snowmman 3 #5276 November 21, 2008 QuoteJamey's quote makes it sound like the cops demanded 1 bad chute and 3 good ones. 377 yes that's one part that's wrong, right. Read it a couple of times. There's a lot of wrongness. I can't understand it. I mostly want to know what a Type 226 is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #5277 November 21, 2008 Yeah, Jamey's account appears wrong in many details, like none of the rigs having reserve D rings. I too have looked for what a Pioneer 226 rig is with no luck. Have you queried Poynter? If the model number makes sense he would know for sure. I received training in both the no cutaway, no reserve pilot chute method and later, Capewell cutaway and reserve with pilot chute. The latter sure felt safer. Two rounds out was not a big deal, saw a lot of it when students forgot to shut off their early model Sentinel AAD after their main opened. Two squares out is scary as hell. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowmman 3 #5278 November 21, 2008 QuoteYeah, Jamey's account appears wrong in many details, like none of the rigs having reserve D rings. I too have looked for what a Pioneer 226 rig is with no luck. Have you queried Poynter? If the model number makes sense he would know for sure. on the other hand, back in 1997, Jamey posted, and is probably correct (since we know it was a 28' round), that Cooper jumped with an unmodified C-9. I had been wondering if there were any panel mods. Someone suggested a double L back then, but Jamey shot it down. Someone else had suggested that it was likely, in those times, that a C-9 would be modified. Interestingly another poster claimed Issaquah was "the happening sport DZ" back in the day. Issaquah was only 20 minutes from Seatac. Cooper only mentioned McChord=20 minutes after McChord was mentioned to him. I wonder if Cooper knew about Issaquah. as whuffo or non-whuffo. It's funny no one has mentioned that the good chest reserve may have been unpacked to check for tampering. (beacon or other). i.e. check something that appears "good"..that they think you'll take. If it looks good, then you can guess the rest are good/untampered. You wouldn't want to unpack the thing you actually use (back NB6) because you don't want to repack. So you check something that's good. (especially if you're panicking that they're all bad cause one is obviously bad!) Just a thought. A plausible scenario. I shouldn't bother mentioning it because Cooper's exact thinking in this area has already been identified. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orange1 0 #5279 November 21, 2008 Quote Can't find a Duane Weber mask anywhere. Proof postive that the FBI is engaged in a coverup. 377 Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowmman 3 #5280 November 22, 2008 Jo, in the past you posted that the gentleman in China was in a very rural area, therefore had difficulty getting to a notary. Quote I contacted the clerk to see if he was ill. I do not call China - I e-mailed him and it may be a few days before I hear from him. He is in a very rural area of China. It's odd to be "very rural" yet still have email access? In other post, you posted an email from him that was interesting. It included the word "firefight". You can repost that if you like. Also, in another post, I just noticed that apparently he has an ex-wife and a current wife. The ex-wife you said supports his story. Was she "wife" while at Rodeway Inn? You mentioned talking to a supporting wife on the phone during the first contact around 2001. Was this the ex-wife? When did she become ex-wife? You also mention a recently current wife. Supposedly the night clerk was in OR and WA for a short time, you mentioned Portland, but he was unable to travel to Seattle to talk to FBI. Apparently in-USA for both health reasons and to handle citizenship issues for the new wife. Is the new wife Chinese? Do you have a year for this marriage? And then you mention the return to China to fulfill a "contract" as a teacher. Was the position as an English teacher? I'm wondering how a 27 year old Rodeway Inn night clerk became skilled in something such that China would be interested in him teaching. The most likely thing would be simple skills like English. I know these are a lot of questions. Feel free to answer as you like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 247 #5281 November 22, 2008 QuoteJo, in the past you posted that the gentleman in China was in a very rural area, therefore had difficulty getting to a notary. Quote I contacted the clerk to see if he was ill. I do not call China - I e-mailed him and it may be a few days before I hear from him. He is in a very rural area of China. Reply: Wouldnt it be interesting if someone who has direct access to the current Chinese Ambassador was reading this, like the son of the former Chnese Ambassador. Stop the crap!? Georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5282 November 22, 2008 QuoteYeah, Jamey's account Reply: where is this Jamey who has firsthand knowledge, student of Cossey who was there in person when the patrol showed up for the chutes - without Cossey knowing? Cossey is still available. He was talked to just last week. Hmmmmmmm. Not saying I know something. Just saying "where is Jamey" ? Who is Jamey? Would Cossey remember "Jamey"? How come nobody I know ever heard of Jamey? How come nobody I know who know many others never heard of Jamey? Let Jamey surface. There might be money in it for him! Next topic: placard. When Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too. Georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #5283 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteYeah, Jamey's account Reply: where is this Jamey who has firsthand knowledge, student of Cossey who was there in person when the patrol showed up for the chutes - without Cossey knowing? Cossey is still available. He was talked to just last week. Hmmmmmmm. Not saying I know something. Just saying "where is Jamey" ? Who is Jamey? Would Cossey remember "Jamey"? How come nobody I know ever heard of Jamey? How come nobody I know who know many others never heard of Jamey? Let Jamey surface. There might be money in it for him! Next topic: placard. When Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too. Georger Good point Georger. I have some snaps from the video that included Hicks, that showed a placard. There is another video with another placard. I always wondered if all the pictures we have of placards are really recreations. Do you know if the actual placard found is the one in the video, or just the one in the FBI-provided snapshot. It would be nice if you posted a picture of what you think the placard is/was, if we're going to start a placard discussion? ps. from one whuffo to another. If you don't know Jamey, then most of the other folk here are laughing at you. At least I know when they're laughing at me, I figure, say a little more than 50% of the time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #5284 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteJo, in the past you posted that the gentleman in China was in a very rural area, therefore had difficulty getting to a notary. Quote I contacted the clerk to see if he was ill. I do not call China - I e-mailed him and it may be a few days before I hear from him. He is in a very rural area of China. Reply: Wouldnt it be interesting if someone who has direct access to the current Chinese Ambassador was reading this, like the son of the former Chnese Ambassador. Stop the crap!? Georger son? I suddenly understood I had a unrealized bias when I found ltdiver apparently is not male? Possibly cat? At least that's my current guess. maybe ltdiver can confirm (or not). Why not daughter of Chinese ambassador? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5285 November 22, 2008 All this cryptic Chinese Ambassador stuff is over my head. Would somebody care to explain? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5286 November 22, 2008 QuoteWhen Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too If Hicks found a bunch of the Cooper money what are the chances he'd report it and turn it over? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjack71 0 #5287 November 22, 2008 I did a really brave or foolish thing today - will have to wait to see what comes is. As for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #5288 November 22, 2008 Quote Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. my daugher? That sweet young thing on the floor of the Cessna was no daugher of mine. You have incorrectly invoked Godwin's Law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law The correct invocation: "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." Crawl under a rock? Isn't this thread a pretty good approximation of said destination? Or where now brown cow? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #5289 November 22, 2008 Your inclusion of references to rape and murder of young people, to add emotion to an argument that has nothing to do with such things, belittles those who suffer from the actual events you include. I realize my offhand remark did the same thing, and I apologize. I do overreact sometimes at your attempts to control people's thoughts. This is just a forum. This is not life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Orange1 0 #5290 November 22, 2008 QuoteAs for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. Ooh, very defensive there Jo. It's not like Snow is a tabloid reporter wanting to splash intimate details in the national press, and in fact I thought his questions were very interesting. How DOES a 27-year old night clerk become qualified enough to get a teaching position in a foreign country? "All goes to the credibility of the witness, your honor." (is that also the correct term for addressing a US judge?!) From Snow: QuoteYour inclusion of references to rape and murder of young people, to add emotion to an argument that has nothing to do with such things, belittles those who suffer from the actual events you include. Well said. (And Jo has the temerity to complain about being made "sick to the stomach"...) Jo, just because you want it to be the end of the night clerk subject, doesn't mean it is. Sorry. If you are going to present dodgy witnesses, well, don't be surprised when people become cynical about their "evidence". You may be prepared to overlook things that don't add up because he's told you what he wants to hear, don't expect others to do the same. I can understand exactly wht the FBI is not exactly falling over itself to track this guy down, why can't you??Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5291 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteYeah, Jamey's account Reply: where is this Jamey who has firsthand knowledge, student of Cossey who was there in person when the patrol showed up for the chutes - without Cossey knowing? Cossey is still available. He was talked to just last week. Hmmmmmmm. Not saying I know something. Just saying "where is Jamey" ? Who is Jamey? Would Cossey remember "Jamey"? How come nobody I know ever heard of Jamey? How come nobody I know who know many others never heard of Jamey? Let Jamey surface. There might be money in it for him! Next topic: placard. When Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too. Georger Good point Georger. I have some snaps from the video that included Hicks, that showed a placard. There is another video with another placard. I always wondered if all the pictures we have of placards are really recreations. Do you know if the actual placard found is the one in the video, or just the one in the FBI-provided snapshot. It would be nice if you posted a picture of what you think the placard is/was, if we're going to start a placard discussion? ps. from one whuffo to another. If you don't know Jamey, then most of the other folk here are laughing at you. At least I know when they're laughing at me, I figure, say a little more than 50% of the time. Reply- The only photo I have the placard is the FBI photo, a piddling little thing. The worst of this is I had a chance to get a big photo of one of these standard issue 727 placards off a Peidmont site years ago, and I forgot and never saved the photo. Typical (of me). as for people laughing, let them, but I doubt it. There are people here who would love to question Jamey further. I am probably the least of these. There are some very smart people here with a ton of experience .......... Christ Im sounding like Jo!..... ............. I seriously doubt I am the only one who wants more from Jamey ... whatever. Georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5292 November 22, 2008 QuoteThis is just a forum. This is not life. A G R E E. 101%. Can I get a witness? No Marvin, not if he's in China. Can't we all just get along? No Rodney, not here. In fact, this is a subprime forum, but ya gotta love it. Lunatics, geniuses and a few regular folks. For the most part, there is a strange unconventional harmony, somehow pleasing in its atonal chaos and intellectual entropy. When Cooper is finally ID'd and the forum shuts down, I hope we all have rich lives that will fill the void. Peace, 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5293 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteJo, in the past you posted that the gentleman in China was in a very rural area, therefore had difficulty getting to a notary. Quote I contacted the clerk to see if he was ill. I do not call China - I e-mailed him and it may be a few days before I hear from him. He is in a very rural area of China. Daughter of son of uncle of Chinese Ambassador.. ahhhhhhhhhhh, grandmother of mother of son of ... matrilineal! We can have that clerk and his ox at the airport in 24 hrs! Georger Reply: Wouldnt it be interesting if someone who has direct access to the current Chinese Ambassador was reading this, like the son of the former Chnese Ambassador. Stop the crap!? Georger son? I suddenly understood I had a unrealized bias when I found ltdiver apparently is not male? Possibly cat? At least that's my current guess. maybe ltdiver can confirm (or not). Why not daughter of Chinese ambassador? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5294 November 22, 2008 Are any US scheduled airlines still flying passengers in 727s? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5295 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhen Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too If Hicks found a bunch of the Cooper money what are the chances he'd report it and turn it over? Reply - or the others who searched the area? Probably the same chance others have had. Why? Are you going out to look? G. 377 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites happythoughts 0 #5296 November 22, 2008 November 24th is coming up and, I'm betting, a book media release on the anniversary. That will be new and interesting. Here? Another episode of "The Secret Witness doing Secret Things that can't be known because of The Coverup". ... blah, blah, blah... blah blah. We should all give it a try. Someone, go ahead, beg me to tell you about The Big Secret Something. I remember the old drive-in movies when they had $3 a carload for the Wednesday night kung-fu flicks. Eventually, you realized that they weren't new movies, they just dubbed in different words. Quote Forums: Search Results Click here to find out more! Your search for knapsack returned 74 results in 0.044s. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5297 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhen Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too If Hicks found a bunch of the Cooper money what are the chances he'd report it and turn it over? Reply - or the others who searched the area? Probably the same chance others have had. Why? Are you going out to look? G. 377 No, just wondering if the some or all of the missing money has been found and kept. Few, I think, would turn it in if they thought they could spend it undetected. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5298 November 22, 2008 QuoteI did a really brave or foolish thing today - will have to wait to see what comes is. As for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. Reply> What rape and murder? I thought we were discussing the DB Cooper case? Is there something about Duane you haven't shared? Are you hiding evidence? Don't jump on Snowmman! I'm the one who brought this up. U-bettcha! Why are you broking for the Night Clerk if he has legs and a brain and two wives et cetera. The only thing that surprises me is his job in China. Northern China. Mongolia? Tibet? Hell why not Mons Olympus on Mars or on the moon of Saturn called Titan!? I mean someplace really remote, like Pluto. The biggest problem the night clerk has (in this world), is you. The rest of us are just sitting like bees at a hive working away like it's an ordinary day bzzzz bzzz bzzzzz and you think its some secret code to the UFO invasion or something. Or did I trip another abduction memory? Georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5299 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteAs for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. Ooh, very defensive there Jo. It's not like Snow is a tabloid reporter wanting to splash intimate details in the national press, and in fact I thought his questions were very interesting. How DOES a 27-year old night clerk become qualified enough to get a teaching position in a foreign country? "All goes to the credibility of the witness, your honor." (is that also the correct term for addressing a US judge?!) From Snow: QuoteYour inclusion of references to rape and murder of young people, to add emotion to an argument that has nothing to do with such things, belittles those who suffer from the actual events you include. Well said. (And Jo has the temerity to complain about being made "sick to the stomach"...) Jo, just because you want it to be the end of the night clerk subject, doesn't mean it is. Sorry. If you are going to present dodgy witnesses, well, don't be surprised when people become cynical about their "evidence". You may be prepared to overlook things that don't add up because he's told you what he wants to hear, don't expect others to do the same. I can understand exactly wht the FBI is not exactly falling over itself to track this guy down, why can't you?? Reply: why? Because the initials scrawled on the back door of N467US behind where the placard was did not match any known alias of Duane Weber, or any of the other imposters. How's that for an opener to your Night Clerk, Jo? Your move. Georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #5300 November 22, 2008 Quote Reply: why? Because the initials scrawled on the back door of N467US behind where the placard was did not match any known alias of Duane Weber, or any of the other imposters. How's that for an opener to your Night Clerk, Jo? Your move. Georger ? Hey Georger now you got me all scratching my head. But I'm going to bed! 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georger 247 #5282 November 22, 2008 QuoteYeah, Jamey's account Reply: where is this Jamey who has firsthand knowledge, student of Cossey who was there in person when the patrol showed up for the chutes - without Cossey knowing? Cossey is still available. He was talked to just last week. Hmmmmmmm. Not saying I know something. Just saying "where is Jamey" ? Who is Jamey? Would Cossey remember "Jamey"? How come nobody I know ever heard of Jamey? How come nobody I know who know many others never heard of Jamey? Let Jamey surface. There might be money in it for him! Next topic: placard. When Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too. Georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #5283 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteYeah, Jamey's account Reply: where is this Jamey who has firsthand knowledge, student of Cossey who was there in person when the patrol showed up for the chutes - without Cossey knowing? Cossey is still available. He was talked to just last week. Hmmmmmmm. Not saying I know something. Just saying "where is Jamey" ? Who is Jamey? Would Cossey remember "Jamey"? How come nobody I know ever heard of Jamey? How come nobody I know who know many others never heard of Jamey? Let Jamey surface. There might be money in it for him! Next topic: placard. When Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too. Georger Good point Georger. I have some snaps from the video that included Hicks, that showed a placard. There is another video with another placard. I always wondered if all the pictures we have of placards are really recreations. Do you know if the actual placard found is the one in the video, or just the one in the FBI-provided snapshot. It would be nice if you posted a picture of what you think the placard is/was, if we're going to start a placard discussion? ps. from one whuffo to another. If you don't know Jamey, then most of the other folk here are laughing at you. At least I know when they're laughing at me, I figure, say a little more than 50% of the time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #5284 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteJo, in the past you posted that the gentleman in China was in a very rural area, therefore had difficulty getting to a notary. Quote I contacted the clerk to see if he was ill. I do not call China - I e-mailed him and it may be a few days before I hear from him. He is in a very rural area of China. Reply: Wouldnt it be interesting if someone who has direct access to the current Chinese Ambassador was reading this, like the son of the former Chnese Ambassador. Stop the crap!? Georger son? I suddenly understood I had a unrealized bias when I found ltdiver apparently is not male? Possibly cat? At least that's my current guess. maybe ltdiver can confirm (or not). Why not daughter of Chinese ambassador? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5285 November 22, 2008 All this cryptic Chinese Ambassador stuff is over my head. Would somebody care to explain? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5286 November 22, 2008 QuoteWhen Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too If Hicks found a bunch of the Cooper money what are the chances he'd report it and turn it over? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjack71 0 #5287 November 22, 2008 I did a really brave or foolish thing today - will have to wait to see what comes is. As for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #5288 November 22, 2008 Quote Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. my daugher? That sweet young thing on the floor of the Cessna was no daugher of mine. You have incorrectly invoked Godwin's Law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law The correct invocation: "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." Crawl under a rock? Isn't this thread a pretty good approximation of said destination? Or where now brown cow? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #5289 November 22, 2008 Your inclusion of references to rape and murder of young people, to add emotion to an argument that has nothing to do with such things, belittles those who suffer from the actual events you include. I realize my offhand remark did the same thing, and I apologize. I do overreact sometimes at your attempts to control people's thoughts. This is just a forum. This is not life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Orange1 0 #5290 November 22, 2008 QuoteAs for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. Ooh, very defensive there Jo. It's not like Snow is a tabloid reporter wanting to splash intimate details in the national press, and in fact I thought his questions were very interesting. How DOES a 27-year old night clerk become qualified enough to get a teaching position in a foreign country? "All goes to the credibility of the witness, your honor." (is that also the correct term for addressing a US judge?!) From Snow: QuoteYour inclusion of references to rape and murder of young people, to add emotion to an argument that has nothing to do with such things, belittles those who suffer from the actual events you include. Well said. (And Jo has the temerity to complain about being made "sick to the stomach"...) Jo, just because you want it to be the end of the night clerk subject, doesn't mean it is. Sorry. If you are going to present dodgy witnesses, well, don't be surprised when people become cynical about their "evidence". You may be prepared to overlook things that don't add up because he's told you what he wants to hear, don't expect others to do the same. I can understand exactly wht the FBI is not exactly falling over itself to track this guy down, why can't you??Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5291 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteYeah, Jamey's account Reply: where is this Jamey who has firsthand knowledge, student of Cossey who was there in person when the patrol showed up for the chutes - without Cossey knowing? Cossey is still available. He was talked to just last week. Hmmmmmmm. Not saying I know something. Just saying "where is Jamey" ? Who is Jamey? Would Cossey remember "Jamey"? How come nobody I know ever heard of Jamey? How come nobody I know who know many others never heard of Jamey? Let Jamey surface. There might be money in it for him! Next topic: placard. When Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too. Georger Good point Georger. I have some snaps from the video that included Hicks, that showed a placard. There is another video with another placard. I always wondered if all the pictures we have of placards are really recreations. Do you know if the actual placard found is the one in the video, or just the one in the FBI-provided snapshot. It would be nice if you posted a picture of what you think the placard is/was, if we're going to start a placard discussion? ps. from one whuffo to another. If you don't know Jamey, then most of the other folk here are laughing at you. At least I know when they're laughing at me, I figure, say a little more than 50% of the time. Reply- The only photo I have the placard is the FBI photo, a piddling little thing. The worst of this is I had a chance to get a big photo of one of these standard issue 727 placards off a Peidmont site years ago, and I forgot and never saved the photo. Typical (of me). as for people laughing, let them, but I doubt it. There are people here who would love to question Jamey further. I am probably the least of these. There are some very smart people here with a ton of experience .......... Christ Im sounding like Jo!..... ............. I seriously doubt I am the only one who wants more from Jamey ... whatever. Georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5292 November 22, 2008 QuoteThis is just a forum. This is not life. A G R E E. 101%. Can I get a witness? No Marvin, not if he's in China. Can't we all just get along? No Rodney, not here. In fact, this is a subprime forum, but ya gotta love it. Lunatics, geniuses and a few regular folks. For the most part, there is a strange unconventional harmony, somehow pleasing in its atonal chaos and intellectual entropy. When Cooper is finally ID'd and the forum shuts down, I hope we all have rich lives that will fill the void. Peace, 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5293 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteJo, in the past you posted that the gentleman in China was in a very rural area, therefore had difficulty getting to a notary. Quote I contacted the clerk to see if he was ill. I do not call China - I e-mailed him and it may be a few days before I hear from him. He is in a very rural area of China. Daughter of son of uncle of Chinese Ambassador.. ahhhhhhhhhhh, grandmother of mother of son of ... matrilineal! We can have that clerk and his ox at the airport in 24 hrs! Georger Reply: Wouldnt it be interesting if someone who has direct access to the current Chinese Ambassador was reading this, like the son of the former Chnese Ambassador. Stop the crap!? Georger son? I suddenly understood I had a unrealized bias when I found ltdiver apparently is not male? Possibly cat? At least that's my current guess. maybe ltdiver can confirm (or not). Why not daughter of Chinese ambassador? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5294 November 22, 2008 Are any US scheduled airlines still flying passengers in 727s? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5295 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhen Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too If Hicks found a bunch of the Cooper money what are the chances he'd report it and turn it over? Reply - or the others who searched the area? Probably the same chance others have had. Why? Are you going out to look? G. 377 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites happythoughts 0 #5296 November 22, 2008 November 24th is coming up and, I'm betting, a book media release on the anniversary. That will be new and interesting. Here? Another episode of "The Secret Witness doing Secret Things that can't be known because of The Coverup". ... blah, blah, blah... blah blah. We should all give it a try. Someone, go ahead, beg me to tell you about The Big Secret Something. I remember the old drive-in movies when they had $3 a carload for the Wednesday night kung-fu flicks. Eventually, you realized that they weren't new movies, they just dubbed in different words. Quote Forums: Search Results Click here to find out more! Your search for knapsack returned 74 results in 0.044s. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5297 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhen Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too If Hicks found a bunch of the Cooper money what are the chances he'd report it and turn it over? Reply - or the others who searched the area? Probably the same chance others have had. Why? Are you going out to look? G. 377 No, just wondering if the some or all of the missing money has been found and kept. Few, I think, would turn it in if they thought they could spend it undetected. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5298 November 22, 2008 QuoteI did a really brave or foolish thing today - will have to wait to see what comes is. As for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. Reply> What rape and murder? I thought we were discussing the DB Cooper case? Is there something about Duane you haven't shared? Are you hiding evidence? Don't jump on Snowmman! I'm the one who brought this up. U-bettcha! Why are you broking for the Night Clerk if he has legs and a brain and two wives et cetera. The only thing that surprises me is his job in China. Northern China. Mongolia? Tibet? Hell why not Mons Olympus on Mars or on the moon of Saturn called Titan!? I mean someplace really remote, like Pluto. The biggest problem the night clerk has (in this world), is you. The rest of us are just sitting like bees at a hive working away like it's an ordinary day bzzzz bzzz bzzzzz and you think its some secret code to the UFO invasion or something. Or did I trip another abduction memory? Georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5299 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteAs for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. Ooh, very defensive there Jo. It's not like Snow is a tabloid reporter wanting to splash intimate details in the national press, and in fact I thought his questions were very interesting. How DOES a 27-year old night clerk become qualified enough to get a teaching position in a foreign country? "All goes to the credibility of the witness, your honor." (is that also the correct term for addressing a US judge?!) From Snow: QuoteYour inclusion of references to rape and murder of young people, to add emotion to an argument that has nothing to do with such things, belittles those who suffer from the actual events you include. Well said. (And Jo has the temerity to complain about being made "sick to the stomach"...) Jo, just because you want it to be the end of the night clerk subject, doesn't mean it is. Sorry. If you are going to present dodgy witnesses, well, don't be surprised when people become cynical about their "evidence". You may be prepared to overlook things that don't add up because he's told you what he wants to hear, don't expect others to do the same. I can understand exactly wht the FBI is not exactly falling over itself to track this guy down, why can't you?? Reply: why? Because the initials scrawled on the back door of N467US behind where the placard was did not match any known alias of Duane Weber, or any of the other imposters. How's that for an opener to your Night Clerk, Jo? Your move. Georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #5300 November 22, 2008 Quote Reply: why? Because the initials scrawled on the back door of N467US behind where the placard was did not match any known alias of Duane Weber, or any of the other imposters. How's that for an opener to your Night Clerk, Jo? Your move. Georger ? Hey Georger now you got me all scratching my head. But I'm going to bed! 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snowmman 3 #5283 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteYeah, Jamey's account Reply: where is this Jamey who has firsthand knowledge, student of Cossey who was there in person when the patrol showed up for the chutes - without Cossey knowing? Cossey is still available. He was talked to just last week. Hmmmmmmm. Not saying I know something. Just saying "where is Jamey" ? Who is Jamey? Would Cossey remember "Jamey"? How come nobody I know ever heard of Jamey? How come nobody I know who know many others never heard of Jamey? Let Jamey surface. There might be money in it for him! Next topic: placard. When Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too. Georger Good point Georger. I have some snaps from the video that included Hicks, that showed a placard. There is another video with another placard. I always wondered if all the pictures we have of placards are really recreations. Do you know if the actual placard found is the one in the video, or just the one in the FBI-provided snapshot. It would be nice if you posted a picture of what you think the placard is/was, if we're going to start a placard discussion? ps. from one whuffo to another. If you don't know Jamey, then most of the other folk here are laughing at you. At least I know when they're laughing at me, I figure, say a little more than 50% of the time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #5284 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteJo, in the past you posted that the gentleman in China was in a very rural area, therefore had difficulty getting to a notary. Quote I contacted the clerk to see if he was ill. I do not call China - I e-mailed him and it may be a few days before I hear from him. He is in a very rural area of China. Reply: Wouldnt it be interesting if someone who has direct access to the current Chinese Ambassador was reading this, like the son of the former Chnese Ambassador. Stop the crap!? Georger son? I suddenly understood I had a unrealized bias when I found ltdiver apparently is not male? Possibly cat? At least that's my current guess. maybe ltdiver can confirm (or not). Why not daughter of Chinese ambassador? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5285 November 22, 2008 All this cryptic Chinese Ambassador stuff is over my head. Would somebody care to explain? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5286 November 22, 2008 QuoteWhen Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too If Hicks found a bunch of the Cooper money what are the chances he'd report it and turn it over? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjack71 0 #5287 November 22, 2008 I did a really brave or foolish thing today - will have to wait to see what comes is. As for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #5288 November 22, 2008 Quote Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. my daugher? That sweet young thing on the floor of the Cessna was no daugher of mine. You have incorrectly invoked Godwin's Law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law The correct invocation: "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." Crawl under a rock? Isn't this thread a pretty good approximation of said destination? Or where now brown cow? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #5289 November 22, 2008 Your inclusion of references to rape and murder of young people, to add emotion to an argument that has nothing to do with such things, belittles those who suffer from the actual events you include. I realize my offhand remark did the same thing, and I apologize. I do overreact sometimes at your attempts to control people's thoughts. This is just a forum. This is not life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Orange1 0 #5290 November 22, 2008 QuoteAs for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. Ooh, very defensive there Jo. It's not like Snow is a tabloid reporter wanting to splash intimate details in the national press, and in fact I thought his questions were very interesting. How DOES a 27-year old night clerk become qualified enough to get a teaching position in a foreign country? "All goes to the credibility of the witness, your honor." (is that also the correct term for addressing a US judge?!) From Snow: QuoteYour inclusion of references to rape and murder of young people, to add emotion to an argument that has nothing to do with such things, belittles those who suffer from the actual events you include. Well said. (And Jo has the temerity to complain about being made "sick to the stomach"...) Jo, just because you want it to be the end of the night clerk subject, doesn't mean it is. Sorry. If you are going to present dodgy witnesses, well, don't be surprised when people become cynical about their "evidence". You may be prepared to overlook things that don't add up because he's told you what he wants to hear, don't expect others to do the same. I can understand exactly wht the FBI is not exactly falling over itself to track this guy down, why can't you??Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5291 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteYeah, Jamey's account Reply: where is this Jamey who has firsthand knowledge, student of Cossey who was there in person when the patrol showed up for the chutes - without Cossey knowing? Cossey is still available. He was talked to just last week. Hmmmmmmm. Not saying I know something. Just saying "where is Jamey" ? Who is Jamey? Would Cossey remember "Jamey"? How come nobody I know ever heard of Jamey? How come nobody I know who know many others never heard of Jamey? Let Jamey surface. There might be money in it for him! Next topic: placard. When Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too. Georger Good point Georger. I have some snaps from the video that included Hicks, that showed a placard. There is another video with another placard. I always wondered if all the pictures we have of placards are really recreations. Do you know if the actual placard found is the one in the video, or just the one in the FBI-provided snapshot. It would be nice if you posted a picture of what you think the placard is/was, if we're going to start a placard discussion? ps. from one whuffo to another. If you don't know Jamey, then most of the other folk here are laughing at you. At least I know when they're laughing at me, I figure, say a little more than 50% of the time. Reply- The only photo I have the placard is the FBI photo, a piddling little thing. The worst of this is I had a chance to get a big photo of one of these standard issue 727 placards off a Peidmont site years ago, and I forgot and never saved the photo. Typical (of me). as for people laughing, let them, but I doubt it. There are people here who would love to question Jamey further. I am probably the least of these. There are some very smart people here with a ton of experience .......... Christ Im sounding like Jo!..... ............. I seriously doubt I am the only one who wants more from Jamey ... whatever. Georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5292 November 22, 2008 QuoteThis is just a forum. This is not life. A G R E E. 101%. Can I get a witness? No Marvin, not if he's in China. Can't we all just get along? No Rodney, not here. In fact, this is a subprime forum, but ya gotta love it. Lunatics, geniuses and a few regular folks. For the most part, there is a strange unconventional harmony, somehow pleasing in its atonal chaos and intellectual entropy. When Cooper is finally ID'd and the forum shuts down, I hope we all have rich lives that will fill the void. Peace, 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5293 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteJo, in the past you posted that the gentleman in China was in a very rural area, therefore had difficulty getting to a notary. Quote I contacted the clerk to see if he was ill. I do not call China - I e-mailed him and it may be a few days before I hear from him. He is in a very rural area of China. Daughter of son of uncle of Chinese Ambassador.. ahhhhhhhhhhh, grandmother of mother of son of ... matrilineal! We can have that clerk and his ox at the airport in 24 hrs! Georger Reply: Wouldnt it be interesting if someone who has direct access to the current Chinese Ambassador was reading this, like the son of the former Chnese Ambassador. Stop the crap!? Georger son? I suddenly understood I had a unrealized bias when I found ltdiver apparently is not male? Possibly cat? At least that's my current guess. maybe ltdiver can confirm (or not). Why not daughter of Chinese ambassador? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5294 November 22, 2008 Are any US scheduled airlines still flying passengers in 727s? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5295 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhen Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too If Hicks found a bunch of the Cooper money what are the chances he'd report it and turn it over? Reply - or the others who searched the area? Probably the same chance others have had. Why? Are you going out to look? G. 377 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites happythoughts 0 #5296 November 22, 2008 November 24th is coming up and, I'm betting, a book media release on the anniversary. That will be new and interesting. Here? Another episode of "The Secret Witness doing Secret Things that can't be known because of The Coverup". ... blah, blah, blah... blah blah. We should all give it a try. Someone, go ahead, beg me to tell you about The Big Secret Something. I remember the old drive-in movies when they had $3 a carload for the Wednesday night kung-fu flicks. Eventually, you realized that they weren't new movies, they just dubbed in different words. Quote Forums: Search Results Click here to find out more! Your search for knapsack returned 74 results in 0.044s. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5297 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhen Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too If Hicks found a bunch of the Cooper money what are the chances he'd report it and turn it over? Reply - or the others who searched the area? Probably the same chance others have had. Why? Are you going out to look? G. 377 No, just wondering if the some or all of the missing money has been found and kept. Few, I think, would turn it in if they thought they could spend it undetected. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5298 November 22, 2008 QuoteI did a really brave or foolish thing today - will have to wait to see what comes is. As for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. Reply> What rape and murder? I thought we were discussing the DB Cooper case? Is there something about Duane you haven't shared? Are you hiding evidence? Don't jump on Snowmman! I'm the one who brought this up. U-bettcha! Why are you broking for the Night Clerk if he has legs and a brain and two wives et cetera. The only thing that surprises me is his job in China. Northern China. Mongolia? Tibet? Hell why not Mons Olympus on Mars or on the moon of Saturn called Titan!? I mean someplace really remote, like Pluto. The biggest problem the night clerk has (in this world), is you. The rest of us are just sitting like bees at a hive working away like it's an ordinary day bzzzz bzzz bzzzzz and you think its some secret code to the UFO invasion or something. Or did I trip another abduction memory? Georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5299 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteAs for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. Ooh, very defensive there Jo. It's not like Snow is a tabloid reporter wanting to splash intimate details in the national press, and in fact I thought his questions were very interesting. How DOES a 27-year old night clerk become qualified enough to get a teaching position in a foreign country? "All goes to the credibility of the witness, your honor." (is that also the correct term for addressing a US judge?!) From Snow: QuoteYour inclusion of references to rape and murder of young people, to add emotion to an argument that has nothing to do with such things, belittles those who suffer from the actual events you include. Well said. (And Jo has the temerity to complain about being made "sick to the stomach"...) Jo, just because you want it to be the end of the night clerk subject, doesn't mean it is. Sorry. If you are going to present dodgy witnesses, well, don't be surprised when people become cynical about their "evidence". You may be prepared to overlook things that don't add up because he's told you what he wants to hear, don't expect others to do the same. I can understand exactly wht the FBI is not exactly falling over itself to track this guy down, why can't you?? Reply: why? Because the initials scrawled on the back door of N467US behind where the placard was did not match any known alias of Duane Weber, or any of the other imposters. How's that for an opener to your Night Clerk, Jo? Your move. Georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #5300 November 22, 2008 Quote Reply: why? Because the initials scrawled on the back door of N467US behind where the placard was did not match any known alias of Duane Weber, or any of the other imposters. How's that for an opener to your Night Clerk, Jo? Your move. Georger ? Hey Georger now you got me all scratching my head. But I'm going to bed! 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snowmman 3 #5284 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteJo, in the past you posted that the gentleman in China was in a very rural area, therefore had difficulty getting to a notary. Quote I contacted the clerk to see if he was ill. I do not call China - I e-mailed him and it may be a few days before I hear from him. He is in a very rural area of China. Reply: Wouldnt it be interesting if someone who has direct access to the current Chinese Ambassador was reading this, like the son of the former Chnese Ambassador. Stop the crap!? Georger son? I suddenly understood I had a unrealized bias when I found ltdiver apparently is not male? Possibly cat? At least that's my current guess. maybe ltdiver can confirm (or not). Why not daughter of Chinese ambassador? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5285 November 22, 2008 All this cryptic Chinese Ambassador stuff is over my head. Would somebody care to explain? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5286 November 22, 2008 QuoteWhen Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too If Hicks found a bunch of the Cooper money what are the chances he'd report it and turn it over? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjack71 0 #5287 November 22, 2008 I did a really brave or foolish thing today - will have to wait to see what comes is. As for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #5288 November 22, 2008 Quote Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. my daugher? That sweet young thing on the floor of the Cessna was no daugher of mine. You have incorrectly invoked Godwin's Law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law The correct invocation: "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." Crawl under a rock? Isn't this thread a pretty good approximation of said destination? Or where now brown cow? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #5289 November 22, 2008 Your inclusion of references to rape and murder of young people, to add emotion to an argument that has nothing to do with such things, belittles those who suffer from the actual events you include. I realize my offhand remark did the same thing, and I apologize. I do overreact sometimes at your attempts to control people's thoughts. This is just a forum. This is not life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Orange1 0 #5290 November 22, 2008 QuoteAs for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. Ooh, very defensive there Jo. It's not like Snow is a tabloid reporter wanting to splash intimate details in the national press, and in fact I thought his questions were very interesting. How DOES a 27-year old night clerk become qualified enough to get a teaching position in a foreign country? "All goes to the credibility of the witness, your honor." (is that also the correct term for addressing a US judge?!) From Snow: QuoteYour inclusion of references to rape and murder of young people, to add emotion to an argument that has nothing to do with such things, belittles those who suffer from the actual events you include. Well said. (And Jo has the temerity to complain about being made "sick to the stomach"...) Jo, just because you want it to be the end of the night clerk subject, doesn't mean it is. Sorry. If you are going to present dodgy witnesses, well, don't be surprised when people become cynical about their "evidence". You may be prepared to overlook things that don't add up because he's told you what he wants to hear, don't expect others to do the same. I can understand exactly wht the FBI is not exactly falling over itself to track this guy down, why can't you??Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5291 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteYeah, Jamey's account Reply: where is this Jamey who has firsthand knowledge, student of Cossey who was there in person when the patrol showed up for the chutes - without Cossey knowing? Cossey is still available. He was talked to just last week. Hmmmmmmm. Not saying I know something. Just saying "where is Jamey" ? Who is Jamey? Would Cossey remember "Jamey"? How come nobody I know ever heard of Jamey? How come nobody I know who know many others never heard of Jamey? Let Jamey surface. There might be money in it for him! Next topic: placard. When Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too. Georger Good point Georger. I have some snaps from the video that included Hicks, that showed a placard. There is another video with another placard. I always wondered if all the pictures we have of placards are really recreations. Do you know if the actual placard found is the one in the video, or just the one in the FBI-provided snapshot. It would be nice if you posted a picture of what you think the placard is/was, if we're going to start a placard discussion? ps. from one whuffo to another. If you don't know Jamey, then most of the other folk here are laughing at you. At least I know when they're laughing at me, I figure, say a little more than 50% of the time. Reply- The only photo I have the placard is the FBI photo, a piddling little thing. The worst of this is I had a chance to get a big photo of one of these standard issue 727 placards off a Peidmont site years ago, and I forgot and never saved the photo. Typical (of me). as for people laughing, let them, but I doubt it. There are people here who would love to question Jamey further. I am probably the least of these. There are some very smart people here with a ton of experience .......... Christ Im sounding like Jo!..... ............. I seriously doubt I am the only one who wants more from Jamey ... whatever. Georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5292 November 22, 2008 QuoteThis is just a forum. This is not life. A G R E E. 101%. Can I get a witness? No Marvin, not if he's in China. Can't we all just get along? No Rodney, not here. In fact, this is a subprime forum, but ya gotta love it. Lunatics, geniuses and a few regular folks. For the most part, there is a strange unconventional harmony, somehow pleasing in its atonal chaos and intellectual entropy. When Cooper is finally ID'd and the forum shuts down, I hope we all have rich lives that will fill the void. Peace, 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5293 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteJo, in the past you posted that the gentleman in China was in a very rural area, therefore had difficulty getting to a notary. Quote I contacted the clerk to see if he was ill. I do not call China - I e-mailed him and it may be a few days before I hear from him. He is in a very rural area of China. Daughter of son of uncle of Chinese Ambassador.. ahhhhhhhhhhh, grandmother of mother of son of ... matrilineal! We can have that clerk and his ox at the airport in 24 hrs! Georger Reply: Wouldnt it be interesting if someone who has direct access to the current Chinese Ambassador was reading this, like the son of the former Chnese Ambassador. Stop the crap!? Georger son? I suddenly understood I had a unrealized bias when I found ltdiver apparently is not male? Possibly cat? At least that's my current guess. maybe ltdiver can confirm (or not). Why not daughter of Chinese ambassador? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5294 November 22, 2008 Are any US scheduled airlines still flying passengers in 727s? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5295 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhen Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too If Hicks found a bunch of the Cooper money what are the chances he'd report it and turn it over? Reply - or the others who searched the area? Probably the same chance others have had. Why? Are you going out to look? G. 377 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites happythoughts 0 #5296 November 22, 2008 November 24th is coming up and, I'm betting, a book media release on the anniversary. That will be new and interesting. Here? Another episode of "The Secret Witness doing Secret Things that can't be known because of The Coverup". ... blah, blah, blah... blah blah. We should all give it a try. Someone, go ahead, beg me to tell you about The Big Secret Something. I remember the old drive-in movies when they had $3 a carload for the Wednesday night kung-fu flicks. Eventually, you realized that they weren't new movies, they just dubbed in different words. Quote Forums: Search Results Click here to find out more! Your search for knapsack returned 74 results in 0.044s. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5297 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhen Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too If Hicks found a bunch of the Cooper money what are the chances he'd report it and turn it over? Reply - or the others who searched the area? Probably the same chance others have had. Why? Are you going out to look? G. 377 No, just wondering if the some or all of the missing money has been found and kept. Few, I think, would turn it in if they thought they could spend it undetected. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5298 November 22, 2008 QuoteI did a really brave or foolish thing today - will have to wait to see what comes is. As for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. Reply> What rape and murder? I thought we were discussing the DB Cooper case? Is there something about Duane you haven't shared? Are you hiding evidence? Don't jump on Snowmman! I'm the one who brought this up. U-bettcha! Why are you broking for the Night Clerk if he has legs and a brain and two wives et cetera. The only thing that surprises me is his job in China. Northern China. Mongolia? Tibet? Hell why not Mons Olympus on Mars or on the moon of Saturn called Titan!? I mean someplace really remote, like Pluto. The biggest problem the night clerk has (in this world), is you. The rest of us are just sitting like bees at a hive working away like it's an ordinary day bzzzz bzzz bzzzzz and you think its some secret code to the UFO invasion or something. Or did I trip another abduction memory? Georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5299 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteAs for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. Ooh, very defensive there Jo. It's not like Snow is a tabloid reporter wanting to splash intimate details in the national press, and in fact I thought his questions were very interesting. How DOES a 27-year old night clerk become qualified enough to get a teaching position in a foreign country? "All goes to the credibility of the witness, your honor." (is that also the correct term for addressing a US judge?!) From Snow: QuoteYour inclusion of references to rape and murder of young people, to add emotion to an argument that has nothing to do with such things, belittles those who suffer from the actual events you include. Well said. (And Jo has the temerity to complain about being made "sick to the stomach"...) Jo, just because you want it to be the end of the night clerk subject, doesn't mean it is. Sorry. If you are going to present dodgy witnesses, well, don't be surprised when people become cynical about their "evidence". You may be prepared to overlook things that don't add up because he's told you what he wants to hear, don't expect others to do the same. I can understand exactly wht the FBI is not exactly falling over itself to track this guy down, why can't you?? Reply: why? Because the initials scrawled on the back door of N467US behind where the placard was did not match any known alias of Duane Weber, or any of the other imposters. How's that for an opener to your Night Clerk, Jo? Your move. Georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #5300 November 22, 2008 Quote Reply: why? Because the initials scrawled on the back door of N467US behind where the placard was did not match any known alias of Duane Weber, or any of the other imposters. How's that for an opener to your Night Clerk, Jo? Your move. Georger ? Hey Georger now you got me all scratching my head. But I'm going to bed! 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377 22 #5285 November 22, 2008 All this cryptic Chinese Ambassador stuff is over my head. Would somebody care to explain? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #5286 November 22, 2008 QuoteWhen Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too If Hicks found a bunch of the Cooper money what are the chances he'd report it and turn it over? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #5287 November 22, 2008 I did a really brave or foolish thing today - will have to wait to see what comes is. As for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowmman 3 #5288 November 22, 2008 Quote Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. my daugher? That sweet young thing on the floor of the Cessna was no daugher of mine. You have incorrectly invoked Godwin's Law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law The correct invocation: "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." Crawl under a rock? Isn't this thread a pretty good approximation of said destination? Or where now brown cow? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowmman 3 #5289 November 22, 2008 Your inclusion of references to rape and murder of young people, to add emotion to an argument that has nothing to do with such things, belittles those who suffer from the actual events you include. I realize my offhand remark did the same thing, and I apologize. I do overreact sometimes at your attempts to control people's thoughts. This is just a forum. This is not life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orange1 0 #5290 November 22, 2008 QuoteAs for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. Ooh, very defensive there Jo. It's not like Snow is a tabloid reporter wanting to splash intimate details in the national press, and in fact I thought his questions were very interesting. How DOES a 27-year old night clerk become qualified enough to get a teaching position in a foreign country? "All goes to the credibility of the witness, your honor." (is that also the correct term for addressing a US judge?!) From Snow: QuoteYour inclusion of references to rape and murder of young people, to add emotion to an argument that has nothing to do with such things, belittles those who suffer from the actual events you include. Well said. (And Jo has the temerity to complain about being made "sick to the stomach"...) Jo, just because you want it to be the end of the night clerk subject, doesn't mean it is. Sorry. If you are going to present dodgy witnesses, well, don't be surprised when people become cynical about their "evidence". You may be prepared to overlook things that don't add up because he's told you what he wants to hear, don't expect others to do the same. I can understand exactly wht the FBI is not exactly falling over itself to track this guy down, why can't you??Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 247 #5291 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteYeah, Jamey's account Reply: where is this Jamey who has firsthand knowledge, student of Cossey who was there in person when the patrol showed up for the chutes - without Cossey knowing? Cossey is still available. He was talked to just last week. Hmmmmmmm. Not saying I know something. Just saying "where is Jamey" ? Who is Jamey? Would Cossey remember "Jamey"? How come nobody I know ever heard of Jamey? How come nobody I know who know many others never heard of Jamey? Let Jamey surface. There might be money in it for him! Next topic: placard. When Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too. Georger Good point Georger. I have some snaps from the video that included Hicks, that showed a placard. There is another video with another placard. I always wondered if all the pictures we have of placards are really recreations. Do you know if the actual placard found is the one in the video, or just the one in the FBI-provided snapshot. It would be nice if you posted a picture of what you think the placard is/was, if we're going to start a placard discussion? ps. from one whuffo to another. If you don't know Jamey, then most of the other folk here are laughing at you. At least I know when they're laughing at me, I figure, say a little more than 50% of the time. Reply- The only photo I have the placard is the FBI photo, a piddling little thing. The worst of this is I had a chance to get a big photo of one of these standard issue 727 placards off a Peidmont site years ago, and I forgot and never saved the photo. Typical (of me). as for people laughing, let them, but I doubt it. There are people here who would love to question Jamey further. I am probably the least of these. There are some very smart people here with a ton of experience .......... Christ Im sounding like Jo!..... ............. I seriously doubt I am the only one who wants more from Jamey ... whatever. Georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5292 November 22, 2008 QuoteThis is just a forum. This is not life. A G R E E. 101%. Can I get a witness? No Marvin, not if he's in China. Can't we all just get along? No Rodney, not here. In fact, this is a subprime forum, but ya gotta love it. Lunatics, geniuses and a few regular folks. For the most part, there is a strange unconventional harmony, somehow pleasing in its atonal chaos and intellectual entropy. When Cooper is finally ID'd and the forum shuts down, I hope we all have rich lives that will fill the void. Peace, 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5293 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteJo, in the past you posted that the gentleman in China was in a very rural area, therefore had difficulty getting to a notary. Quote I contacted the clerk to see if he was ill. I do not call China - I e-mailed him and it may be a few days before I hear from him. He is in a very rural area of China. Daughter of son of uncle of Chinese Ambassador.. ahhhhhhhhhhh, grandmother of mother of son of ... matrilineal! We can have that clerk and his ox at the airport in 24 hrs! Georger Reply: Wouldnt it be interesting if someone who has direct access to the current Chinese Ambassador was reading this, like the son of the former Chnese Ambassador. Stop the crap!? Georger son? I suddenly understood I had a unrealized bias when I found ltdiver apparently is not male? Possibly cat? At least that's my current guess. maybe ltdiver can confirm (or not). Why not daughter of Chinese ambassador? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5294 November 22, 2008 Are any US scheduled airlines still flying passengers in 727s? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5295 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhen Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too If Hicks found a bunch of the Cooper money what are the chances he'd report it and turn it over? Reply - or the others who searched the area? Probably the same chance others have had. Why? Are you going out to look? G. 377 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites happythoughts 0 #5296 November 22, 2008 November 24th is coming up and, I'm betting, a book media release on the anniversary. That will be new and interesting. Here? Another episode of "The Secret Witness doing Secret Things that can't be known because of The Coverup". ... blah, blah, blah... blah blah. We should all give it a try. Someone, go ahead, beg me to tell you about The Big Secret Something. I remember the old drive-in movies when they had $3 a carload for the Wednesday night kung-fu flicks. Eventually, you realized that they weren't new movies, they just dubbed in different words. Quote Forums: Search Results Click here to find out more! Your search for knapsack returned 74 results in 0.044s. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5297 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhen Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too If Hicks found a bunch of the Cooper money what are the chances he'd report it and turn it over? Reply - or the others who searched the area? Probably the same chance others have had. Why? Are you going out to look? G. 377 No, just wondering if the some or all of the missing money has been found and kept. Few, I think, would turn it in if they thought they could spend it undetected. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5298 November 22, 2008 QuoteI did a really brave or foolish thing today - will have to wait to see what comes is. As for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. Reply> What rape and murder? I thought we were discussing the DB Cooper case? Is there something about Duane you haven't shared? Are you hiding evidence? Don't jump on Snowmman! I'm the one who brought this up. U-bettcha! Why are you broking for the Night Clerk if he has legs and a brain and two wives et cetera. The only thing that surprises me is his job in China. Northern China. Mongolia? Tibet? Hell why not Mons Olympus on Mars or on the moon of Saturn called Titan!? I mean someplace really remote, like Pluto. The biggest problem the night clerk has (in this world), is you. The rest of us are just sitting like bees at a hive working away like it's an ordinary day bzzzz bzzz bzzzzz and you think its some secret code to the UFO invasion or something. Or did I trip another abduction memory? Georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5299 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteAs for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. Ooh, very defensive there Jo. It's not like Snow is a tabloid reporter wanting to splash intimate details in the national press, and in fact I thought his questions were very interesting. How DOES a 27-year old night clerk become qualified enough to get a teaching position in a foreign country? "All goes to the credibility of the witness, your honor." (is that also the correct term for addressing a US judge?!) From Snow: QuoteYour inclusion of references to rape and murder of young people, to add emotion to an argument that has nothing to do with such things, belittles those who suffer from the actual events you include. Well said. (And Jo has the temerity to complain about being made "sick to the stomach"...) Jo, just because you want it to be the end of the night clerk subject, doesn't mean it is. Sorry. If you are going to present dodgy witnesses, well, don't be surprised when people become cynical about their "evidence". You may be prepared to overlook things that don't add up because he's told you what he wants to hear, don't expect others to do the same. I can understand exactly wht the FBI is not exactly falling over itself to track this guy down, why can't you?? Reply: why? Because the initials scrawled on the back door of N467US behind where the placard was did not match any known alias of Duane Weber, or any of the other imposters. How's that for an opener to your Night Clerk, Jo? Your move. Georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #5300 November 22, 2008 Quote Reply: why? Because the initials scrawled on the back door of N467US behind where the placard was did not match any known alias of Duane Weber, or any of the other imposters. 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377 22 #5292 November 22, 2008 QuoteThis is just a forum. This is not life. A G R E E. 101%. Can I get a witness? No Marvin, not if he's in China. Can't we all just get along? No Rodney, not here. In fact, this is a subprime forum, but ya gotta love it. Lunatics, geniuses and a few regular folks. For the most part, there is a strange unconventional harmony, somehow pleasing in its atonal chaos and intellectual entropy. When Cooper is finally ID'd and the forum shuts down, I hope we all have rich lives that will fill the void. Peace, 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 247 #5293 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteJo, in the past you posted that the gentleman in China was in a very rural area, therefore had difficulty getting to a notary. Quote I contacted the clerk to see if he was ill. I do not call China - I e-mailed him and it may be a few days before I hear from him. He is in a very rural area of China. Daughter of son of uncle of Chinese Ambassador.. ahhhhhhhhhhh, grandmother of mother of son of ... matrilineal! We can have that clerk and his ox at the airport in 24 hrs! Georger Reply: Wouldnt it be interesting if someone who has direct access to the current Chinese Ambassador was reading this, like the son of the former Chnese Ambassador. Stop the crap!? Georger son? I suddenly understood I had a unrealized bias when I found ltdiver apparently is not male? Possibly cat? At least that's my current guess. maybe ltdiver can confirm (or not). Why not daughter of Chinese ambassador? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5294 November 22, 2008 Are any US scheduled airlines still flying passengers in 727s? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5295 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhen Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too If Hicks found a bunch of the Cooper money what are the chances he'd report it and turn it over? Reply - or the others who searched the area? Probably the same chance others have had. Why? Are you going out to look? G. 377 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites happythoughts 0 #5296 November 22, 2008 November 24th is coming up and, I'm betting, a book media release on the anniversary. That will be new and interesting. Here? Another episode of "The Secret Witness doing Secret Things that can't be known because of The Coverup". ... blah, blah, blah... blah blah. We should all give it a try. Someone, go ahead, beg me to tell you about The Big Secret Something. I remember the old drive-in movies when they had $3 a carload for the Wednesday night kung-fu flicks. Eventually, you realized that they weren't new movies, they just dubbed in different words. Quote Forums: Search Results Click here to find out more! Your search for knapsack returned 74 results in 0.044s. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 377 22 #5297 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhen Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too If Hicks found a bunch of the Cooper money what are the chances he'd report it and turn it over? Reply - or the others who searched the area? Probably the same chance others have had. Why? Are you going out to look? G. 377 No, just wondering if the some or all of the missing money has been found and kept. Few, I think, would turn it in if they thought they could spend it undetected. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5298 November 22, 2008 QuoteI did a really brave or foolish thing today - will have to wait to see what comes is. As for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. Reply> What rape and murder? I thought we were discussing the DB Cooper case? Is there something about Duane you haven't shared? Are you hiding evidence? Don't jump on Snowmman! I'm the one who brought this up. U-bettcha! Why are you broking for the Night Clerk if he has legs and a brain and two wives et cetera. The only thing that surprises me is his job in China. Northern China. Mongolia? Tibet? Hell why not Mons Olympus on Mars or on the moon of Saturn called Titan!? I mean someplace really remote, like Pluto. The biggest problem the night clerk has (in this world), is you. The rest of us are just sitting like bees at a hive working away like it's an ordinary day bzzzz bzzz bzzzzz and you think its some secret code to the UFO invasion or something. Or did I trip another abduction memory? Georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 247 #5299 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteAs for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. Ooh, very defensive there Jo. It's not like Snow is a tabloid reporter wanting to splash intimate details in the national press, and in fact I thought his questions were very interesting. How DOES a 27-year old night clerk become qualified enough to get a teaching position in a foreign country? "All goes to the credibility of the witness, your honor." (is that also the correct term for addressing a US judge?!) From Snow: QuoteYour inclusion of references to rape and murder of young people, to add emotion to an argument that has nothing to do with such things, belittles those who suffer from the actual events you include. Well said. (And Jo has the temerity to complain about being made "sick to the stomach"...) Jo, just because you want it to be the end of the night clerk subject, doesn't mean it is. Sorry. If you are going to present dodgy witnesses, well, don't be surprised when people become cynical about their "evidence". You may be prepared to overlook things that don't add up because he's told you what he wants to hear, don't expect others to do the same. I can understand exactly wht the FBI is not exactly falling over itself to track this guy down, why can't you?? Reply: why? Because the initials scrawled on the back door of N467US behind where the placard was did not match any known alias of Duane Weber, or any of the other imposters. How's that for an opener to your Night Clerk, Jo? Your move. Georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #5300 November 22, 2008 Quote Reply: why? Because the initials scrawled on the back door of N467US behind where the placard was did not match any known alias of Duane Weber, or any of the other imposters. 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377 22 #5294 November 22, 2008 Are any US scheduled airlines still flying passengers in 727s? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 247 #5295 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhen Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too If Hicks found a bunch of the Cooper money what are the chances he'd report it and turn it over? Reply - or the others who searched the area? Probably the same chance others have had. Why? Are you going out to look? G. 377 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #5296 November 22, 2008 November 24th is coming up and, I'm betting, a book media release on the anniversary. That will be new and interesting. Here? Another episode of "The Secret Witness doing Secret Things that can't be known because of The Coverup". ... blah, blah, blah... blah blah. We should all give it a try. Someone, go ahead, beg me to tell you about The Big Secret Something. I remember the old drive-in movies when they had $3 a carload for the Wednesday night kung-fu flicks. Eventually, you realized that they weren't new movies, they just dubbed in different words. Quote Forums: Search Results Click here to find out more! Your search for knapsack returned 74 results in 0.044s. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #5297 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhen Hicks and others went back to search the area around Silver Lake after the palcard was found, did they find anything? They conducted the search on the assumption if the placard had come out maybe Cooper had too If Hicks found a bunch of the Cooper money what are the chances he'd report it and turn it over? Reply - or the others who searched the area? Probably the same chance others have had. Why? Are you going out to look? G. 377 No, just wondering if the some or all of the missing money has been found and kept. Few, I think, would turn it in if they thought they could spend it undetected. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 247 #5298 November 22, 2008 QuoteI did a really brave or foolish thing today - will have to wait to see what comes is. As for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. Reply> What rape and murder? I thought we were discussing the DB Cooper case? Is there something about Duane you haven't shared? Are you hiding evidence? Don't jump on Snowmman! I'm the one who brought this up. U-bettcha! Why are you broking for the Night Clerk if he has legs and a brain and two wives et cetera. The only thing that surprises me is his job in China. Northern China. Mongolia? Tibet? Hell why not Mons Olympus on Mars or on the moon of Saturn called Titan!? I mean someplace really remote, like Pluto. The biggest problem the night clerk has (in this world), is you. The rest of us are just sitting like bees at a hive working away like it's an ordinary day bzzzz bzzz bzzzzz and you think its some secret code to the UFO invasion or something. Or did I trip another abduction memory? Georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 247 #5299 November 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteAs for the night clerk - his private life is NOT anyones business and the kind for crap that certain individuals are putting together is exactly WHY he didn't come forward in 2000. Do not any of you understand why NO ONE would want to come forward. This crap is exactly what has happened to other individuals who have offered information in the past. This kind of putting together facts about someones life and distorting them makes me sick to my stomach. NO one WILL ever want to come forward about any crime they might have some knowledge of. END of night clerk subject. Snowmman: If this case was the rape and murder of your daugher, is this an example of how you would treat a witness who came forward to tell what he saw or knew in regards to the crime? Please go crawl under a rock someplace. Ooh, very defensive there Jo. It's not like Snow is a tabloid reporter wanting to splash intimate details in the national press, and in fact I thought his questions were very interesting. How DOES a 27-year old night clerk become qualified enough to get a teaching position in a foreign country? "All goes to the credibility of the witness, your honor." (is that also the correct term for addressing a US judge?!) From Snow: QuoteYour inclusion of references to rape and murder of young people, to add emotion to an argument that has nothing to do with such things, belittles those who suffer from the actual events you include. Well said. (And Jo has the temerity to complain about being made "sick to the stomach"...) Jo, just because you want it to be the end of the night clerk subject, doesn't mean it is. Sorry. If you are going to present dodgy witnesses, well, don't be surprised when people become cynical about their "evidence". You may be prepared to overlook things that don't add up because he's told you what he wants to hear, don't expect others to do the same. I can understand exactly wht the FBI is not exactly falling over itself to track this guy down, why can't you?? Reply: why? Because the initials scrawled on the back door of N467US behind where the placard was did not match any known alias of Duane Weber, or any of the other imposters. How's that for an opener to your Night Clerk, Jo? Your move. Georger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowmman 3 #5300 November 22, 2008 Quote Reply: why? Because the initials scrawled on the back door of N467US behind where the placard was did not match any known alias of Duane Weber, or any of the other imposters. How's that for an opener to your Night Clerk, Jo? Your move. Georger ? Hey Georger now you got me all scratching my head. But I'm going to bed! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
