snowmman 3 #6776 December 31, 2008 Quote It was a Huey chopper, not a T-33 that was the slow chase "plane". T-33 isn't myth, as far as I can tell. A T-33 was directed to chase. This has been posted about before here. It's in Tosaw's book or the Nojak book. Forgot which. It didn't get involved until too late. The chopper thing, I get confused about all the time. We've posted details about the chopper and pilots before. I'm still unclear whether H. was up that night or the next day as part of search. (edit) Heli pilots were likely Lt. Col. Gale Goyins and Maj. William Gottlieb. Oregon National Guard S&R heli pilots? (edit) repost of my prior post/notes about the T-33. It was in the Norjak book. The T33 trainer jet was diverted to follow. Note that Lake Oswego is south of Portland, so all their info doesn't help, since it was after the jump. Norman Battaglia was going to Portland Air Base for a night training mission, about 5:30 pm. He and pilot Dick Perry went thru their pre-flight, took off around 7:50. Battaglia was Air National Guard officer, in back seat as instructor-pilot. Shortly after they were airborne, they were told to switch radio to Seattle Center, and Seattle told them to trail 305.... They turned toward Lake Oswego, putting them about 3 miles behind 305. They made radar contact and noted 305 was changing course 45 degrees every 30 seconds. He had to throttle back to 135 knots and fly with landing gear and flaps down to maintain contact. Near Eugene they were told to break contact, go to Kingsley Field in Klamath Falls. They say they never saw the 727. At one point they were about 3/4 mile away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowmman 3 #6777 December 31, 2008 reviewing old posts. Jo had claimed she had a picture. on Jun 23, 2008, 4:37 PM skyjack71 posted: "CIA used the 727 in Vietman - that has been stated from get go by Himmelsbach and it is in his book. Maybe it was not made public knowledge so as not to spur such conversations as we have had here...but this was stated by Minnesota. WHY do you think they started looking for individuals who served in Viet Nam? This is nothing NEW. Years ago I found a picture of such a delivery being made by our armed services on the computer and then it disappeared like so many things did over the yrs." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #6778 December 31, 2008 I remember arguing hard with Jo (might have been in PMs). I was quite sure 727s had never dropped anything much less people before Norjack. She was 100% sure they had during the Viet Nam war. Boy was I wrong and I consider myself an aviation history buff. Kinda nice to see one of Jo's seemingly wild ideas vindicated. I know some of you don't want to say anything positive about Jo, but it is only fair to say she was right and I was wrong about pre Norjack 727 airdrops. Happy New Year to Jo and everyone else. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #6779 December 31, 2008 QuoteQuote It was a Huey chopper, not a T-33 that was the slow chase "plane". T-33 isn't myth, as far as I can tell. A T-33 was directed to chase. This has been posted about before here. It's in Tosaw's book or the Nojak book. Forgot which. It didn't get involved until too late. The chopper thing, I get confused about all the time. We've posted details about the chopper and pilots before. I'm still unclear whether H. was up that night or the next day as part of search. (edit) Heli pilots were likely Lt. Col. Gale Goyins and Maj. William Gottlieb. Oregon National Guard S&R heli pilots? (edit) repost of my prior post/notes about the T-33. It was in the Norjak book. The T33 trainer jet was diverted to follow. Note that Lake Oswego is south of Portland, so all their info doesn't help, since it was after the jump. Norman Battaglia was going to Portland Air Base for a night training mission, about 5:30 pm. He and pilot Dick Perry went thru their pre-flight, took off around 7:50. Battaglia was Air National Guard officer, in back seat as instructor-pilot. Shortly after they were airborne, they were told to switch radio to Seattle Center, and Seattle told them to trail 305.... They turned toward Lake Oswego, putting them about 3 miles behind 305. They made radar contact and noted 305 was changing course 45 degrees every 30 seconds. He had to throttle back to 135 knots and fly with landing gear and flaps down to maintain contact. Near Eugene they were told to break contact, go to Kingsley Field in Klamath Falls. They say they never saw the 727. At one point they were about 3/4 mile away. Did F 106s chase the 727? 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #6780 December 31, 2008 The T 33 does not have radar which could effectively track the 727. They must have been getting intercept info from ATC or McChord. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowmman 3 #6781 December 31, 2008 I suspect this web page is from the same Norman Battaglia. http://www.google.com/s2/profiles/110007787002877040722 Oregon ANG1966 to 1981; Retired in 1981; rank, Lt. Colonel USAF. maybe used the name "Batman" ? funny: "I have been in four movies as an extra. I belong to SAG (Screen Actors Guild) " There's a phone number for him in Portland if you plug his name into google. Could call him up and see! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orange1 0 #6782 December 31, 2008 QuoteI remember arguing hard with Jo (might have been in PMs). I was quite sure 727s had never dropped anything much less people before Norjack. She was 100% sure they had during the Viet Nam war. Boy was I wrong and I consider myself an aviation history buff. Kinda nice to see one of Jo's seemingly wild ideas vindicated. I know some of you don't want to say anything positive about Jo, but it is only fair to say she was right and I was wrong about pre Norjack 727 airdrops. Happy New Year to Jo and everyone else. 377 From Snow's post, she said Agent H told her that. I'm wondering if he got the info through official channels, or via that 1996 newspaper article Snow posted the link to the other day. Edit: Snow's quote from Jo also says this: QuoteWHY do you think they started looking for individuals who served in Viet Nam? Wonder how far they searched re that angle...?Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orange1 0 #6783 December 31, 2008 QuoteI had posted details of '75 insurance court case before, detailing who transported the money. I just noticed that the insurance coverage was for $250k, not $200k which I think some mythology had created. $20k deductible. I believe a certain poster here posted that 'mythology' as a fact, claiming that someone who worked in the insurance industry would know that. I'm not sure how to do a search with enough terms to verify that without reading through hundreds of posts though.Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowmman 3 #6784 December 31, 2008 377 said "Did F 106s chase the 727?" Yeah, two F-106s from the 318th FIS at McChord.. we covered all that. There were additionally F-102's that never made contact, according to the Norjak book. Dispatched from Idaho Air National Guard, from Boise. But they didn't make contact. Hell, I even posted the name of the manager from Seafirst who brought the money to the airport. I wonder if he just drove his own car? Wouldn't that have been a great idea to do a robbery of the guy delivering the hijack money? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowmman 3 #6785 December 31, 2008 QuoteQuoteI had posted details of '75 insurance court case before, detailing who transported the money. I just noticed that the insurance coverage was for $250k, not $200k which I think some mythology had created. $20k deductible. I believe a certain poster here posted that 'mythology' as a fact, claiming that someone who worked in the insurance industry would know that. I'm not sure how to do a search with enough terms to verify that without reading through hundreds of posts though. well I provided the link above for the court case where northwest had to go to court to get the money from the insurance guys. I didn't get the full article cause you have to pay, but there's enough there at the link I provided to say it's true, right? I mean we should be able to take court case docs as "close to fact" right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orange1 0 #6786 December 31, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteI had posted details of '75 insurance court case before, detailing who transported the money. I just noticed that the insurance coverage was for $250k, not $200k which I think some mythology had created. $20k deductible. I believe a certain poster here posted that 'mythology' as a fact, claiming that someone who worked in the insurance industry would know that. I'm not sure how to do a search with enough terms to verify that without reading through hundreds of posts though. well I provided the link above for the court case where northwest had to go to court to get the money from the insurance guys. I didn't get the full article cause you have to pay, but there's enough there at the link I provided to say it's true, right? I mean we should be able to take court case docs as "close to fact" right? Agreed, I was just trying to identify the source of the myth...Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 22 #6787 December 31, 2008 Quote well I provided the link above for the court case where northwest had to go to court to get the money from the insurance guys. I didn't get the full article cause you have to pay, but there's enough there at the link I provided to say it's true, right? I mean we should be able to take court case docs as "close to fact" right? Yes, you can call it a fact. If anyone really wants it, I can probably get the full case opinion, but there wont be much more useful info. Insurers spend a fortune fighting payouts. I have had to fight them quite a few times in the corp world. Few just honor the policies without a squawk if the claim is really big. They often fight hoping you will settle for less than the covered loss. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowmman 3 #6788 December 31, 2008 Evidently this was only used by Mexicana airline because of the high, hot air of Mexico City. There's a test video, I think made around 1970 on youtube here, of a rocket assisted take off. 3 rockets on each wing. They fire in sequence at 10 sec intervals. Pretty cool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7LErwBNobU (it's a video of something playing on a tv) I'm always curious if I can find something 377 hasn't seen before...? The RATO bottles evidently supplied 13,000 lbs of extra thrust for emergencies and take-off. Mexico City is at 7000 ft. You can Google for stuff on this, there are plenty of other references, so it's not b.s.? I didn't find a good still of a Mexicana plane though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowmman 3 #6789 December 31, 2008 satisfying DZ.com rule to incorporate boobies every 250 posts. Attached is an actual D.B. Cooper T-shirt, from 1971. the one the guy printed with the "where are you" thing. second pic has a zoom showing the copyright 1971 and "Dick Kaiser" Dick was quoted on Jan 7, 1972 as believing he helped start the "legend". from google news: Corpus Christi Caller-Times - Jan 8, 1972 Money making effort Dick Kaiser of Portland, Ore., believes he started the D. B. Cooper legend with the T shirt ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowmman 3 #6790 December 31, 2008 there's a bunch of bands and songs named after Cooper. There's been some new songs in the last two years actually. Here are 3 I liked. The first is kinda retro images and odd. I liked the lyrics actually. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKhdijAzN_k "Hijacking a hijacked plane To fly home And grow old To get home To die young" I think the reference to 'told his wife' and "suffered from nightmares" might be Duane/Jo reference..! Two more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbNa1cAUFiQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBrIoNrXXu8 here's a recent CD released one from the UK! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kysg6OX3Jg lyrics to D.B. Cooper by Senses Fail I'm leaving home Above the clouds with silver wings I feel my guts slowly drop as engines sing My teeth are clenched 'Cause gravity is defied I'm at a place where I feel dead inside I know I can take back what I never lend 'Cause all my plan is crushed in the end Desperate As I slip the screws out from the seat I need a way to breathe The wind Takes the fusell lodge from the tail piece I hope it sets me free With my nose pressed up to the window pane I lost the lights so now they dance in rain I breathe out to make a canvis for your name I can't realise my shoulders carry the blame I know I can take back what I never lend 'Cause all my plan is crushed in the end Desperate As I slip the screws out from the seat I need a way to breathe The wind Takes the fusell lodge from the tail piece I hope it sets me free I look below and way the rip And now the bag is up, I'll be dropping wind I'm diseased just like my father He says it comes from my mother I hope my son does not catch it Look at what I have to do to survive I hurt myself just to feel alive I don't know if I'll make it back home 'Cause I don't know if there's no hope left there Everyone's looking for someway I am looking for the one way out I've been wasting my time Standing in line And this is what life is all about Desperate As I slip the screws out from the seat I need a way to breathe The wind Takes the fusel lodge from the tail piece I hope it sets me free Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #6791 December 31, 2008 QuoteI found this on the web it's from an article I ran across. "The task at first seemed simple. Authorities at Tacoma's McChord Air Force Base agreed to provide military-issue chutes. But Cooper—through a flight attendant messenger—rejected the military chutes, which have automatic opening mechanisms. Cooper insisted on civilian chutes, with user-operated ripcords. After a series of urgent phone calls, Seattle cops managed to make contact with the owner of a skydiving school. The business was closed, but the owner was pressed into service. He met officers at the school, and soon a police car with lights flashing and siren screaming raced to Sea-Tac Airport with a precious cargo of four parachutes" I thought there was no discussion from Cooper about military vs sport equipment??????? can sombody verify this or refute it. The other question I can't find the answer too is, he boarded the plan without sunglasses then spoke to Tina without sunglasses cause she remarked on his eyes, Where did the composite with the sunglasses come into play of the timeline??????? And the last question. We have not discussed the hat at all. Why leave a Tie but take or chuck the hat? This confuses me. Do you believe everything you read on a Web Site...I have found all sorts of misinformation there. Tina was NOT the one he spoke to without GLASSEs - that was Florence Shaffner. Many of these individuals who do WEB SITE - do it for entertainment. Myth versus Fact.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 255 #6792 December 31, 2008 QuoteWe've gone back and forth on who got what bills back in 1986 after the court decision. Actually it was me wondering about the count, based on video snaps. Reply> I went back and looked at those vid snaps. These photos cant be showing all of the money, can they? G. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 255 #6793 December 31, 2008 QuoteQuote It was a Huey chopper, not a T-33 that was the slow chase "plane". T-33 isn't myth, as far as I can tell. A T-33 was directed to chase. This has been posted about before here. It's in Tosaw's book or the Nojak book. Forgot which. It didn't get involved until too late. The chopper thing, I get confused about all the time. We've posted details about the chopper and pilots before. I'm still unclear whether H. was up that night or the next day as part of search. (edit) Heli pilots were likely Lt. Col. Gale Goyins and Maj. William Gottlieb. Oregon National Guard S&R heli pilots? (edit) repost of my prior post/notes about the T-33. It was in the Norjak book. The T33 trainer jet was diverted to follow. Note that Lake Oswego is south of Portland, so all their info doesn't help, since it was after the jump. Norman Battaglia was going to Portland Air Base for a night training mission, about 5:30 pm. He and pilot Dick Perry went thru their pre-flight, took off around 7:50. Battaglia was Air National Guard officer, in back seat as instructor-pilot. Shortly after they were airborne, they were told to switch radio to Seattle Center, and Seattle told them to trail 305.... They turned toward Lake Oswego, putting them about 3 miles behind 305. They made radar contact and noted 305 was changing course 45 degrees every 30 seconds. He had to throttle back to 135 knots and fly with landing gear and flaps down to maintain contact. Near Eugene they were told to break contact, go to Kingsley Field in Klamath Falls. They say they never saw the 727. At one point they were about 3/4 mile away. I am sure Ive read H was in that chase plane, in fact he ordered it up once they realised the jets were ineffective. G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites georger 255 #6794 December 31, 2008 QuoteI remember arguing hard with Jo (might have been in PMs). I was quite sure 727s had never dropped anything much less people before Norjack. She was 100% sure they had during the Viet Nam war. Boy was I wrong and I consider myself an aviation history buff. Kinda nice to see one of Jo's seemingly wild ideas vindicated. I know some of you don't want to say anything positive about Jo, but it is only fair to say she was right and I was wrong about pre Norjack 727 airdrops. Happy New Year to Jo and everyone else. 377 That has always been one of the major problems with Jo's info. She can be dead-right about some things, she can find info, she talks to a zillion people, over the years she has been one of the very best at digging out information some of which comes from principles in Washington .... and if she doesnt have something she will turn Heaven and Earth over to try and find it. Its no wonder H took her seriously. The problem is her net brings some really bogus information also. And the info she has never seems connect as she hopes it will, especially confirming Duane as being Cooper. If Jo was a pure researcher she might be irreplacable. When you (377) and Jo got into this topic of 727's being used for drops in Nam I sat by saying nothing, because I already knew Jo was right. It was just a matter of finding a document to document it, vs Jo's anecdotes, or mine... It always comes down to proof. G. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #6795 December 31, 2008 QuoteQuoteWe've gone back and forth on who got what bills back in 1986 after the court decision. Actually it was me wondering about the count, based on video snaps. Reply> I went back and looked at those vid snaps. These photos cant be showing all of the money, can they? G. If these 12 made up 3 bundles, and a single bill is .0043" thick, then 100 bills would be half an inch or so thick minimally? one inch max say due to imperfect compression? So yeah, I guess they could be it. Each of those 12 bundles maybe 1/6 to 1/3 inch thick? 33 bills or so in each? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #6796 December 31, 2008 Quote I am sure Ive read H was in that chase plane, in fact he ordered it up once they realised the jets were ineffective. G The T-33? No way. It's a two seat trainer, right? Dick Perry had the other seat. See the post. No room for H. I'll have to go read Norjak again to see if H claims to have been in a Huey during the hijack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #6797 December 31, 2008 Quote When you (377) and Jo got into this topic of 727's being used for drops in Nam I sat by saying nothing, because I already knew Jo was right. Have people lost their f*ing minds? There is NO evidence that 727's were used for air drops in vietnam. Geez georger, you're admitting you're like Jo here. There is evidence of a test drop, likely at Takhli. There is no other evidence other than bullshit or speculation. There is no evidence the 727 in question was ever in vietnam. We talk about information moving around SE Asia, and now you're talking airdrops in Vietnam? What evidence did you have when you were quiet? You didn't have jack shit. If you have anything, let's hear it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjack71 0 #6798 December 31, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI had posted details of '75 insurance court case before, detailing who transported the money. I just noticed that the insurance coverage was for $250k, not $200k which I think some mythology had created. $20k deductible. I believe a certain poster here posted that 'mythology' as a fact, claiming that someone who worked in the insurance industry would know that. I'm not sure how to do a search with enough terms to verify that without reading through hundreds of posts though. well I provided the link above for the court case where northwest had to go to court to get the money from the insurance guys. I didn't get the full article cause you have to pay, but there's enough there at the link I provided to say it's true, right? I mean we should be able to take court case docs as "close to fact" right? Agreed, I was just trying to identify the source of the myth... Snowman: I may have been the one who said 200K as the insurance - but didn't know the exact amount of the policy. What I was saying or trying to say is that the highjacker did not ask for more than what would have been covered by the policy because I believed that Cooper had knowledge of this coverage. As I have said I never thought everything I was saying would be analyzed over and over. The point was that Cooper did NOT ask for an amount above what Northwest was covered for.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #6799 December 31, 2008 Quote Snowman: I may have been the one who said 200K as the insurance - but didn't know the exact amount of the policy. What I was saying or trying to say is that the highjacker did not ask for more than what would have been covered by the policy because I believed that Cooper had knowledge of this coverage. As I have said I never thought everything I was saying would be analyzed over and over. The point was that Cooper did NOT ask for an amount above what Northwest was covered for. Hi Jo. Whatever. You made it up. If you had a document that suggested $200k to you, that would be interesting if you could scan it. But otherwise, it's just another random thing you made up. Don't care what you believed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Orange1 0 #6800 December 31, 2008 Quote fusell lodge presumably fuselage??Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 Next Page 272 of 2584 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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georger 255 #6793 December 31, 2008 QuoteQuote It was a Huey chopper, not a T-33 that was the slow chase "plane". T-33 isn't myth, as far as I can tell. A T-33 was directed to chase. This has been posted about before here. It's in Tosaw's book or the Nojak book. Forgot which. It didn't get involved until too late. The chopper thing, I get confused about all the time. We've posted details about the chopper and pilots before. I'm still unclear whether H. was up that night or the next day as part of search. (edit) Heli pilots were likely Lt. Col. Gale Goyins and Maj. William Gottlieb. Oregon National Guard S&R heli pilots? (edit) repost of my prior post/notes about the T-33. It was in the Norjak book. The T33 trainer jet was diverted to follow. Note that Lake Oswego is south of Portland, so all their info doesn't help, since it was after the jump. Norman Battaglia was going to Portland Air Base for a night training mission, about 5:30 pm. He and pilot Dick Perry went thru their pre-flight, took off around 7:50. Battaglia was Air National Guard officer, in back seat as instructor-pilot. Shortly after they were airborne, they were told to switch radio to Seattle Center, and Seattle told them to trail 305.... They turned toward Lake Oswego, putting them about 3 miles behind 305. They made radar contact and noted 305 was changing course 45 degrees every 30 seconds. He had to throttle back to 135 knots and fly with landing gear and flaps down to maintain contact. Near Eugene they were told to break contact, go to Kingsley Field in Klamath Falls. They say they never saw the 727. At one point they were about 3/4 mile away. I am sure Ive read H was in that chase plane, in fact he ordered it up once they realised the jets were ineffective. G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georger 255 #6794 December 31, 2008 QuoteI remember arguing hard with Jo (might have been in PMs). I was quite sure 727s had never dropped anything much less people before Norjack. She was 100% sure they had during the Viet Nam war. Boy was I wrong and I consider myself an aviation history buff. Kinda nice to see one of Jo's seemingly wild ideas vindicated. I know some of you don't want to say anything positive about Jo, but it is only fair to say she was right and I was wrong about pre Norjack 727 airdrops. Happy New Year to Jo and everyone else. 377 That has always been one of the major problems with Jo's info. She can be dead-right about some things, she can find info, she talks to a zillion people, over the years she has been one of the very best at digging out information some of which comes from principles in Washington .... and if she doesnt have something she will turn Heaven and Earth over to try and find it. Its no wonder H took her seriously. The problem is her net brings some really bogus information also. And the info she has never seems connect as she hopes it will, especially confirming Duane as being Cooper. If Jo was a pure researcher she might be irreplacable. When you (377) and Jo got into this topic of 727's being used for drops in Nam I sat by saying nothing, because I already knew Jo was right. It was just a matter of finding a document to document it, vs Jo's anecdotes, or mine... It always comes down to proof. G. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowmman 3 #6795 December 31, 2008 QuoteQuoteWe've gone back and forth on who got what bills back in 1986 after the court decision. Actually it was me wondering about the count, based on video snaps. Reply> I went back and looked at those vid snaps. These photos cant be showing all of the money, can they? G. If these 12 made up 3 bundles, and a single bill is .0043" thick, then 100 bills would be half an inch or so thick minimally? one inch max say due to imperfect compression? So yeah, I guess they could be it. Each of those 12 bundles maybe 1/6 to 1/3 inch thick? 33 bills or so in each? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #6796 December 31, 2008 Quote I am sure Ive read H was in that chase plane, in fact he ordered it up once they realised the jets were ineffective. G The T-33? No way. It's a two seat trainer, right? Dick Perry had the other seat. See the post. No room for H. I'll have to go read Norjak again to see if H claims to have been in a Huey during the hijack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #6797 December 31, 2008 Quote When you (377) and Jo got into this topic of 727's being used for drops in Nam I sat by saying nothing, because I already knew Jo was right. Have people lost their f*ing minds? There is NO evidence that 727's were used for air drops in vietnam. Geez georger, you're admitting you're like Jo here. There is evidence of a test drop, likely at Takhli. There is no other evidence other than bullshit or speculation. There is no evidence the 727 in question was ever in vietnam. We talk about information moving around SE Asia, and now you're talking airdrops in Vietnam? What evidence did you have when you were quiet? You didn't have jack shit. If you have anything, let's hear it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjack71 0 #6798 December 31, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI had posted details of '75 insurance court case before, detailing who transported the money. I just noticed that the insurance coverage was for $250k, not $200k which I think some mythology had created. $20k deductible. I believe a certain poster here posted that 'mythology' as a fact, claiming that someone who worked in the insurance industry would know that. I'm not sure how to do a search with enough terms to verify that without reading through hundreds of posts though. well I provided the link above for the court case where northwest had to go to court to get the money from the insurance guys. I didn't get the full article cause you have to pay, but there's enough there at the link I provided to say it's true, right? I mean we should be able to take court case docs as "close to fact" right? Agreed, I was just trying to identify the source of the myth... Snowman: I may have been the one who said 200K as the insurance - but didn't know the exact amount of the policy. What I was saying or trying to say is that the highjacker did not ask for more than what would have been covered by the policy because I believed that Cooper had knowledge of this coverage. As I have said I never thought everything I was saying would be analyzed over and over. The point was that Cooper did NOT ask for an amount above what Northwest was covered for.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snowmman 3 #6799 December 31, 2008 Quote Snowman: I may have been the one who said 200K as the insurance - but didn't know the exact amount of the policy. What I was saying or trying to say is that the highjacker did not ask for more than what would have been covered by the policy because I believed that Cooper had knowledge of this coverage. As I have said I never thought everything I was saying would be analyzed over and over. The point was that Cooper did NOT ask for an amount above what Northwest was covered for. Hi Jo. Whatever. You made it up. If you had a document that suggested $200k to you, that would be interesting if you could scan it. But otherwise, it's just another random thing you made up. Don't care what you believed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Orange1 0 #6800 December 31, 2008 Quote fusell lodge presumably fuselage??Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 Next Page 272 of 2584 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 51 51
snowmman 3 #6796 December 31, 2008 Quote I am sure Ive read H was in that chase plane, in fact he ordered it up once they realised the jets were ineffective. G The T-33? No way. It's a two seat trainer, right? Dick Perry had the other seat. See the post. No room for H. I'll have to go read Norjak again to see if H claims to have been in a Huey during the hijack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowmman 3 #6797 December 31, 2008 Quote When you (377) and Jo got into this topic of 727's being used for drops in Nam I sat by saying nothing, because I already knew Jo was right. Have people lost their f*ing minds? There is NO evidence that 727's were used for air drops in vietnam. Geez georger, you're admitting you're like Jo here. There is evidence of a test drop, likely at Takhli. There is no other evidence other than bullshit or speculation. There is no evidence the 727 in question was ever in vietnam. We talk about information moving around SE Asia, and now you're talking airdrops in Vietnam? What evidence did you have when you were quiet? You didn't have jack shit. If you have anything, let's hear it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjack71 0 #6798 December 31, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI had posted details of '75 insurance court case before, detailing who transported the money. I just noticed that the insurance coverage was for $250k, not $200k which I think some mythology had created. $20k deductible. I believe a certain poster here posted that 'mythology' as a fact, claiming that someone who worked in the insurance industry would know that. I'm not sure how to do a search with enough terms to verify that without reading through hundreds of posts though. well I provided the link above for the court case where northwest had to go to court to get the money from the insurance guys. I didn't get the full article cause you have to pay, but there's enough there at the link I provided to say it's true, right? I mean we should be able to take court case docs as "close to fact" right? Agreed, I was just trying to identify the source of the myth... Snowman: I may have been the one who said 200K as the insurance - but didn't know the exact amount of the policy. What I was saying or trying to say is that the highjacker did not ask for more than what would have been covered by the policy because I believed that Cooper had knowledge of this coverage. As I have said I never thought everything I was saying would be analyzed over and over. The point was that Cooper did NOT ask for an amount above what Northwest was covered for.Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowmman 3 #6799 December 31, 2008 Quote Snowman: I may have been the one who said 200K as the insurance - but didn't know the exact amount of the policy. What I was saying or trying to say is that the highjacker did not ask for more than what would have been covered by the policy because I believed that Cooper had knowledge of this coverage. As I have said I never thought everything I was saying would be analyzed over and over. The point was that Cooper did NOT ask for an amount above what Northwest was covered for. Hi Jo. Whatever. You made it up. If you had a document that suggested $200k to you, that would be interesting if you could scan it. But otherwise, it's just another random thing you made up. Don't care what you believed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orange1 0 #6800 December 31, 2008 Quote fusell lodge presumably fuselage??Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
