FLYJACK 706 #64201 11 hours ago 2 hours ago, JAGdb said: If this was true, it would turn the case on it's head. It would raise so many questions as to how it could have been ignored or not known by the FBI. There's no way anyone would have suggested Ariel as a drop zone with this information. Because of this, I have to dismiss this outright. I do wonder who the "researcher" is or was that relayed this story. The other part of Dr. Edward's post that I found interesting was the comment from the chase plane pilot regarding that 305 was changing course "Flight 305 was changing course 45 degrees every 30 seconds". Can this tell us anything useful ? Does it support auto pilot or non auto pilot? If it suggests being hand flown, why was the pilot of 305, flying in this manner ? How many of these course changes were observed i.e. was it observed for 5 minutes, 10 minutes ? Is it reflected anywhere in the "official" flight path map ? Is it a nothing burger ? It was a bar story from another researcher, not very reliable. The chase plane pilot did not say "Flight 305 was changing course 45 degrees evert 30 seconds" that was attributed to Seattle Centre in Himmelsbach book NORJAK. This is not true, the plane did not change 45 degrees, impossible... Himmelsbach's book does have some errors.. I bet it was "4 to 5 degrees" not 45 degrees, just misunderstood. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 706 #64202 9 hours ago (edited) So, now Ryan posts a sketch A image with KK5-1 eyes from sketch B.. and claims it looks more human. Think about it.. Ryan has incorporated a significant part of sketch B into A to make it better.. but still claims A is the best likeness.. This makes no sense... irrational. Soon, he will be showing the full sketch B while still claiming sketch A is better. Edited 9 hours ago by FLYJACK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 244 #64203 5 hours ago 5 hours ago, FLYJACK said: It was a bar story from another researcher, not very reliable. The chase plane pilot did not say "Flight 305 was changing course 45 degrees evert 30 seconds" that was attributed to Seattle Centre in Himmelsbach book NORJAK. This is not true, the plane did not change 45 degrees, impossible... Himmelsbach's book does have some errors.. I bet it was "4 to 5 degrees" not 45 degrees, just misunderstood. If the approach plane's lights are off I doubt anyone on the stairs would see anything, much less hear anything due to the whine of 305s engines. I tend to agree - just a bar story. Im disappointed Edwards would spend time on it. This is the last thing we need right now - whether by accident or his plan Cooper is right back headed toward Portland where it all started. And for some strange reason or intentionally, The US Treasury Forensic people will not even be consulted when the money is found. They are the very people you would want to consult and have examine and deal with the found money! The FBI decides to use its own Lab in Washington DC ... but maybe the Treausry people were consulted and we just have no lab report to confirm that ? Its strange what the FBI gives us vs. what they dont share or comment about ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 706 #64204 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, georger said: If the approach plane's lights are off I doubt anyone on the stairs would see anything, much less hear anything due to the whine of 305s engines. I tend to agree - just a bar story. Im disappointed Edwards would spend time on it. This is the last thing we need right now - whether by accident or his plan Cooper is right back headed toward Portland where it all started. And for some strange reason or intentionally, The US Treasury Forensic people will not even be consulted when the money is found. They are the very people you would want to consult and have examine and deal with the found money! The FBI decides to use its own Lab in Washington DC ... but maybe the Treausry people were consulted and we just have no lab report to confirm that ? Its strange what the FBI gives us vs. what they dont share or comment about ? True, it all depends if the airstairwell light was on.. there is a light switch on the interphone panel.. Cooper did use the interphone at 8:05... if that light was off the trailing pilot couldn't see.. Edwards and others are wasting time trying to move the jump south.. Soderlind got it right, it was 8:11 almost exactly. I have data to prove it and I have said for years that it could have been as far south as Battleground,, not now. People keep trying to change the evidence without any facts.. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Cooper Vortex 100 #64205 4 hours ago New episode out now! DB Cooper was my Dad with my good friend James Lane. https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-was-my-dad-james-lane/ Enjoy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 706 #64206 3 hours ago This is why this case has become a total farce... All the time now is spent on bad theories, terrible suspects, wrong ideas and trying to correct them. Edwards, a very smart guy completely screws up Cooper's complexion,, makes completely false claims and fails to understand that White/Caucasian and swarthy/olive are NOT incompatible.. Swarthy Latin Americans were called White/Caucasian.. Edwards does NOT understand Latin American ethnicity... they descend from American Indians and Spanish... some appear very "Indian" and others very "caucasian". Swarthy means dark,, Edwards is just wrong, witnesses did say swarthy, dark and olive... latin His evidence is wrong, his assumptions about Latin American ethnicity is wrong and his conclusion is wrong. Edwards conflates the term Hispanic with Latin American.. Latin American is NOT incompatible with Caucasian. Smart people like Ryan and Edwards just keep pushing nonsense. https://medium.com/@robert.edwards_87384/d-b-cooper-and-flight-305-the-hijackers-ethnicity-02aeef5a25a4 100% FALSE EDWARDS "And yet, no witness described the hijacker as “swarthy” or “dark-complexioned”. This was a fiction entirely of the FBI’s devising. The majority of the witnesses, and all of those who interacted closely with the hijacker, described him as white or Caucasian." swarthy means dark, many said dark 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 706 #64207 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, The Cooper Vortex said: New episode out now! DB Cooper was my Dad with my good friend James Lane. https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-was-my-dad-james-lane/ Enjoy! This is getting ridiculous now.. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 244 #64208 2 hours ago (edited) 17 minutes ago, FLYJACK said: This is getting ridiculous now.. I agree but nothing we can done about it - except - stick to facts etc. These folks will run out of steam then come back around .................. you can count on that! Edited 2 hours ago by georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYJACK 706 #64209 1 hour ago Just now, georger said: I agree but nothing we can done about it - except - stick to facts etc. These folks will run out of steam then come back around .................. you can count on that! I feel like we are getting punked.... the case is going backwards not forwards. Too many opinions presented as facts, not enough focus. Some recent things heard in the Vortex… Sketch A is better than B. False - Murphy Cooper had a small skinny nose. False Cooper was Caucasian not swarthy. False, can be both Cooper jumped at Orchards, the FBI confirmed it. Provably false Cossey’s NB6 parachute description is accurate. False, no corroboration and many conflicts The tie was worn at Union Carbide. Conjecture Cooper was 6’ tall, not under 5’10”. False, unknown. FBI used 5'8" as the lower bound. The TBAR money was human buried. Extremely unlikely. Cunningham’s revised flightpath times. Provably false The distributed ransom list was non-sequential. False it was re-ordered alpha-numeric Braden was Cooper. False Cooper had Skip Hall's obvious and severely wrinkled forehead. False, no witness ever mentioned it. Vordahl was Cooper. False My uncle was Cooper. False My dad was Cooper. Nonsense Cooper was a pilot. Conjecture, aviation experience but not necessarily a pilot Cooper’s initial demand was aistairs lowered on takeoff. False, initial demand was airstairs lowered inflight. The placard was still attached to NORJAK. False, NORJAK never had that placard. It has a different one (wording). No letter's were from Cooper. Conjecture Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
