DB Cooper

[FLYJACK 727]

Sure, Limbach is playing semantics.. everyone who investigates a suspect gets attacked for being biased.. to mitigate that just change the language and pretend otherwise.

Calling a suspect a POI is defence to being accused of bias..

Of course it isn't, it is a cheap parlour trick.. of course Limbach is pushing Cooper as a suspect..

Like Ryan claiming he isn't biased because he doesn't have a suspect, it is nonsense.

and I agree, nothing wrong with having a suspect...  how else do you vet people and move the case..

but having a suspect is treated with hate and disdain..  pretty stupid.

The problem is that obviously Hall was not Cooper based on the facts and nobody has the integrity to say so.

[olemisscub 521]

  On 4/1/2025 at 5:37 PM, FLYJACK said:

 

and I don't think Skip's nose is an issue..

no shit. You'd better not. 

 

[olemisscub 521]

  On 4/1/2025 at 5:22 PM, CooperNWO305 said:

I think he just meant Minnesota is nice country, which it is, very nice. But there’s nothing to say he would not use puns and jokes. He said “I don’t bite”. He seemed to be having a good time. 

That's fair about the "I don't bite."

But he was clearly just saying the terrain is fine, and yes, despite what Flyjack says, it IS "nice country". 

[olemisscub 521]

  On 4/1/2025 at 7:57 PM, FLYJACK said:

 

The problem is that obviously Hall was not Cooper based on the facts and nobody has the integrity to say so.

what facts eliminate Hall?

Again, you are being outrageously hypocritical to eliminate ANY suspect based off of a minor physical detail when you don't apply a similar level of scrutiny to your own suspect. 

[FLYJACK 727]

  On 4/2/2025 at 12:23 AM, olemisscub said:

what facts eliminate Hall?

Again, you are being outrageously hypocritical to eliminate ANY suspect based off of a minor physical detail when you don't apply a similar level of scrutiny to your own suspect. 

Not a minor physical detail...   grow up.

Those bumps on his face and severe wrinkles are unique enough that they would not be missed by witnesses.

[olemisscub 521]

  On 4/1/2025 at 5:41 PM, FLYJACK said:

I noticed Skip's hair is so thin that he had to part it on both sides...

In the pic on the right there are even more bumps visible on this face and a dimpled chin.

AND THAT FOREHEAD...  THOSE WRINKLES....   get real people. 

1. Notice it's only occurring when he's raising his eyebrows. 

2. He had plenty of hair, as photos of him as an older man show. And...oh the humanity! Just LOOK at the forehead wrinkles in this photo!

 

 

[FLYJACK 727]

  On 4/2/2025 at 12:20 AM, olemisscub said:

That's fair about the "I don't bite."

But he was clearly just saying the terrain is fine, and yes, despite what Flyjack says, it IS "nice country". 

Of course you don't actually grasp the issue.. and are gaslighting.

You don't know what Cooper meant. 

I have always said he could have been describing the geography or the characteristics of the people..

You still haven't admitted you were wrong.. 

 

[olemisscub 521]

  On 4/2/2025 at 12:28 AM, FLYJACK said:

Not a minor physical detail...   grow up.

Those bumps on his face and severe wrinkles are unique enough that they would not be missed by witnesses.

again, if you say that something wouldn't have been missed by witnesses, then you need to eliminate Hahneman, who looks less like Cooper than any suspect ever except for Walter Reca. 

[FLYJACK 727]

  On 4/2/2025 at 12:30 AM, olemisscub said:

1. Notice it's only occurring when he's raising his eyebrows. 

2. He had plenty of hair, as photos of him as an older man show. And...oh the humanity! Just LOOK at the forehead wrinkles in this photo!

 

 

Wholly dishonest Ryan. That is a crap photo.

[olemisscub 521]

  On 4/2/2025 at 12:31 AM, FLYJACK said:

Of course you don't actually grasp the issue.. and are gaslighting.

You don't know what Cooper meant. 

I have always said he could have been describing the geography or the characteristics of the people..

You still haven't admitted you were wrong.. 

 

You haven't provided ANY evidence that a lowlife aircraft hijacker in 1971 would have known about the verbiage "Minnesota Nice". None. 

[olemisscub 521]

  On 4/2/2025 at 12:33 AM, FLYJACK said:

Wholly dishonest Ryan. That is a crap photo.

BAHAHAHAHAH how?? A crap photo? You were acting like Skip Hall was virtually bald. He clearly wasn't. There are photos of him from the late 70's with a legitimate Afro. 

[FLYJACK 727]

  On 4/2/2025 at 12:31 AM, olemisscub said:

again, if you say that something wouldn't have been missed by witnesses, then you need to eliminate Hahneman, who looks less like Cooper than any suspect ever except for Walter Reca. 

Again strawmanning..

Hahneman has nothing to with Skip Hall's facial bumps and severe wrinkles..

They exist. Deal with it.

[FLYJACK 727]

  On 4/2/2025 at 12:33 AM, olemisscub said:

You haven't provided ANY evidence that a lowlife aircraft hijacker in 1971 would have known about the verbiage "Minnesota Nice". None. 

Now you change the goalpost to avoid responsibility. The verbiage is not the issue, the fact that the people from Minnesota were well known as "nice" before NORJAK is.. and you were wrong. TIP.. never trust Georger's quick google search.

You can't prove Cooper meant "nice" geography... maybe he did, we don't know.

 

[olemisscub 521]

  On 4/2/2025 at 12:35 AM, FLYJACK said:

 

They exist. Deal with it.

Yep. Not enough to eliminate him. The fact that this is all you have on Hall shows his strength as a suspect. Dave is bitching about people not attacking Skip. Well...what is there really to attack him on? I think his nose is somewhat too large for my liking and he doesn't look homely. Sure, when he raises his eyebrows he has forehead wrinkles. They are much less apparent when he's not. None of that is really enough to eliminate him IMO when he has so many positives working in his favor. 

[olemisscub 521]

  On 4/2/2025 at 12:42 AM, FLYJACK said:

Now you change the goalpost to avoid responsibility. The verbiage is not the issue, the fact that the people from Minnesota were well known as "nice" before NORJAK is.. and you were wrong. TIP.. never trust Georger's quick google search.

You can't prove Cooper meant "nice" geography... maybe he did, we don't know.

 

I don't have a responsibility to do anything regarding this goofy notion of yours. 

[FLYJACK 727]

  On 4/2/2025 at 12:43 AM, olemisscub said:

Yep. Not enough to eliminate him. The fact that this is all you have on Hall shows his strength as a suspect. Dave is bitching about people not attacking Skip. Well...what is there really to attack him on? I think his nose is somewhat too large for my liking and he doesn't look homely. Sure, when he raises his eyebrows he has forehead wrinkles. They are much less apparent when he's not. None of that is really enough to eliminate him IMO when he has so many positives working in his favor. 

So Hall is now a suspect, I thought he was POI or is that just politically correct nonsense.

It is really difficult to actually eliminate a suspect with facts... most people use opinion. Ironically, the less you know the harder it can be.. but Hall can be eliminated with those many bumps dimpled chin and severe forehead and eye wrinkles. 

Fortunately we have that for Hall, but without that it comes down to an opinion..

Lots of suspects can't be eliminated but are not Cooper.

If we ignore the facial features that eliminate him,, IMO he still was not Cooper.. There is no real evidence for him and he was known to the CIA and FBI pre Norjak,, He was high profile in the Intel community and had many shady ways to make money...  

He doesn't fit Cooper's profile. Cooper was a nobody, a loner.

Those obvious facial features eliminate him,, anyone who isn't biased can see it.

Edited Wednesday at 01:12 AM by FLYJACK

[FLYJACK 727]

  On 4/2/2025 at 12:44 AM, olemisscub said:

I don't have a responsibility to do anything regarding this goofy notion of yours. 

I never expect you to but you said you would admit you were wrong if Minnesota "nice" existed before NORJAK..

It did, you lied again and your word is mud.

Edited Wednesday at 01:17 AM by FLYJACK

[FLYJACK 727]

  On 4/2/2025 at 12:34 AM, olemisscub said:

BAHAHAHAHAH how?? A crap photo? You were acting like Skip Hall was virtually bald. He clearly wasn't. There are photos of him from the late 70's with a legitimate Afro. 

I never said he was virtually bald,,, why do you have to always lie,, is that how you were trained.

I noticed in the image his hair was parted on BOTH sides because it was so thin..

The image speaks for itself,, It is clear you need to discredit the messenger because you can't defend it but it doesn't change the facts.. really amateur stuff Ryan. 

[olemisscub 521]

  On 4/2/2025 at 1:03 AM, FLYJACK said:

I never expect you to but you said you would admit you were wrong if Minnesota "nice" existed before NORJAK..

It did, you lied again and your word is mud.

Nope. You proved nothing of the sort. You provided more webpages of just people in the modern era referencing it. I wanted contemporary sources. 

[olemisscub 521]

  On 4/2/2025 at 1:26 AM, FLYJACK said:

 

I noticed in the image his hair was parted on BOTH sides because it was so thin..

 

Yes, and what was the point of it? You were trying to find something else about Hall. You were going to claim that his hair was too thin to be Cooper. But then I PROVED that his hair was thin by choice in that photo. Now you're crying about it. 

[georger 248]

  On 4/2/2025 at 1:03 AM, FLYJACK said:

I never expect you to but you said you would admit you were wrong if Minnesota "nice" existed before NORJAK..

It did, you lied again and your word is mud.

Minnesota "nice" is irrelevant. That's your invention and nothing more. 

The passage from the interview is: He asked her where she was from and she told him she was from Pennsylvania but was living in Minneapolis. He replied that ‘Minneapolis, Minnesota is very nice country’.

The reference is places, not people! Tina and Cooper's exchange relates to places, not people. He said nothing about the people of Pennsylvania or‘Minneapolis, Minnesota. He specified 'country'. Country refers to land, water, sky, and geographical physical features.

Moreover, you are far more interested in winning a political dispute you started, than truth. Damned near everything you say and do is "political"!

 

Edited Wednesday at 01:50 AM by georger

[olemisscub 521]

  On 4/2/2025 at 1:01 AM, FLYJACK said:

So Hall is now a suspect, I thought he was POI or is that just politically correct nonsense.

There is no real evidence for him

I've never called anyone a POI. They're suspects as far as I'm concerned. 

And there's no "real evidence" for ANYONE in this case. If there were, they'd probably be Cooper. 

[olemisscub 521]

  On 4/2/2025 at 1:40 AM, georger said:

Moreover, you are far more interested in winning a dispute you started, than truth.

 

Precisely. Flyjack could have been the Michael Jordan of some sport or competition if he focused his pathological competitiveness on something else besides Cooper. 

[FLYJACK 727]

  On 4/2/2025 at 1:39 AM, olemisscub said:

Nope. You proved nothing of the sort. You provided more webpages of just people in the modern era referencing it. I wanted contemporary sources. 

What are you talking about,, "Nice" is a characteristic of the people from that area and it predates NORJAK by a long shot..  that is the issue.

Edited Wednesday at 02:11 AM by FLYJACK

[FLYJACK 727]

  On 4/2/2025 at 1:40 AM, olemisscub said:

Yes, and what was the point of it? You were trying to find something else about Hall. You were going to claim that his hair was too thin to be Cooper. But then I PROVED that his hair was thin by choice in that photo. Now you're crying about it. 

I was pointing out a FACT in the image,,, he parted his hair on both sides. 

Clearly, you have a problem with facts.