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georger 256
Two other forces which might have helped bring
money to Tina Bar or expose it, including earthquakes and storms/flooding. We discussed some of this before.
Here are a few urls and notes Ive been exploring:
http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema?id=53
http://www.climate.washington.edu/stormking/
Earthquakes Recorded by the University of Washington Seismograph Network
Since 1968:
Major Earthques:
·1872 12 15 - Lake Chelan, Washington - M 6.8
·1949 04 13 - Puget Sound, Washington - M 7.1 Fatalities 8
·1965 04 29 - Puget Sound, Washington - M 6.5 Fatalities 7
·1980 05 18 - Mount St. Helens, Washington - M 5.0
·2001 02 28 - Nisqually, Washington - M 6.8
·2002 06 16 - Kitsap Peninsula, Washington - M 3.7
·2002 09 21 - Friday Harbor, Washington - M 4.1
·2003 05 30 - Port Orchard, Washington - M 3.7
·2003 06 20 - Carnation, Washington - M 3.6
**There were no major earthquakes during the
period 11/24/71 - 2/10/80. However, there are an
estimated ~1000 minor tremors in the State of Washington yearly, most concentrated in the
west coastal plate area. These minor tremors do
sometimes have a tidal effect which passes down
the Columbia to the Portland-Vancouver area.
See webites above for more explanation -
++++++++++++++++++++++++
Storms Washington – FEMA Declarations & WSU Wx storm records:
1983 01/27 SEVERE STORMS, HIGH TIDES, FLOODING 676
1980 05/21 VOLCANIC ERUPTION, MT. ST. HELENS 623
1979 12/31 STORMS, HIGH TIDES, MUDSLIDES, FLOODING 612
1979 02/13 WINDSTORM - KITSAP BLOWNDOWN - SEA + HOOD CANAL
BRIDGE DESTROYED
1979 03/12 Flooding 3070
1977 12/15 WINDSTORM – PUGET SOUND
1977 12/10 SEVERE STORMS,MUDSLIDES, FLOODING 545
1977 03/31 Drought 3037
1975 12/13 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 492
1975 11/09-10 WINDSTORM – COASTAL STORM INCURSION MID OREGON
TO FAR EASTERN WASHINGTON
1971 03/04 WINDSTORMS – PORTLAND TO OREGON COAST
1974 01/25 SEVERE STORMS, SNOWMELT, FLOODING 414
1972 06/10 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 334
1972 03/24 Heavy Rains, Flooding 328
1972 02/01 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 322
1971 03/25-26 SEVERE STORM, WINDSTORM – HIT PORTLAND-VANCOUVER
1971 02/09 Heavy Rains, Melting Snow, Flooding 300
1965 05/11 Earthquake 196 [no registered storms until 1971]
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Hopfully you willfind something here of interest.
Georger
money to Tina Bar or expose it, including earthquakes and storms/flooding. We discussed some of this before.
Here are a few urls and notes Ive been exploring:
http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters_state.fema?id=53
http://www.climate.washington.edu/stormking/
Earthquakes Recorded by the University of Washington Seismograph Network
Since 1968:
Major Earthques:
·1872 12 15 - Lake Chelan, Washington - M 6.8
·1949 04 13 - Puget Sound, Washington - M 7.1 Fatalities 8
·1965 04 29 - Puget Sound, Washington - M 6.5 Fatalities 7
·1980 05 18 - Mount St. Helens, Washington - M 5.0
·2001 02 28 - Nisqually, Washington - M 6.8
·2002 06 16 - Kitsap Peninsula, Washington - M 3.7
·2002 09 21 - Friday Harbor, Washington - M 4.1
·2003 05 30 - Port Orchard, Washington - M 3.7
·2003 06 20 - Carnation, Washington - M 3.6
**There were no major earthquakes during the
period 11/24/71 - 2/10/80. However, there are an
estimated ~1000 minor tremors in the State of Washington yearly, most concentrated in the
west coastal plate area. These minor tremors do
sometimes have a tidal effect which passes down
the Columbia to the Portland-Vancouver area.
See webites above for more explanation -
++++++++++++++++++++++++
Storms Washington – FEMA Declarations & WSU Wx storm records:
1983 01/27 SEVERE STORMS, HIGH TIDES, FLOODING 676
1980 05/21 VOLCANIC ERUPTION, MT. ST. HELENS 623
1979 12/31 STORMS, HIGH TIDES, MUDSLIDES, FLOODING 612
1979 02/13 WINDSTORM - KITSAP BLOWNDOWN - SEA + HOOD CANAL
BRIDGE DESTROYED
1979 03/12 Flooding 3070
1977 12/15 WINDSTORM – PUGET SOUND
1977 12/10 SEVERE STORMS,MUDSLIDES, FLOODING 545
1977 03/31 Drought 3037
1975 12/13 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 492
1975 11/09-10 WINDSTORM – COASTAL STORM INCURSION MID OREGON
TO FAR EASTERN WASHINGTON
1971 03/04 WINDSTORMS – PORTLAND TO OREGON COAST
1974 01/25 SEVERE STORMS, SNOWMELT, FLOODING 414
1972 06/10 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 334
1972 03/24 Heavy Rains, Flooding 328
1972 02/01 SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING 322
1971 03/25-26 SEVERE STORM, WINDSTORM – HIT PORTLAND-VANCOUVER
1971 02/09 Heavy Rains, Melting Snow, Flooding 300
1965 05/11 Earthquake 196 [no registered storms until 1971]
===============================
Hopfully you willfind something here of interest.
Georger
georger 256
No it's just funny more than anything.
You went on about biometrics and simple measurements.
Someone said they had a tool, which should basically just suck in anything.
Yet it sounds like the pics are rejected based on a human scan.
It's just funny.
Reply> Itis funny because that is exactly what
my friend said: "......... looks like these are
yearbook photos........................
He didnt even submit them to the system.
It is not our role to test the Honeywell system.
You may think you are doing them a favor; they
see it the other way around, in this case.... and
I am in the middle!
G.
snowmman 3
Yes I obviously forgot the seriousness of Honeywell's involvement in figuring out who DB Cooper is/was.
I hang my head in shame.
I hang my head in shame.
Orange1 0
For Georger
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I Am Sorry, I thought the email was directed at me - with all of the quotes and copies of replies we use it is hard to tell - I used to not do " reply" and it saved space. Then later because others might not know what post I was referring to - I started doing "quotes" from the post I was answering.
Now I am doing what you guys do - it causes so many posts to show - I get lost, but what do you expect from someone "Most Likely to Get Lost in a Crowd."
P.S. Georger - I didn't give the FBI a hard time UNTIL AFTER March of 2000 when Agent Hope told me that "Duane had never been in the Army nor at McNeil" and I had proof to the contrary, Yet the FBI propagated and still do a statement dated 1998 that Duane had been investigated thoroughly and ruled out as a suspect.
For ORANGE: If you were smart enough to figure out I was responding to a post not meant for me - couldn't you just politely have stated "Jo, that post was not directed at you." As for Outbursts, at least I only expressed an emotion.
No Jo, I wasn't that smart, I assumed it was meant for Georger. Read back at what you wrote and tell me honestly it "only expressed an emotion"??
Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.
For Georger
Now I am doing what you guys do - it causes so many posts to show - I get lost, but what do you expect from someone "Most Likely to Get Lost in a Crowd."
P.S. Georger - I didn't give the FBI a hard time UNTIL AFTER March of 2000 when Agent Hope told me that "Duane had never been in the Army nor at McNeil" and I had proof to the contrary, Yet the FBI propagated and still do a statement dated 1998 that Duane had been investigated thoroughly and ruled out as a suspect.
For ORANGE: If you were smart enough to figure out I was responding to a post not meant for me - couldn't you just politely have stated "Jo, that post was not directed at you." As for Outbursts, at least I only expressed an emotion.
No Jo, I wasn't that smart, I assumed it was meant for Georger. Read back at what you wrote and tell me honestly it "only expressed an emotion"??
Casting for appearances on a Jerry Springer show.
Slots available.
-The target-person who sits there and puts up with
the ranting abuse and doesn't particularly respond.
-The in-your-face significant-other who screams,
and eventually slaps someone, followed by a tearful
disclaimer about the unfairness of any disagreeing response.
-The alcoholic cousin/uncle who scowls and
threatens quietly.
-The neighbor who provides an accurate description
of the situation, but is immediately over-shouted and
ignored.
It could be a great show.
georger 256
Yes I obviously forgot the seriousness of Honeywell's involvement in figuring out who DB Cooper is/was.
I hang my head in shame.
The only shame here is to me for having started it -
I will end it then we can all get back to tracing wombats
in Nairobi.
georger 256
For Georger
Now I am doing what you guys do - it causes so many posts to show - I get lost, but what do you expect from someone "Most Likely to Get Lost in a Crowd."
P.S. Georger - I didn't give the FBI a hard time UNTIL AFTER March of 2000 when Agent Hope told me that "Duane had never been in the Army nor at McNeil" and I had proof to the contrary, Yet the FBI propagated and still do a statement dated 1998 that Duane had been investigated thoroughly and ruled out as a suspect.
For ORANGE: If you were smart enough to figure out I was responding to a post not meant for me - couldn't you just politely have stated "Jo, that post was not directed at you." As for Outbursts, at least I only expressed an emotion.
No Jo, I wasn't that smart, I assumed it was meant for Georger. Read back at what you wrote and tell me honestly it "only expressed an emotion"??
Alas, and to think this used to be about Cooper.
The score by now is Jo 780 and us 0. Somebody
call this game before somebody gets hurt - is
"0" a prime number? I used to know!
G.
georger 256
Yes I obviously forgot the seriousness of Honeywell's involvement in figuring out who DB Cooper is/was.
I hang my head in shame.
well, the fact is you did PM me once and told me
you had a viable candidate, and more. But I know
you would never trust a serious photo to Honeywell
or me. You work alone or with people you trust.
Send it to Tom.
Georger
I need some help from you guys - I have a lead, but don't know where to go with it or how to find what I did find at one time.
There was a man in the OR, WA, ID, and 2 other states around there as a rodeo man. He may have had Indian hertitage in him.
He would have been born in the mid to late 20's. He was involved in forestry or smokejumping - He may have been a veteran, but also may have been a Conscientious Objector.
Does anyone remember reading about a man that was a rodeo man with the ability or knowledge of jumping as for the forestry or in the service. He may have been connected with some kind of mining and hwy construction (pipeline or powerlines). His last name may have been Sears.
He may even have been an ex-con with Vancouver and Portland connections...farms and orchards.
This case IS going to get solved and we can DO it. WE can DO IT.
You have explored all of the hows and how nots - help me find the suspects that the FBI may have looked at and dismissed or didn't look at all.
Sure would be great to have the list of 1000 plus names the FBI has claimed to have investigated.
If the FBI put that in our hands - I bet we could solve it. Betcha that Carr has that list and he is checking it twice - not for your benefit nor mine.
I remembered reading an article about a man Yrs ago - who was involved in jumping, but known as a rodeo man - I can't find it any more. I know I printed it, but unable to search my files with computer like you guys. It could have been a smokejumper article that mentioned this man being a rodeo man.
This memory connects back to Duane - in a different way, but it is a HOT lead. One that bears exploring very thoroughly.
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Orange1 0
hmmm... coincidence or...? (everyone seems interested in smokejumpers suddenly..) Anyway, here goes from a web search, which almost immediately showed a connection between smokejumpers, SE Asia/Air America and rodeo. This was the first site I opened so there are bound to be many more
Johnson continued to talk about a fellow smokejumper, Ken Hessel. He then talked briefly about smokejumpers, including himself and Hessel, who worked for the CIA in Southeast Asia.
.......
Some smokejumpers during Johnson’s time, including Johnson, tried to rodeo during the time away from smokejumping. (He talked about a couple of particular rodeos, including one that the smokejumpers fought, after the rodeo, with the professional cowboys).
In the book, Tragic Mountains, the author told a story about a rodeo held in Laos at a military outpost called Long Chieng between Johnson and Jerry “Hog” Daniels. Johnson talked in detail about this event. Daniels’ bull bucked him off quickly. Johnson rode his bull, so he was declared the winner. Johnson said later he was disqualified because he rode the bull with two hands. There was no rematch, because the North Vietnamese bombed the area soon after the event
from http://209.85.175.132/search?q=cache:iMBmSKEf414J:www.idahohistory.net/smokejumper/sj_indexes/johnson.pdf+smokejumper+rodeo&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=za
Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.
You went on about biometrics and simple measurements.
Someone said they had a tool, which should basically just suck in anything.
Yet it sounds like the pics are rejected based on a human scan.
It's just funny.
I think the bigger issue is that the software the guy has isn't as good as he says it is.
If the software was good, there'd just be numbers or something, saying what you're saying. No numbers = the software is no good or requires manual intervention which is the same as no good.
Remember how I said TSA is security theatre? So is a lot of this facial recognition stuff people are trying to sell to airports etc.
No one wants to say how bad it is because hey, the taxpayers are footing the bill, so why blow a good thing?
(edit) Now that I think about it, I grabbed the photos from pics of high school faculty in yearbooks from '65-'70. I didn't register it at the time, but yeah of course there are some that are just different by one year. I just noticed that. I was focused on just rejecting obviously way-off faces, and didn't think about the duplicate issue.
BUT: it gives you the perfect opportunity to say which are different by just one year. Good software would have no problem with this.
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