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QuoteJo, you are saying that in the early 1990s, while watching a video made in the late 1960s - 25 years earlier, Duane told you that it was safer to jump from the rear stairs than out a side door.
NO time or energy to go back and SEE if that is how I said it. After 1990 (because he had already started diaylsis) we were watching a program on TV.
Evidently it was some kind of Documentary.
When this clip came on - Duane NEVER said it was safer to jump from that EXIT - AND I HOPE I did NOT say it that WAY. YOU have a very distorted way of reading every post I make.
Perhaps you should pick up the phone and call me. I speak better than I write (on a good day). IT WAS MY OPINION that he would have THOUGHT if safer if that was WHAT he had been EXPOSED to and he WAS exposed to the BOEING.
He seemed anxious to view this program in the living room as he usually watched a smaller TV from the bedroom. He did tell me something at that time, but I do NOT remember what it was - the expression on his face I will NOT forget.
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If you READ the post I made THIS is WHAT IT SAID! PLEASE STOP TWISTING MY WORDS. if YOU are GOING to use MY words PLEASE COPY my post prior to YOUR opinion of what I said.
This IS EXACTLY what someone with an AGENDA does to discredit other posters - MAKING that poster sound LIKE a liar.
QUOTE: My post below on the subject you TWISTED:
"Perhaps - but, he wanted to jump from the aft stairs because he felt that was SAFER! Remember Cooper may have been in association with military pilots - and Weber was WELL AWARE the 727 could be jumped as 377 will tell you. For yrs I told these guys the plane was used during some exercises in the late 60's but NO one believed me until
SNOWMMAN found the very clip that Duane was watching when he made the statement. It was a specific thing and was aired during the yrs of 1990 to 1994 because I remembered were he was sitting when the clip was on a TV program. Again - Jo's memory is pretty DAMN good. Bet Snowmman could even find the date the clip was shown in a documentary of TV."
The above is what I said. I did NOT say Duane made that statement.
THOSE tactics are the kinds of TACTICS used by Detective cross-examining a suspect. TWIST the story to see if THEY can CROSS up the suspect and then RECORD those WORDS as the words USED by the suspect. THESE kind of interrogators are the worse kind and you ACT just like that!
READ my words
"SNOWMMAN found the very clip that Duane was watching when he made the statement"
Exactly what statement DO you think I was referring to - I was referring to his knowledge of the Boeing and the FACT he knew it could be jump from the BELLY and the fact that he told me about when the BOEING was introduced to the public....
I do not remember if this is when he told me about the paint and his family involvement - but could have been. The brother yrs later did NOT dispute this when he and I were talking.
This IS EXACTLY what someone with an AGENDA does to discredit other posters - MAKING that poster sound LIKE a liar.
QUOTE: My post below on the subject you TWISTED:
"Perhaps - but, he wanted to jump from the aft stairs because he felt that was SAFER! Remember Cooper may have been in association with military pilots - and Weber was WELL AWARE the 727 could be jumped as 377 will tell you. For yrs I told these guys the plane was used during some exercises in the late 60's but NO one believed me until
SNOWMMAN found the very clip that Duane was watching when he made the statement. It was a specific thing and was aired during the yrs of 1990 to 1994 because I remembered were he was sitting when the clip was on a TV program. Again - Jo's memory is pretty DAMN good. Bet Snowmman could even find the date the clip was shown in a documentary of TV."
The above is what I said. I did NOT say Duane made that statement.
THOSE tactics are the kinds of TACTICS used by Detective cross-examining a suspect. TWIST the story to see if THEY can CROSS up the suspect and then RECORD those WORDS as the words USED by the suspect. THESE kind of interrogators are the worse kind and you ACT just like that!
READ my words
"SNOWMMAN found the very clip that Duane was watching when he made the statement"
Exactly what statement DO you think I was referring to - I was referring to his knowledge of the Boeing and the FACT he knew it could be jump from the BELLY and the fact that he told me about when the BOEING was introduced to the public....
I do not remember if this is when he told me about the paint and his family involvement - but could have been. The brother yrs later did NOT dispute this when he and I were talking.
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that is true, but pretty close in my book, didn't Rataczak or Scott claim they couldn't see the city lights? I doubt they would lock him up after this long and given his age....
From Interviewer of Rat Interview No.3:
quote: "Rataczak says they didn’t really know their
exact location but he did see lights from his position
on the right which he later explained meant he ‘was
seeing either Portland or Vancouver coming into
view.’ That is where Agent Carr gets his quote, I
think. That is in the file notes."
NOTE that Rataczak states on his right and remember he was piloting the plane from the right side! In the co-pilots seat!
If he SAW the lights of Vancouver or Portland they were EAST of the SUPPOSE route at that time and this corresponds with WHAT he stated to ME on the PHONE many yrs ago!
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QuoteAnd does 377 know how Weber became "WELL AWARE" that the 727 could be jumped from the rear stairs?
And you claim that when Weber was passing all this information to you, he did not mention D.B. Cooper and all the 727 hijackings? How could he have failed to do that?
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Then around 1983 when we moved to Virginia - there was a mention of Cooper when he showed me where McCoy was killed.
When Norjack came out he did NOT mention Cooper. When he obtained the book I asked if I could read it after he finished - and I had asked him what it was about - he just said "Nothing you would be interested in just an old hijacking" I assume semi-trucks.
Later the book was in the office and I reminded him I wanted to read it. THEN it disappears and lo and behold he claims one of the guys in the office wanted to read it. I NEVER GOT to READ THAT BOOK - hell he could NOT allow me to read it - HE had to keep me ignorant...(IF I had read that book We would NOT be looking for Cooper today).
He was aware of what he had said in WA in 1979 and he was AWARE that I was aware of the money find in 1980 , but buriend in my memery (He knew I did NOT forget things).
Remember he made sure I DID not see the TV special I had planned to see in 1980 and we went OUT with some people I had never met on a week-day night...My discussion with the woman was to apologize for not being very good company because there was a program I wanted to see on TV (then as now I rarely watched TV because of my work). I had to book appts in the evenings on the phone from 5 PM until 8:30 PM.
He was afraid I would put it all together if I read the book and his vague mentions of Cooper.
After he made the decision to remove himself for the kidney machine - he tells me "I'm Dann Coooper" and I did know what the hell he was talking about - he had made sure I had little to NO exposure to D.B.Cooper information. Remember we lived in the SO and the anniversaries of the Jump were rarely mentioned.
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I really wish you would stop using me when you are posting to someone else!!"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI
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that is true, but pretty close in my book, didn't Rataczak or Scott claim they couldn't see the city lights? I doubt they would lock him up after this long and given his age....
From Interviewer of Rat Interview No.3:
quote: "Rataczak says they didn’t really know their
exact location but he did see lights from his position
on the right which he later explained meant he ‘was
seeing either Portland or Vancouver coming into
view.’ That is where Agent Carr gets his quote, I
think. That is in the file notes."
so basically it was broken clouds as I showed allowing some light to come through?
I would rather have it straight from Rataczak
himself. That's the bottom line for me. Either he
did or he didn't. And he wasn't alone in the cockpit.
Why this has become so 'unknown' is totally beyond
me, except perhaps that the crew thought Cooper
had already bailed, in which case we are talking
about an event (crossing the Columbia) which
happened further south and later in time, in which
case seeing the light of Vancouver-Portland might
not be a big deal - ? I just dont know - Im
speculating. But my quote from the interview is
real and documented (in hand in black and white
on paper, signed, sealed, and delivered).
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Questions?
There are a number of free online photo processing
websites - some will make layered transparencies,
merge two photos, etc. One is this:
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I really wish you would stop using me when you are posting to someone else!!
Mee too!
From Interviewer of Rat Interview No.3:
quote: "Rataczak says they didn’t really know their
exact location but he did see lights from his position
on the right which he later explained meant he ‘was
seeing either Portland or Vancouver coming into
view.’ That is where Agent Carr gets his quote, I
think. That is in the file notes."
so basically it was broken clouds as I showed allowing some light to come through?