DB Cooper

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mrshutter45

Flares caught my eye. if the bomb was made of flares he was probably playing around with them prior to the crime?

I hope not...he could put his eye out...

Sorry the Christmas Story marathon is running on an ignored tv. I couldn't help myself.

Some folks are quite convinced that the "bomb" was flares - but I don't think anyone can be sure of that.
Himmelsbach or someone based this on the "fact" that dynamite wouldn't be red, but we've disproved that "fact" on this thread courtesy of the wonderful world wide web. Dynamite, we found, is produced in various colors.

but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill

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Kind of off the subject but I read an article recently, an interview with Earl Milne, who was head of the Seattle office. thought i would share.
We always hear that the FBI didn't think he made it - but not according to this article. Milne thought DB got away with it and cited the following as why (Daily Chronicle May 5, 1976):

1. A Boeing 727, which Cooper commandeered, is one of the safest planes to jump from.

2. The area over which Cooper jumped, between Woodland and Vancouver, features wide open spaces, ideal for parachute landings.

3. A 20 mph wind was blowing that night at 7,500 feet but no wind was blowing at ground level and visibility was excellent.

Still, how did Cooper get away from the scene once he had landed? Milnes said he didn't know, but added, "It wouldn't be very difficult (for Cooper) to just go home and go to bed."

but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill

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smokin99

***Flares caught my eye. if the bomb was made of flares he was probably playing around with them prior to the crime?

I hope not...he could put his eye out...

Sorry the Christmas Story marathon is running on an ignored tv. I couldn't help myself.

Some folks are quite convinced that the "bomb" was flares - but I don't think anyone can be sure of that.
Himmelsbach or someone based this on the "fact" that dynamite wouldn't be red, but we've disproved that "fact" on this thread courtesy of the wonderful world wide web. Dynamite, we found, is produced in various colors.


I base the bomb being fake with the 70's & not today's standards. even McCoy's grenade was a fake. since this had no Political reasons it gives me more of a percentage of the bluff thingy. much different thoughts back then. today, they shoot and ask questions later.

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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mrshutter45

******Flares caught my eye. if the bomb was made of flares he was probably playing around with them prior to the crime?

I hope not...he could put his eye out...

Sorry the Christmas Story marathon is running on an ignored tv. I couldn't help myself.

Some folks are quite convinced that the "bomb" was flares - but I don't think anyone can be sure of that.
Himmelsbach or someone based this on the "fact" that dynamite wouldn't be red, but we've disproved that "fact" on this thread courtesy of the wonderful world wide web. Dynamite, we found, is produced in various colors.


I base the bomb being fake with the 70's & not today's standards. even McCoy's grenade was a fake. since this had no Political reasons it gives me more of a percentage of the bluff thingy. much different thoughts back then. today, they shoot and ask questions later.

Yes and it also fits in better with the vision of DB Cooper being a gentleman bandit. But it's just a guess.

Though I'm not sure it really matters after the fact if it was a fake or not if the people on the plane think that some ahole has a bomb and is threatening to blow them up at 10,000 in the air.

but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill

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I agree. also forgot they described it as red. most dynamite is brown.....

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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smokin99

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I keep trying to eliminate this guy and I can't.. the circumstantial keeps getting stronger... though I haven't determined whether he did or did not smoke.. That might eliminate him..

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A noticeable foreign accent might also eliminate him.

yes, he was ignored for year because I couldn't determine an accent, I couldn't even establish english, but I discovered that he came from a multilingual region, then I obtained copies of his handwriting separately in English and French.. I don't know about an accent, he is now dead... and the region he is from is known for non accent english,, (multilingual)

it is definitely something to pursue.. I am trying

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RobertMBlevins

***Executives at the Travel Channel wish to correct the
RobertMBlevins false information post on Dropzone:

re- the January 5th episode of "AMERICA DECLASSIFIED" will be a new, previously unseen episode about the Tena Bar money find. It will feature new people and a new science team put together to examine the Tena Bar - Cooper money find in 1980, and related matters. .

It is regrettable that Mr. Blevins assertion about this being a
re-run was posted on Dropzone. Mr. Blevins assertions are
wrong! Mr. Blevins should confirm facts before he posts false
assertions and information, which is his habit to do at Dropzone
and elsewhere.

Thank you.

Will you take a chill pill or something? TV guide listed a DB Cooper episode that ran in November for that show. Turns out it was not about the Tina Bar Soiree, but JT's 25-year search.

In the words of Steve Martin:

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"Well, excuuuuuuuse meeeee!"

Fine, I'll watch the Tina Bar show in January. Did you guys figure out how the money got there? All of a sudden you are all over that episode like white on rice, and probably will promote it as The Salvation of the Universe, when in reality it is certainly just another review of the SOS on the money...that no one can say for sure when exactly, or how the money got there. Now TV shows on Cooper are suddenly your friend? Right.

You talked enough shit about Decoded to fill an outhouse right up to the toilet seat...and those investigators actually have legit backgrounds related to the show, i.e. engineer, former prosecutor and JAG, and a very respected, multi-published professor of English at WSU.

Give me a break. I'd say more, but it's Christmas and all.

And speaking of Christmas, I've attached a couple of pictures.
I have the episode of DECLASSIFIED for January 5 set to record. It does show as a new episode, but the description doesn't say anything about DB Cooper. I guess we'll find out.

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FLYJACK

My thought was to show Bill the blended image first, then the older one of my suspect if it was a possible match.. if anyone has an email for Bill PM me and I'll send it to him..

and I realize that a match to the sketch alone is a small piece of the "circumstantial" puzzle..

EXCUSE ME! You are someone in off the street who has NOT shown the thread a picture of your suspect much less the FBI and you want to show it to Bill.

If this thread exchanges contact information on witnesses it is time to END the thread! If witnesses are approached by someone off the street the way Bruce Smith did Tina and her brother-in-law and her family in the East - TIME to END THIS THREAD and QUADE has my blessings on this - which I will discuss in the very near future.

EXCUSE ME! When the general public can go around showing witnesses pictures of a candidate never investigated by the FBI - SOMETHING IS very WRONG WITH THE SYSTEM!

You FLYJACK cannot even produce a picture of your subject and Cooper did NOT speak with a foreign accent. You are someone pretending to have a suspect - and you are on a FISHING expedition. Introducing NEW evidence does NOT mean taking OLD evidence and redeveloping it to fit whatever book you are writing.

I think I should start to post some old emails sent to me by a person known as BULLJAX and then the thread will start to see the similarities in your posting style and his posting style. If you are BULLJAX you used up a lot of my time with your crap - now you have EVOLVED. Your story evolves just like his.

I went thru this with you for 9 months plus outside of the thread.
I believe you stated you are out of the states - I am sure QUADE could verify this one way or another. What say Quade - in or out of the states? Is this man misrepresenting himself?

As for presenting a suspect to Bill, if you do without going to the FBI you better have a DAMN good reason. I will say this for Vickie she went about it the right way - first trying to get the attention of the FBI then trying to find a way to get the FBI to view it. That didn't happen so she appealed to others to help.

REMEMBER this Weber was a suspect and the witness had already seen pictures of him. D0 you think you really want to approach him with a suspect you have NOT EVEN DISCUSSED with the FBI. Me thinks this is an invasion of privacy and perhaps the FBI needs to be aware of YOU and the things YOU are stating on this thread....perhaps your first stop should have been to contact the FBI.

Allow one person due to compassion and the gate way to hell opens up with the WANNABEs!

SHOW the thread a REAL picture of your suspect with a viable name the thread can investigate. This has been done with other suspects!

The last thing this thread needs to do is chase a creation - and a man with no name and no face!

Where was you suspect in Nov of 1971? What is his name, height, eye color? What kind of work did he do? YOU HAVE a long way to go Bulljax or Flyjack - which ever you wish to be called.

You didn't even know that The Bridge of the GODs was not on the map for the Cooper flight and then when you find that you jump to other location or just change directions...that is what Bulljax did...YEA you entertained me for a few months. Your story built on quips and bullshit and a deck of cards fell!

He started with theories and he NEVER put a face or a name to his Cooper other than to say it was Duane Weber until I could NO longer contain my suspicions. Then all of his "PROOF" just vanished...Poof! He had solved the case but was NOT going to do anything for 2 yrs - because the man who told him the story asked him to wait 2yrs.

His last email said "An NOW I KNOW!"

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

[FLYJACK 711]

skyjack71

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My thought was to show Bill the blended image first, then the older one of my suspect if it was a possible match.. if anyone has an email for Bill PM me and I'll send it to him..

and I realize that a match to the sketch alone is a small piece of the "circumstantial" puzzle..

EXCUSE ME! You are someone in off the street who has NOT shown the thread a picture of your suspect much less the FBI and you want to show it to Bill.

If this thread exchanges contact information on witnesses it is time to END the thread! If witnesses are approached by someone off the street the way Bruce Smith did Tina and her brother-in-law and her family in the East - TIME to END THIS THREAD and QUADE has my blessings on this - which I will discuss in the very near future.

EXCUSE ME! When the general public can go around showing witnesses pictures of a candidate never investigated by the FBI - SOMETHING IS very WRONG WITH THE SYSTEM!

You FLYJACK cannot even produce a picture of your subject and Cooper did NOT speak with a foreign accent. You are someone pretending to have a suspect - and you are on a FISHING expedition. Introducing NEW evidence does NOT mean taking OLD evidence and redeveloping it to fit whatever book you are writing.

I think I should start to post some old emails sent to me by a person known as BULLJAX and then the thread will start to see the similarities in your posting style and his posting style. If you are BULLJAX you used up a lot of my time with your crap - now you have EVOLVED. Your story evolves just like his.

I went thru this with you for 9 months plus outside of the thread.
I believe you stated you are out of the states - I am sure QUADE could verify this one way or another. What say Quade - in or out of the states? Is this man misrepresenting himself?

As for presenting a suspect to Bill, if you do without going to the FBI you better have a DAMN good reason. I will say this for Vickie she went about it the right way - first trying to get the attention of the FBI then trying to find a way to get the FBI to view it. That didn't happen so she appealed to others to help.

REMEMBER this Weber was a suspect and the witness had already seen pictures of him. D0 you think you really want to approach him with a suspect you have NOT EVEN DISCUSSED with the FBI. Me thinks this is an invasion of privacy and perhaps the FBI needs to be aware of YOU and the things YOU are stating on this thread....perhaps your first stop should have been to contact the FBI.

Allow one person due to compassion and the gate way to hell opens up with the WANNABEs!

SHOW the thread a REAL picture of your suspect with a viable name the thread can investigate. This has been done with other suspects!

The last thing this thread needs to do is chase a creation - and a man with no name and no face!

Where was you suspect in Nov of 1971? What is his name, height, eye color? What kind of work did he do? YOU HAVE a long way to go Bulljax or Flyjack - which ever you wish to be called.

You didn't even know that The Bridge of the GODs was not on the map for the Cooper flight and then when you find that you jump to other location or just change directions...that is what Bulljax did...YEA you entertained me for a few months. Your story built on quips and bullshit and a deck of cards fell!

He started with theories and he NEVER put a face or a name to his Cooper other than to say it was Duane Weber until I could NO longer contain my suspicions. Then all of his "PROOF" just vanished...Poof! He had solved the case but was NOT going to do anything for 2 yrs - because the man who told him the story asked him to wait 2yrs.

His last email said "An NOW I KNOW!"

Stop trying to discredit me with your juvenile straw man fallacies.. it is very clear that you are trying to protect your theory and suspect.. and you are lying to do it. You should be kicked out of this thread.

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Jo, Quade can't do anything that happens outside this thread. it doesn't matter who contacts who.

the proper thing to do is to find out whether a suspect can be presented to the FBI. you shouldn't go to them first with a half baked plan. if Flyjack wishes to try and contact any known witnesses, that is there freedom, or right. I'll admit Flyjack is a little secretive with the evidence he/she has, but again that is also there right. if someone is writing a book on Cooper. I doubt you will be able to stop that either.

when was the last time you really had a discussion with the FBI? what gives you the right to tell someone what they can or can not do when it comes to the FBI? I don't see anything that says you have to come here first before contacting the FBI? why would you go to the FBI before contacting a witness? if the information is available I would take that avenue prior to contacting the FBI. personally I wouldn't key them in unless I was 95+ percent sure I had Cooper. I would make sure all my documents were correct and sources checked prior to calling anything fact.

why should Flyjack even go to the FBI? according to you they cover things up and withhold information, so why go to them first? you are extremely far to personal and one sided in all of this if you ask me.....just my opinion of course.

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

[FLYJACK 711]

RobertMBlevins

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I keep trying to eliminate this guy and I can't.. the circumstantial keeps getting stronger... though I haven't determined whether he did or did not smoke.. That might eliminate him..

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A noticeable foreign accent might also eliminate him.

yes, he was ignored for year because I couldn't determine an accent, I couldn't even establish english, but I discovered that he came from a multilingual region, then I obtained copies of his handwriting separately in English and French.. I don't know about an accent, he is now dead... and the region he is from is known for non accent english,, (multilingual)

it is definitely something to pursue.. I am trying

Family members and friends should be explored. Just saying. This is where certain internet services come in REAL handy to make a list of people who should be contacted. Not by me...but YOU perhaps. What you can do is to use Genealogy.com or another service to find out every possible thing you can on your suspect. Then when you contact people, make sure to ask if this person had any friends, and what were their names. Then you can move on from there with your investigation. One thing you could probably find out reletively quickly is whether your suspect was a smoker. Another might be their situation, i.e. where they were living, working, etc the year of the hijacking.

Contrary to popular opinion, although I believe Kenny Christiansen is a viable suspect, he's still just a suspect. And that means I fully support any reasonable exploration into other people as possibly being Cooper.


I have tried to pin down more info for a couple years, but can't, he is dead and too much time has passed, so the only way to eliminate is fingerprints and possible DNA.

AND I can prove that my suspect read/possessed the Cooper comic... back then..

Coincidence,, maybe,, interesting, yes..

after studying the steel truss bridge picture, the suspicious image drawn on it appears to be dynamite and a fuse (squiggly line)

[FLYJACK 711]

mrshutter45

Jo, Quade can't do anything that happens outside this thread. it doesn't matter who contacts who.

the proper thing to do is to find out whether a suspect can be presented to the FBI. you shouldn't go to them first with a half baked plan. if Flyjack wishes to try and contact any known witnesses, that is there freedom, or right. I'll admit Flyjack is a little secretive with the evidence he/she has, but again that is also there right. if someone is writing a book on Cooper. I doubt you will be able to stop that either.

when was the last time you really had a discussion with the FBI? what gives you the right to tell someone what they can or can not do when it comes to the FBI? I don't see anything that says you have to come here first before contacting the FBI? why would you go to the FBI before contacting a witness? if the information is available I would take that avenue prior to contacting the FBI. personally I wouldn't key them in unless I was 95+ percent sure I had Cooper. I would make sure all my documents were correct and sources checked prior to calling anything fact.

why should Flyjack even go to the FBI? according to you they cover things up and withhold information, so why go to them first? you are extremely far to personal and one sided in all of this if you ask me.....just my opinion of course.

My suspect/theory is too early to go to the FBI, further I am NOT in the US, nor American citizen and NOT under the jurisdiction of the FBI..

Remember. I am trying to eliminate this guy.. and I don't think exposing his identity here will help due to the fact that he is a foreigner, dead and the case is so cold.

The only thing that I could go to the FBI with is the document with fingerprints and possible DNA,, and I don't have that yet. I am secretive so that the document doesn't get scooped before I can get it.. believe me I want to tell you guys to help vetting, well most of you.

Bill Mitchells audio described that turkey neck and non swarthy, my suspect has a turkey neck and is NOT swarthy... so I thought I'd show him the blend and if it was a positive/possible then show the suspect picture,, (though it is older),, In the blend gif that I created you can isolate any feature and it lines up perfectly, doesn't move, eyes jawline, mouth eyebrows, nose, head shape.. all positioned perfectly.. maybe a coincidence but it is freaky..


Also Kayes site,,

Fact: The majority of the particles analyzed contained varying amounts of Chlorine, Potassium, and Silicon along with Sulfur, Calcium and Titanium.
Fact: The SLICE database indicates that Chlorine, Potassium and Silicon are common to most book match heads.
Interpretation: The majority of particles on the tie are from match heads.
Further interpretation: The tie's owner was a smoker that used book matches to light his cigarettes in keeping with witness testimony.
Fact: Particles pulled from the stained areas had the same elemental signatures as the the other match particles.
Interpretation: The stains on the tie were caused by match heads hot enough to transfer material to the fibers.

"varying amounts of Chlorine, Potassium, and Silicon along with Sulfur, Calcium and Titanium" could be from a match head without the titanium, but also from something else....with titanium

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AND I can prove that my suspect read/possessed the Cooper comic... back then..

That would be so cool if the real DBC had gleaned the idea for the crime from this comic. Snowmman, who I believe first surfaced the comics issue, would be pursued by the press if they could ever figure out who he is. Carol "Abracadabra" would be a guest on late night shows. Her symposium presentation on the comics was just superb.

How would you prove your suspect had read Dan Cooper comics?


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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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AND I can prove that my suspect read/possessed the Cooper comic... back then..

That would be so cool if the real DBC had gleaned the idea for the crime from this comic. Snowmman, who I believe first surfaced the comics issue, would be pursued by the press if they could ever figure out who he is. Carol "Abracadabra" would be a guest on late night shows. Her symposium presentation on the comics was just superb.

How would you prove your suspect had read Dan Cooper comics?


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I can't really say yet but it is 100% provable.. he READ, POSSESSED and was OBSESSED with the comic.

It may be just a bunch of coincidences,,,

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Isn't it ironic that Jo, who explicitly and repeatedly accuses the FBI of lying and covering up, would insist that Flyjack check in with them before contacting any witnesses?

I see I'm not the only one who saw the irony.

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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"would be pursued by the press if they could ever figure out who he is"

have you seen what is profile pic now says...."Bob Knoss is my father" lol

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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I can't really say yet but it is 100% provable.. he READ, POSSESSED and was OBSESSED with the comic.

Now you've got my interest. But why hold back so much info? You and Jo practice the art of the tease. You could give plenty of details on your evidence without revealing your suspect's ID.

What do you have that matches the tie metals found by Tom Kaye?
Cooper comics won't put any suspect on the plane but metal matches might.

I still want radios . Did your suspect have walkie talkies by chance?

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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mrshutter45

"would be pursued by the press if they could ever figure out who he is"

have you seen what is profile pic now says...."Bob Knoss is my father" lol

LOL. Nope. I missed that.

I wish Quade would let him back on. Our CA governor, in the spirit of Christmas, just pardoned a bunch of ex felons who served their time. Snow has served his time Quade. His offenses are no worse than people you've re admitted to the forum.

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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AND I can prove that my suspect read/possessed the Cooper comic... back then..

That would be so cool if the real DBC had gleaned the idea for the crime from this comic. Snowmman, who I believe first surfaced the comics issue, would be pursued by the press if they could ever figure out who he is. Carol "Abracadabra" would be a guest on late night shows. Her symposium presentation on the comics was just superb.

How would you prove your suspect had read Dan Cooper comics?


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Not trying to take anything away from anyone, but ...a reference to the comic in relation to the hijacking first surfaced in a Portland Oregon newspaper editorial in 1982. Would attach but it's on another computer - but I've posted the article on here before.

Now whether the FBI ran with the connection then is anyone's guess. They didn't publicize it if they did.
I'm pretty sure that I also saw the connection on another website before it was posted on dropzone but the connection did not appear as a "FBI sponsored official" theory until after Carr was on dropzone and it was posted by snowmman.
The forces just had to align.

but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill

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I can't really say yet but it is 100% provable.. he READ, POSSESSED and was OBSESSED with the comic.

Now you've got my interest. But why hold back so much info? You and Jo practice the art of the tease. You could give plenty of details on your evidence without revealing your suspect's ID.

What do you have that matches the tie metals found by Tom Kaye?
Cooper comics won't put any suspect on the plane but metal matches might.

I still want radios . Did your suspect have walkie talkies by chance?

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No radios that I know of..

The only way to advance my suspect (put him on the plane) is to get that personal document with fingerprints and possible DNA,, THAT is why I am being secretive, I need to get possession of that document before somebody else, the FBI have no jurisdiction to obtain that document outside the US, it is solely a private endeavour,. I apologize for being vague at this early stage.

Both the "Silicon, titanium and alumina powder" AND "The Club Moss spore Lycopodium clavatumis" IS found together in something else (not a pill) and my "foreign" suspect was heavily exposed to it.. and he ALWAYS wore a tie.

He was ALSO exposed to bismuth, red and amber particles, zinc and silicon,, all found on the tie..

This is what I have, it is early and maybe a bunch of coincidences,,,

WHAT DO YOU THINK >>>


My "suspect",,
NOT US citizen re "negotiable American currency"
Aviation experience/knowledge/interest , though not an expert
World traveller
Occupation likely took him to visit Boeing/Military aviation facilities
WW2 experience in Europe
The particles found on the tie are a match YES a match to his environment while wearing a tie
Age, mid to late 40's in 1971
I used Adobe software to transition an obtained photo of suspect at about age 65 with the Cooper sketch, it is an amazing match. The position of eyes, jawline, ears, forehead, hairline, everything lines up EXACTLY..
His hair is a bit odd looking, natural but may be mistaken as a toupee
Always wore a tie
"Dan Cooper", has proven exposure to the name, but it is not his name
He read and possessed the comic. PROVEN
Meek, polite and effeminate...
NOT swarthy, odd hair and had a turkey neck, matches Bill Mitchells description.. (radio interview)
Found picture evidence that he may have been at a steel truss bridge..

Do not know if he was a smoker,, Raleigh's perhaps from WW2 military exposure..
Do not know if he had an accent,, he wrote in both french and english and was from a multilingual region
I can't place him in the area at the time. I was trying to identify the steel truss bridge picture.
He is now dead..

So, any suggestions on how to proceed,,, interesting suspect or just a series of coincidences. Should I just drop it...

or get that original document

AND see if Bill Mitchell recognizes a photo I have.. (older)

I sat on this for two years thinking it couldn't be the guy.. I had just assumed the "hijacker" had died,, but now I think it is is more likely he did survive.

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Stop trying to discredit me with your juvenile straw man fallacies.. it is very clear that you are trying to protect your theory and suspect.. and you are lying to do it. You should be kicked out of this thread.

Ok, folks NOW I KNOW! Precisely what did I say in my post that was inappropriate. Bulljax - do you want me to expose the name you gave me and your posing as this family man who claimed to be a strong Christian?

Since I was being very nice - in letting you & the thread know I had figured you out - then you MAKE the same expression that Bulljax did - STRAW MAN FALLACIES! I have done zero to get kicked off the thread - I am more tolerant than many. I do call the cards when I see and hear something VERY inappropiate.

You came to the thread - not asking but demanding information to contact individuals that you should contact through the FBI.

How can U accuse me of being a straw man. YOUR posting show that you are the one building a HOUSE of straw. Then when you feel threatened you get angry.


Folks I believe this to be the same man I had to CONTACT the FBI about when Cossey was killed.
He got volitale when I would NOT provide him with priveleged information and I do NOT hear from him for several days - THEN Cossey came up dead. I thougth it just a robbery gone wrong or a co-incident and my being paranoid!

As all of you know later they decided it was NOT robbery.

In the days that followed there was some unusual activity in my very small & private neighborhood that was making me a little nervous.
I contacted the local law department - and instructed to contact the FBI - WHICH I did!

Supposedly this man found out I contacted the FBI (so he told me) & that they had questioned him - but in another town...not where he lived. I never received verification of this from the FBI regarding this.

The man waits a while then continues his conversations with me & reporting all of his mysterious trips to WA. Since he lives in the midwest I could not understand taking off from work to roam around WA for 2 days. Nothing was coming down that made sense. His story made no sense and he was making it up as he went.

His story evolved from an 8 yr old meeting someone at Ape Cave to a full blown relationship and claiming he is meeting with men from WA. Claiming contacts out of N.Y., Seattle and Or. Claimed a box delivered to him near his home....I do have a picture of the BOX, but it was easy for someone in his area to produce and an old supposed safe deposite box with Lawrence, KS on it.

This man had all sorts of Mafia types contacting him - is sounded like as story right out an old movie.

Such as the statement made by FLYJACK saying I should be KICKED out of the thread - this was mild compared to the other things I was told and the flares of temper that were scary. When confronted the other man got very agitated, just as FLYJACK does!

The personality profle indicates this is the same man building another house out of straw since the other one fell apart and yet he challenges a 18 yr veteran that she is the straw builder. I had a name and a background. This man has produce ZERO - yet I am the straw man!

He is DEMANDING I be kicked out of the thread - just for challenging him to produce some kind of proof regarding his subject. He can't because the subject doesn't exist.

He led me on a 10 month chase!
Now he is going to make fools out of everyone else. What or Why he is doing this - only he knows. If he has something concrete and is not the man who was contacting me - then he needs to start to produce and stop feeding you guys just enough for you to provide him with more of the ammo he needs for his story.

Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

[Robert99 50]

FLYJACK

[FLYJACK responding to a Jo Weber post]

Stop trying to discredit me with your juvenile straw man fallacies.. it is very clear that you are trying to protect your theory and suspect.. and you are lying to do it. You should be kicked out of this thread.

FLYJACK/BULLJAX/WHOEVER,

You have certainly got Jo Weber pegged correctly.

Congratulations!

Robert99

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Isn't it ironic that Jo, who explicitly and repeatedly accuses the FBI of lying and covering up, would insist that Flyjack check in with them before contacting any witnesses?

I see I'm not the only one who saw the irony.

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Absolutely NO irony involved. Read my last post:

FLYJACK said I should be banned from the thread, because his little game was exposed!
I am telling U the man was VOLITAL on the phone and in his communications with me and this man on the thread SOUNDS just like him. Takes a little piece of what someone says and then FABRICATES as story around it. I was being nice until he ATTACKED me. My suggestions were logical, but like the other party who called himself BULLJAX - he goes ballistic and get angry. You guys put up with what you wish - but with what is in the process of being turned over to the FBI - ONE subject will be investigated more than he has been in the past.

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I have posted a picture, a still from a transition blend between 100% "DB Cooper" suspect sketch and 100% my suspect at an older age. All facial features match up EXACTLY... and my suspect has that turkey neck Bill Mitchell described.. he also said that the hijacker never removed his sunglasses.. was NOT swarthy,,
Here are two pics, I darkened the glasses in one to match the Mitchell description, otherwise the images are just overlaid. Maybe he can look at it. This is my suspect...

This is just my opinion, but the only problem with having someone look at blended pictures is just about every candidate ends up looking like the composite when you blend. Someone has shown this at some point along the way.

Just curious, but why not just show him privately the picture of the guy without superimposing it over the composite drawing? If he would be willing to look at it, he seems like a person who would be discreet. Just from what I've read, he's pretty low key about all of this.

Doing Ghostings and overlays would confuse a witness - to do so causes a psycological connection. If the FBI did that - a lot of innocent people would go to jail....to show such a composition of a suspect over laided onto a picture of another suspect - NOT a GOOD THING!

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FLYJACK

Do not know if he had an accent,, he wrote in both french and english and was from a multilingual region


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And one could be from another country and not have an accent.....

Using Canada as an example.....I just looked at a list of famous Canadians - many of whom you would never know are not American born and bred without knowing their bios.

but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill