DB Cooper

[olemisscub 525]

[FLYJACK 742]

  On 12/2/2022 at 3:14 AM, Slim King said:

Cream of the Crop-dusters ... They performed all over the USA!!!!! However the FBI never questioned all of them.

First reaction,, Reca/Peca is too big,, has a huge head and hands,,

but who are these people, when and where was the picture taken?

I don't see Cossey there..

When was Reca/Peca in Wa,, which years?

[Coopericane 44]

So TSL was a smoker. He could have started after the hijacking though, I guess, and I think he can be ruled out based on the other information Flyjack reported.

Catalano was a purser at TWA... not done glancing the files yet. Did we learn anything else significant about him?

[Coopericane 44]

Gossett ruled out by DNA?

[olemisscub 525]

This Arthur Denham guy that they went to all this trouble to DNA test was 5'9, blue eyes, and was 38 at time of NORJAK. FBI was in love with these young kid suspects apparently.

[FLYJACK 742]

  On 12/2/2022 at 3:29 AM, olemisscub said:

This Arthur Denham guy that they went to all this trouble to DNA test was 5'9, blue eyes, and was 38 at time of NORJAK. FBI was in love with these young kid suspects apparently.

Desperate..  

[olemisscub 525]

[dudeman17 342]

  On 11/30/2022 at 7:04 PM, kcaero said:

The NB 8 has a closer pin spacing than a B12/B4.You have to use the NB8 Ripcord. An NB 8 Ripcord WILL NOT work on a B12 container .

 

  On 11/30/2022 at 7:42 PM, georger said:

So Cossey packed an unusable chute that did not work ! ?

To clarify that a bit more, Georger, having the wrong ripcord will not result in a packed rig that you cannot open. It would result in not being able to get the container closed in the first place, as the ripcord pins would not match where the container pack closures are. If they were close enough to get it closed, then pulling it would get it open.

[Coopericane 44]

Fred Catalano, sixth from the end.

[georger 256]

  On 12/2/2022 at 2:59 AM, FLYJACK said:

New FBI doc #77

https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper /d.-b.-cooper-part-77/view

 

Thanks! 

[Coopericane 44]

Looks like our new friend has gotten in trouble before... https://arrestfacts.com/Fred-Catalano-2p7u54

Edited December 2, 2022 by Coopericane

[olemisscub 525]

I can see why they might be interested in Catalano. He bears a close resemblance to KK5-1.

[CooperNWO305 157]

I'm guessing that someone in the FBI is reading the forums.  This latest release as the Shelton lead, EHS, a blurb on Sheridan Peterson, DNA stuff, etc.  I still need to read through the rest.

EDIT: Duane Weber DNA tested too.

Edited December 2, 2022 by CooperNWO305

[olemisscub 525]

  On 12/2/2022 at 2:51 PM, CooperNWO305 said:

I'm guessing that someone in the FBI is reading the forums.  This latest release as the Shelton lead, EHS, a blurb on Sheridan Peterson, DNA stuff, etc.  I still need to read through the rest.

EDIT: Duane Weber DNA tested too.

Indeed.

I’d like to see more 302’s regarding the hair slide. The last time it pops up in a 302 is 1985. It’s called “Q2” in the 302’s.

Also, 302’s of the missing passenger interviews. We are missing about 10 of them. 

Also, the 302 from Vegas to Seattle confirming that they destroyed the cigarettes. Should be from 2002-2003 time frame.

Edited December 2, 2022 by olemisscub

[Andrade1812 51]

What's the timeline for Catalano? Fired from TWA summer '72?

What did he get arrested for in 1999?

Same thing for our Shelton friend, can we get a bio sketch that I can steal for my website?

[FLYJACK 742]

  On 12/2/2022 at 3:01 PM, olemisscub said:

Indeed.

I’d like to see more 302’s regarding the hair slide. The last time it pops up in a 302 is 1985. It’s called “Q2” in the 302’s.

Also, 302’s of the missing passenger interviews. We are missing about 10 of them. 

Also, the 302 from Vegas to Seattle confirming that they destroyed the cigarettes. Should be from 2002-2003 time frame.

Specimen Q1 is the cigarette butts,, they were destroyed after testing a few weeks after the hijacking..

(Cigarette butts) "may be destroyed at the Bureau on completion of examination"

 

"Specimen Q1contains 8 cigarette butts"

 

"disposition of Q1".. "by a separate report"

[CooperNWO305 157]

Interesting that they actually posted a DNA profile of a suspect.  This is not the DNA process used for an Ancestry.com though.  I'd be curious what their Cooper profile looks like and if all these locations have data for Cooper too.  This shows 9 locations. I'd have to dust off my DNA notes, but I think the standard was 13 locations.  Georger might be able to comment some.  If they were ruling someone out, then they must have this below info for Cooper.

[olemisscub 525]

  On 12/2/2022 at 3:53 PM, FLYJACK said:

Specimen Q1 is the cigarette butts,, they were destroyed after testing a few weeks after the hijacking..

(Cigarette butts) "may be destroyed at the Bureau on completion of examination"

 

Yes, I understand what Q1 and Q2 are and I understand that Vegas destroyed Q1 at some point (DC did not destroy them and sent them back to Vegas in 71). I'm just hoping there is an official 302 from Vegas in 71 (or whenever they destroyed Q1) saying they destroyed it. So far the closest we have to that are these docs. 

 

 

[olemisscub 525]

This Derham guy was a midwestern skydiver. From Chicago Tribune in 62

 

[CooperNWO305 157]

  On 12/2/2022 at 3:01 PM, olemisscub said:

Indeed.

I’d like to see more 302’s regarding the hair slide. The last time it pops up in a 302 is 1985. It’s called “Q2” in the 302’s.

Also, 302’s of the missing passenger interviews. We are missing about 10 of them. 

Also, the 302 from Vegas to Seattle confirming that they destroyed the cigarettes. Should be from 2002-2003 time frame.

10 missing interviews? As in those passengers were interviewed and we just don't have those yet, or are those additional interviews with the passengers already interviewed once?

[FLYJACK 742]

  On 12/2/2022 at 4:50 PM, olemisscub said:

Yes, I understand what Q1 and Q2 are and I understand that Vegas destroyed Q1 at some point (DC did not destroy them and sent them back to Vegas in 71). I'm just hoping there is an official 302 from Vegas in 71 (or whenever they destroyed Q1) saying they destroyed it. So far the closest we have to that are these docs. 

 

 

Did you read the last doc..

This says they (Q1) were destroyed after testing Dec '71.

This is the closest... 

Edited December 2, 2022 by FLYJACK

[olemisscub 525]

  On 12/2/2022 at 5:17 PM, CooperNWO305 said:

10 missing interviews? As in those passengers were interviewed and we just don't have those yet, or are those additional interviews with the passengers already interviewed once?

We have the "canonical five" plus I'm quite certain I've ID'd Richard Simmons' statement (Vault 22, Page 4). We're missing the rest of these. We do have two that have yet to be ID'd, which are in Vault 22, page 3 and page 5. I've not come across any other unidentified witness statements from that night in the Vault. Maybe FlyJack has. 

[CooperNWO305 157]

  On 12/2/2022 at 5:28 PM, olemisscub said:

We have the "canonical five" plus I'm quite certain I've ID'd Richard Simmons' statement (Vault 22, Page 4). We're missing the rest of these. We do have two that have yet to be ID'd, which are in Vault 22, page 3 and page 5. I've not come across any other unidentified witness statements from that night in the Vault. Maybe FlyJack has. 

"canonical five" is that Tina, Flo, Alice, Mitchell and ????

[olemisscub 525]

  On 12/2/2022 at 5:59 PM, CooperNWO305 said:

"canonical five" is that Tina, Flo, Alice, Mitchell and ????

I'm referring to the passengers: Bill, Gregory, Spreckel, Lab, and House. 

[FLYJACK 742]

They were not certain the DNA was Cooper's... (likely belongs) that means not matching does not really eliminate.