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Far stranger than the Cooper case is when Jack Benny and Rod Serling did a comedy bit about Twilight Zone, on the old Jack Benny Program.

Too weird for words, but good.

Rod Serling was once asked the difference between sci-fi and fantasy.

He said, "Fantasy is the impossible made probable. Science fiction is the probable made possible...

"Just because you fail once doesn't mean you're gonna fail at everything..."

Marilyn Monroe
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Or the gullible made more gullibuley ...

or the maldum made more fornaxy ...

Yep;. Too wierd for words.

Play it again Jethro. Say whatever comes out of your
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"Not a chance in hell that they could see much detail IMO."

I agree, unless they had Binoculars which are common on ships?
I think it's possible they cut Morris out of the equation. never
trust a criminal

Morris had a IQ of 133 (Very superior range 99%ile)
the anglins had very little schooling but stuck together.
2 against one......

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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"Not a chance in hell that they could see much detail IMO."

I agree, unless they had Binoculars which are common on ships?
I think it's possible they cut Morris out of the equation. never
trust a criminal

Morris had a IQ of 133 (Very superior range 99%ile)
the anglins had very little schooling but stuck together.
2 against one......

Go to Wikipedia and search "Frank Morris (Prisoner)".

The escape was on June 11, 1962 and an FBI report is quoted as saying that "on July 17, 1962 a Norwegian ship spotted a body floating in the bay 20 miles northwest of the Golden Gate Bridge. Although they did not retrieve the body and did not report the sighting until October, they told the police the body was dressed in clothes that prisoners on Alcatraz used, and that the body resembled Frank Morris."

See the above article for more details about subsequent events.

Also, the above quote is apparently not the one I originally saw with the same general information.

Robert99

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"Not a chance in hell that they could see much detail IMO."

I agree, unless they had Binoculars which are common on ships?
I think it's possible they cut Morris out of the equation. never
trust a criminal

Morris had a IQ of 133 (Very superior range 99%ile)
the anglins had very little schooling but stuck together.
2 against one......

Go to Wikipedia and search "Frank Morris (Prisoner)".

The escape was on June 11, 1962 and an FBI report is quoted as saying that "on July 17, 1962 a Norwegian ship spotted a body floating in the bay 20 miles northwest of the Golden Gate Bridge. Although they did not retrieve the body and did not report the sighting until October, they told the police the body was dressed in clothes that prisoners on Alcatraz used, and that the body resembled Frank Morris."

See the above article for more details about subsequent events.

Also, the above quote is apparently not the one I originally saw with the same general information.

Robert99

I have seen the wiki comment, just threw me off when you said one of the anglins, I think it's possible they did Morris in before they left the Island, one body seen and then pieces found in the opposite direction in the area of Angel Island. based on the Marshal's evidence I believe there could be a possibility some of them could have made it, not saying they did,but, I guess it's no different than Cooper....based on these new findings. 30 days in the water, could you identify facial features?

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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The escape was on June 11, 1962 and an FBI report is quoted as saying that "on July 17, 1962 a Norwegian ship spotted a body floating in the bay 20 miles northwest of the Golden Gate Bridge. Although they did not retrieve the body and did not report the sighting until October, they told the police the body was dressed in clothes that prisoners on Alcatraz used, and that the body resembled Frank Morris."

Something's not right about this alleged incident. There is no bay traversed by ships that lies 20 miles NW of the GG Bridge. Saw a body in June and reported it in October???

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... they told the police the body was dressed in clothes that prisoners on Alcatraz used, and that the body resembled Frank Morris."

If they were 20 miles NW of the GG they were beyond the dredged ship channel and would have been going full speed which was at least 16 knots and likely much faster. No way, even with binocs, could you see enough detail to say the body resembled someone. If they saw a body, especially one in obvious prison garb, they would surely have reported it right away.

Drakes Bay is roughly NW of SF but in decades of commercial fishing I've never seen a ship in it. It's shallow and out of the transit routes for ships rounding Pt Reyes. See chart image attached. Shipping lanes are marked in purple.

377

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this is interesting: http://books.google.com/books?id=dw-4z4Cmb8MC&pg=PA91&lpg=PA91&dq=a+Norwegian+ship+spotted+a+body+floating+20+miles+past+the+Golden+Gate+bridge&source=bl&ots=jGaxBclFiP&sig=HpDa8tZ7Jm9q555HvxVlOyQePIc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=dPHEUOyEGIj68QScuoDQCQ&sqi=2&ved=0CEIQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=a%20Norwegian%20ship%20spotted%20a%20body%20floating%2020%20miles%20past%20the%20Golden%20Gate%20bridge&f=false

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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This conflict really escalated almost 30 years ago. In August 1983, a prairie fire swept over the entire battlefield, burning away 100 years of ungrazed grass and undergrowth. It revealed a treasure trove of artifacts and remains laying exposed on the charred surface. The National Park Service seized the opportunity to pursue archaeological examinations of the Little Bighorn. There were four of them - 1983, 1984, 1989 and 1994. They produced some results and theories which completely revised the traditional view of the battle.

even though the truth was coming out about the battle, the fire exposed the truth.

picture is of Custers scouts in 1903 revisiting

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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this is interesting: http://books.google.com/books?id=dw-4z4Cmb8MC&pg=PA91&lpg=PA91&dq=a+Norwegian+ship+spotted+a+body+floating+20+miles+past+the+Golden+Gate+bridge&source=bl&ots=jGaxBclFiP&sig=HpDa8tZ7Jm9q555HvxVlOyQePIc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=dPHEUOyEGIj68QScuoDQCQ&sqi=2&ved=0CEIQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=a%20Norwegian%20ship%20spotted%20a%20body%20floating%2020%20miles%20past%20the%20Golden%20Gate%20bridge&f=false

A ship in 1962 not having a radio? Baloney. Ships in 1962 all had radios and several types. When entering SF they would almost certainly have required a Bar Pilot. The Bar Pilot pickups outside the SF entrance are arranged by radio. It's illegal for ships to enter SF without one unless the Master is a certified SF Bar Pilot and I've never ever heard of a foreign ship captain having this ticket.

This ship story is so full of holes that I wonder if there is any useful info in it.

377

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it is a good photo, names are as follows: from left, Whiteman Runs Him, Hairy Moccasin, Curley and Goes Ahead. Curley
was said to have witnessed the battle.

377, I agree with your statements, seems that case also has it's fair share of speculation

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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I did check into that at one time.
Zona would have been 18-20 best I can guess. 9 yrs old last time Duane saw her.

The only time the name Zona was mentioned with an associate of Duane was with Ed.

1962 is when Duane was living as John Collins.

Ed Huran however it was spelled knew Duane from the past, but realized about 5 minutes into the conversation I knew nothing about Duane's back ground and just told me Duane would tell me when he was ready - but not to ever mention our conversation.

This is a pic of Ed taken in 1983 or 84. Blue eyes and scared face.
I never saw him with-out a shirt and jacket.

The only individual with whom the name Zona ever entered the conversation. Ed just told me Duane would tell me when he was ready.

I am going to attach 2 photos.
One of Ed and one of Anglin

There is a similarity in the chin and mouth - not many people hold their mouths like that. The ahape of the head is right.

The eyes are NOT. When I met Ed in 1978 he was sick and we had goneover so Duane could go get Ed's medication from the drug store. The last time I saw Ed was in Atlanta around 1984 - when I took the picture.
I commented I didn't remember his eyes being that blue. Perhaps he was wearing colored contacts.

The eyebrow eyelid area is different - but, someone escaping from Alcatraz would go to Mexico or S.A and get an eye job. My eyelids were done yrs go because of the droop and the surgeon wanted to raise the eyebrows - I just wanted the droop out - not to change my appearance.
I explored this YEARS ago and was quickly dissed, so I did NOT go there again. I am just revisiting the things I have explored and NO ONE seemed interested. The fact that Duane aske Ed about Zona and now to find out one of these guys had Zona tattooed and Duane fathered a child named Zona.

Pure co-incidence I am sure, but I never actually look at the pics of Anglin that closely. I found a lot of co-incidences in all of this and so I have re-visited it just for the sake of BORING you guys.

Attached: Photo of Ed
Photo of Anglin
I no longer have the capability of putting them side by side in one photo so if someone would do that I will appreciate it.

The shape of the face and the chin and mouth and head are dead on, but that is all. What I found interesting is they escaped in 1962 and Duane was living as John in 1962. This picture has me thinking a lot about those yrs from 1962 to 1966 and why Duane spent 16 months in prison as John. I always thought that ODD!.

The only picture I have of Tommy is in my head. I even searched the local papers after he disappeared (I assume died, but never found an OBIT). My memory is good but not good enough to remember a face from the past and compare it to a picture from the past. He sure was shook-up about Duane making the confession and he is the one who threatened me. He knew Duane only as John until 1980. Tommy's complexion was medium to dark and he had dark hair - well, with a little help or touch up.

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your not trying to say these two are one in the same? whats next, are you going to solve the Cooper case and Alcatraz along with JFK????????????

come on Jo glide back down to earth

John and Clarence Anglin would be 47 & 48 in 1978
1984 they would be in there early 50's.

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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I can not vouch for the authenticity of this but there is lots of good reading... FBI, Cook and DB Cooper

http://cryptome.org/2012-info/retired-seals-2/retired-seals-2.htm

Guru312

I am not DB Cooper

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I can not vouch for the authenticity of this but there is lots of good reading... FBI, Cook and DB Cooper

http://cryptome.org/2012-info/retired-seals-2/retired-seals-2.htm

should be simple to verify, is that really cooks email, I don't know?

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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your not trying to say these two are one in the same? whats next, are you going to solve the Cooper case and Alcatraz along with JFK????????????

come on Jo glide back down to earth

John and Clarence Anglin would be 47 & 48 in 1978
1984 they would be in there early 50's.

Referencing the brothers - did YOU even READ what the FRIGGIN HELL I wrote. I mention that Anglin was only 31 and Zona - Duane's daughter was maybe 18 to 20 - so NOW do YOU GET IT!

Familia features. NO ED could NOT have been one of the ANGLINS - WHAT I WAS TRYING TO TALK ABOUT WAS ALL OF THE ZONA CONNECTIONS.

I also just went back and re-read the post and it says NOTHING about Ed being one of the ESCAPED Anglins. I was pointing out the FAMILIA features and the connection to the name ZONA in three men.

EXCUSE ME FOR LIVING - I CAN'T SAY ONE WORD THAT YOU DO NOT TAKE OUT OF CONTEXT.

IF you cannot follow my ramblings then DO not make any replies or snide remarks - if you do NOT understand them - pm me and I will explain it in DETAIL. I FOUND NOTHING in the post indicating that Ed was one of the ESCAPED ANGLINS - but the connections to ZONA.

Just tracking Zona! The connection of ED to Zona and I have even stated perhaps co-incidence - but ZONA was NOT a common name and I HAVE another reason there is no reason to inform the LIKES of what this reason is - !!!

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"I am going to attach 2 photos.
One of Ed and one of Anglin

There is a similarity in the chin and mouth - not many people hold their mouths like that. The ahape of the head is right. "

what exactly is your intention to this description?

"IF you cannot follow my ramblings" then I must follow everyone's ramblings? rambling is not truth Jo!!

where is the mention of "I mention that Anglin was only 31"??

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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well, good for you, I guess, I still don't see the connection, but, one must try I guess. all I can say is this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-ZpHr5l0U0

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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"I am going to attach 2 photos.
One of Ed and one of Anglin

There is a similarity in the chin and mouth - not many people hold their mouths like that. The ahape of the head is right. "

what exactly is your intention to this description?

"IF you cannot follow my ramblings" then I must follow everyone's ramblings? rambling is not truth Jo!!

where is the mention of "I mention that Anglin was only 31"?? ok, sorry I see that now, but explain the rest?

I am only 10 yrs older than this Anglin brother! Therefore I am able to associate the age brackets. IT was NOT uncommon in "the day" of a 31 yr old to be married to a 16 yr old, and Zona was born sometime between 1943 and 1946...which was age appropriate for some one born in 1931 in those days.
Today if a 24 yr old dates a 18 yr old and have sex - look out! She is considered a juvenile and all she has to do is scream RAPE and the poor guy is labeled for the rest of his life. Todays 16 yr olds are very immature but also very promiscuous.

Most 24 yr olds men are NOT interest in 24 yr old females. Like the typical male thing - they like their women younger, but with the laws today - the 24 yr serving his country - can't date an age appropriate young lady

Duane had friends much younger than he was and such was with a man he introduced me to out of CO and in N.Orleans. His friend in GA was much younger.

I was playing with ways the same Zona could be connected with all 3 of them - only because Duane aske ED how Zona was doing. I did NOT at the time Duane's daughter was named ZONA. We had only been married for a few weeks when I met Ed in Denver.

NOW do you GET IT. Also ED was younger than Duane, but he was in poor health - I don't know how much younger. I was a 17 yrs younger than Duane and many of his friends were MY age.

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"I am going to attach 2 photos.
One of Ed and one of Anglin

There is a similarity in the chin and mouth - not many people hold their mouths like that. The ahape of the head is right. "

what exactly is your intention to this description?

"IF you cannot follow my ramblings" then I must follow everyone's ramblings? rambling is not truth Jo!!

where is the mention of "I mention that Anglin was only 31"?? ok, sorry I see that now, but explain the rest?

I am only 10 yrs older than this Anglin brother! Therefore I am able to associate the age brackets. IT was NOT uncommon in "the day" of a 31 yr old to be married to even a 16 yr old, and Zona was born sometime between 1943 and 1946...which was age appropriate for some one born in 1931 in those days.
Today if a 24 yr old dates a 18 yr old and they have sex - look out! All she has she is considered a juvenile is scream RAPE and the poor guy is labeld for the rest of his life.

Most 24 yr old are NOT interest in 24 yr old female. Like the typical male thing - they like their women younger, but with the laws today - the 24 yr serving his country - can't date an age appropriate young lady

Duane had friends much younger than he was and such was with a man he introduced me to out of CO and in N.Orleans. His friend in GA was much younger.

I was playing with ways the same Zona could be connected with all 3 of them - only because Duane aske ED how Zona was doing. I did NOT at the time know his daughters name was ZONA.

NOW do you GET IT. Also ED was younger than Duane, but he was in poor health - I don't know how much younger. I was a 17 yrs younger than Duane and many of his friends were MY age.

I retracted the reply of you stating 31, I'm still confused on how you assume everything revolves around Duane? please advise as to where you stated 31?.... Jo stated ".I mention that Anglin was only 31"??

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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"I am going to attach 2 photos.
One of Ed and one of Anglin

There is a similarity in the chin and mouth - not many people hold their mouths like that. The ahape of the head is right. "

what exactly is your intention to this description?

"IF you cannot follow my ramblings" then I must follow everyone's ramblings? rambling is not truth Jo!!

where is the mention of "I mention that Anglin was only 31"?? ok, sorry I see that now, but explain the rest?

I am only 10 yrs older than this Anglin brother! Therefore I am able to associate the age brackets. IT was NOT uncommon in "the day" of a 31 yr old to be married to even a 16 yr old, and Zona was born sometime between 1943 and 1946...which was age appropriate for some one born in 1931 in those days.
Today if a 24 yr old dates a 18 yr old and they have sex - look out! All she has she is considered a juvenile is scream RAPE and the poor guy is labeld for the rest of his life.

Most 24 yr old are NOT interest in 24 yr old female. Like the typical male thing - they like their women younger, but with the laws today - the 24 yr serving his country - can't date an age appropriate young lady

Duane had friends much younger than he was and such was with a man he introduced me to out of CO and in N.Orleans. His friend in GA was much younger.

I was playing with ways the same Zona could be connected with all 3 of them - only because Duane aske ED how Zona was doing. I did NOT at the time know his daughters name was ZONA.

NOW do you GET IT. Also ED was younger than Duane, but he was in poor health - I don't know how much younger. I was a 17 yrs younger than Duane and many of his friends were MY age.

I retracted the reply of you stating 31, I'm still confused on how you assume everything revolves around Duane? please advise as to where you stated 31?.... Jo stated ".I mention that Anglin was only 31"??

Last night I was having a lot of connection problems and I would make a post and it would NOT post. I would go back and my post would not be there - but, perhaps I should have CLARIFIED IT with that post.

I did state in a post that Anglin was only 31 - if it posted I know not and I stopped going back to check them. I assure you I was quiet well aware of the statment in the thread that he was 31 yrs of age.

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nothing personal, just seems far fetched to think you hold the key to this crazy case we call DB Cooper, many claim Marla is nuts, Jo is nuts, cook is nuts etc etc.......

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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Jo, your statement reads as follows: Referencing the brothers - did YOU even READ what the FRIGGIN HELL I wrote. I mention that Anglin was only 31 and Zona - Duane's daughter was maybe 18 to 20 - so NOW do YOU GET IT!

this was like an hour ago???
please advise? if I'm wrong, please show the post?

medication and connection problems could lead us to a Conspiracy theory wouldn't you say???

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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nothing personal, just seems far fetched to think you hold the key to this crazy case we call DB Cooper, many claim Marla is nuts, Jo is nuts, cook is nuts etc etc.......

You think I don't look at how the world looks at this - especially people who DO not know me?

Oh! That poor woman is delusional or crazy! She is a liar and fantasy story teller.

I will tell you WHY I keep on - because the things I tell are real and they are NOT made up. NO I am NOT delusional and I am NOT a liar. I have offered to prove this - but, the FBI does NOT want that to happen. Now it has been so many yrs it won't happen because the test would not be valid at this stage.

I created a problem for the FBI - they want to bury this, but NO one counted on my MEMORY being as vivid as it is. I spent over 5k to go to WA in 2010 (money I could ill afford to spend), but I had to make that trip hoping that I could WALK away, but the trip ONLY ENFORCED everything I had told and tried to tell the FBI and others.

Instead of coming home and being able to WALK away - it didn't happen. I learned that JT had DELIVERATELY lied to me about many important facts - things that put my life in TURMOIL for several yrs. From 1996 until I came back from the first trip (short and paid for by a TV company in 2001) and learned on the last day after the crew left that JT had deliberately mislea\d me and that alone left a huge QUESTION MARK!

He had NO idea I was continueing my search and he thought I had just gone away until he found out I was posting on this thread - THEN here he comes again with his horrid attacks on me - VERBAL attacks and threats which actually put me in the ER twice.

WHY did he attack a person on the phone and on a thread? I will leave the answers to that - to your own research into this. I contacted him after the 2001 trip and told him what I thought of him and had NO further contact until the day he found me on this thread - he went right back into attack and destory mode.

NO HUMAN BEING would continue on as I have done -unless they knew what they had to say was real. If I was delusional or actually out of my mind, do you think my family and friends would not have had me committed by now. BECAUSE anyone who knows me knows the story I have told I could NOT possibly have made up - that I actually lived this.

They WISH I would let it go and I have tried - but, it is just not fair that the truth be buried forever.
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Hell the more I say the crazier the world thinks I am.

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Jo, nobody is calling you a liar! your perception of truth comes into question by claiming the smallest fact/clue revolving around Duane! he was a criminal period, known to lie, deceive, things Duane did is not as "out of the norm" as one would think when speaking about his past! perhaps you are just so "in the dark" you fail to see the light, I just don't know. I don't have anything against you, but, I just don't see any reason for the theories you claim! how can all the others be wrong just because Duane told you? believe it or not, you are in that category you suppress !!

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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Jo, nobody is calling you a liar! your perception of truth comes into question by claiming the smallest fact/clue revolving around Duane! he was a criminal period, known to lie, deceive, things Duane did is not as "out of the norm" as one would think when speaking about his past! perhaps you are just so "in the dark" you fail to see the light, I just don't know. I don't have anything against you, but, I just don't see any reason for the theories you claim! how can all the others be wrong just because Duane told you? believe it or not, you are in that category you suppress !!

Definitely NOT in THE DARK Darling, I am quiet well aware of the fact that he was a thief and an excon and known to lie. With me it was lie by ommision and telling me about himself in the third party.

Believe me I am NOT in the DARK!

Yes I chase theories - why not?

If you think I am like Marla she hears something and then suddenly she she changes her story to match the infomation.

NO way! I have told most things over and over from the very beginning and I mean before I ever talked to a TV program or the media. If you are thinking the Zona thing is NEW - think again? IT is not - I questioned this many many yrs ago. I found it on my own tracking down things Duane had told me over the yrs of our marriage...and I have the files to prove it. 85% of this was prior to my ever having access to a computer.

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Jo, nobody is calling you a liar! your perception of truth comes into question by claiming the smallest fact/clue revolving around Duane! he was a criminal period, known to lie, deceive, things Duane did is not as "out of the norm" as one would think when speaking about his past! perhaps you are just so "in the dark" you fail to see the light, I just don't know. I don't have anything against you, but, I just don't see any reason for the theories you claim! how can all the others be wrong just because Duane told you? believe it or not, you are in that category you suppress !!

Go back and read the post Jerry made.

You don't see a reason because YOU don't know me and the theories are just that. The ZONA thing is not a theory - finding out the reason Ed and Duane talked about Zona needs to be known.
And Duane said something regarding the Alcatraz thing and WHY I had knowledge of this before you came up with it and someone else in the thread before you. Perhaps it was ONE of his con-man lies - but, remember I did not know he was a con. He couldn't tell me he met someone in a jail cell. He couldn't tell me individuals he introduced me to he had known from a prison.

The FBI does NOT see fit that the public know who ED was! Why because he was in the same category as Duane - whatever that category was.

If the FBI actually went to talk to Tommy - why NOT make it public? WHY hide the interview? They make everything public now why from me about the past and individuals who are now deceased. WHY? Because they never interviewed these individuals.

Finding ED was NOT secret. The FBI could have done it easy, but I was NOT allowed access to private employement information. Yet the FBI could have made his background and statement public with his permission or they could have provided him with my information so HE could explain who Zona was and what he knew about Duane.


BELIEVE ME - I am not in the category with the writers who do research and try to sell a story nor and I someone looking for attention and to twist my butt all over. I kept my visit to WA a secret - because I was looking for TRUTHS and trying TO find out if MY memories could be false as JT tried to convince me.

WELL, lo and behold I find out JT was the one with the stories- but WHY? WHY did his man go to such efforts to discredit me and make my life horrible? WHY?

NOW that one is a sad sad case and I really feel sorry for the guy but he has never cared about me or the truth....just how much he could badger someone and be heard.

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