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Only 16 days left until the end of Cooper times.
Enjoy it while ya got it!
Mountains will quake - seas will rush in -
and consume everything Cooper.
REPENT!
ONLY 16 DAYS LEFT AND COUNTING.
FREE AT LAST!
FREE AT LAST!
ps:
Following FREEDOM DAY, there will be a slight delay
of two months for a commercials, by known pissers
and whiners, in the Cooperphelia.
Enjoy it while ya got it!
Mountains will quake - seas will rush in -
and consume everything Cooper.
REPENT!
ONLY 16 DAYS LEFT AND COUNTING.
FREE AT LAST!
FREE AT LAST!
ps:
Following FREEDOM DAY, there will be a slight delay
of two months for a commercials, by known pissers
and whiners, in the Cooperphelia.
Robert99 50
QuoteQuoteOpinions abound and yours is well known - but even if the fingerprints or DNA match Mel or any other suspect - until something is found that says otherwise, there is still no proof that he died that night. Just sayin....
and no proof that he lived either.......................Just sayin..........
There is more evidence leading to the idea that he lived, rather than died. The two biggest examples are the money found at Tena Bar (far off the flight path and if you believe Tom Kaye's team, unlikely to have just washed up there on its own) and the other is the lack of a body, parachutes, remainder of money, briefcase, etc.
They DID find the placard, though. A reletively small item.
Blevins, You have obviously given up on KC and joined Jo Weber's team to support the idea that Duane planted the money at Tina Bar.
You should keep in mind that interpretations of various pieces of evidence are subject to change as new information is developed. Nothing is engraved in stone yet.
QuoteQuoteOpinions abound and yours is well known - but even if the fingerprints or DNA match Mel or any other suspect - until something is found that says otherwise, there is still no proof that he died that night. Just sayin....
and no proof that he lived either.......................Just sayin..........
There is more evidence leading to the idea that he lived, rather than died. The two biggest examples are the money found at Tena Bar (far off the flight path and if you believe Tom Kaye's team, unlikely to have just washed up there on its own) and the other is the lack of a body, parachutes, remainder of money, briefcase, etc.
They DID find the placard, though. A reletively small item.
Robert, those are the very things I would like to have said, but chose not to post until you made the one common sense remark made tonight.
Even Georger is his "weird" post made sense.
I have had a HORRIBLE day and not Cooper related. I am so very very tired and NO I won't be at the symposium or in WA to hear JT tell all of his lies. I hope there is someone with enough GUTS to stand up to his story about the things he and I talked about from 1996 to 2001 when I discover HE had been LIEING to me.
If no one ever remembers anything I said - remember this:
In 1996 when I was PUT in contact with JT - I didn't have a map or the names of the places.
I have repeatedly told in this thread what I discussed with JT during those yrs and how I came to find out he was the one LIEING to me.
GOD (the Creator) as my witness - I have NOT lied about anything Duane told me and showed me nor the places he took me...I just didn't know the names of them. My memory of them was dead on....and I found all but one of them. A couple in 2001 and the rest in 2010.
I only had the names JT gave me of the places, but he kept ignoring the path of our trip even when I insisted we crossed the Columbia before or at the dam and that we were on HWY 14 when we turned North to 500. I have been to HELL and back and if there is a HELL it could never be worse than the 15 yr nightmare Jerry Thomas has put me thru.
JT is probably why the FBI never took me serious and why they did not look deeper into Duane.
Note JT has NEVER talked about the Taxi driver and his suspect. JT was adamant this was the man. This man was brought to the attention of the FBI by JT if my memory serves me. NOTE he never talks about this suspect!
For those interested there was a large article on Jerry in regards to the Taxi driver and his old buddy. All of this after Duane had been presented as a suspect.
I have always wondered what Jerry found on Green Mt and why he has refused to this day to admit it was the one thing I describe so in detail (a place others knew the moment I described it).
Even though it was called a Mt. it was as you guys say a "hill". It was too wet for Bruce and I to venture up the MT. but it was as I described it and I recognized it as we passed it. A woman in the area - sent us right back to the very place I showed Bruce.
It was so peaceful on that hill in 1979 and I wonder why it was so special to Duane. I had told in the thread that in 1979 it reminded me of a cemetary with large boulders as grave markers spread out amongest all of the tall - and what appeared to be some dying trees. It was early fall and perhaps they had just lost their leaves. Now there is a Tower on that MT.
I want to go back to that place.
I will also note that JT claimed in this thread the place did NOT exist - He told you guys there was a Golf Course and Shopping Center there - (they were quiet a ways away from this "Mt").
All of this makes me wonder what JT is concealing. If he was the "man on the ground" why did he LIE to this thread.
Well, guys I have said my 2 dollars worth and I am off to bed, but first I am going to smoke a cancer stick. I look like Hell and feel like Hell so what difference does a smoke matter.
Tonight I lit my first cigarette in this house and I have been here for 8 yrs. We live and then we die.
I have NEVER spoke this badly of someone, but I hope JERRY burns in whatever he considers Hell. Green Mt was right under his nose and very vivid in my description to you guys and to Jerry (the description I gave him was exactly what I descibed to you guys for yrs and to the FBI in 1996 and to Himmelsbach).
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
georger 244
I DO believe the money may have been a plant, a red herring done sometime after the crime to try and throw off the FBI.
Why not "plant" it on the doorstep of the Federal Bldg in Seattle in a shoebox with a big red sign?
Or mail it to Himmelsbach! Then write a note to a newspaper.
If you're going to plant something it has to be
findable? Yes? Out in plain sight somewhere?
So obviously nobody found it 'buried inthe sand,
on Tena's Bar'. Might just as well have buried it
in Peru on some mountain top under a boulder!
Your allegation the money find 'changed the FBI stance/approach to the Cooper case in 1980, is
backed up by what proof? For one thing, it is easily
shown the FBI had already changed its stance on
the drop sone as early as 1976 at the latest, before
the money find. What else are you contending the FBI changed - directly as a result of the money find?
16 DAYS AND COUNTING - GLORY DAY WILL ARRIVE - REPENT -
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Jo wrote
OK Jo. That's the one thing I'll remember. Odd choice for an epitath. It seems so tangential to the hunt for Cooper. Jerry could have lied to you but that doesn't make Duane into Cooper nor does it mean Jerry is part of a conspiracy or coverup. I know you will never agree but the blowup between you and Jerry about geography may simply be due to a mutual misunderstanding.
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QuoteIf no one ever remembers anything I said - remember this:
In 1996 when I was PUT in contact with JT - I didn't have a map or the names of the places.
I have repeatedly told in this thread what I discussed with JT during those yrs and how I came to find out he was the one LIEING to me.
OK Jo. That's the one thing I'll remember. Odd choice for an epitath. It seems so tangential to the hunt for Cooper. Jerry could have lied to you but that doesn't make Duane into Cooper nor does it mean Jerry is part of a conspiracy or coverup. I know you will never agree but the blowup between you and Jerry about geography may simply be due to a mutual misunderstanding.
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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
Robert99 50
I DO believe the money may have been a plant, a red herring done sometime after the crime to try and throw off the FBI.
Blevins, The money was found more than 8 years after the crime. What do you mean by "to try and throw off the FBI"? They didn't have a clue at that point.
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If he survived the jump he sure as hell wouldn't pack it out. He'd leave it, concealed if possible. If he died it's out there too. Either way there should be a canopy and rig at or very near his landing site.
Anybody disagree?
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Anybody disagree?
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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
georger 244
We've been down this road before. Because the hijacker would not WANT the FBI to think he was still alive. That's why burying it near the river makes sense. .
Tena's Bar is far removed from any drop zone or
urban area - in those days. My cousins used to fish
there, One cousin used to patrol it .. Until 1980 it
was buried UNDER topsand. COVERED IN BRUSH!
So what precisely should people have done? Get out
their divining rods and walk west miles, at the
Columbia River? If this was a plant it was the
poorest plant ever, in a remote location, where only
time and LUCK would ever uncover it. Jo's account
makes as much sense.
Even Tom finally accepts the money eroded out of
the sand AFTER a prior deposit and years of erosion.
16 DAYS AND COUNTING! ALL RIDERS OF BOOKS
SHOULD START PACKING AND HEAD FOR THE HILLS.
JUDGEMENT DAY ARRIVES SOON. REPENT.
aND YES, WEVE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD BEFORE -
only because, you keep going back returning to it.
Think out of the sand.
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Jerry wrote
No spin if you pulled right on the stairs facing forward and let the deploying canopy pull you off. Watch the Air America 727 jump videos. You'll see a very obvious solution for the potential aymmetric payload induced spin problem.
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QuoteA person experienced in jumping would have known what kind of foot wear/clothing to use along with the fact that, 25 extra pounds of weight would put him into a spin
No spin if you pulled right on the stairs facing forward and let the deploying canopy pull you off. Watch the Air America 727 jump videos. You'll see a very obvious solution for the potential aymmetric payload induced spin problem.
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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
Where? What? New? More than yestereday? Or the day before? Or the day before that?
Where? What? HELL I MISSED IT!
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