DB Cooper

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But I can't stomach her deceptions and manipulative behaviors. I experience her as a bully in skirts, and I think it is important to stand up to her.

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That said, it is clear to me that Jo is unable and unwilling to answer any of my Cooper concerns directly, ie: who is Robbie Clampett and how did she get Tina's address.

His posting above has been reduced for the sake of time and energy.

Can't believe I actually called this bully to ask him a question & then came to the computer & found this ludicrous posting.


Well, if you think I am going to answer your questions only for you to twist the facts - got another guess coming! I have answered both questions in the past so they do NOT deserve to be re-addressed. Brucie do you know how to read & comprehend.

Why don't you ask Galen - he knows and I have the emails to prove it - but there is no need.

Cook is the sneaky snake in the grass, and he has used his ablility to manuver and confuse and he has really done a number on you Brucie

Brucie is the SHARK - how well he just describe himself!

Dangerous not me - Brucie twists things & make all kinds of notations about the mental status of others. He is the one with a problem - A bullie who never grew up and is only self-serving with smear tactics.

Actions such as yours Brucie! I call it the way I see and hear it...and anyone who reads your postings can see right thru you.

Regretfully I did call him a few moments ago to ask if there was a picture of this Brad Collins on his site or taken by any one at Ariel.

Why should I apologize to BRUCIE when he continues to demean, twist and demand answers to questions I have already answered in the only way I am willing to. I am NOT going to make-up an answer for him.

He has never apologize about Tina or to Tina for his horrid actions. Yet, he wants me to apologize to him. Cold day in Hell!

How would I do bodily harm to a giant with the manners of a bull in a china closet?

HIS ATTACKS need to stop NOW!
He thinks his words have power and his words only make him VERY SMALL! He has a brilliant mind and the ability to write - but, he is self serving - always putting his own twisted thoughts and sordid opinions into the what otherwise was a good informative paragraph or writing and in his postings.

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Jo wrote

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Remember I had 3 or 4 conversations with Mayfield - one before he actually knew who I was...and before he became a suspect. (emphasis supplied)

Jo,

I think Ted Mayfield was a suspect while the skyjack was in progress. He was a bad boy national champion skydiver, pilot, convicted felon, armed robber, ex special forces, local... Anybody who knew Teddy would likely suspect him.

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You are correct in that. Mayfield was a suspect from day one, but I often forget some details or speak out of term.

I personally was not considering Mayfield as s suspect, but a source of information. It was only the last few pages of this thread that I felt a need to re-address Mayfield and my reviewing of the notes I wrotes in a spiral note book regarding my conversation with him. Actually difficult to remember what the notes meant, but YOU are correct he was a suspect on DAY one.

Only after finding there was a Jack Collins in the recent postings - did I revisit my phone call with Mayfield.

The notes were written prior to 2000 and not in order. The spiral was the thing I wrote notes in as I spoke to individuals. Not all of the notes are dated...and the 2 spirals are co-mingled - they were always on my kitchen counter which is where the phone was - I did NOT have a cordless. Some times the notes where made after I got off the phone. Just words to remind me of the conversation...I thought the FBI was investigating - but I was digging in to the past of Weber and calling people on my own. Trying to find any thing that led back to Weber and why he would confess to this crime and why he told me all the things he had told me in our 17 yr marriage.

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Jo wrote

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Remember I had 3 or 4 conversations with Mayfield - one before he actually knew who I was...and before he became a suspect. (emphasis supplied)

Jo,

I think Ted Mayfield was a suspect while the skyjack was in progress. He was a bad boy national champion skydiver, pilot, convicted felon, armed robber, ex special forces, local... Anybody who knew Teddy would likely suspect him.

377

So here's Mayfield at a "tracking" competition. From Oregonian November 26, 1965.
He says they would "dive straight down from 10,500 feet to terminal velocity of about 220 miles per hour. Then tuck forward into a bent over position as if about to go off a diving board. This creates an airfoil like the wing of an airplane with reduced differential pressure on your back which shoots you forward at up to 90 miles an hour". He and a partner tracked in opposite directions about a 2 miles in 55 seconds while falling about 200 mules an hour with smoke coming out of their heels
I guess a Cooper jump would have been small potatoes.

but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill

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377

***Back to the skyjacking....

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Also, I think Mayfield's jump school was in Vancouver, Washington, too. Interesting, eh?

Teddy Mayfield obviouly wasnt the jumper but the crime sure fits. He was a convicted ARMED ROBBER. That's a long way from picking pockets and stealing Kool Aid as far as big crime goes.

From Sluggos site: Court records in Oregon show Mayfield has various convictions, including an armed robbery just prior to the D. B. Cooper heist, transportation of a stolen plane across state lines, and Criminal Negligent Homicide, for which he served 5 months in prison. Mayfield states that he has over 50 years experience flying airplanes, is a former member of the U.S. Army Special Forces from 1961-63, and has completed over 8,000 skydiving jumps.

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As I recall, from the Myers-Dvorak roast of Teddy, Ted's crimes
weren't as severe or hardened, as the labels imply. He said
himself he had poor legal representation, and even poorer
judgement at the time each of his socalled 'crimes' occurred.

If I recall this correctly, the Criminal Negligent Homicide
conviction for which he served actual time, was a negligence
charge after the fact... after one of Ted's students or a client
at his sky diving school, plunged to his death in a chute Teddy
had packed, or failed to check ... or something like that. It was
a criminal negligence charge vs. an overt criminal act on Ted's
part. It apparently hit Teddy hard at the time resulting in his
school being closed... and him serving time. Ted has said 'things
accumulated on me during that period of my life resulting in
several criminal charges ... and I knew when the Cooper event
occurred they would look at me, so I called Himmelsbach.
Years later he was a successful Mayor of his community etc.

Ted's life (and deeds) do not add up to the wholesale hardened
criminal type Myers and Dvorak were contending ... not by a
long shot. And part of his history was ordinary bad luck, stress,
and poor judgement.

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18E

I can see not much has changed on this MB. Most everyone still pissing on each other's cornflakes.

I would only assault myself and invite scorn if to ask if there has been any real discussions to the facts of the case and if anything of relevance has been submitted.

I've got my raincoat on and galoshes on.

Yup usual circle jerk..... a couple people in need of lots of tissues.

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smokin99

***Jo wrote

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Remember I had 3 or 4 conversations with Mayfield - one before he actually knew who I was...and before he became a suspect. (emphasis supplied)

Jo,

I think Ted Mayfield was a suspect while the skyjack was in progress. He was a bad boy national champion skydiver, pilot, convicted felon, armed robber, ex special forces, local... Anybody who knew Teddy would likely suspect him.

377

So here's Mayfield at a "tracking" competition. From Oregonian November 26, 1965.
He says they would "dive straight down from 10,500 feet to terminal velocity of about 220 miles per hour. Then tuck forward into a bent over position as if about to go off a diving board. This creates an airfoil like the wing of an airplane with reduced differential pressure on your back which shoots you forward at up to 90 miles an hour". He and a partner tracked in opposite directions about a 2 miles in 55 seconds while falling about 200 mules an hour with smoke coming out of their heels
I guess a Cooper jump would have been small potatoes.

Mayfield not one time boasted about his capabilities and I didn't know enough to ask questions.
I never dreamt I was talking to such an accomplished diver. I was trying to find out about Duane.

Noted in the note book he was dealing with a personal problem.
He and his wife where going to a place they had - didn't note where...that first time I called it seemed like he thought I was someone else when I was enquiring about John Collins. I didn't know anything about Jack Collins until recently and it got my attention this week.

He was hard to catch and his wife answered the phone....can't tell from the notes - how long it took me to be able to talk to him.

What else do you know about Mayfield








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skyjack71

******Jo wrote

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Remember I had 3 or 4 conversations with Mayfield - one before he actually knew who I was...and before he became a suspect. (emphasis supplied)

Jo,

I think Ted Mayfield was a suspect while the skyjack was in progress. He was a bad boy national champion skydiver, pilot, convicted felon, armed robber, ex special forces, local... Anybody who knew Teddy would likely suspect him.

377

So here's Mayfield at a "tracking" competition. From Oregonian November 26, 1965.
He says they would "dive straight down from 10,500 feet to terminal velocity of about 220 miles per hour. Then tuck forward into a bent over position as if about to go off a diving board. This creates an airfoil like the wing of an airplane with reduced differential pressure on your back which shoots you forward at up to 90 miles an hour". He and a partner tracked in opposite directions about a 2 miles in 55 seconds while falling about 200 mules an hour with smoke coming out of their heels
I guess a Cooper jump would have been small potatoes.

Mayfield not one time boasted about his capabilities and I didn't know enough to ask questions.
I never dreamt I was talking to such an accomplished diver. I was trying to find out about Duane.

Noted in the note book he was dealing with a personal problem.
He and his wife where going to a place they had - didn't note where...that first time I called it seemed like he thought I was someone else when I was enquiring about John Collins. I didn't know anything about Jack Collins until recently and it got my attention this week.

He was hard to catch and his wife answered the phone....can't tell from the notes - how long it took me to be able to talk to him.

What else do you know about Mayfield

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PLEAZE dont contend its related to Tom Collins!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Collins

donta yerka da sir'cul, ja!



And if you really want to learn about Mayfield go read the whole
Myers-Dvorak thread which discussed Teddy for more than two
years ... while you were promoting "Duane Was Cooper"!

Strange you would have talked to the guy and yet know
absolutely nothing about him!

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georger

******Back to the skyjacking....

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Also, I think Mayfield's jump school was in Vancouver, Washington, too. Interesting, eh?

Teddy Mayfield obviouly wasnt the jumper but the crime sure fits. He was a convicted ARMED ROBBER. That's a long way from picking pockets and stealing Kool Aid as far as big crime goes. OJ's armed robbery conviction comes to mind. He was just collecting his property from some thugs who stole it. Ask him.

From Sluggos site: Court records in Oregon show Mayfield has various convictions, including an armed robbery just prior to the D. B. Cooper heist, transportation of a stolen plane across state lines, and Criminal Negligent Homicide, for which he served 5 months in prison. Mayfield states that he has over 50 years experience flying airplanes, is a former member of the U.S. Army Special Forces from 1961-63, and has completed over 8,000 skydiving jumps.

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As I recall, from the Myers-Dvorak roast of Teddy, Ted's crimes
weren't as severe or hardened, as the labels imply. He said
himself he had poor legal representation!

If I recall this correctly, the Criminal Negligent Homicide
conviction for which he served actual time, was a negligence
charge after the fact... after one of Ted's students or a client
as his sky diving school, plunged to his death in a chute Teddy
had packed ... or something like that. It was a criminal
negligence charge vs. an overt criminal act on Ted's part. It
apparently hit Teddy hard at the time resulting in his school
being closed... and him serving time. Years later he was the
Mayor his community etc.

Ted's life (and deeds) do not add up to the wholesale hardened
criminal type Myers and Dvorak were contending ... not by a
long shot. And part of his history was ordinary bad luck.

Trust me Georger. If Teddy was convicted of armed robbery it was more than ordinary bad luck. Convicted felons usually have a story about incompetent lawyers and lying witnesses.

A number of deaths occurred at Mayfield's DZ allegedly due to his negligence. It's not murder, I'll give you that. It's not an intentional killing of another person, but it evidences a callous disregard for the life of someone who has put their trust in you, a student skydiver.

I did talk to a person who claimed to have been a first hand witness to Ted's DZ operations for student jumpers. He said the gear was obviously unsafe and Mayfield used it anyway.

I wasn't there. My info is hearsay. But don't be an apologist for Mayfield.
Big diff between armed robbery and stealing Kool Aid.

377

2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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georger

******Back to the skyjacking....

.....

Also, I think Mayfield's jump school was in Vancouver, Washington, too. Interesting, eh?

Teddy Mayfield obviouly wasnt the jumper but the crime sure fits. He was a convicted ARMED ROBBER. That's a long way from picking pockets and stealing Kool Aid as far as big crime goes.

From Sluggos site: Court records in Oregon show Mayfield has various convictions, including an armed robbery just prior to the D. B. Cooper heist, transportation of a stolen plane across state lines, and Criminal Negligent Homicide, for which he served 5 months in prison. Mayfield states that he has over 50 years experience flying airplanes, is a former member of the U.S. Army Special Forces from 1961-63, and has completed over 8,000 skydiving jumps.

377

As I recall, from the Myers-Dvorak roast of Teddy, Ted's crimes
weren't as severe or hardened, as the labels imply. He said
himself he had poor legal representation, and even poorer
judgement at the time each of his socalled 'crimes' occurred.

If I recall this correctly, the Criminal Negligent Homicide
conviction for which he served actual time, was a negligence
charge after the fact... after one of Ted's students or a client
at his sky diving school, plunged to his death in a chute Teddy
had packed, or failed to check ... or something like that. It was
a criminal negligence charge vs. an overt criminal act on Ted's
part. It apparently hit Teddy hard at the time resulting in his
school being closed... and him serving time. Years later he was
a successful Mayor of his community etc.

Ted's life (and deeds) do not add up to the wholesale hardened
criminal type Myers and Dvorak were contending ... not by a
long shot. And part of his history was ordinary bad luck.

That post helped a lot of the history to come back to me. He tried to help me out - and I think that meant he was good guy. I didn't get anything from him that spelled out deception of any kind.

I did speak with him during all of that Myers & Dvorak thing. That was going on when I was posting at Unsolved Mysteries...just looking for information. Talking to anyone I could find. I had to pay for my long distance at that time - no unlimited calling. I have ALL of my bills so I can trace every time I called him - but do not remember the phone number - give me the location and what his number was then - and I can track every call.

I didn't even know where his drop zone or school was located - WAS not into this that deep at the time.
Just trying to find out who knew Duane and who Duane knew!

Oh well, Tired of the chase and too painful to sit at the computer for very long. Easier for me to talk on the phone now a days!

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georger

******Back to the skyjacking....

.....

Also, I think Mayfield's jump school was in Vancouver, Washington, too. Interesting, eh?

Teddy Mayfield obviouly wasnt the jumper but the crime sure fits. He was a convicted ARMED ROBBER. That's a long way from picking pockets and stealing Kool Aid as far as big crime goes.

From Sluggos site: Court records in Oregon show Mayfield has various convictions, including an armed robbery just prior to the D. B. Cooper heist, transportation of a stolen plane across state lines, and Criminal Negligent Homicide, for which he served 5 months in prison. Mayfield states that he has over 50 years experience flying airplanes, is a former member of the U.S. Army Special Forces from 1961-63, and has completed over 8,000 skydiving jumps.

377

As I recall, from the Myers-Dvorak roast of Teddy, Ted's crimes
weren't as severe or hardened, as the labels imply. He said
himself he had poor legal representation, and even poorer
judgement at the time each of his socalled 'crimes' occurred.

If I recall this correctly, the Criminal Negligent Homicide
conviction for which he served actual time, was a negligence
charge after the fact... after one of Ted's students or a client
at his sky diving school, plunged to his death in a chute Teddy
had packed, or failed to check ... or something like that. It was
a criminal negligence charge vs. an overt criminal act on Ted's
part. It apparently hit Teddy hard at the time resulting in his
school being closed... and him serving time. Years later he was
a successful Mayor of his community etc.

Ted's life (and deeds) do not add up to the wholesale hardened
criminal type Myers and Dvorak were contending ... not by a
long shot. And part of his history was ordinary bad luck.

He was also pretty high profile in the Portland area as far as publicity and his parachute club, etc. in the mid 60s to early 70s. Lots of hits on him in sky diving competitions, meets, shows, clubs. Also multiple hits on close calls and ending up in the hospital and/or injuries. Crashing and landing in power lines and such.

Got in trouble with FAA later years over pilot license and not following the rules. I think he kinda sorta lied about getting clearance. I'd have to look at dates but I think his school had like 13 deaths in 22 years of operation. I don't know - that seems like a lot to me and smacks of playing real loose with the ol safety rules - but my frame of reference is that one is probably too many
Seems like he bounces back after every legal type encounter though. Not sure about his musculoskeletal system though. That tends to be less forgiving as the years move forward

but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill

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Just going thur some old pages I saved out of a 1999 appt book.

Ralph says:
"If you don't lie you never have to worry about what you say."

I wrote that on September 17, 1999.

Good point!

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smokin99

*********Back to the skyjacking....

.....

Also, I think Mayfield's jump school was in Vancouver, Washington, too. Interesting, eh?

Teddy Mayfield obviouly wasnt the jumper but the crime sure fits. He was a convicted ARMED ROBBER. That's a long way from picking pockets and stealing Kool Aid as far as big crime goes.

From Sluggos site: Court records in Oregon show Mayfield has various convictions, including an armed robbery just prior to the D. B. Cooper heist, transportation of a stolen plane across state lines, and Criminal Negligent Homicide, for which he served 5 months in prison. Mayfield states that he has over 50 years experience flying airplanes, is a former member of the U.S. Army Special Forces from 1961-63, and has completed over 8,000 skydiving jumps.

377

As I recall, from the Myers-Dvorak roast of Teddy, Ted's crimes
weren't as severe or hardened, as the labels imply. He said
himself he had poor legal representation, and even poorer
judgement at the time each of his socalled 'crimes' occurred.

If I recall this correctly, the Criminal Negligent Homicide
conviction for which he served actual time, was a negligence
charge after the fact... after one of Ted's students or a client
at his sky diving school, plunged to his death in a chute Teddy
had packed, or failed to check ... or something like that. It was
a criminal negligence charge vs. an overt criminal act on Ted's
part. It apparently hit Teddy hard at the time resulting in his
school being closed... and him serving time. Years later he was
a successful Mayor of his community etc.

Ted's life (and deeds) do not add up to the wholesale hardened
criminal type Myers and Dvorak were contending ... not by a
long shot. And part of his history was ordinary bad luck.

He was also pretty high profile in the Portland area as far as publicity and his parachute club, etc. in the mid 60s to early 70s. Lots of hits on him in sky diving competitions, meets, shows, clubs. Also multiple hits on close calls and ending up in the hospital and/or injuries. Crashing and landing in power lines and such.

Got in trouble with FAA later years over pilot license and not following the rules. I think he kinda sorta lied about getting clearance. I'd have to look at dates but I think his school had like 13 deaths in 22 years of operation. I don't know - that seems like a lot to me and smacks of playing real loose with the ol safety rules - but my frame of reference is that one is probably too many
Seems like he bounces back after every legal type encounter though. Not sure about his musculoskeletal system though. That tends to be less forgiving as the years move forward
Im no apologist for Teddy - everything 77 and you say is true.
He could easily have been sentenced to 3+ years on the
negligent homicide charge alone. It's his unusual history that
Myers and Dvorak sunk their hooks into, alleging lies and cover
ups on Teddy's part, which might have ben true. But it still
didn't add up to him being DB Cooper and he apparently failed
specific tests.

Compare him to Duane or Christiansen in terms of qualifications
!!

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377

*********Back to the skyjacking....

.....

Also, I think Mayfield's jump school was in Vancouver, Washington, too. Interesting, eh?

Teddy Mayfield obviouly wasnt the jumper but the crime sure fits. He was a convicted ARMED ROBBER. That's a long way from picking pockets and stealing Kool Aid as far as big crime goes. OJ's armed robbery conviction comes to mind. He was just collecting his property from some thugs who stole it. Ask him.

From Sluggos site: Court records in Oregon show Mayfield has various convictions, including an armed robbery just prior to the D. B. Cooper heist, transportation of a stolen plane across state lines, and Criminal Negligent Homicide, for which he served 5 months in prison. Mayfield states that he has over 50 years experience flying airplanes, is a former member of the U.S. Army Special Forces from 1961-63, and has completed over 8,000 skydiving jumps.

377

As I recall, from the Myers-Dvorak roast of Teddy, Ted's crimes
weren't as severe or hardened, as the labels imply. He said
himself he had poor legal representation!

If I recall this correctly, the Criminal Negligent Homicide
conviction for which he served actual time, was a negligence
charge after the fact... after one of Ted's students or a client
as his sky diving school, plunged to his death in a chute Teddy
had packed ... or something like that. It was a criminal
negligence charge vs. an overt criminal act on Ted's part. It
apparently hit Teddy hard at the time resulting in his school
being closed... and him serving time. Years later he was the
Mayor his community etc.

Ted's life (and deeds) do not add up to the wholesale hardened
criminal type Myers and Dvorak were contending ... not by a
long shot. And part of his history was ordinary bad luck.

Trust me Georger. If Teddy was convicted of armed robbery it was more than ordinary bad luck. Convicted felons usually have a story about incompetent lawyers and lying witnesses.

A number of deaths occurred at Mayfield's DZ allegedly due to his negligence. It's not murder, I'll give you that. It's not an intentional killing of another person, but it evidences a callous disregard for the life of someone who has put their trust in you, a student skydiver.

I did talk to a person who claimed to have been a first hand witness to Ted's DZ operations for student jumpers. He said the gear was obviously unsafe and Mayfield used it anyway.

I wasn't there. My info is hearsay. But don't be an apologist for Mayfield.
Big diff between armed robbery and stealing Kool Aid.

377

Yeah...I think you summed it up pretty well.....

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19950213&slug=2104806

His excuse was that skydiving is a risky sport. Yeah, it probably is...but so is going to church...if you get there by driving the wrong way down a one-way street at 95 miles per hour while drunk, blindfolded, and texting.

but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill

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Hard to figure why Mayfield provided obviously unsafe gear to his DZ patrons. The consequences are severe and so very foreseeable. I just don't get it. Sure, one gear mistake can happen to anyone, but there was a pattern here. How sad that lives were lost.

It's a dangerous sport even with safe gear and airworthy jumpships.
You start cutting corners on either and really bad things can and do happen.

377

2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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377

Hard to figure why Mayfield provided obviously unsafe gear to his DZ patrons. The consequences are severe and so very foreseeable. I just don't get it. Sure, one gear mistake can happen to anyone, but there was a pattern here. How sad that lives were lost.

It's a dangerous sport even with safe gear and airworthy jumpships.
You start cutting corners on either and really bad things can and do happen.

377

On the reverse side, Cooper might have known or heard of
Ted ? Drew inspiration from him?

[quite obviously Duane did! ]

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smokin99

So here's Mayfield at a "tracking" competition. From Oregonian November 26, 1965.
He says they would "dive straight down from 10,500 feet to terminal velocity of about 220 miles per hour. Then tuck forward into a bent over position as if about to go off a diving board. This creates an airfoil like the wing of an airplane with reduced differential pressure on your back which shoots you forward at up to 90 miles an hour". He and a partner tracked in opposite directions about a 2 miles in 55 seconds while falling about 200 mules an hour with smoke coming out of their heels
I guess a Cooper jump would have been small potatoes.

Smokin, note that in your attached picture, Mayfield is wearing a mid-1960s era skydiving rig that has the ripcord mounted on the right side of the harness with a RIGHT hand pull off to the right side.

One of Cossey's parachutes supplied to Cooper allegedly had the ripcord also mounted on the right side of the harness but with a LEFT hand pull off to the left.

Robert99

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skyjack71

***

But I can't stomach her deceptions and manipulative behaviors. I experience her as a bully in skirts, and I think it is important to stand up to her.

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That said, it is clear to me that Jo is unable and unwilling to answer any of my Cooper concerns directly, ie: who is Robbie Clampett and how did she get Tina's address.

His posting above has been reduced for the sake of time and energy.

Can't believe I actually called this bully to ask him a question & then came to the computer & found this ludicrous posting.


Well, if you think I am going to answer your questions only for you to twist the facts - got another guess coming! I have answered both questions in the past so they do NOT deserve to be re-addressed. Brucie do you know how to read & comprehend.

Why don't you ask Galen - he knows and I have the emails to prove it - but there is no need.

Cook is the sneaky snake in the grass, and he has used his ablility to manuver and confuse and he has really done a number on you Brucie

Brucie is the SHARK - how well he just describe himself!

Dangerous not me - Brucie twists things & make all kinds of notations about the mental status of others. He is the one with a problem - A bullie who never grew up and is only self-serving with smear tactics.

Actions such as yours Brucie! I call it the way I see and hear it...and anyone who reads your postings can see right thru you.

Regretfully I did call him a few moments ago to ask if there was a picture of this Brad Collins on his site or taken by any one at Ariel.

Why should I apologize to BRUCIE when he continues to demean, twist and demand answers to questions I have already answered in the only way I am willing to. I am NOT going to make-up an answer for him.

He has never apologize about Tina or to Tina for his horrid actions. Yet, he wants me to apologize to him. Cold day in Hell!

How would I do bodily harm to a giant with the manners of a bull in a china closet?

HIS ATTACKS need to stop NOW!
He thinks his words have power and his words only make him VERY SMALL! He has a brilliant mind and the ability to write - but, he is self serving - always putting his own twisted thoughts and sordid opinions into the what otherwise was a good informative paragraph or writing and in his postings.


So much for the promise of a written apology to be posted here, Jo, regarding your stated desires to cause me bodily harm and sue me in court.

Yup, Mrs Cooper called me tonight, but before she could ask her question I insisted that she promise to post an apology. It seems that she was unable to fulfill her stated promise.

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I am reviewing an old planner I only kept part of. This was interesting and something I long ago shelved because NO one believed anything I said.

On Monday Feb 7th 2000, Garrison Lewis contacted me - the was the attorney for Jowers. His life had been threatened and the FBI would NOT do anything. Noted he is 67 (at that time) and very nice.

This was not about Cooper, but about my searching into the things Duane and his ex told me.

I was enquiring about a John Collins and what he looked like. John Collins did come up in those hearings but John Collins has been erased from all of the King files that I later researched. John Collins was provided another name - a few yrs later, but there was a JOHN COLLINS connected to Ray - THOSE files have now been altered.

THIS notation is from Feb. 7th of 2000. Actual conversation with Garrison. Note I had NOT mentioned nor discussed D.B. Cooper.

He talked about the GRILL and the old hotel. During the trial it came out that in 68 or 69 a man from Atlanta called a LOS ANGELES HOTEL where James Earl Ray was training as a bartender after plastic surgery - the caller gave his name as COLLINS.

Mr Garrison is going to speak with MR. JOWERS and see if he will talk to me.
Mr. Jowers did NOT agree to speak with me.

BUT there was a JOHN COLLINS in the files in 2000 - now the name of the person calling the place Ray was training as a Bartender - they gave him another name!

In MAR 2000 - I make a note to Duane about an angel on my shoulder. I state I am sorry I didn't listen to him and that he didn't trust me and wished I could give him a kiss and a hug. In other words I am expressing regrets for NOT have understood the things he told me about his life...and digested more of what he told me about his life.

Noted that Duane didn't want me to see certain programs on TV or certain books - NOW in retrospect I remember his, but that was 14 yrs ago I wrote that - I have shelved a lot of the life we spent together and until this moment - I had push that back into the mind. He made sure I didn't read certain books or watch certain programs - NOW I know WHY, but until this moment I had forgotten all about that. Because of the nature of our work when the programs were on we were usually working (evenings) and I never ever watched daytime TV.

March 22, 2000 Package arrived from Duane's brother. NO WAY the FBI could deny Duane was in the ARMY!

John had sent me the papers from his mother's files.

WE had the FBI in a pickle - now they are saying they had one of the army numbers wrong - yet for 4 & 1/2 yrs they had told me WEBER was never in the ARMY.

NOW do you guys believe me. It is all here in the files! ALL of it! THE deception of the FBI regarding this and the altering of other files!

April 4th 2000 - I am crying and my heart hurts for Duane and why the FBI lied to me and WHY did it take the brother's record and myself to confront the FBI's so called investigation of Duane.
THE FBI didn't have the serial number wrong - that was just an excuse.

April 7th 2000 - a man who I had been put intouch with to do a book (note this is after I confronted the FBI in March of 2000) - this man wanted to do it his way - and I refused to lie for a BOOK WRITER to make an impact....I told him where to go!

May 15 2000 - Package arrives, but I don't understand or remember what it was about other than it concerned a place called Columbia Camp.

August 2000 - the night Clerk has contacted Margie - but I thought the article was done in 2001 - I must be wrong. No more noted for the yr 2000 in the planner - but I didn't keep it all.

Anyone remember when Margie Boule ran the article - was it 2000 - I guess so. The yrs are running together now. I have to tell all I know.

I cannot hold back anything.
Glad I kept the pages, because the part about Jower I had shelved in my memory and at that time the calller / man was referred to as Collins and now history has changed the man's name.

BUT I have it written down on the day of the phone conversation - I knew I did NOT imagine it as others later on told me there WAS no Collins who ever called Ray - suddenly the name became another name in later written articles and I stopped arguing about it!

NO I am NOT CRAZY - I kept the notes - THANK YOU GOD! Would an esteemed attorney lie to me on the phone about something so important - I don't think so. Before when I tried to tell this to people - the attorney I believe had died - but I STILL have my damn NOTES - I forgot I made these and kept them. LIFE just went on and time erases things - but paper sticks around a little longer than the memory.

Even in the Unsolved Mysteries or some other communications about the KING assinations - I wonder if I had imagined all of this - I was accused of lieing - but it is here and that means there is an old new article someplace that mentions the man calling by the name of Collins.

LATER no one seemed to know anything about this - but, like so many thing - I just let it go.

I was under the impression if I persisted in the King thing that NO one would ever believe me about Cooper....I was actual told NOT to talk about this.

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RobertMBlevins

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Smokin, note that in your attached picture, Mayfield is wearing a mid-1960s era skydiving rig that has the ripcord mounted on the right side of the harness with a RIGHT hand pull off to the right side.

One of Cossey's parachutes supplied to Cooper allegedly had the ripcord also mounted on the right side of the harness but with a LEFT hand pull off to the left.

Robert99

True enough. But then those particular parachutes did not COME from Cossey, did they? They were sent by the actual owner...Norman Hayden, via cab driver. Maybe someone should ask him about it. He would probably remember where the pull was located and whether the pull was right or left. I'm going to guess that the pull on chute-not-found-yet was probably identical to the one given to the WSHM, but that's strictly a guess.

Blevins, Exactly what do your comments have to do with my pointing out the ripcord location on the parachute Mayfield was wearing in Smokin's attachment?

Robert99

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Jo wrote

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August 2000 - the night Clerk has contacted Margie - but I thought the article was done in 2001 - I must be wrong. No more noted for the yr 2000 in the planner - but I didn't keep it all.

What ever became of the Night Clerk Jo?

377

2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

[BruceSmith 3]

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"...As I recall, from the Myers-Dvorak roast of Teddy, Ted's crimes
weren't as severe or hardened, as the labels imply. He said
himself he had poor legal representation!

If I recall this correctly, the Criminal Negligent Homicide
conviction for which he served actual time, was a negligence
charge after the fact... after one of Ted's students or a client
as his sky diving school, plunged to his death in a chute Teddy
had packed ... or something like that. It was a criminal
negligence charge vs. an overt criminal act on Ted's part. It
apparently hit Teddy hard at the time resulting in his school
being closed... and him serving time. Years later he was the
Mayor his community etc.

Ted's life (and deeds) do not add up to the wholesale hardened
criminal type Myers and Dvorak were contending ... not by a
long shot. And part of his history was ordinary bad luck.

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From 377
Trust me Georger. If Teddy was convicted of armed robbery it was more than ordinary bad luck. Convicted felons usually have a story about incompetent lawyers and lying witnesses.

A number of deaths occurred at Mayfield's DZ allegedly due to his negligence. It's not murder, I'll give you that. It's not an intentional killing of another person, but it evidences a callous disregard for the life of someone who has put their trust in you, a student skydiver.

I did talk to a person who claimed to have been a first hand witness to Ted's DZ operations for student jumpers. He said the gear was obviously unsafe and Mayfield used it anyway.

I wasn't there. My info is hearsay. But don't be an apologist for Mayfield.
Big diff between armed robbery and stealing Kool Aid.

377

More on Mayfield: The following is from my chapter on Ted.


"...However, one early suspect has lingered to this day, Ted Mayfield, who enjoyed a revival in 2006 when two Oregonian sleuths, Matt Meyers and Dan Dvorak drew sharp attention to Mayfield’s profile:
Ted is a former Special Forces trooper, sky diving champion and pilot. He also owned a sky diving school, Pacific Parachuting Center, and has an impressive history of committing crimes in the aviation field, including convictions on two counts of negligent homicide stemming from the deaths of two of his skydiving students.

He was also found guilty of transporting a stolen airplane across state lines; plus he lost his parachute rigging certificate from the FAA for packing improprieties in 1994. In 2010, Mayfield got snagged again for flying without a proper license.

Mayfield is also reported to have a conviction for armed robbery.

Most troubling, though is the report that Mayfield’s Pacific Parachuting school had thirteen skydiving fatalities during his tenure.

Like Meyers and Dvorak, I have also explored the Mayfield story.

According to Ralph Himmelsbach, Ted Mayfield had been such a bad egg in the sky diving community that he was allegedly fingered as Cooper by six different callers to the FBI on the night of the Cooper hijacking. In fact, notes from NWO’s George Harrison sitting in Sea-Tac’s control tower reveal that Mayfield was fingered while the plane was still on its way to Reno.

More impressively, Mayfield was already well-known to Himmelsbach prior to the skyjacking because Ralph had a “run-in” with some of Mayfield’s skydiving staff at the Aurora State Airport.

This small airport southeast of Portland is where Himmelsbach parked his private plane, and at issue was the failure of Mayfield’s people to comply with proper procedures and causing unsafe conditions.

Astonishingly, Mayfield called Himmelsbach the night of the skyjacking to offer his assistance while 305 was still in the air, making Himmelsbach, in effect, his alibi.

Himmelsbach seems to accept his role in Mayfield’s story, and the agent also turned to Mayfield for some level of assistance in the Cooper investigation. In his book NORJAK, Ralph praised Mayfield for being “most helpful” although it is not quite clear what contributions Mayfield made to the FBI. However, Himmelsbach does describe Mayfield as assisting him in identifying certain skydivers being put forward as Cooper suspects, and specifically states that Mayfield was helpful for his “comments that night, and other conversations we had later when he assisted us in the investigation.”

I was curious to learn more how a suspect this problematic could also be instrumental in helping the FBI. Why would Ralph maintain a relationship with an ex-con like Mayfield, particularly since he had already had bad business with him?

Seeking answers, I called Mayfield at his Oregon home in November 2009. However, when I identified myself and explained the purpose of my phone call he hung up on me, but not before saying, “No thanks. I always get wracked over the coals every time I do that.”

Digging more deeply I interviewed a local skydiving administrator, Bill Jeswine, the former manager of the Issaquah Sky Sports center where the reserve chutes for Cooper originated. Jeswine told me in 2013 that he was summoned to help run the Pacific Parachuting Center when Mayfield went to jail, and he described the conditions at the facility as “horrible.”

But the comparisons between Mayfield and Cooper are all behavioral. Physically, Mayfield is too short and seems to have little of the Cooper characteristics. His attitude is so pugnacious that in YouTube clips he walks with a strut reminiscent of Danny DeVito. In addition, Mayfield was in his twenties at the time of the skyjacking – much too young to be Cooper.

Perhaps Ted Mayfield has been buffeted by the Cooper Vortex long enough that he now chooses to decline its embrace...."

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RobertMBlevins

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Smokin, note that in your attached picture, Mayfield is wearing a mid-1960s era skydiving rig that has the ripcord mounted on the right side of the harness with a RIGHT hand pull off to the right side.

One of Cossey's parachutes supplied to Cooper allegedly had the ripcord also mounted on the right side of the harness but with a LEFT hand pull off to the left.

Robert99

True enough. But then those particular parachutes did not COME from Cossey, did they? They were sent by the actual owner...Norman Hayden, via cab driver. Maybe someone should ask him about it. He would probably remember where the pull was located and whether the pull was right or left. I'm going to guess that the pull on chute-not-found-yet was probably identical to the one given to the WSHM, but that's strictly a guess.

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Blevins, Exactly what do your comments have to do with my pointing out the ripcord location on the parachute Mayfield was wearing in Smokin's attachment?

Robert99

This:

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'One of Cossey's parachutes supplied to Cooper...'

They weren't Cossey's. They were Hayden's and it was Hayden who even arranged the delivery. I have to remind people of this small fact occasionally. That's all.

Read the title of 99's post: Mayfield and Jumping Jack Cash.

What does Hayden and Cossey chutes have to do with Mayfield
and pulls on Mayfield's chutes ... or other WWII chutes?

Please post on topic?

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RobertMBlevins

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Smokin, note that in your attached picture, Mayfield is wearing a mid-1960s era skydiving rig that has the ripcord mounted on the right side of the harness with a RIGHT hand pull off to the right side.

One of Cossey's parachutes supplied to Cooper allegedly had the ripcord also mounted on the right side of the harness but with a LEFT hand pull off to the left.

Robert99

True enough. But then those particular parachutes did not COME from Cossey, did they? They were sent by the actual owner...Norman Hayden, via cab driver. Maybe someone should ask him about it. He would probably remember where the pull was located and whether the pull was right or left. I'm going to guess that the pull on chute-not-found-yet was probably identical to the one given to the WSHM, but that's strictly a guess.

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Blevins, Exactly what do your comments have to do with my pointing out the ripcord location on the parachute Mayfield was wearing in Smokin's attachment?

Robert99

Only this:

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'One of Cossey's parachutes supplied to Cooper...'

They weren't Cossey's. They were Hayden's and it was Hayden who even arranged the delivery. I have to remind people of this small fact occasionally. That's all.

why! ?

its off the topic R99 was addressing?

Got any opins on the Jimmy Bob Jones ministry?

[skyjack71 0]

I told you I refused to apologize regarding a reference to me sueing you as I did NOT remember saying that.

Then I get off the phone and low and behold what do I find - you had made another post demeaning me and with more of your tales!

TIME to stop your actions. It is obvious you are the one with the problem and not me.

It has kindly and correctly been explained to you by others that you are the one who OWES many individuals an apology for your obtuse manners.

Frankly I think Blevins did an excellent job of pointing this out to you!

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RobertMBlevins

Geez, Bruce. How about an apology from YOU to the Dormuth family out in Shelton? Or maybe one from ME to Smokin99 for dumb comments made a few months back. (Actually, I think I did that. But if I didn't, I apologize.)

Don't you get it why no one wants to answer your questions? Because you (sometimes, not ALWAYS) take the low road when people won't answer your questions. I told you a long time back that if you kept this up, you'd start running out of people who would answer your questions.

You understand of course that your article about the Dormuths' (retired FBI agent married to Tina Mucklow's sister) caused them to completely shut out EVERYONE on questions regarding Tina, or the Cooper case in general? They won't speak to anyone now. You did that, my friend. Did you apologize to them? Did you alter that article as I suggested?

My guess is no on both.

When Lee Dormuth or his wife ask for an apology I will give it due consideration.

As for your accusation that the Dormuths clammed up because of my alleged bad behavior, what's your proof? What interviews were they giving to journalists before I knocked on their door and then wrote about Lee's need for dental care?

Rather, I think you perceived a weak spot in my public standing and then took advantage to deliver a cheap shot.

As for the Dormuths' behavior, consider this:

1. Lee lied to me about the nature of his relationship with Tina. I know it is active and not passive because I know that he reads her mail.

2. Lee told me that he has no interest in Tina and "wants no part of it." I find that unconscionable. His sister in law is a raging recluse and clearly needs all the familial support she can get.

3. Lee did not return repeated phone calls to me before I walked up to his front door. I think he has a responsiblity to society and all taxpayers to communicate on a case that he is intimately familiar with. After all, we paid him - and continue to pay him in a pension - to deliver a measure of justice. I don't think he is keeping his end of the bargain.

Hence, I think I am entitled to an apology from a former civil servant who feels he has a right to deceive and keep silent in his retirement. I say no.

What say you, Robert?