GreyCopGC148 0 #45601 January 3, 2014 Quote RobertMBlevins ***'keep in mind that Rataczak also`told the FBI that Cooper jumped 10-15 minutes after the last contact with Cooper at 8;05. all of these perfect people have not so perfect answers.....that puts Cooper out of the search area....' From the sled test, and what Harold Anderson saw on the control panels, I would say the exact point when Cooper jumped was when the indicator light for the airstairs flashed off for a moment, (stairs relieved of weight, springing up and nearly closing) and then the light comes back on for good. (stairs settle to neutral position in flight) This incident is identical in both the sled test and on the actual flight of 305. 'Five to ten minutes' is a LOT. Five minutes means approximately fifteen miles through the air. If you toss in a two-mile wide path for the dropzone, well that creates a minimum search area of thirty square miles. Make it ten minutes (30 miles) than you have have a search area of sixty square miles. Coop Quote er could have built a house out there and just walked out the next spring without being discovered. You would need tens of thousands of searchers to do sixty square miles over wooded terrain to even have a hope of fiinding anything. I have seen nothing yet that would put the flight five to six miles WEST of the Interstate 5 freeway north of Vancouver. Which is what it would have to do to overfly Tina Bar. I think the flight map is VALID. The question mainly is where along that line Cooper jumped, and that is definitely open to debate. The only way to know is to know the exact minute the indicator light did its little off and on dance. Rataczak told Skipp Porteous he kept research on the Cooper hijacking. If someone ever interviews Rataczak again, I would try to pin him down on that point. When did the light go off and then back ON. When did this happen? EDIT: There is ONE problem I do have with the map. And that is the added time plots. Some of them, as Robert99 has pointed out, don't jive with the number of miles the aircraft traveled between those points. In other words, the plane would have to be slowing down and speeding up for some of them to work. But I think the line itself is good. You want to find if there is any remaining evidence of Cooper out there? Here's one way. Take 2,000 searchers and spread them about ten feet apart on a three-to-four-mile-wide path starting at the south end of the line, but north of Vancouver. Have them take a big-ass hike about forty miles north, following the flight map line. Tell them to look up into the trees occasionally, just in case. The plane was over the Lewis river west of Arial dam . The Capt. Said he could see the lights off the dam that night. The plane was not over the lakes. This put cooper a little south of La Center WA close to the lower Lewis river the west fork My nook is hard to post from sorry DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert99 50 #45602 January 3, 2014 RobertMBlevinsQuote'Poor Blevins in his post above is so wrong - I know what you guys are looking for and it there WAS no copy of un-redacted information made. What the man said was that evidently with a change of command at N.W. or by employees that they just destroyed these old files/or recordings not realizing an un-redacted version had never been made available...' You could be right. But what is the item in the attached photo? Blevins, The roll of paper in your attachment is NOT a radio log or transcript. Instead, it is from the ARINC teletypewriter and you can read on it some of the items that were also discussed in the radio transcripts while the airliner was on the ground in Seattle. ARINC apparently had the same type of teletypewriters in their networks that the Associated Press and United Press International used in the news reporting business in the same general time frame. Robert99 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 245 #45603 January 3, 2014 RobertMBlevins Quote 'keep in mind that Rataczak also`told the FBI that Cooper jumped 10-15 minutes after the last contact with Cooper at 8;05. all of these perfect people have not so perfect answers.....that puts Cooper out of the search area....' From the sled test, and what Harold Anderson saw on the control panels, I would say the exact point when Cooper jumped was when the indicator light for the airstairs flashed off for a moment, (stairs relieved of weight, springing up and nearly closing) and then the light comes back on for good. (stairs settle to neutral position in flight) This incident is identical in both the sled test and on the actual flight of 305. 'Five to ten minutes' is a LOT. Five minutes means approximately fifteen miles through the air. If you toss in a two-mile wide path for the dropzone, well that creates a minimum search area of thirty square miles. Make it ten minutes (30 miles) than you have have a search area of sixty square miles. Cooper could have built a house out there and just walked out the next spring without being discovered. You would need tens of thousands of searchers to do sixty square miles over wooded terrain to even have a hope of fiinding anything. I have seen nothing yet that would put the flight five to six miles WEST of the Interstate 5 freeway north of Vancouver. Which is what it would have to do to overfly Tina Bar. I think the flight map is VALID. The question mainly is where along that line Cooper jumped, and that is definitely open to debate. The only way to know is to know the exact minute the indicator light did its little off and on dance. Rataczak told Skipp Porteous he kept research on the Cooper hijacking. If someone ever interviews Rataczak again, I would try to pin him down on that point. When did the light go off and then back ON. When did this happen? EDIT: There is ONE problem I do have with the map. And that is the added time plots. Some of them, as Robert99 has pointed out, don't jive with the number of miles the aircraft traveled between those points. In other words, the plane would have to be slowing down and speeding up for some of them to work. But I think the line itself is good. You want to find if there is any remaining evidence of Cooper out there? Here's one way. Take 2,000 searchers and spread them about ten feet apart on a three-to-four-mile-wide path starting at the south end of the line, but north of Vancouver. Have them take a big-ass hike about forty miles north, following the flight map line. Tell them to look up into the trees occasionally, just in case. gee Blevgins - you have recited known posted material purdy well almost - "Tell them to look up into the trees occasionally, just in case." Just in case what? (A) Just in case R99 forgot something? (B) Just in case Sluggo forgot something? (C) Just in case Nelder forgot something? (D) Just in case you get a day job? (E) Poachers are limited in what they can remember and script. (F) Ronda Rousey hasn't returned his calls. (G) all of the above ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyCopGC148 0 #45604 January 3, 2014 Quote georger ******'keep in mind that Rataczak also`told the FBI that Cooper jumped 10-15 minutes after the last contact with Cooper at 8;05. all of these perfect people have not so perfect answers.....that puts Cooper out of the search area....' From the sled test, and what Harold Anderson saw on the control panels, I would say the exact point when Cooper jumped was when the indicator light for the airstairs flashed off for a moment, (stairs relieved of weight, springing up and nearly closing) and then the light comes back on for good. (stairs settle to neutral position in flight) This incident is identical in both the sled test and on the actual flight of 305. 'Five to ten minutes' is a LOT. Five minutes means approximately fifteen miles through the air. If you toss in a two-mile wide path for the dropzone, well that creates a minimum search area of thirty square miles. Make it ten minutes (30 miles) than you have have a search area of sixty square miles. Cooper could have built a house out there and just walked out the next spring without being discovered. You would need tens of thousands of searchers to do sixty square miles over wooded terrain to even have a hope of fiinding anything. I have seen nothing yet that would put the flight five to six miles WEST of the Interstate 5 freeway north of Vancouver. Which is what it would have to do to overfly Tina Bar. I think the flight map is VALID. The question mainly is where along that line Cooper jumped, and that is definitely open to debate. The only way to know is to know the exact minute the indicator light did its little off and on dance. Rataczak told Skipp Porteous he kept research on the Cooper hijacking. If someone ever interviews Rataczak again, I would try to pin him down on that point. When did the light go off and then back ON. When did this happen? EDIT: There is ONE problem I do have with the map. And that is the added time plots. Some of them, as Robert99 has pointed out, don't jive with the number of miles the aircraft traveled between those points. In other words, the plane would have to be slowing down and speeding up for some of them to work. But I think the line itself is good. You want to find if there is any remaining evidence of Cooper out there? Here's one way. Take 2,000 searchers and spread them about ten feet apart on a three-to-four-mile-wide path starting at the south end of the line, but north of Vancouver. Have them take a big-ass hike about forty miles north, following the flight map line. Tell them to look up into the trees occasionally, just in case. gee Blevgins - you have recited known posted material purdy well almost - "Tell them to look up into the trees occasionally, just in case." Just in case what? (A) Just in case R99 forgot something? (B) Just in case Sluggo forgot something? (C) Just in case Nelder forgot something? (D) Just in case you get a day job? (E) Poachers are limited in what they can remember and script. (F) all of the above ...[/quote Just in briefcase DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert99 50 #45605 January 3, 2014 georger *** Quote 'keep in mind that Rataczak also`told the FBI that Cooper jumped 10-15 minutes after the last contact with Cooper at 8;05. all of these perfect people have not so perfect answers.....that puts Cooper out of the search area....' From the sled test, and what Harold Anderson saw on the control panels, I would say the exact point when Cooper jumped was when the indicator light for the airstairs flashed off for a moment, (stairs relieved of weight, springing up and nearly closing) and then the light comes back on for good. (stairs settle to neutral position in flight) This incident is identical in both the sled test and on the actual flight of 305. 'Five to ten minutes' is a LOT. Five minutes means approximately fifteen miles through the air. If you toss in a two-mile wide path for the dropzone, well that creates a minimum search area of thirty square miles. Make it ten minutes (30 miles) than you have have a search area of sixty square miles. Cooper could have built a house out there and just walked out the next spring without being discovered. You would need tens of thousands of searchers to do sixty square miles over wooded terrain to even have a hope of fiinding anything. I have seen nothing yet that would put the flight five to six miles WEST of the Interstate 5 freeway north of Vancouver. Which is what it would have to do to overfly Tina Bar. I think the flight map is VALID. The question mainly is where along that line Cooper jumped, and that is definitely open to debate. The only way to know is to know the exact minute the indicator light did its little off and on dance. Rataczak told Skipp Porteous he kept research on the Cooper hijacking. If someone ever interviews Rataczak again, I would try to pin him down on that point. When did the light go off and then back ON. When did this happen? EDIT: There is ONE problem I do have with the map. And that is the added time plots. Some of them, as Robert99 has pointed out, don't jive with the number of miles the aircraft traveled between those points. In other words, the plane would have to be slowing down and speeding up for some of them to work. But I think the line itself is good. You want to find if there is any remaining evidence of Cooper out there? Here's one way. Take 2,000 searchers and spread them about ten feet apart on a three-to-four-mile-wide path starting at the south end of the line, but north of Vancouver. Have them take a big-ass hike about forty miles north, following the flight map line. Tell them to look up into the trees occasionally, just in case. gee Blevgins - you have recited known posted material purdy well almost - "Tell them to look up into the trees occasionally, just in case." Just in case what? (A) Just in case R99 forgot something? (B) Just in case Sluggo forgot something? (C) Just in case Nelder forgot something? (D) Just in case you get a day job? (E) Poachers are limited in what they can remember and script. (F) all of the above ... Blevins has ALL the answers and has plenty of advice on what other people should do. Unfortunately, he doesn't have any answers for the problems with his own KC book. Blevins would be doing this list a great service if he could manage to keep his mouth shut for a while. He does not have any knowledge of what is going on in the Cooper matter. Robert99 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyCopGC148 0 #45606 January 3, 2014 quadeQuoteHave the indictment of Dan Cooper pulled so he can come in from the cold. And how would the judicial system deal with the flood of people that would simply claim to have been DB Cooper in order to become rich or go down in history? How would they deal with the delusional ones living out a fantasy life that might actually think they are DB Cooper? Money DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrshutter45 21 #45607 January 3, 2014 here is some homework for you Robert.... show any proof Kenny spent anything over $500 cash from 1972-1975. not Bob, or Steve said so either. proof required. explain how some of your witnesses seem to think he paid cash for everything without backing the story up. proof required explain why someone would claim an arrest for attempted murder and no record of that charge on file. proof required. explain to us when Kenny purchased the lots behind the Safeway, and when he sold them. proof required. explain how you have plenty to say and do here, but can't manage your own site full of error's. which you said you would fix weeks ago? any reason why Kenny would have trouble opening the stairs? what happened to the real estate person? Kenny should have pictures of the stamp collection for insurance, no pics, receipt, anything proving this? or is it more talk and less proof thingy going on like all the other stories?"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyCopGC148 0 #45608 January 3, 2014 RobertMBlevins Robert99 says in part: Quote 'Blevins has ALL the answers and has plenty of advice on what other people should do. Unfortunately, he doesn't have any answers for the problems with his own KC book. Blevins would be doing this list a great service if he could manage to keep his mouth shut for a while. He does not have any knowledge of what is going on in the Cooper matter...' Oh...you mean AWAY from Dropzone. Let me clue you in. There are Facebook pages (restricted mostly these days due to Knoss-type posters), articles occasionally, threads galore all over the place. I don't care what goes on in those places unless I happen to take an interest. So if you have something going elsewhere, that's great and I wish you the best of luck. However...you keep claiming HERE that the flight path is wrong and you try to explain the Tina Bar money by saying 305 must have overflown Tina Bar. And that is going to be tough to prove. It is YOU, not I, who claims to be smarter and more accurate than Paul Soderlind and his team at NWA, the ATC, a couple of chase jets, radar, and the friggin' FBI. So I guess the burden of proof about that falls to you, wouldn't you say? It's funny how you always bring up 'the book' in these situations. As if Blast has anything to do with the flight path. It's mostly a series of interviews with witnesses, not a historical record of the hijacking and the investigation which followed. You want that? See Himmelsbach's book. Meanwhile, unless you come up with something substantial and provable about it, I continue to believe the map is accurate. This isn't about Kenny Christiansen and whether he was Cooper. I don't know if he was. But you are saying the FBI and those other entities I mentioned are wrong, the search was wrong, and YOU are right. That's a pretty large claim. Georger asks: 'Just in case what...' (look up into the trees just in case on a massive ground search) In case Cooper got hung up in one, LOL. What else? KC died in 94 so he can not be in a tree DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyCopGC148 0 #45609 January 3, 2014 mrshutter45here is some homework for you Robert.... show any proof Kenny spent anything over $500 cash from 1971-1975. not Bob, or Steve said so either. proof required. explain how some of your witnesses seem to think he paid cash for everything without backing the story up. proof required explain why someone would claim an arrest for attempted murder and no record of that charge on file. proof required. explain to us when Kenny purchased the lots behind the Safeway, and when he sold them. proof required. explain how you have plenty to say and do here, but can't manage your own site full of error's. which you said you would fix weeks ago? any reason why Kenny would have trouble opening the stairs? what happened to the real estate person? Kenny should have pictures of the stamp collection for insurance, no pics, receipt, anything proving this? or is it more talk and less proof thingy going on like all the other stories? This would not matter any way befor after what's the difference It I buy a car and steal the gold after and pay it off I still payed for it with the gold or it I steal the gold and pay for it later and your point DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyCopGC148 0 #45610 January 3, 2014 GreyCopGC148***here is some homework for you Robert.... show any proof Kenny spent anything over $500 cash from 1971-1975. not Bob, or Steve said so either. proof required. explain how some of your witnesses seem to think he paid cash for everything without backing the story up. proof required explain why someone would claim an arrest for attempted murder and no record of that charge on file. proof required. explain to us when Kenny purchased the lots behind the Safeway, and when he sold them. proof required. explain how you have plenty to say and do here, but can't manage your own site full of error's. which you said you would fix weeks ago? any reason why Kenny would have trouble opening the stairs? what happened to the real estate person? Kenny should have pictures of the stamp collection for insurance, no pics, receipt, anything proving this? or is it more talk and less proof thingy going on like all the other stories? This would not matter any way befor after what's the difference It I buy a car and steal the gold after and pay it off I still payed for it with the gold or if I steal the gold and pay for it later and your point Paople that go to jail for a crime but are not charged have no recored This happens all the time DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyCopGC148 0 #45611 January 3, 2014 RobertMBlevins***here is some homework for you Robert.... show any proof Kenny spent anything over $500 cash from 1972-1975. not Bob, or Steve said so either. proof required. explain how some of your witnesses seem to think he paid cash for everything without backing the story up. proof required explain why someone would claim an arrest for attempted murder and no record of that charge on file. proof required. explain to us when Kenny purchased the lots behind the Safeway, and when he sold them. proof required. explain how you have plenty to say and do here, but can't manage your own site full of error's. which you said you would fix weeks ago? any reason why Kenny would have trouble opening the stairs? what happened to the real estate person? Kenny should have pictures of the stamp collection for insurance, no pics, receipt, anything proving this? or is it more talk and less proof thingy going on like all the other stories? Sorry...you are getting into research being collected for Cooperland. I said a couple of months ago that I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website. You'll just have to wait like everyone else. Then...you can jump all over the book if you wish. In the meantime, I have no problem with your belief he wasn't Cooper. You are entitled to that, and since at present I can't prove absolutely that he was, I have no further comment on it. My next book DB COOPER vs THE GRAY COP will be so complete All new the 23 years it took the investigation not the story of DB Cooper But the case it self more for the drop zoner more of the 70s to 1979 the real case all the meetings with the FBI MC COY and Kenneth the planting of the money Should be done by Feb 20 th I can do it in 15 hours DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 245 #45612 January 3, 2014 RobertMBlevins Robert99 says in part: Quote 'Blevins has ALL the answers and has plenty of advice on what other people should do. Unfortunately, he doesn't have any answers for the problems with his own KC book. Blevins would be doing this list a great service if he could manage to keep his mouth shut for a while. He does not have any knowledge of what is going on in the Cooper matter...' Oh...you mean AWAY from Dropzone. Let me clue you in. There are Facebook pages (restricted mostly these days due to Knoss-type posters), articles occasionally, threads galore all over the place. I don't care what goes on in those places unless I happen to take an interest. So if you have something going elsewhere, that's great and I wish you the best of luck. However...you keep claiming HERE that the flight path is wrong and you try to explain the Tina Bar money by saying 305 must have overflown Tina Bar. And that is going to be tough to prove. It is YOU, not I, who claims to be smarter and more accurate than Paul Soderlind and his team at NWA, the ATC, a couple of chase jets, radar, and the friggin' FBI. So I guess the burden of proof about that falls to you, wouldn't you say? It's funny how you always bring up 'the book' in these situations. As if Blast has anything to do with the flight path. It's mostly a series of interviews with witnesses, not a historical record of the hijacking and the investigation which followed. You want that? See Himmelsbach's book. Meanwhile, unless you come up with something substantial and provable about it, I continue to believe the map is accurate. This isn't about Kenny Christiansen and whether he was Cooper. I don't know if he was. But you are saying the FBI and those other entities I mentioned are wrong, the search was wrong, and YOU are right. That's a pretty large claim. Georger asks: 'Just in case what...' (look up into the trees just in case on a massive ground search) In case Cooper got hung up in one, LOL. What else? DuHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH - I tink dey tot a dat! ???? I'm glad you're doing all of this for your own benefit - therapy perhaps? Because you sure as hell aren't doing it for the benefit of anyone else ... on this planet that is! A book on Cooperland by RobertMBlevins. Why not do a book on "Blue Fairy" - something you know something about people might pay attention to! Keep treading water. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyCopGC148 0 #45613 January 3, 2014 GreyCopGC148******here is some homework for you Robert.... show any proof Kenny spent anything over $500 cash from 1972-1975. not Bob, or Steve said so either. proof required. explain how some of your witnesses seem to think he paid cash for everything without backing the story up. proof required explain why someone would claim an arrest for attempted murder and no record of that charge on file. proof required. explain to us when Kenny purchased the lots behind the Safeway, and when he sold them. proof required. explain how you have plenty to say and do here, but can't manage your own site full of error's. which you said you would fix weeks ago? any reason why Kenny would have trouble opening the stairs? what happened to the real estate person? Kenny should have pictures of the stamp collection for insurance, no pics, receipt, anything proving this? or is it more talk and less proof thingy going on like all the other stories? Sorry...you are getting into research being collected for Cooperland. I said a couple of months ago that I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website. You'll just have to wait like everyone else. Then...you can jump all over the book if you wish. In the meantime, I have no problem with your belief he wasn't Cooper. You are entitled to that, and since at present I can't prove absolutely that he was, I have no further comment on it. My next book DB COOPER vs THE GRAY COP will be so complete All new the 23 years it took the investigation not the story of DB Cooper But the case it self more for the drop zoner more of the 70s to 1979 the real case all the meetings with the FBI MC COY and Kenneth the planting of the money Should be done by Feb 20 th I can do it in 15 hours On sale soon DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyCopGC148 0 #45614 January 3, 2014 GreyCopGC148******here is some homework for you Robert.... show any proof Kenny spent anything over $500 cash from 1972-1975. not Bob, or Steve said so either. proof required. explain how some of your witnesses seem to think he paid cash for everything without backing the story up. proof required explain why someone would claim an arrest for attempted murder and no record of that charge on file. proof required. explain to us when Kenny purchased the lots behind the Safeway, and when he sold them. proof required. explain how you have plenty to say and do here, but can't manage your own site full of error's. which you said you would fix weeks ago? any reason why Kenny would have trouble opening the stairs? what happened to the real estate person? Kenny should have pictures of the stamp collection for insurance, no pics, receipt, anything proving this? or is it more talk and less proof thingy going on like all the other stories? Sorry...you are getting into research being collected for Cooperland. I said a couple of months ago that I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website. You'll just have to wait like everyone else. Then...you can jump all over the book if you wish. In the meantime, I have no problem with your belief he wasn't Cooper. You are entitled to that, and since at present I can't prove absolutely that he was, I have no further comment on it. My next book DB COOPER vs THE GRAY COP will be so complete All new the 23 years it took the investigation not the story of DB Cooper But the case it self more for the drop zoner more of the 70s to 1979 the real case all the meetings with the FBI MC COY and Kenneth the planting of the money Should be done by Feb 20 th I can do it in 15 hours On sale soon ondamandbooks Then JFK Osswaled vs the Gray Cop DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 245 #45615 January 3, 2014 RobertMBlevins ***here is some homework for you Robert.... show any proof Kenny spent anything over $500 cash from 1972-1975. not Bob, or Steve said so either. proof required. explain how some of your witnesses seem to think he paid cash for everything without backing the story up. proof required explain why someone would claim an arrest for attempted murder and no record of that charge on file. proof required. explain to us when Kenny purchased the lots behind the Safeway, and when he sold them. proof required. explain how you have plenty to say and do here, but can't manage your own site full of error's. which you said you would fix weeks ago? any reason why Kenny would have trouble opening the stairs? what happened to the real estate person? Kenny should have pictures of the stamp collection for insurance, no pics, receipt, anything proving this? or is it more talk and less proof thingy going on like all the other stories? Sorry...you are getting into research being collected for Cooperland. I said a couple of months ago that I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website. If I had any public trust with this thread remaining, it disappeared when some current users here were traced to filthy-ass comments about both me and Gayla (who cares zip about Cooper) on outside articles. Trust is GONE, and whether you like it or not, that's the way it is. You'll just have to wait like everyone else. Then...you can jump all over the book if you wish. In the meantime, I have no problem with your belief he wasn't Cooper. You are entitled to that, and since at present I can't prove absolutely that he was, I have no further comment on it. send in the clown(s) and website stalker(s) "I have no further comment on it." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyCopGC148 0 #45616 January 3, 2014 GreyCopGC148*********here is some homework for you Robert.... show any proof Kenny spent anything over $500 cash from 1972-1975. not Bob, or Steve said so either. proof required. explain how some of your witnesses seem to think he paid cash for everything without backing the story up. proof required explain why someone would claim an arrest for attempted murder and no record of that charge on file. proof required. explain to us when Kenny purchased the lots behind the Safeway, and when he sold them. proof required. explain how you have plenty to say and do here, but can't manage your own site full of error's. which you said you would fix weeks ago? any reason why Kenny would have trouble opening the stairs? what happened to the real estate person? Kenny should have pictures of the stamp collection for insurance, no pics, receipt, anything proving this? or is it more talk and less proof thingy going on like all the other stories? Sorry...you are getting into research being collected for Cooperland. I said a couple of months ago that I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website. You'll just have to wait like everyone else. Then...you can jump all over the book if you wish. In the meantime, I have no problem with your belief he wasn't Cooper. You are entitled to that, and since at present I can't prove absolutely that he was, I have no further comment on it. My next book DB COOPER vs THE GRAY COP will be so complete All new the 23 years it took the investigation not the story of DB Cooper But the case it self more for the drop zoner more of the 70s to 1979 the real case all the meetings with the FBI MC COY and Kenneth the planting of the money Should be done by Feb 20 th I can do it in 15 hours On sale soon ondamandbooks Then JFK Osswaled vs the Gray Cop Half way done already DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #45617 January 3, 2014 GrayCop wrote Quote On sale soon ondamandbooks Then JFK Osswaled vs the Gray Cop Too late for a 2013 Pulitzer Paul. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrshutter45 21 #45618 January 3, 2014 RobertMBlevins***here is some homework for you Robert.... show any proof Kenny spent anything over $500 cash from 1972-1975. not Bob, or Steve said so either. proof required. explain how some of your witnesses seem to think he paid cash for everything without backing the story up. proof required explain why someone would claim an arrest for attempted murder and no record of that charge on file. proof required. explain to us when Kenny purchased the lots behind the Safeway, and when he sold them. proof required. explain how you have plenty to say and do here, but can't manage your own site full of error's. which you said you would fix weeks ago? any reason why Kenny would have trouble opening the stairs? what happened to the real estate person? Kenny should have pictures of the stamp collection for insurance, no pics, receipt, anything proving this? or is it more talk and less proof thingy going on like all the other stories? Sorry...you are getting into research being collected for Cooperland. I said a couple of months ago that I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website. If I had any public trust with this thread remaining, it disappeared when some current users here were traced to filthy-ass comments about both me and Gayla (who cares zip about Cooper) on outside articles. Trust is GONE, and whether you like it or not, that's the way it is. You'll just have to wait like everyone else. Then...you can jump all over the book if you wish. In the meantime, I have no problem with your belief he wasn't Cooper. You are entitled to that, and since at present I can't prove absolutely that he was, I have no further comment on it. "I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website." Reality Hotel check in.....those questions are from your PDF. I guess I'll have to look into it myself and post the findings. played a lot of dodge ball when you were younger I gather (*laughs*) shouldn't take me to long to get the info. might even make a website...."It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smokin99 0 #45619 January 3, 2014 RobertMBlevins ***here is some homework for you Robert.... show any proof Kenny spent anything over $500 cash from 1972-1975. not Bob, or Steve said so either. proof required. explain how some of your witnesses seem to think he paid cash for everything without backing the story up. proof required explain why someone would claim an arrest for attempted murder and no record of that charge on file. proof required. explain to us when Kenny purchased the lots behind the Safeway, and when he sold them. proof required. explain how you have plenty to say and do here, but can't manage your own site full of error's. which you said you would fix weeks ago? any reason why Kenny would have trouble opening the stairs? what happened to the real estate person? Kenny should have pictures of the stamp collection for insurance, no pics, receipt, anything proving this? or is it more talk and less proof thingy going on like all the other stories? Sorry...you are getting into research being collected for Cooperland. I said a couple of months ago that I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website. If I had any public trust with this thread remaining, it disappeared when some current users here were traced to filthy-ass comments about both me and Gayla (who cares zip about Cooper) on outside articles. Trust is GONE, and whether you like it or not, that's the way it is. You'll just have to wait like everyone else. Then...you can jump all over the book if you wish. In the meantime, I have no problem with your belief he wasn't Cooper. You are entitled to that, and since at present I can't prove absolutely that he was, I have no further comment on it. Seriously Robert - whether you trust anyone or not is immaterial. It takes more than one person to make a circle. For anyone interested, if you want the real estate records that aren't online you just have to request them manually (phone or letter) and pay a fee to have them copied and mailed. Robert, the only one bringing up filthy-ass comments from day 1 is you. And you keep bringing it up....I just have to wonder why... Really, if you didn't keep bringing it up, it would be ignored and lost in the dung-heap of stupid, asinine internet trash forever...where it belongs. If you don't trust posters on here, just don't interact with them. AND BE DONE WITH IT. Since there is no other valid reason to keep bringing it up, I have to wonder....is it like some iterative marketing strategy, or maybe some strange form of Munchausen syndrome ala Tawana Brawley? ....lol.... I will believe the no-comment about KC when I see it. I think it is a Jo tease. but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrshutter45 21 #45620 January 3, 2014 "Seriously Robert - whether you trust anyone or not is immaterial. It takes more than one person to make a circle. For anyone interested, if you want the real estate records that aren't online you just have to request them manually (phone or letter) and pay a fee to have them copied and mailed." That's correct. I just got off the phone with them. it's very simple, something Blevins should have done in the first place, but it seems he is to busy correcting other peoples statements and theories. it had to be done. The comments (*laughs*) I posted weeks ago that he would bring it up again by 11/25/2013....was pretty close lol"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smokin99 0 #45621 January 3, 2014 mrshutter45 ******here is some homework for you Robert.... show any proof Kenny spent anything over $500 cash from 1972-1975. not Bob, or Steve said so either. proof required. explain how some of your witnesses seem to think he paid cash for everything without backing the story up. proof required explain why someone would claim an arrest for attempted murder and no record of that charge on file. proof required. explain to us when Kenny purchased the lots behind the Safeway, and when he sold them. proof required. explain how you have plenty to say and do here, but can't manage your own site full of error's. which you said you would fix weeks ago? any reason why Kenny would have trouble opening the stairs? what happened to the real estate person? Kenny should have pictures of the stamp collection for insurance, no pics, receipt, anything proving this? or is it more talk and less proof thingy going on like all the other stories? Sorry...you are getting into research being collected for Cooperland. I said a couple of months ago that I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website. If I had any public trust with this thread remaining, it disappeared when some current users here were traced to filthy-ass comments about both me and Gayla (who cares zip about Cooper) on outside articles. Trust is GONE, and whether you like it or not, that's the way it is. You'll just have to wait like everyone else. Then...you can jump all over the book if you wish. In the meantime, I have no problem with your belief he wasn't Cooper. You are entitled to that, and since at present I can't prove absolutely that he was, I have no further comment on it. "I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website." Reality Hotel check in.....those questions are from your PDF. I guess I'll have to look into it myself and post the findings. played a lot of dodge ball when you were younger I gather (*laughs*) shouldn't take me to long to get the info. might even make a website.... On the stamps and coins....even if KC did have one - many, if not most, regular ol joe collectors rarely buy a "collection". They purchase or find individual items over a long period of time and the individual items then form a collection that, if they are lucky, matures in value over time. Those that seriously try to eliminate their candidates, rather than force random findings to fit a pre-selected conclusion have a better chance at arriving at the truth. .....(Of course, whether they ultimately like or accept that truth is a whole other issue) but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrshutter45 21 #45622 January 3, 2014 smokin99 *********here is some homework for you Robert.... show any proof Kenny spent anything over $500 cash from 1972-1975. not Bob, or Steve said so either. proof required. explain how some of your witnesses seem to think he paid cash for everything without backing the story up. proof required explain why someone would claim an arrest for attempted murder and no record of that charge on file. proof required. explain to us when Kenny purchased the lots behind the Safeway, and when he sold them. proof required. explain how you have plenty to say and do here, but can't manage your own site full of error's. which you said you would fix weeks ago? any reason why Kenny would have trouble opening the stairs? what happened to the real estate person? Kenny should have pictures of the stamp collection for insurance, no pics, receipt, anything proving this? or is it more talk and less proof thingy going on like all the other stories? Sorry...you are getting into research being collected for Cooperland. I said a couple of months ago that I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website. If I had any public trust with this thread remaining, it disappeared when some current users here were traced to filthy-ass comments about both me and Gayla (who cares zip about Cooper) on outside articles. Trust is GONE, and whether you like it or not, that's the way it is. You'll just have to wait like everyone else. Then...you can jump all over the book if you wish. In the meantime, I have no problem with your belief he wasn't Cooper. You are entitled to that, and since at present I can't prove absolutely that he was, I have no further comment on it. "I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website." Reality Hotel check in.....those questions are from your PDF. I guess I'll have to look into it myself and post the findings. played a lot of dodge ball when you were younger I gather (*laughs*) shouldn't take me to long to get the info. might even make a website.... On the stamps and coins....even if KC did have one - many, if not most, regular ol joe collectors rarely buy a "collection". They purchase or find individual items over a long period of time and the individual items then form a collection that, if they are lucky, matures in value over time. Those that seriously try to eliminate their candidates, rather than force random findings to fit a pre-selected conclusion have a better chance at arriving at the truth. .....(Of course, whether they ultimately like or accept that truth is a whole other issue) A collection worth that amount should have some sort of paper trail with it. also, why would Kenny have trouble with the stairs? tina didn't have any problems, why should Kenny."It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 245 #45623 January 3, 2014 smokin99 *********here is some homework for you Robert.... show any proof Kenny spent anything over $500 cash from 1972-1975. not Bob, or Steve said so either. proof required. explain how some of your witnesses seem to think he paid cash for everything without backing the story up. proof required explain why someone would claim an arrest for attempted murder and no record of that charge on file. proof required. explain to us when Kenny purchased the lots behind the Safeway, and when he sold them. proof required. explain how you have plenty to say and do here, but can't manage your own site full of error's. which you said you would fix weeks ago? any reason why Kenny would have trouble opening the stairs? what happened to the real estate person? Kenny should have pictures of the stamp collection for insurance, no pics, receipt, anything proving this? or is it more talk and less proof thingy going on like all the other stories? Sorry...you are getting into research being collected for Cooperland. I said a couple of months ago that I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website. If I had any public trust with this thread remaining, it disappeared when some current users here were traced to filthy-ass comments about both me and Gayla (who cares zip about Cooper) on outside articles. Trust is GONE, and whether you like it or not, that's the way it is. You'll just have to wait like everyone else. Then...you can jump all over the book if you wish. In the meantime, I have no problem with your belief he wasn't Cooper. You are entitled to that, and since at present I can't prove absolutely that he was, I have no further comment on it. "I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website." Reality Hotel check in.....those questions are from your PDF. I guess I'll have to look into it myself and post the findings. played a lot of dodge ball when you were younger I gather (*laughs*) shouldn't take me to long to get the info. might even make a website.... On the stamps and coins....even if KC did have one - many, if not most, regular ol joe collectors rarely buy a "collection". They purchase or find individual items over a long period of time and the individual items then form a collection that, if they are lucky, matures in value over time. Those that seriously try to eliminate their candidates, rather than force random findings to fit a pre-selected conclusion have a better chance at arriving at the truth. .....(Of course, whether they ultimately like or accept that truth is a whole other issue) That's correct. Just the tip of the iceberg, really! But like everything else Blevins has ever presented, details are missing - it's just claims of an IMPORTANT STAMP & COIN COLLECTION WITH $200,000.00+ (trust me til I rust!). We dont even know if KC was a stamp and coin collector in the conventional sense@! ... were on "approvals" lists with various dealers ... received approvals from various dealers.. ... belonged to the APS or some other stamp collecting organisation and may have received approvals that way ... ... had a relevant magazine subscription (ie Linds etc) ... ... a long paper trail. Note* It's been quite obvious through his whole contrivance Blevins knows knows about stamp or Coin collecting, literally! Just as he knows nothing about realty transactions! So his claims are bogus at an elementary level. It is amazing to me that a so-called Author would know nothing about his subject(s)! I mean be totally blank ... deaf dumb and stupid? That is the level of troll we are dealing with in this socalled "author". Blevins has his subject, KC, living in a literal vacuum! (Probably because the author (Blevins) is the one literally living in a vacuum, making claims! Is it any surprise Blevins says: ""I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website." ... ... since he literally knows nothing and has nothing but made up crap about his subject? Wil this RobertMBlevins include himself in his socalled book on "Cooperland" ? How will he pitch himself? As "Savior of Cooperland"? A troll is a troll is a troll is a troll, unless it's Mr. Ed! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrshutter45 21 #45624 January 3, 2014 "Is it any surprise Blevins says: ""I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website." ... " he likes to call it "Dodging' when he doesn't get a reply or an answer! I'll just find out myself like I did with Jo."It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smokin99 0 #45625 January 3, 2014 Whether you are holding out until some huge truth emerges, or until you get your hands on the fingerprints/dna, or until you write the book, or to keep the men in black away, or so you can be the one to find the holy grail - it is futile to think that you will really "solve" the case with circumstantial information. Why would the FBI, at this late date, (barring any new evidence) consider any candidate as the one and close the case based on anything other than what they have used to exclude all of the other contenders? "Okay, on second thought, we don't really need to match up on any of the real evidence anymore - we just think you're cute. lol...oh wait....this sounds awfully familiar. Regardless, since absolutely no one has been able to put their guy in Portland or Seattle, much less on the plane that night, (or prove that they were not somewhere else) AND everyone's candidate resembles the composite(s), we -- those of us who don't have a candidate and some that think he didn't make it anyway, and some that think he didn't but hope he did -- get to have fun and vet em all. Parry and debunk and try to maintain the fact from the fiction. Same rules apply for Jo, Blevins, Gray, Fly, Cook, sail, east/west, Brown, Marla, the Formans, grey/gray/cup/cop and anyone else who presents a candidate as the "one". but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites