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We no longer have a snowmann in this forum, but there is no shortage of strawmen.
Marla only has her memories of when she is 8 years old and information her father told her. Those memories, she recalled later.
She would not know where her uncle landed -- it's likely she would not have heard that as an 8 year old and not something her father would have told her either. Anything she said was likely speculation.
The point I was trying to make was not to compare her to a Pulitzer prize winner (I think everyone except Robert Blevins got that), but like many people she knew SOMETHING, but she wasn't sure what she knew. And, what she did know wasn't conclusive by any means --but not so "out there" for the FBI to dismiss it either.
In the case of Marla's story (and this would be true of all of the other theories on here), we have no more information that would lead us to prove or disprove it than we had when it first came out.
And, 377, you're an attorney, correct? If you interviewed Sheridan as your client, he could tell you his whole story and the condition that nothing be revealed until his death and under attorney-client privilege, you could not be compelled to reveal it before then, right?
Marla only has her memories of when she is 8 years old and information her father told her. Those memories, she recalled later.
She would not know where her uncle landed -- it's likely she would not have heard that as an 8 year old and not something her father would have told her either. Anything she said was likely speculation.
The point I was trying to make was not to compare her to a Pulitzer prize winner (I think everyone except Robert Blevins got that), but like many people she knew SOMETHING, but she wasn't sure what she knew. And, what she did know wasn't conclusive by any means --but not so "out there" for the FBI to dismiss it either.
In the case of Marla's story (and this would be true of all of the other theories on here), we have no more information that would lead us to prove or disprove it than we had when it first came out.
And, 377, you're an attorney, correct? If you interviewed Sheridan as your client, he could tell you his whole story and the condition that nothing be revealed until his death and under attorney-client privilege, you could not be compelled to reveal it before then, right?
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Blevins:
Thanks for the reference in Nepal to mud huts and pictures of some.
From Blevins:
This was taken from a review on a travel website. There are many like it, where people mention mudbrick cottages with thatched roofs, although today the majority are using more modern construction. A picture of a typical Nepali mud hut is here: http://www.travelblog.org/Photos/3200908
Now that makes Sheridan's story about mud huts believable. How about the picture of him doing a demonstration jump before the NORJACK Caper dressed in the business chute and loafers. I know I have seen the photo but does anyone know where to find it?
Bob Sailshaw
sailshaw@aol.com
Thanks for the reference in Nepal to mud huts and pictures of some.
From Blevins:
This was taken from a review on a travel website. There are many like it, where people mention mudbrick cottages with thatched roofs, although today the majority are using more modern construction. A picture of a typical Nepali mud hut is here: http://www.travelblog.org/Photos/3200908
Now that makes Sheridan's story about mud huts believable. How about the picture of him doing a demonstration jump before the NORJACK Caper dressed in the business chute and loafers. I know I have seen the photo but does anyone know where to find it?
Bob Sailshaw
sailshaw@aol.com
georger 244
QuoteBlevins:
Thanks for the reference in Nepal to mud huts and pictures of some.
From Blevins:
This was taken from a review on a travel website. There are many like it, where people mention mudbrick cottages with thatched roofs, although today the majority are using more modern construction. A picture of a typical Nepali mud hut is here: http://www.travelblog.org/Photos/3200908
Now that makes Sheridan's story about mud huts believable. Bob Sailshaw
sailshaw@aol.com
Blevin's photo of a MUD HUT is from NORTHERN
INDIA, Sailshawl! Doesnt even apply to the Annapurna region except construction was done with
hands!
But apparently you now have all the help you need.
That's a relief and one thing less to do. Good luck
to yous.
I now doubt your whole rucking story, because its
obvious one mud hut is the same as the next one
to you! You are now Blevinated.
Dont forget your manners!
Sorry 377. Im done with this BS.
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MB wrote
Correct.
I'd take Sheridan's case pro bono...one old jumper helping another. It's a nice fantasy but it won't happen. Sheridan thinks I am FBI/CIA which is kinda ironic. I contribute regularly to an organization that sues the FBI and CIA to stop abuses and unconstitutional actions.
377
QuoteAnd, 377, you're an attorney, correct? If you interviewed Sheridan as your client, he could tell you his whole story and the condition that nothing be revealed until his death and under attorney-client privilege, you could not be compelled to reveal it before then, right?
Correct.
I'd take Sheridan's case pro bono...one old jumper helping another. It's a nice fantasy but it won't happen. Sheridan thinks I am FBI/CIA which is kinda ironic. I contribute regularly to an organization that sues the FBI and CIA to stop abuses and unconstitutional actions.
377
2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
smokin99 0
QuoteYeah! What SHE said!
You might not agree with her, but why pick on a lady who is old enough to be almost anyone's mother on this thread?
Some of you think you know everything.
Others, even though they are smarter than Benji the Dog, have no manners.
Lol...Oops Blevins, watch out for that petard.
And talking about a lady's age while lecturing others on manners...... I know your Mama didn't leave off that part
but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill
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"She would not know where her uncle landed"
I have to disagree with this statement, this is from a phone interview Marla gave.
She went on to explain that the reports of the jump had been misreported. The weather was bad on the night of November 24th but D.B. Cooper told the pilot at what speed, altitude and direction to fly. L.D. Cooper worked as a surveyor and knew this area very well. It has been reported that D.B. Cooper jumped over a very heavily wooded area when, in all actuality, he jumped over farmland and had planned his jump to put himself inside of a six mile area which was only seven miles from the home of L.D. Cooper. The parachute that was requested by D.B. Cooper was not steerable which would make his drop dependent solely on the wind to carry his direction.
LD was not a surveyor in 1971, this was later in his life! on another interview she clearly stated they had to go back into the woods and find the money?
same interview....
I asked Miss Cooper about Dan Cooper’s attitude. He was very polite and cordial to flight attendant Florence Shaffner to whom he passed the note and from whom he ordered his drinks. At no point during the hijacking was he ever loud, angry or aggressive toward the passengers or crew. Miss Cooper relayed to me that he had not been raised that way and it wasn’t in him to be that way towards other people. He was a nice, easy going guy who smiled a lot.
Marla made a different comment stating he was trying to commit suicide doing the hijacking, how does that fit a "easy going guy who smiled a lot" if he was trying to commit suicide, why would he have Dewey on the ground?
I see a charming woman telling a charming story, the problem is that the charming story is just that.....a story!
people are known to do strange things for money or attention! Knoss shows a similar pattern in which I believe he also seeks attention with his "story"
377 you should be able to see this with the remarks she made about the case being closed, shows once again more stretching of the "story"
I have to disagree with this statement, this is from a phone interview Marla gave.
She went on to explain that the reports of the jump had been misreported. The weather was bad on the night of November 24th but D.B. Cooper told the pilot at what speed, altitude and direction to fly. L.D. Cooper worked as a surveyor and knew this area very well. It has been reported that D.B. Cooper jumped over a very heavily wooded area when, in all actuality, he jumped over farmland and had planned his jump to put himself inside of a six mile area which was only seven miles from the home of L.D. Cooper. The parachute that was requested by D.B. Cooper was not steerable which would make his drop dependent solely on the wind to carry his direction.
LD was not a surveyor in 1971, this was later in his life! on another interview she clearly stated they had to go back into the woods and find the money?
same interview....
I asked Miss Cooper about Dan Cooper’s attitude. He was very polite and cordial to flight attendant Florence Shaffner to whom he passed the note and from whom he ordered his drinks. At no point during the hijacking was he ever loud, angry or aggressive toward the passengers or crew. Miss Cooper relayed to me that he had not been raised that way and it wasn’t in him to be that way towards other people. He was a nice, easy going guy who smiled a lot.
Marla made a different comment stating he was trying to commit suicide doing the hijacking, how does that fit a "easy going guy who smiled a lot" if he was trying to commit suicide, why would he have Dewey on the ground?
I see a charming woman telling a charming story, the problem is that the charming story is just that.....a story!
people are known to do strange things for money or attention! Knoss shows a similar pattern in which I believe he also seeks attention with his "story"
377 you should be able to see this with the remarks she made about the case being closed, shows once again more stretching of the "story"
"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI
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"Maybe it looks bad the a handful of people"
while I was checking into her story last year I found that statement to be false as well, lots of people made comments on You Tube, websites stating they didn't like the fact of her doing a book before any real conclusions were made! lots a of people didn't believe Cooper would only change his first name including myself.
I spoke with the gentleman from Strangehistory.org he kept telling me it was not Sisters she was talking about, LD lived in Sparks, Bend and North East California, those three places were in the flight path, but, they would have not had a problem looking for the money since these locations were hundred of miles away in some locations as to where they were looking for Cooper.
I can not say it enough, her story does not hold water any better than what Knoss is claiming! both show the same signs when confronted....lots of anger. nether one has shown any real proof, a strap and a picture is hardly proof of anything!
she claimed he landed on flat farmland, how in the world did he get all bloody and battered? because the FBI claimed he would probably be injured if he survived! most suspects to date keep stating there suspect was injured! if he beat the odds and made it, why does he have to be injured?
while I was checking into her story last year I found that statement to be false as well, lots of people made comments on You Tube, websites stating they didn't like the fact of her doing a book before any real conclusions were made! lots a of people didn't believe Cooper would only change his first name including myself.
I spoke with the gentleman from Strangehistory.org he kept telling me it was not Sisters she was talking about, LD lived in Sparks, Bend and North East California, those three places were in the flight path, but, they would have not had a problem looking for the money since these locations were hundred of miles away in some locations as to where they were looking for Cooper.
I can not say it enough, her story does not hold water any better than what Knoss is claiming! both show the same signs when confronted....lots of anger. nether one has shown any real proof, a strap and a picture is hardly proof of anything!
she claimed he landed on flat farmland, how in the world did he get all bloody and battered? because the FBI claimed he would probably be injured if he survived! most suspects to date keep stating there suspect was injured! if he beat the odds and made it, why does he have to be injured?
"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI
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QuoteExcerpts from email between Marla and AB of Seattle after her interview, and just before the interview was published at Newsvine:
... WHICH BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT!
How many of you are there. posting here under
ROBERTMBLEVINS ? Or should I say: Adventure
Books of Seattle? This could explain - everything!
Because, nobody can be up 24/7 posting on
internet websites and still doing house cleaning and
editing and research and cat cleaning and having
any personal time at all left for ... and posting on
the internet in several different styles & memories?
Who starts. Who follows up. Are you a fucking robot?
Its been brought up before by others.
That little event when you were banned of someone
else coming on (in your defense) ... Quade cut that
off quick and gave you an additional two weeks rest -
yes?
How many personalities and memories and personal
lives with networks and resources - can one person
have, this little consortium you keep advertising
here - "Excerpts from email between Marla and AB
of Seattle, after her interview, and just before the
interview was, published at Newsvine:
"Email between Marla and AB of Seattle" ??
"published at Newsvine" ??
And here I thought it was a Robert
Well fuck me! We've been dealing with a consortium
and no wonder the tall arrogance of all of you
people deceuiving us into believing just one person
was responsible for all this ....KAH KAH!
And you call me a Drama Queen ?
You folks mustbe sitting there laughing your asses
off at how easy it was to deceive a Moderator, a
forum full of people, etc etc etc etc.
Gray said "you" were untrustworthy.
So after two years of this bullshit let me be the first
to welcome AB OF SEATTLE to the Cooper thread on
Dropzone, posting under the name RobertMBlevins!
Wlecome to Dropzone, Captain Obvious.
Hey Moderator Quade!: How many people is
RobertMBlevins, and this is in the rules along with
trolling and taking over a thread? I think you have
been deceived, again!
No small wonder this character keeps saying:
"You've never met me"!
Well yes, I guess that's now true! HOW MANY ARE
YOU? HOW MANY ARE THERE OF YOU?
Is it Nedler? Neddler? We know about Gayla. Come
on Blevinses - you can tell us! All is fair in love and
"publishing". PUBLISHING IS THE WORD YOU USE!
Are you being paid to spam this forum?
In Internet Parlance, isnt it called "NICHE
MARKETING THROUGH THE BACK DOOR" ?
Come on, Captain Obvious, you can tell us!
We are your audience, your market, and your
victims.
Who a I addressing this is very moment?
Mr. Neddler? Gayla? some other guy? the spam
bot software program? the cleaning kid?
georger 244
QuoteGeorger says in part:
Quote'How many of you are there. posting here under
ROBERTMBLEVINS ?
Because, nobody can be up 24/7 posting on
internet websites and still doing house cleaning and
editing and research and cat cleaning and having
any personal time at all left for ... and posting on
the internet in several different styles & memories?
Who starts. Who follows up. Are you a fucking robot?
Its been brought up before by others.
That little event when you were banned of someone
else coming on (in your defense) ... Quade cut that
off quick and gave you an additional two weeks rest -yes?'
Who a I addressing this is very moment?
Mr. Neddler? Gayla? some other guy? the spam
bot software program? the cleaning kid?'
This comes to me from the guy with how many thousands of posts on this thread? Instead of going on and on and bad-mouthing nice people like Geoff Nelder and Gayla Prociv, you could have just asked me what you wanted to know.
LOL my style alone should tell you I'm the only one who posts here under my own name. How do I it? Well.... I only work maybe five hours a day helping run the housecleaning business, three to four days a week. The rest of the time I'm either out and about or up here in the office. Today I'm watching the Giants and the Browns. (Damn...Giants just picked off the Browns, too)
You just can't stand it that I pulled the covers on Marla, can you? Too bad. Let me clue you in on a Great Truth about the DZ Cooper thread Georger:
I'm not the ONLY one around here who gets their claims on the Cooper case questioned. And I'm a big believer in the concept that if you provide people enough rope when they are being deceptive, they will eventually find a tree and hang themselves with it.
I also believe you are still angry that I called you out on your phony quote by Geoff Gray. First you said Gray told you this, then you said you heard it from someone else. I can't even remember anymore who you attributed it to now. When you come to me with that type of BS, you have to expect I'm going to dispute it. So unless you are willing to make public an email from Gray where he confirms this, then you should stop quoting him.
The real problem is that your credibility is completely trashed now. Not because of the quote, but because you post up negative crap anytime something appears here with my name on it. It's consistent, which proves you have personal issues.
Sorry to bust your AB conspiracy theory. Yeah, it's only me who posts here. Actually, I think the Lennon/Fogerty Rickenbacker Conspiracy holds more water. At least there is some pictorial evidence.
Oh! That was quick! (leaves other issues
unanswered forever but is quick to respond to this!)
Must have hit a nerve.
Well, RobertMBlevins, or should I say "Adventure
Books of Seattle", I am a real person with a real life,
as opposed to you the committee -
so... I think I will go out and milk the goat and feed
the cows, and come back to your "quick reply" later.
Have a nice day - Adventure Books of Seattle.
You can turn your spam bot publishing machine with
no brain, off!
You are now a "disconnected number"
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Quote"She would not know where her uncle landed"
I have to disagree with this statement, this is from a phone interview Marla gave.
Maybe I'm not conveying this correctly.
Like anyone else with a story, there are things Marla knows and there are things she could not know.
Some of the things she says are speculation on her part. I don't believe she could know where the jumper landed. But, just because she says things she may not know does not mean everything she says is speculation.
Jo knows where Duane told her before he died.
Marla knows what she saw when she was 8 and what her father told her.
Blevins knows KC was unaccounted for at the time of the jump and had more money afterward.
Most everything else about the suspects is speculation.
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QuoteQuote"She would not know where her uncle landed"
I have to disagree with this statement, this is from a phone interview Marla gave.
Maybe I'm not conveying this correctly.
Like anyone else with a story, there are things Marla knows and there are things she could not know.
Some of the things she says are speculation on her part. I don't believe she could know where the jumper landed. But, just because she says things she may not know does not mean everything she says is speculation.
Jo knows where Duane told her before he died.
Marla knows what she saw when she was 8 and what her father told her.
Blevins knows KC was unaccounted for at the time of the jump and had more money afterward.
Most everything else about the suspects is speculation.
Can you name a single "fact" about Duane Weber, KC, Sailshaw's suspect, or Marla's uncle that connects them with D. B. Cooper? Everything about either of these four suspects being connected to Cooper is speculation or a complete fabrication.
Robert99
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I understand speculation, but she went way over that by stating where he landed, Marla has always been very confident that her uncle was the hijacker, I have yet to see any confirmed evidence pointing to this. her family has not backed anything she says, her mother only states "I always had a hunch" her brother who was there also tells a different story, I am leaning 99% that she is fabricating her story VS speculation IMO.
Personally I think she likes attention more than the money she thought she would get by doing this, sometimes the truth is harder to swallow, how much rope are we to give her in this "story" or when is time to finally say the story is not true? the public can be very giving and at the same time turn on you in a second, Marla found this out just a couple of months after going public.
we have one picture of LD around the age of DB and one picture of him much older, where are all of the memories she can remember so vivid? no family photo's nothing? I found a lot of problems with her story trying to make it work, it just does not add up,
even if you don't believe Jo, you can rest assure she has piles of files showing proof of her attempt, Marla had one little picture with the strap...nothing else, except, speculation! it's possible she is mixing up another story as some have claimed but I'm not buying that either.
I truly believe some of the evidence is still around be it in the woods or near the river or possibly in someone's attic waiting to be uncovered, I'm not that confident we have any idea who he really is...........
Personally I think she likes attention more than the money she thought she would get by doing this, sometimes the truth is harder to swallow, how much rope are we to give her in this "story" or when is time to finally say the story is not true? the public can be very giving and at the same time turn on you in a second, Marla found this out just a couple of months after going public.
we have one picture of LD around the age of DB and one picture of him much older, where are all of the memories she can remember so vivid? no family photo's nothing? I found a lot of problems with her story trying to make it work, it just does not add up,
even if you don't believe Jo, you can rest assure she has piles of files showing proof of her attempt, Marla had one little picture with the strap...nothing else, except, speculation! it's possible she is mixing up another story as some have claimed but I'm not buying that either.
I truly believe some of the evidence is still around be it in the woods or near the river or possibly in someone's attic waiting to be uncovered, I'm not that confident we have any idea who he really is...........
"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI
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QuoteRobert99 asks:
Quote'Can you name a single "fact" about Duane Weber, KC, Sailshaw's suspect, or Marla's uncle that connects them with D. B. Cooper?'
KC: Bernie Geestman tells a national television audience that yes...KC could be the hijacker. He fails to mention he was WITH KC for several days over the time of the hijacking. Above and beyond the witness testimony and the other evidence (mostly circumstantial) you have to wonder why would he say such a thing? Why didn't he say he KNEW KC wasn't the guy...because he was WITH him?
Blevins, As I remember it, you have repeatedly called Geestman a liar.
So how do you rate your answer above? Fact, speculation, fabrication, or all three?
Robert99
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QuoteQuoteQuoteRobert99 asks:
Quote'Can you name a single "fact" about Duane Weber, KC, Sailshaw's suspect, or Marla's uncle that connects them with D. B. Cooper?'
KC: Bernie Geestman tells a national television audience that yes...KC could be the hijacker. He fails to mention he was WITH KC for several days over the time of the hijacking. Above and beyond the witness testimony and the other evidence (mostly circumstantial) you have to wonder why would he say such a thing? Why didn't he say he KNEW KC wasn't the guy...because he was WITH him?
Blevins, As I remember it, you have repeatedly called Geestman a liar.
So how do you rate your answer above? Fact, speculation, fabrication, or all three?
Robert99
Fact: Geestman said that. Also a fact: Multiple witnesses who had not communicated with each other in many years put the two men together and missing. The best witness was Helen Jones, who also mentioned Kenny confirmed for her six weeks after the hijacking that the two men were together. Her daughter seconded this, saying yes...they were supposed to attend Thanksgiving dinner. Geestman's wife DID attend, and was highly pissed off. This was confirmed by Mrs. Geestman and Jones, as well as Jones' daughter. Jones and Geestman had not heard from each other for more than 15 years, yet both gave the same story.
Fact: Bernie Geestman has lied, but usually those lies were in an effort to distance himself from any possible involvement in Kenny's spending, or the hijacking. I don't think he was lying. Had he known that Jones and his ex-wife had put he and Kenny together over that week, it's certain he would not have said he thought KC could be the hijacker.
The Decoded cast and crew reported that Geestman was questioned for nearly three hours. He refused to answer where he was, the details on why he bought the trailer and wagon just before the hijacking, and virtually anything else. I think he finally just 'broke' a bit near the end and decided to try (again) to blame the hijacking on anyone else except HIM.
Blevins, Just exactly what in everything you have written above actually connects ANYONE to D. B. Cooper?
Robert99
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RobertMBlevins opines without downstream considerations:
“You might not agree with her, but why pick on a lady who is old enough to be almost anyone's mother on this thread?
Some of you think you know everything. Others, even though they are smarter than Benji the Dog, have no manners. That's one thing my mother taught me: Manners.”
Gee-whillakers RobertMBlevins, you sure are right about some things, that’s for sure. Elderly are to be respected and NEVER picked upon as they may be old enough to be a mother or even a grandmother or grandfather. We must remember this at all times when ever a person who is senior in years is being addressed. They are by nature, frail and frightened individuals, who only want to make others happy. It’s courageous, no I’m going to type it, HEROIC of you to take a stand and be a man for something, without regard for personal safety, reputation, monetary impact or any ridicule you may experience as a result, of what you so wisely typed less than one day past. I simply wish there was a better word to describe what you put in front of me to consider regarding social graces and conduct.
Yes RobertMBlevins your mother is also deserving of the same recognition of how well she taught you, for it makes me reflect on my own faulty moral and ethical foundation, which I feel can be better conveyed in another art form:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVaqZajq-I
Having…. Trouble…. Typing through a steady stream of tears…. The sun hurts my eyes…..
Won’t everyone join RobertMBlevins in celebrating and admiring those of advanced years and try, just try, not everyone is super human; to follow his long lived example? And if I may be so bold, would you mind saying a silent prayer for world peace also, thanks in advance.
“You might not agree with her, but why pick on a lady who is old enough to be almost anyone's mother on this thread?
Some of you think you know everything. Others, even though they are smarter than Benji the Dog, have no manners. That's one thing my mother taught me: Manners.”
Gee-whillakers RobertMBlevins, you sure are right about some things, that’s for sure. Elderly are to be respected and NEVER picked upon as they may be old enough to be a mother or even a grandmother or grandfather. We must remember this at all times when ever a person who is senior in years is being addressed. They are by nature, frail and frightened individuals, who only want to make others happy. It’s courageous, no I’m going to type it, HEROIC of you to take a stand and be a man for something, without regard for personal safety, reputation, monetary impact or any ridicule you may experience as a result, of what you so wisely typed less than one day past. I simply wish there was a better word to describe what you put in front of me to consider regarding social graces and conduct.
Yes RobertMBlevins your mother is also deserving of the same recognition of how well she taught you, for it makes me reflect on my own faulty moral and ethical foundation, which I feel can be better conveyed in another art form:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVaqZajq-I
Having…. Trouble…. Typing through a steady stream of tears…. The sun hurts my eyes…..
Won’t everyone join RobertMBlevins in celebrating and admiring those of advanced years and try, just try, not everyone is super human; to follow his long lived example? And if I may be so bold, would you mind saying a silent prayer for world peace also, thanks in advance.
QuoteJust ask yourself WHY Geestman would volunteer such a thing.
You, yourself, say Geestman is a liar He might volunteer KC as the shooter of Abraham Lincoln. Why would you believe anything he says?
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QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteRobert99 asks:
Quote'Can you name a single "fact" about Duane Weber, KC, Sailshaw's suspect, or Marla's uncle that connects them with D. B. Cooper?'
KC: Bernie Geestman tells a national television audience that yes...KC could be the hijacker. He fails to mention he was WITH KC for several days over the time of the hijacking. Above and beyond the witness testimony and the other evidence (mostly circumstantial) you have to wonder why would he say such a thing? Why didn't he say he KNEW KC wasn't the guy...because he was WITH him?
Blevins, As I remember it, you have repeatedly called Geestman a liar.
So how do you rate your answer above? Fact, speculation, fabrication, or all three?
Robert99
Fact: Geestman said that. Also a fact: Multiple witnesses who had not communicated with each other in many years put the two men together and missing. The best witness was Helen Jones, who also mentioned Kenny confirmed for her six weeks after the hijacking that the two men were together. Her daughter seconded this, saying yes...they were supposed to attend Thanksgiving dinner. Geestman's wife DID attend, and was highly pissed off. This was confirmed by Mrs. Geestman and Jones, as well as Jones' daughter. Jones and Geestman had not heard from each other for more than 15 years, yet both gave the same story.
Fact: Bernie Geestman has lied, but usually those lies were in an effort to distance himself from any possible involvement in Kenny's spending, or the hijacking. I don't think he was lying. Had he known that Jones and his ex-wife had put he and Kenny together over that week, it's certain he would not have said he thought KC could be the hijacker.
The Decoded cast and crew reported that Geestman was questioned for nearly three hours. He refused to answer where he was, the details on why he bought the trailer and wagon just before the hijacking, and virtually anything else. I think he finally just 'broke' a bit near the end and decided to try (again) to blame the hijacking on anyone else except HIM.
Blevins, Just exactly what in everything you have written above actually connects ANYONE to D. B. Cooper?
Robert99
I appreciate your question, but it's Sunday and I'm just not willing to go over the whole case against Christiansen again. Just ask yourself WHY Geestman would volunteer such a thing. You haven't believed any of the evidence or testimony from the start. Nothing I can say will change that, so let's just agree to disagree. I already know there are people who will never believe the testimony and the evidence. That's understandable. However, there are just as many who do. Until the Seattle FBI puts an end to it one way or another, the question on Christiansen is unsettled. No matter what you may have heard, they have never investigated him.
*Sees pretty blonde singing something about football and NBC*
Blevins, Let's assume for a minute that KC is still alive, that you accuse KC of being Cooper, that you cite Gesstman's behavior and remarks as being the basis of your claim, and that KC decides to sue you for slander.
Assuming that a court would accept the case, would Gesstman even be allowed to testify in the case in your behalf since he has made conflicting statements and even you have publicly called him a liar in an effort to support your own claims about KC?
And if KC's lawyer got you on the witness stand, he would eat you alive.
Robert99
georger 244
QuoteGeorger says in part:
Quote'How many of you are there. posting here under
ROBERTMBLEVINS ?
'
This comes to me from the guy with how many thousands of posts on this thread? Instead of going on and on and bad-mouthing nice people like Geoff Nelder and Gayla Prociv, you could have just asked me what you wanted to know.
LOL my style alone should tell you I'm the only one who posts here under my own name. How do I it? Well.... I only work maybe five hours a day helping run the housecleaning business, three to four days a week. The rest of the time I'm either out and about or up here in the office. Today I'm watching the Giants and the Browns. (Damn...Giants just picked off the Browns, too)
Let's parse just two of your "wall of ignorance and
shame" remarks above:
First, "How do I it? I'm either out and about ..." you
say. That's distinctly British grammer, is it not? I
didnt know you were British in the early morning
hours. I knew Adventire Book's Geoff Nelder and
Gayla Prociv were. Are you a trans ... or cross ....
overer, who has taken on a British accent and
grammer? Ive noticed this same affect in some of
your posts before, but just thought you must be
posting/visiting Liverpool ?
Now, you continually bring up/criticise and mock my
5428 posts here at Dropzone, claiming something is
wrong and a sign of my corruption and embecility vs.
your highly refined hi-quality 2236 posts. Its like
something one might here on Hannity, ie "Through
the lens of a Reactionary"!
Arent you just harrassing me and saying this for
affect, without anmy basis in fact for your claims?
Isnt that what trolls do?
Applying a little arith-ma-tik, it turns out YOU have
almost 3 posts per day in the mere two years you
have been here, while I have only 2.2 posts/day in
5 years I have been here!
3.1 versus 2.2 posts per day (Blevins vs. Georger).
Blevins has half the total posts I have and has only
been here a scant two years!
Moreover, Blevins makes no accounting for quality
of posts or words per post,or posts per day in a
period! Or repitiions of posts in one day... and fails
to provide any metrics from which to judge his
absurd statement(s). Blevins always leave out the
math vs just throwing claims around... !
So once again, RobertMBlevins turns out to be a -
transtruth teller.
Just do the math!
At the rate you are posting, Sir Blevins, you will have
upwards of 7500 to 8000 posts or more vs. my 5428
posts, in the same amountof time since I have been
here.
Blevins you belong on FOX with Hannity.
georger 244
QuoteGeorger says (somewhat edited for length):
Quote'First, "How do I it? I'm either out and about ..." you
say. That's distinctly British grammer, is it not? I
didnt know you were British in the early morning
hours. I knew Adventire Book's Geoff Nelder and
Gayla Prociv were. Are you a trans ... or cross ....
overer, who has taken on a British accent and
grammer? Ive noticed this same affect in some of
your posts before, but just thought you must be
posting/visiting Liverpool ?'
Gayla isn't a Brit. Neither am I. Although I have wished I WAS from Liverpool so I could have seen the Beatles at the Cavern Club. And your question (does anyone else use my DZ account to post) has been asked and answered. How about this: NO. Ever met a Brit with a name like Prociv? She's from California, LOL. Miss Vista 1978, since you're asking. (And yeah...it's cool to be hooked up with a former beauty queen even if she got that crown many years ago...)QuoteNow, you continually bring up/criticise and mock my 5428 posts here at Dropzone, claiming something is wrong and a sign of my corruption and embecility vs. your highly refined hi-quality 2236 posts. Its like something one might here on Hannity, ie "Through the lens of a Reactionary"!
Your possible corruption and imbecility are strictly your business.QuoteArent you just harrassing me and saying this for affect, without anmy basis in fact for your claims?
Isnt that what trolls do?
No one's harrassing you. If you've been called out occasionally, you probably deserved it.QuoteApplying a little arith-ma-tik, it turns out YOU have almost 3 posts per day in the mere two years you have been here, while I have only 2.2 posts/day in 5 years I have been here!
3.1 versus 2.2 posts per day (Blevins vs. Georger).
Blevins has half the total posts I have and has only
been here a scant two years!
Really? I wasn't keeping track. How long did you spend figuring that out? Did you use paper and pencil, or just your computer calculator. (*laughs*)QuoteMoreover, Blevins makes no accounting for quality of posts or words per post,or posts per day in a period! Or repitiions of posts in one day... and fails to provide any metrics from which to judge his
absurd statement(s). Blevins always leave out the
math vs just throwing claims around... !
I see you are no longer addressing me, but someone else with that. Couldn't really figure it out, so you should ask 'them'. I actually thought some of the posts I make are good. Especially anything with Creedence attached to it. Have you been drinking today by any chance? You don't have to answer that.QuoteSo once again, RobertMBlevins turns out to be a - transtruth teller.
Just do the math!
Blevins you belong on FOX with Hannity.
Hannity? Now that REALLY hurts. I've been a registered Dem my entire voting life. You should do stand-up. You are certainly funny sometimes.
At the rate you are posting, Sir Blevins, you will have
upwards of 7500 to 8000 posts or more vs. my 5428
posts, in the same amount of time since I have been here.
You must be the answer to Dropzone's dream to
close down this thread, by posting it into total
useless oblivion filled with your personal hate. Congrats!
Ending with your own 'comeback' post, of course.
Farflung 0
Does he get any dignity or peace in his twilight years? He so richly deserves this small courtesy since he is in his mid eighties. Does anyone care besides me?
I’m probably going to have a sleepless night after reviewing all this raw, naked and unprovoked savagery unloosed on a frail, kind and to be respected man. Well, at least we know what an invertebrate would probably type, if they had thumbs, and a neuromuscular system capable of such a task. But they don’t, so we’ll just have to settle for this painful parade, of hostile epithets, mercilessly lobbed at a person who may struggle with digesting tapioca, let alone his own ass handed to him on an electronic plate.
Bernie wasn’t abused by anyone’s hand, he was defiled by their being, which is inescapable. For the hours and hours that Bernie was kept in a sleazy, pay by the hour motel, which reeked of cheap booze and anonymous coitus, was he allowed to relieve himself? I notice that he is still wearing a jacket when he finally cracks, on that TV show masquerading as some sort of history program. I’m sure that if they kept him in there any longer than three hours, it may well have turned into some sort of ‘snuff’ flick. It was real nice of the crew to take Bernie to the restaurant in the parking lot after his inquisition. Did they even offer some time to nap in the motel before he began a several hours drive home? Cretins.
I’m probably going to have a sleepless night after reviewing all this raw, naked and unprovoked savagery unloosed on a frail, kind and to be respected man. Well, at least we know what an invertebrate would probably type, if they had thumbs, and a neuromuscular system capable of such a task. But they don’t, so we’ll just have to settle for this painful parade, of hostile epithets, mercilessly lobbed at a person who may struggle with digesting tapioca, let alone his own ass handed to him on an electronic plate.
Bernie wasn’t abused by anyone’s hand, he was defiled by their being, which is inescapable. For the hours and hours that Bernie was kept in a sleazy, pay by the hour motel, which reeked of cheap booze and anonymous coitus, was he allowed to relieve himself? I notice that he is still wearing a jacket when he finally cracks, on that TV show masquerading as some sort of history program. I’m sure that if they kept him in there any longer than three hours, it may well have turned into some sort of ‘snuff’ flick. It was real nice of the crew to take Bernie to the restaurant in the parking lot after his inquisition. Did they even offer some time to nap in the motel before he began a several hours drive home? Cretins.
You made a comment and this is my retort. If that makes me a mean old woman then so be it.
If you had fought the battle I have for 17 yrs you would be a mean SOB....also.
Note you sure didn't like my standing up to you! Some of the things you say about others aren't alway nice....
So back at you! How does if feel to be on the receiving end?
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