DB Cooper

[snowmman 3]

on being a parent:

When I type on the keyboard. I have 3 dogs staring at me, for like an hour solid, without moving, each with a ball in front of them. All they want is for me to throw the ball. And I don't.

Now THAT's a guilt trip.

And I'm thinking about Jo's example, and I don't really have the feeling that I wished my mom lied to me more. Would anyone want that?

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I hope Bruce can flush out all the inconsistencies in Petey's story, especially about being interviewed by the FBI in 1971.

Where has Jerry gone? Maybe he has decided to switch to scuba diving or remote controlled camera subs for his Cooper body hunt.

I still think the money could have landed in the river and Cooper on land, so keep up the terrestrial hunt Jerry.

Jo keeps ignoring my call to present evidence that Duane was a parachutist.

You can be a woodcarver or a philosopher or many other things in a vacuum, but not a parachutist. It takes aircraft, gear, training, jumpmasters and all sorts of external contacts. If Duane ever jumped there would be ways to prove it. I say he never made a single parachute jump.

He didn't get an SCR, I checked the records. I got mine in the mid 70s. No Duane Weber or John Collins in the list.

http://starcrestawards.com/database/index.html


Curiously Petey didnt get one although I am pretty sure he qualified. Maybe Duane just was one of those modest jumpers who could do good RW but didnt need a patch to prove it.

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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When I type on the keyboard. I have 3 dogs staring at me, for like an hour solid, without moving, each with a ball in front of them. All they want is for me to throw the ball. And I don't.

You can expect a visit from DPS, Dog Protective Services.

Good thing dogs dont know how to use weapons. If they did, you'd be tossing the ball more frequently.

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

[snowmman 3]

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When I type on the keyboard. I have 3 dogs staring at me, for like an hour solid, without moving, each with a ball in front of them. All they want is for me to throw the ball. And I don't.

You can expect a visit from DPS, Dog Protective Services.

Good thing dogs dont know how to use weapons. If they did, you'd be tossing the ball more frequently.

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The classic thing is when they meet new non-dog-people and the dogs run up and drop the ball in their lap. And the people throw the ball, and the dogs come back with the ball. and the cycle repeats..and they think the dog is so cute...until the 50th time.

Meanwhile I mumble to myself "Okay, you trained another human".

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The classic thing is when they meet new non-dog-people and the dogs run up and drop the ball in their lap. And the people throw the ball, and the dogs come back with the ball. and the cycle repeats..and they think the dog is so cute...until the 50th time.

Is there a Jo analogy here? She gets the attention of newbies here, then after promising 50 times to produce probative evidence, they tire of her games.

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

[snowmman 3]

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The classic thing is when they meet new non-dog-people and the dogs run up and drop the ball in their lap. And the people throw the ball, and the dogs come back with the ball. and the cycle repeats..and they think the dog is so cute...until the 50th time.

Is there a Jo analogy here? She gets the attention of newbies here, then after promising 50 times to produce probative evidence, they tire of her games.

Yeah, it's probably exactly the same. See the newbs are confident they can add something..i.e. that Jo is just a dottering old lady that needs a little help, and that they can understand stuff others don't.

There was one time, one dog got out in the front yard, without my wife realizing it. And there's a knock at the door, and this women is saying "Oh I think your dog is hurt, she's laying there raising her paw at me"...all concerned sounding (the one dog used to do this when she wanted people to pet her)

..and my wife scowls and calls to the dog to get inside, and the dog jumps up to the complete surprise of the woman, and runs inside the house.

Dogs study humans non-stop. They know exactly what actions of yours lead to what actions. My dogs can tell by looking at what shoes or boots I put on, what I'm going to do when I go outside.

[Orange1 0]

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on being a parent:

When I type on the keyboard. I have 3 dogs staring at me, for like an hour solid, without moving, each with a ball in front of them. All they want is for me to throw the ball. And I don't.

Now THAT's a guilt trip.

See, now, if you have cats they can curl up on your lap or between you and the chairback, and you can work and still feel like a good pet-parent as they lie there purring

Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

[snowmman 3]

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on being a parent:

When I type on the keyboard. I have 3 dogs staring at me, for like an hour solid, without moving, each with a ball in front of them. All they want is for me to throw the ball. And I don't.

Now THAT's a guilt trip.

See, now, if you have cats they can curl up on your lap or between you and the chairback, and you can work and still feel like a good pet-parent as they lie there purring

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our peak cat population was 3. It's down to 2 now. (they were all serious hunters. Mice had no chance. Birds and small field animals were problematic).

The oldest one now, was from a pair we got as kittens from a feral cat. Long story, but it ended up with me sawing thru the floor of a closet of a rental house to get them. I remember confronting the feral mother in a crawlspace in an earlier attempt, unable to move with her in my face. Now that was scary.

I'm not a cat person, but that one cat owes me! (weird seeing him old now..I still picture him as the young adventurous one, sitting up on top of some duct while the other one in the litter hid)

[airtwardo 7]

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on being a parent:

When I type on the keyboard. I have 3 dogs staring at me, for like an hour solid, without moving, each with a ball in front of them. All they want is for me to throw the ball. And I don't.

Now THAT's a guilt trip.

And I'm thinking about Jo's example, and I don't really have the feeling that I wished my mom lied to me more. Would anyone want that?

Three balls?


Walk 'em & pitch to the cat

~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~

[Orange1 0]

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The oldest one now, was from a pair we got as kittens from a feral cat. Long story, but it ended up with me sawing thru the floor of a closet of a rental house to get them.

There you go, proof positive (a first for this thread?! ) that Snow has a heart of gold

Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

[snowmman 3]

airtrwardo advised

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Walk 'em & pitch to the cat

the cats love nothing better than bringing a dazed mouse in the house. letting it go, and catching it again.

And when the oldest, best hunter (now dead) used to bring in a live squirrel, you could imagine the commotion of 3 dogs + 3 cats + squirrel all running around.

hmm. let me count the ways I'm not a cat person. Way back when, in another house, I was tarring the foundation walls for waterproofing.

Cat comes inside, after crawling in the trench and rubbing tar on it's fur.

So I have the bright idea of trying to use some kind of cleaner to get the tar off, holding the cat in the bathtub. Cat goes berserk, shredding the shower curtain, my arms, everything. I couldn't tell if I was going to die quicker if I let go of the cat or held on. Full-on crazed cat, claws, teeth, screaming.

I'm telling you, you want to be afraid of something? be afraid of cats. Especially if they sleep on your head.

(edit) the dogs don't mess with the cats. The youngest one would like to and tries sometimes, but changes its' mind quickly. :)

[airtwardo 7]

In a college psych class we had to do the old Pavlov's dog thing with rats pushing the little activation bar and sometimes getting a food pellet, sometimes not etc.

I named MY rat D.B. Cooper because he didn't like the bullshit game...

Chewed through the top of the enclosure one night, took a bunch of the food pellets from the tray and hit the bricks never to be seen again!

TRUE STORY!

~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~

[airtwardo 7]

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The oldest one now, was from a pair we got as kittens from a feral cat. Long story, but it ended up with me sawing thru the floor of a closet of a rental house to get them.

There you go, proof positive (a first for this thread?! ) that Snow has a heart of gold

Yer obviously not a landlord are ya!?

~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~

[georger 244]

The changes were made and all three agreed the final sketch looked like Cooper.

I think when you weigh each person's words it comes down to tolerances. Each changed the first draft, so each found that the draft was lacking. Perhaps Schaffner's tolerance for detail is more exacting than Mucklow and Hancock. So it's not that the sketches are so far off or people's memories of Cooper are way off. In fact, Schaffner didn't factually change the sketch, she just sharpened it, as did Mucklow and Hancock.

[georger 244]

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our peak cat population was 3. It's down to 2 now. (they were all serious hunters. Mice had no chance. Birds and small field animals were problematic).

[snowmman 3]

Georger on the Cooper sketches
"I dont know if its ethnic or racial or what it is"

Well, would you agree strong European? What about actual Belgium ancestry? I'm thinking of the comic book, oddly enough.

[snowmman 3]

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:)
our peak cat population was 3. It's down to 2 now. (they were all serious hunters. Mice had no chance. Birds and small field animals were problematic).

my neighbor is up to 54 cats, 10 skunks, uncountable racoons, cyotes, a few fox, 3 dogs,
240 cattle, ....... he feeds them all!

[snowmman 3]

georger mused "To my eyes Cooper's profile falls into a rather specific 'type' but I just can't nail the type!"

I'm not sure what 'type' encompasses. But since you mentioned "profile", I'm wondering if you mean more than physical appearance. Or are you trying to read something into physical appearance?

What about absent father? raised by mother?

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There you go, proof positive (a first for this thread?! ) that Snow has a heart of gold

That's kinda what I've been saying all along, but the rude and abrasive stuff destroyed my credibility.

Sluggo tells me Jo is a nice person in person and I have to believe it.

You can't judge a person entirely by their Internet personna.

Tha's why I like Georger even though it's obviously not mutual since I am blocked from PMing him. That's probably just his Internet bad self, not the real Georger.

CB radio was kinda like that back in the day. These loudmouth guys acted like they were really bad ass and behind the microphone was a 400 pound unemployed diabetic drinking a full liter of non diet Mountain Dew. You just couldn't tell.

Duane was a CBer with the doubious handle: Worlds Biggest Jock Carrier. Bet he was bad ass on the air, 10-4?

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

[low_pull1 2]

i cant believe u guys are still on here! not bored yet?

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We are like Snow's dogs. Same game 256 times no problem. 1024 same deal. They never tire. We don't either.

Is it a curse or blessing to be so easily amused? I am still pondering that question.

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

[snowmman 3]

you know, back in the thread, there's that constant refrain of "haven't you talked it to death?"

The weird thing about the Cooper thing is that we didn't really..we actually haven't spent a lot of time repeating the same old thing.

It seems like there's always a new spin, and there's always some new thing that crops up to chew over.

And when all else fails, we practice our insults.

I think of this thread as a test vehicle for DZ.com. Think of all the storage we use. And by being out in front on page numbers/post counts, other threads can rest easy knowing that they're not going to fail when they hit a certain page number.

It's a dirty job. Someone's got to do it.

[snowmman 3]

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We are like Snow's dogs. Same game 256 times no problem. 1024 same deal. They never tire. We don't either.

Is it a curse or blessing to be so easily amused? I am still pondering that question.

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Hey look, before anyone makes fun of this thread: make fun of the people who either pre-order or buy Geoffrey Gray's Cooper book this year.

Now that it silly!

(see you're never silly, if you can create some lower class of society that is more silly. Silliness is just a pecking order)

[snowmman 3]

The audio is here. mp3. you can just click on it

http://www.brianchurilla.com/db/DB_Cooper_Datafile_01.mp3

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http://thedbcooperdiaries.com/DB_intro.htm

On November 24th, 2001, several reels of encrypted analog data were discovered in an abandoned farmhouse in southwest Washington. Soon after, a team of Atlas Laboratories scientists and engineers were able to decrypt and extract a staggering amount of textual, audio and visual data from the reels. It is our belief here at Atlas Labs that within this fragmented data is a comprehensive imprint of D.B. Cooper’s psyche, and more importantly, reveals “The D.B. Copper Incident” for what it actually was. We unequivocally proclaim that it was not a hijacking and extortion plot as widely reported. In fact, this cover story is quite pedestrian, as what really happened nearly changed the course of human history.

[georger 244]

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The audio is here. mp3. you can just click on it

http://www.brianchurilla.com/db/DB_Cooper_Datafile_01.mp3

background
from
http://thedbcooperdiaries.com/DB_intro.htm

On November 24th, 2001, several reels of encrypted analog data were discovered in an abandoned farmhouse in southwest Washington. Soon after, a team of Atlas Laboratories scientists and engineers were able to decrypt and extract a staggering amount of textual, audio and visual data from the reels. It is our belief here at Atlas Labs that within this fragmented data is a comprehensive imprint of D.B. Cooper’s psyche, and more importantly, reveals “The D.B. Copper Incident” for what it actually was. We unequivocally proclaim that it was not a hijacking and extortion plot as widely reported. In fact, this cover story is quite pedestrian, as what really happened nearly changed the course of human history.

No doubt Sagan took this as precident for arguing
Voyage should include a recorded disk! Can Cooper
call home? Did he find the Voyager disk? Duane did!
Jo has it!