they know - hoping someone else just might know what the missing links are or accidentally find a new clue within all of the garbage. Some are here just to promote themselves and to see how much garbage some people will actually feed off of...such as BK. There are those who come here because they are curious and would like to see this case solved. Other come here to make themselves seem important and relevant to this case. I am here because I lived what I have told and I want to know why and how - Duane would relate these things to me. He had NO idea I would absorb so much of what he told me over our 17 yrs together. He was frustrated when he actually tried to tell me about himself - because I had lost touch with the past and was only concerned about OUR life and what he was going thru with the kidney disease and facing his own death. He never seemed to be afraid - he made the decision to end his life - no one else made it for him. I only wish I had listened more to what he did tell me about his life - This thread helped me to realize he had told me about his life in the 3rd Party. This was confirmed when the St. Pete, FL. article was made available by someone on this thread - then and only then did I really understand he had actually told me about HIS life over the yrs. I have lost the connection about 12 times trying to make this post. have only dial-up and do appreciate one poster who tried to teach me how to make a post in word and then bring it to the thread. Doesn't work for this old girl.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjack71 0 #33622 August 18, 2012 Jo posted: WHAT the xxxx am I doing now? Well, you might have to retract those words in the very near future! Perhaps you will have more than egg on your face when things I have stated are presented to more than just this thread. I have NOT seen YOU state ONE thing to DISPROVE anything, I have told. NOR has the FBI presented anything of value to disprove Weber was NOT Cooper. Perhaps this is a GAME for you and others - IT is NOT for me. It is about finding the truth about Duane Weber and Dan Cooper - be they one and the same or not. MatthewCline asked the question below: Quote Where will they be presented, Jo? Matt Yrs ago a project was 5 days underway when BLACKS pulled up and identified themselves as Federal Agents. They were asked NICELY to Stop as it was a matter of National Security. An elderly gentleman involved in the project relayed this to me Many Many yrs ago. The project was about Cooper and the actor was Robert Mitchum. I thought perhaps he had passed away, but spoke with him just a few wks ago. His reputation is NOT without skepticism - so I do NOT know if it is true. When someone did some research on him - I had my doubts. Still do, but it is strange his intense investigation was shunned by the FBI as was the story about Weber. His suspect was one of the very first Cooper suspects no one even mentions anymore. It was the contentions his suspect was too old, but his suspect claimed others were invovled. This elderly gentleman proved to me the articles written in the Las Vegan were all plagerized by Brown. He produced the PROOF regarding the plagarizm (I have the proof) - as almost word for word the same article had been in the London Time a long long time before Brown "supposedly" wrote his article for the Las Vegan. Is it true? I don't know! Just what I was told and this elderly gentleman's story has remained consistent during all of these yrs.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 244 #33623 August 18, 2012 Robert: You are WAY behind on the KC investigation. That was from the original (and somewhat flawed) first edition of the book, which was pulled two years ago and replaced with the Revised. That was Porteous' theory...that the two men may have picked Paradise Point State Park as their rendezvous. I didn't find out until Margie Geestman's last interview in October 2010 that the Geestman's owned a remote property just outside Oakville, WA...and THAT was where the trailer and wagon were stored after Geestman bought them. (Purchased approximately six weeks before the hijacking) Our current theory is that Geestman picked up Kenny from his apartment in Sumner, the two men drove to Portland where Kenny was dropped off, and that Geestman drove back to the Oakville property. There was a shop, but no house...although he was considering building one there, and later did. We don't know if there was a phone installed in the shop. After the men returned to the Bonney Lake/Sumner area, Geestman did bring home the wagon and trailer, which Helen Jones and family were allowed to borrow in Christmas 72, after they had a fire at their house. After the trailer was returned when the house repairs were complete...Geestman sold the trailer and wagon to a buyer from Arizona. We don't know what happened to it after that. This testimony is from Jones and her daughter from their October 2010 interviews. We also know that the one and only time Geestman ever used that trailer himself was the week of the hijacking. The only reason anyone is working with old info is your lack of an update, in the midst of all your other countless off topic posts here at DZ! One would think the author and researcher of a book would mention any important change in your basic theory of the case - to your public. I guess not! "a remote property just outside Oakville, WA ... with shop and no house (no telephone?). " So the meeting point "trailer" is now back up at Oakville off I35 below Tacoma, in some remote location, with a shed/shop on the property ... with electricity I guess? How does Kenny now get from the dropzone all the way back up to Oakville ? How do he and Geestman meet up, and when, and where? What's the new revised theory about that - since 2010? Its now 2012! I thought the prior naming of Paradise Park was due to some witness testimony, who got it out of Geestman or Kenny after the fact, pissed because Geestman had not shown up for Thanksgiving? IF Paradise Park was now never involved then how did it get inserted into your story and why, by who, in the first place? Arent you doing exactly what you blame Cook for doing? Revising the basic facts of your story and theory? Paradise Point was a crucial element in your previous version of your story... Decode us. Quite frankly, Mr. Blevins, its beginning to sound like you dont even have a plausible story, or the witness testimony you previously said you had and were relying on in your previous theory? If you knew this clear back in 2010 and said nothing here, then where have you been all these years, doing what in regard to your case while making persistent strong demands on us and the FBI ! ? I mean either you have a few crucial facts that hold together or you don't. Your whole story and theory seem to be melting before our eyes, starting clear back with your erroneous account of the comic at Shemya. I think we are owed an explanation - BTW, your weather analysis scenario has been proven fiction since you last brought that up also - I think its you out of touch and not paying attention! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 244 #33624 August 18, 2012 Quote Quote 'The only reason anyone is working with old info is your lack of an update, in the midst of all your other countless off topic posts here at DZ! One would think the author and researcher of a book would mention any important change in your basic theory of the case - to your public. I guess not!...' Georger: Are you kidding me? The updated KC story has been available since December, 2010. I've made that plain several times. I've repeatedly offered you a free copy in PDF, which you ignored. That is not my fault. What the heck did you think I was talking about all this time? What the heck do you think people have been reading all this time? Oh, brother. Send me your email and I'll send you the complete PDF in hi-res, no problem. Can't believe you made that reference to 'updating the public'. Are you joking? I've made Blast a free download at least three times this year for Kindle. Thousands of people took advantage. Maybe you should have been one of them. Better with the PDF, though. You can expand the pictures, and beat it like a red-haired stepchild if you wish.As far as the weather, I stand by Weather Underground's historical data for PDX on 11/24/71. keep it all - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matthewcline 0 #33625 August 18, 2012 Quote Jo posted: WHAT the xxxx am I doing now? Well, you might have to retract those words in the very near future! Perhaps you will have more than egg on your face when things I have stated are presented to more than just this thread. I have NOT seen YOU state ONE thing to DISPROVE anything, I have told. NOR has the FBI presented anything of value to disprove Weber was NOT Cooper. Perhaps this is a GAME for you and others - IT is NOT for me. It is about finding the truth about Duane Weber and Dan Cooper - be they one and the same or not. MatthewCline asked the question below: Quote Where will they be presented, Jo? Matt Yrs ago a project was 5 days underway when BLACKS pulled up and identified themselves as Federal Agents. They were asked NICELY to Stop as it was a matter of National Security. An elderly gentleman involved in the project relayed this to me Many Many yrs ago. The project was about Cooper and the actor was Robert Mitchum. I thought perhaps he had passed away, but spoke with him just a few wks ago. His reputation is NOT without skepticism - so I do NOT know if it is true. When someone did some research on him - I had my doubts. Still do, but it is strange his intense investigation was shunned by the FBI as was the story about Weber. His suspect was one of the very first Cooper suspects no one even mentions anymore. It was the contentions his suspect was too old, but his suspect claimed others were invovled. This elderly gentleman proved to me the articles written in the Las Vegan were all plagerized by Brown. He produced the PROOF regarding the plagarizm (I have the proof) - as almost word for word the same article had been in the London Time a long long time before Brown "supposedly" wrote his article for the Las Vegan. Is it true? I don't know! Just what I was told and this elderly gentleman's story has remained consistent during all of these yrs. Every piece of "evidence" needs to be able to stand up to the burden of proof, every presenter of this evidence needs to stand up to the burden of credibility. So each item, and each, person is to be looked at with doubt, if a piece can't be proven, it is dismissed and the investigation moves on. If the presenter is shown to be wrong, then any thing presented is "suspect" and should be investigated for validity, not accepted as fact until proven to be so or not. You're so close to this, so wanting to be; "Mrs. Cooper", wife to a felon, that you take it personal, every time. IMO, if you just wanted to know about Duane's criminal past and who you married , you would not be here asking. Some of your facts were off, but they didn't disprove, or prove, Duane Weber had the connections or training. That will take physical evidence, sworn statements, and with standing the burden of proof test. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1340 1341 1342 1343 1344 1345 1346 1347 1348 1349 1350 Next Page 1345 of 2570 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. 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georger 244 #33618 August 17, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Robert says: I notice you didn't actually comment upon that claim, but merely postured yourself again. If you are an expert, you should have given an opinion rather than making the statement you did. You think Gutt's full of it, doesn't know what he is talking about, what? smarm noted. I'll bet you were good at dodge ball when you were a kid. Current Post Credibility=Zero on the Kelvin Scale, at best. Do you have a notebook where you 'note' these things? Are we returning to your original format? Now WHO exactly is picking on WHO? fbi, jO, gEESTMAN, jO, gEESTMAN, bRUCE, jO, bRUCE, gEESTMAN, fbi, bOOK dEALERS, gEESTMAN, kAYE, tHOMAS, gRAY, fbi, jO, gEESTMAN, cOOK, cOOK, cOOK, cOOK, cOOK, cOOK, cOOK, cOOK, jO, gEESTMAN, mARLA!, fbi, qUADE, gEESTMAN, gEORGER, mARLA, gEORGER, mALA, mARLA, mARLA, gEESTMAN, bRUCE, kAYE, gEESTMAN, mARLA, bK, gEORGER, gEORGER, gEORGER, qUADE, gEORGER, mARLA, fbi, cOOK, cOOK, cOOK, gEOGER, fbi, gEORGER, ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ........... [edit] I forgot Sluggo and Queen Mary, TIGHAR, universities, professors, school teachers, and cops! Dogs, cats, sailboats, General Motors,CIA, Sailshaw, snails turtles, anyone who agrees with Georger, anyone who wanted to hear Marla, anyone who wanted to hear Geestman, anyone who wanted to hear anything you did not want heard, etc ......... alleged disrupters at your Tea Party Symposiums, poets who are better than you, English majors, experts on anything, ............................... all authority figures .......................... Cook! Your hit-list is endless. With you around here nobody DARES!!! say anything of any consequence. For example: do you know that in Janet's circle there was a a relationship with people at Foss Tugs where Geestman worked ? That's a fact. I know Janet is already on your hit list. but I thought you deserved to know. Now you know. Hey Blevins. Did you ever find any other users of the same park on the same weekend Kenny and Geestman were supposedly there in their trailer? Did you ever think to look or ask? Maybe people arent telling you the whole story Why would they? Especially in your case! When Porteous was looking for a "schlep" to make him some momey for his retirement, he found you, right? You took all the risk and did all the work, at your expense? Right? That it seems to me is a strong incentive for a pre-ordained result. And now you are lost with nothing to show for the effort, and no recourse as usual. Blevins, you really have to stop being so damned nice to people and trusting. Start looking out for yourself! I can see why you are pissed, in general, but no point in attacking everyone that walks by. That only highlights your own malfunctions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #33619 August 17, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Can you give a logical, or even coherent, explanation for what you are doing on this thread? Quote IIRC...SHE started it. Airtwardo, Is that a reason or an excuse for what she is doing now?Robert99 WHAT the xxxx am I doing now? Well, you might have to retract those words in the very near future! Perhaps you will have more than egg on your face when things I have stated are presented to more than just this thread. I have NOT seen YOU state ONE thing to DISPROVE anything, I have told. NOR has the FBI presentrf anything to disprove Weber was NOT Cooper. Perhaps this is a GAME for you and others - IT is NOT for me. It is about finding the truth about Duane Weber and Dan Cooper - be they one and the same or not. Where will they be presented, Jo? MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #33620 August 18, 2012 Quote When Porteous was looking for a "schlep" to make him some momey for his retirement, he found you, right? You took all the risk and did all the work, at your expense? Right? That it seems to me is a strong incentive for a pre-ordained result. And now you are lost with nothing to show for the effort, and no recourse as usual. Blevins, you really have to stop being so damned nice to people and trusting. Start looking out for yourself! I can see why you are pissed, in general,but no point in attacking everyone that walks by. That only highlights your own malfunctions. Georger, that was a pretty decent post and pretty accuate except for the laugh. Blevins is perplexed and so am I by all of this. I feel sorry for him and do know how he feels. I got MYSELF into this and only because I wanted to know the TRUTH about Duane Weber. Belvins got swept up by Porteous. Things do add up regarding Weber, but the FBI will never EAT crow regarding any suspect and you can almost bet on that.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #33621 August 18, 2012 Quote Airtwardo, Is that a reason or an excuse for what she is doing now?Robert99 Jo wants to know! Not just to Robert99, but anyone else who questions my reasons or excuse for being here. Why should I have an excuse for seeking the truth? What is your excuse for seeking whatever it is YOU are seeking or your excuse for you being in this thread? I will repeat my prior statement below: "I have NOT seen YOU (or anyone else) state ONE thing to DISPROVE anything, I have told. NOR has the FBI presented anything to disprove Weber was NOT Cooper". For 17 yrs I have tried to get the FBI to REALLY look into Duane Weber's past - not just the surface search they did. I have gone below the surface and produced things that raise eyebrows. Not just to this thread as most of what I have been doing has been shared with "others". I only recently let you guys know I have been working on the Derry thing - because it was time as I had done as much as I could alone. I had hinted at this in the past. Seems like there are a SOME of you who do NOT want certain things to surface. Namely an individual in TX. I don't know who some of you REALLY are - just characters on a thread and some are genuinely interested in this case being solved. MatthewCline you have produced a lot of trivia I had access to yrs ago - so WHAT is your Excuse or Reason for being here? Throwing out the trivia and actually persuing the truths seems to be difficult for some of you. MattewCline - what have YOU contributed to this thread and to the search for Cooper's identity? 90% of you are here only to be here or just curious. The other 10% are here seeking what they can find. By dropping what they know or think they know - hoping someone else just might know what the missing links are or accidentally find a new clue within all of the garbage. Some are here just to promote themselves and to see how much garbage some people will actually feed off of...such as BK. There are those who come here because they are curious and would like to see this case solved. Other come here to make themselves seem important and relevant to this case. I am here because I lived what I have told and I want to know why and how - Duane would relate these things to me. He had NO idea I would absorb so much of what he told me over our 17 yrs together. He was frustrated when he actually tried to tell me about himself - because I had lost touch with the past and was only concerned about OUR life and what he was going thru with the kidney disease and facing his own death. He never seemed to be afraid - he made the decision to end his life - no one else made it for him. I only wish I had listened more to what he did tell me about his life - This thread helped me to realize he had told me about his life in the 3rd Party. This was confirmed when the St. Pete, FL. article was made available by someone on this thread - then and only then did I really understand he had actually told me about HIS life over the yrs. I have lost the connection about 12 times trying to make this post. have only dial-up and do appreciate one poster who tried to teach me how to make a post in word and then bring it to the thread. Doesn't work for this old girl.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #33622 August 18, 2012 Jo posted: WHAT the xxxx am I doing now? Well, you might have to retract those words in the very near future! Perhaps you will have more than egg on your face when things I have stated are presented to more than just this thread. I have NOT seen YOU state ONE thing to DISPROVE anything, I have told. NOR has the FBI presented anything of value to disprove Weber was NOT Cooper. Perhaps this is a GAME for you and others - IT is NOT for me. It is about finding the truth about Duane Weber and Dan Cooper - be they one and the same or not. MatthewCline asked the question below: Quote Where will they be presented, Jo? Matt Yrs ago a project was 5 days underway when BLACKS pulled up and identified themselves as Federal Agents. They were asked NICELY to Stop as it was a matter of National Security. An elderly gentleman involved in the project relayed this to me Many Many yrs ago. The project was about Cooper and the actor was Robert Mitchum. I thought perhaps he had passed away, but spoke with him just a few wks ago. His reputation is NOT without skepticism - so I do NOT know if it is true. When someone did some research on him - I had my doubts. Still do, but it is strange his intense investigation was shunned by the FBI as was the story about Weber. His suspect was one of the very first Cooper suspects no one even mentions anymore. It was the contentions his suspect was too old, but his suspect claimed others were invovled. This elderly gentleman proved to me the articles written in the Las Vegan were all plagerized by Brown. He produced the PROOF regarding the plagarizm (I have the proof) - as almost word for word the same article had been in the London Time a long long time before Brown "supposedly" wrote his article for the Las Vegan. Is it true? I don't know! Just what I was told and this elderly gentleman's story has remained consistent during all of these yrs.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 244 #33623 August 18, 2012 Robert: You are WAY behind on the KC investigation. That was from the original (and somewhat flawed) first edition of the book, which was pulled two years ago and replaced with the Revised. That was Porteous' theory...that the two men may have picked Paradise Point State Park as their rendezvous. I didn't find out until Margie Geestman's last interview in October 2010 that the Geestman's owned a remote property just outside Oakville, WA...and THAT was where the trailer and wagon were stored after Geestman bought them. (Purchased approximately six weeks before the hijacking) Our current theory is that Geestman picked up Kenny from his apartment in Sumner, the two men drove to Portland where Kenny was dropped off, and that Geestman drove back to the Oakville property. There was a shop, but no house...although he was considering building one there, and later did. We don't know if there was a phone installed in the shop. After the men returned to the Bonney Lake/Sumner area, Geestman did bring home the wagon and trailer, which Helen Jones and family were allowed to borrow in Christmas 72, after they had a fire at their house. After the trailer was returned when the house repairs were complete...Geestman sold the trailer and wagon to a buyer from Arizona. We don't know what happened to it after that. This testimony is from Jones and her daughter from their October 2010 interviews. We also know that the one and only time Geestman ever used that trailer himself was the week of the hijacking. The only reason anyone is working with old info is your lack of an update, in the midst of all your other countless off topic posts here at DZ! One would think the author and researcher of a book would mention any important change in your basic theory of the case - to your public. I guess not! "a remote property just outside Oakville, WA ... with shop and no house (no telephone?). " So the meeting point "trailer" is now back up at Oakville off I35 below Tacoma, in some remote location, with a shed/shop on the property ... with electricity I guess? How does Kenny now get from the dropzone all the way back up to Oakville ? How do he and Geestman meet up, and when, and where? What's the new revised theory about that - since 2010? Its now 2012! I thought the prior naming of Paradise Park was due to some witness testimony, who got it out of Geestman or Kenny after the fact, pissed because Geestman had not shown up for Thanksgiving? IF Paradise Park was now never involved then how did it get inserted into your story and why, by who, in the first place? Arent you doing exactly what you blame Cook for doing? Revising the basic facts of your story and theory? Paradise Point was a crucial element in your previous version of your story... Decode us. Quite frankly, Mr. Blevins, its beginning to sound like you dont even have a plausible story, or the witness testimony you previously said you had and were relying on in your previous theory? If you knew this clear back in 2010 and said nothing here, then where have you been all these years, doing what in regard to your case while making persistent strong demands on us and the FBI ! ? I mean either you have a few crucial facts that hold together or you don't. Your whole story and theory seem to be melting before our eyes, starting clear back with your erroneous account of the comic at Shemya. I think we are owed an explanation - BTW, your weather analysis scenario has been proven fiction since you last brought that up also - I think its you out of touch and not paying attention! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 244 #33624 August 18, 2012 Quote Quote 'The only reason anyone is working with old info is your lack of an update, in the midst of all your other countless off topic posts here at DZ! One would think the author and researcher of a book would mention any important change in your basic theory of the case - to your public. I guess not!...' Georger: Are you kidding me? The updated KC story has been available since December, 2010. I've made that plain several times. I've repeatedly offered you a free copy in PDF, which you ignored. That is not my fault. What the heck did you think I was talking about all this time? What the heck do you think people have been reading all this time? Oh, brother. Send me your email and I'll send you the complete PDF in hi-res, no problem. Can't believe you made that reference to 'updating the public'. Are you joking? I've made Blast a free download at least three times this year for Kindle. Thousands of people took advantage. Maybe you should have been one of them. Better with the PDF, though. You can expand the pictures, and beat it like a red-haired stepchild if you wish.As far as the weather, I stand by Weather Underground's historical data for PDX on 11/24/71. keep it all - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #33625 August 18, 2012 Quote Jo posted: WHAT the xxxx am I doing now? Well, you might have to retract those words in the very near future! Perhaps you will have more than egg on your face when things I have stated are presented to more than just this thread. I have NOT seen YOU state ONE thing to DISPROVE anything, I have told. NOR has the FBI presented anything of value to disprove Weber was NOT Cooper. Perhaps this is a GAME for you and others - IT is NOT for me. It is about finding the truth about Duane Weber and Dan Cooper - be they one and the same or not. MatthewCline asked the question below: Quote Where will they be presented, Jo? Matt Yrs ago a project was 5 days underway when BLACKS pulled up and identified themselves as Federal Agents. They were asked NICELY to Stop as it was a matter of National Security. An elderly gentleman involved in the project relayed this to me Many Many yrs ago. The project was about Cooper and the actor was Robert Mitchum. I thought perhaps he had passed away, but spoke with him just a few wks ago. His reputation is NOT without skepticism - so I do NOT know if it is true. When someone did some research on him - I had my doubts. Still do, but it is strange his intense investigation was shunned by the FBI as was the story about Weber. His suspect was one of the very first Cooper suspects no one even mentions anymore. It was the contentions his suspect was too old, but his suspect claimed others were invovled. This elderly gentleman proved to me the articles written in the Las Vegan were all plagerized by Brown. He produced the PROOF regarding the plagarizm (I have the proof) - as almost word for word the same article had been in the London Time a long long time before Brown "supposedly" wrote his article for the Las Vegan. Is it true? I don't know! Just what I was told and this elderly gentleman's story has remained consistent during all of these yrs. Every piece of "evidence" needs to be able to stand up to the burden of proof, every presenter of this evidence needs to stand up to the burden of credibility. So each item, and each, person is to be looked at with doubt, if a piece can't be proven, it is dismissed and the investigation moves on. If the presenter is shown to be wrong, then any thing presented is "suspect" and should be investigated for validity, not accepted as fact until proven to be so or not. You're so close to this, so wanting to be; "Mrs. Cooper", wife to a felon, that you take it personal, every time. IMO, if you just wanted to know about Duane's criminal past and who you married , you would not be here asking. Some of your facts were off, but they didn't disprove, or prove, Duane Weber had the connections or training. That will take physical evidence, sworn statements, and with standing the burden of proof test. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
