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"She put the information out of her mind. Her husband was likable and friendly, she says. And as he lay in the hospital in 1995, her thoughts were only on his condition. But when she didn't respond to his statement, Duane became upset and shouted so loudly the nurses heard his words: "Oh, let it die with me!" Moments later Duane was sedated; he died soon after. "

"Oh, let it die with me". (Duane's on words as given
by Jo Weber.)



Georger:
I fail to understand why this is such an issue with you. Media always does what is better for them in time and space. He died 11 days after the incident describe above.
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"Duane became upset and shouted so loudly the nurses heard his words: "Oh, let it die with me!"

Nurses plural.



:( ONE final time!. The nurses station was right out side of the door - hence why he asked me if there was anyone in the room. I was getting a cigarette out because they allowed him to smoke if I held the cigarette for him (due to the fact that he had broken fingers in his left hand that had not healed from a fall). He motioned that he did not want a cigarette and asked me to come closer (note I was several feet away from him at that moment). I sat down beside his bed after he said he had something to tell me and he motioned for me to come closer.

After his confession and several moments of TRYING to explain to me what he was TRYING to tell the BIMBO (me) who Dan Cooper was- THIS WAS WHEN HE SHOUTED "OH, FXXX, LET IT DIE WITH ME!". This was said very loudly and very strongly - 2 nurses came running into the room - thinking he was upset and one of them came back a few moments later with some pills or a shot (I don't remember).

There was NO ONE present in the room until he shouted.
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BTW: Is everyone aware the nurses who attended
Duane during this period Jo/Sluggo describes have been interviewed?




:)unless you ARE FBI you have NO WAY of knowing if that is TRUE. You have stated such things before and then you get upset when I think you must be or have been an employee of the federal government in some capacity.

If they were questioned, you have to remember that the FBI did NOT QUESTION anyone until 2 yrs after he died (how are the nurses going to remember a patient they tended that many yrs ago?)

Duane Weber died on March 28, 1995. On May 24, 1996 I contacted the FBI and they would not send anyone to my home until - March of 1997 to collect information. That makes 2 yrs.

Several months later agents were sent to question the man who bought the Van and question the woman who was in the room on the second day when he was talking about the "bucket" and to talk to others who might have known Duane Weber.

Georger:
THE STATEMENT YOU QUOTED BE LOW IS CORRECT other than the fact it did not get LOUD until I didn't understand what he was trying to tell me.

"I WILL assure you that DUANE did NOT MUMBLE a death bed confession. It was very matter of fact and very clear and very loud - it was 11 days before he died. He was still strong, but he could tolerate NO MORE diaylsis - he was tired of it. It was his choice to cease treatment. (all in colored caps the above)"

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"The day of the confession was right after he had told the Dr. he wanted to cease the dialysis and was very alert (no drugs) and asked the Dr. if he would want to continue to live in his body."


So,,,,, it appears the distinction Jo and Sluggo
are tying us up over is an issue of ALERTNESS!




;) Did it take everyone else that long to get the point? Sluggo and I are NOT the ones tying anyone up - you are the only one who has questioned this matter over and over and over and caused all of this repetition.
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Several (over 10) yrs ago I had a conversation with an FBI agent of record. In this conversation when I had been told by this or another Agent that my husband had never been in McNeil. The statement made by this agent is different - Your husband only PASSED thru McNeil.

I have had reason to review old files, etc. This statement I did NOT understand at the time as a prior agent had told me that Weber had never been in McNeil.

With information acquired in the last yr - I understand what this agent meant and why the sister mentioned he was only there for a very short time...

1. Agent 1 tells me Duane was
never in McNeil.
2. Sister tells me that Duane
was only processed at McNeil.
3. Agent 2 tells me Duane only
passed through.
4. Prison record shows he was
a resident of record for
several months.


:)
#1. just wanted to brush me off.
#2. Sister was hiding a secret.
#3. Agent actually told the truth
#4. Why do the records not
reflect where he actually
went? Why is this a BIG
SECRET?

This agent was the kindess and most informative of all the agents and I didn't write down his name - and have not taken time to go to my notes (logs) as this was prior to my acquiring a computer.

Hopefully what is happening in WA will provide answers to the above. OK Georger - go figure that one out with your "inside" information. I can assure anyone here that unless Georger worked for the FBI in some capacity there IS no WAY he knows if the nurses where questioned or not.

I question if the hospital would even have allowed this - as it had been 2 yrs before they sent someone to speak to me. They did not actually send investigator to question anyone until several months after that. After 2 1/2 yrs did those nurses still work there? If so could they even talk about this - was a confidentiality law enforce in 1997. How could a nurse remember a specific patient from 2 1/2 yrs prior? Questionable!

Perhaps Georger would care to clarify his source of information.

P.S. Georger -
1. Why are you so nit picking when it comes to Weber?
2. Are you writing a book?
3. Are you a fact checker?
4. What is your interest
regarding Weber?
5. Why do you do not third
degree others?
6. What is you motive?

If you really want to be a part of solving this and making Duane go away - then address the yrs of 1945 - thru 1949. Since you seem so positive that Weber was NOT Cooper - this should be a piece of CAKE for you. While you are at it - you might explain why Weber went back to WA in the 60's for a few wks? Who did he see? Where did he go? Why did he go?

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explain why Weber went back to WA in the 60's for a few wks? Who did he see? Where did he go? Why did he go?



Nobody here cares what the answers are, because it has nothing to do with the Cooper case.
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"She put the information out of her mind. Her husband was likable and friendly, she says. And as he lay in the hospital in 1995, her thoughts were only on his condition. But when she didn't respond to his statement, Duane became upset and shouted so loudly the nurses heard his words: "Oh, let it die with me!" Moments later Duane was sedated; he died soon after. "

"Oh, let it die with me". (Duane's on words as given
by Jo Weber.)



Georger:
I fail to understand why this is such an issue with you. Media always does what is better for them in time and space. He died 11 days after the incident describe above.
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"Duane became upset and shouted so loudly the nurses heard his words: "Oh, let it die with me!"

Nurses plural.



:( ONE final time!. The nurses station was right out side of the door - hence why he asked me if there was anyone in the room. I was getting a cigarette out because they allowed him to smoke if I held the cigarette for him (due to the fact that he had broken fingers in his left hand that had not healed from a fall). He motioned that he did not want a cigarette and asked me to come closer (note I was several feet away from him at that moment). I sat down beside his bed after he said he had something to tell me and he motioned for me to come closer.

After his confession and several moments of TRYING to explain to me what he was TRYING to tell the BIMBO (me) who Dan Cooper was- THIS WAS WHEN HE SHOUTED "OH, FXXX, LET IT DIE WITH ME!". This was said very loudly and very strongly - 2 nurses came running into the room - thinking he was upset and one of them came back a few moments later with some pills or a shot (I don't remember).

There was NO ONE present in the room until he shouted.
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BTW: Is everyone aware the nurses who attended
Duane during this period Jo/Sluggo describes have been interviewed?




:)unless you ARE FBI you have NO WAY of knowing if that is TRUE. You have stated such things before and then you get upset when I think you must be or have been an employee of the federal government in some capacity.

If they were questioned, you have to remember that the FBI did NOT QUESTION anyone until 2 yrs after he died (how are the nurses going to remember a patient they tended that many yrs ago?)

Duane Weber died on March 28, 1995. On May 24, 1996 I contacted the FBI and they would not send anyone to my home until - March of 1997 to collect information. That makes 2 yrs.

Several months later agents were sent to question the man who bought the Van and question the woman who was in the room on the second day when he was talking about the "bucket" and to talk to others who might have known Duane Weber.

Georger:
THE STATEMENT YOU QUOTED BE LOW IS CORRECT other than the fact it did not get LOUD until I didn't understand what he was trying to tell me.

"I WILL assure you that DUANE did NOT MUMBLE a death bed confession. It was very matter of fact and very clear and very loud - it was 11 days before he died. He was still strong, but he could tolerate NO MORE diaylsis - he was tired of it. It was his choice to cease treatment. (all in colored caps the above)"

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On Aug 20 2008

"The day of the confession was right after he had told the Dr. he wanted to cease the dialysis and was very alert (no drugs) and asked the Dr. if he would want to continue to live in his body."


So,,,,, it appears the distinction Jo and Sluggo
are tying us up over is an issue of ALERTNESS!




;) Did it take everyone else that long to get the point? Sluggo and I are NOT the ones tying anyone up - you are the only one who has questioned this matter over and over and over and caused all of this repetition.


Bullshit.

It was you and Sluggo who brought the
matter of a 'death bed confession' up several
days ago - not me!

It was important enough for you and Sluggo to
bring it up so why not explain why?

You and Sluggo refused to explain why. You still
havent explained, neither has Sluggo.

Im sorry if I am not part of your CULT to know what
GREEN EGGS & HAM MEANS when you and Sluggo stomp your feet and demand everyone fall in line
and obey, and mind meld.

Perhaps a blow up doll is what you need?

Three blow up dolls add up to: We & They & Them.
Your self acclaimed supporters and researchers...

But keep posting. Its entertainment. ?

*In the meantime, I will just accept the fact
you and several others are here merely to
DISPENSE information-propaganda, but your rules
do not include or allow any examination of what you say.

On the other hand you are free to examine and
make allegations against others, and tell others what they may post and say!

Doesnt that pretty well sum the whole thing up?

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Georger,

You seem to be tossing Jo and Sluggo into the same barrel. Are you sure that's justified?

Sluggo is hardly a Jo promoter... far from it if you look at the substance of his posts.

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Received confirmation things are in process in WA state. More of this Phase I will be sent out this week to yet another location. There will be a total of 6 drops...each drop costs me about $60.

I expect what I am doing will be known to others within the next 2 wks. It may NOT prove Duane was Cooper and may not bring resolutions...because the FBI has stated - I have to put him on the plane.

Putting him on the plane is Phase II...but first I have to finish Phase I.
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Received confirmation things are in process in WA state. More of this Phase I will be sent out this week to yet another location. There will be a total of 6 drops...each drop costs me about $60.

Jo,

What the heck is a "drop"?


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I expect what I am doing will be known to others within the next 2 wks. It may NOT prove Duane was Cooper and may not bring resolutions...because the FBI has stated - I have to put him on the plane.



How about putting Duane in a chute? You've said that he jumped, how about proving it?

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Putting him on the plane is Phase II...but first I have to finish Phase I.



If you can prove Duane was Cooper just cut to the chase and skip all these "phases."

You seem to be equivocating about whether you can put Duane on the plane. I actually take that as a good sign, more in touch with reality.

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Those unknown explosions which create oft witnessed mushroom clouds have long held me transfixed.



Me too!

There are some episodes that never made the major press. In the late 70s a solo female sailor in a Suntory sponsored sailboat race from the US to Japan made a frantic radio call saying she was witnessing an atomic explosion and feared for her life. Her description was nearly identical to the one supplied by the JAL 747 crew, but took place years earlier than their sighting. Many thought she was hallucinating from lack of sleep, but the later JAL accounts make me think she saw exactly the same phenomena.

No light flash. No residual radioactivity. No sesimic event at the reported musroom cloud location.

What could it have been?


http://www.nytimes.com/1985/05/21/science/a-year-after-mushroom-cloud-the-mystery-lingers.html?&pagewanted=1

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hi altitude plasma discharge - silent,
seems stationary until it fads away, no seismic
counterpart. Seems all- consuming as seen from ground level then slowly fads away into nothing.
The gods have their own play toys.

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Georger,

You seem to be tossing Jo and Sluggo into the same barrel. Are you sure that's justified?

Sluggo is hardly a Jo promoter... far from it if you look at the substance of his posts.

377



It goes to consistency on Jo's part. Sluggo may
be saying Jo has been consistent on this one point
so far as he knows, but it still does not address the larger issue of Jo's consistency.

I guess I just dont understand Jo Weber's story.

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The first drop is resulting in some good information, but it has just been one day.

I will say I like what I am hearing and I don't know why I didn't ask for help before - well, I did - I just didn't do it the right way.

Camp Bonneville was considered a military ammunitions facility. Larch Mountain Corrections was also known as Larch Mountain Honor Camp in the earlier years and is located east of Hockinson on Larch Mountain. I knew this but didn't know it was orginally an Honor Camp. It is a known fact these guy worked the forestry.

There were witnesses who heard the plane just out of Yacolt, which is north of Battle Ground about 11 miles Sluggo will even like hearing that one.

Expect to hear more by this week-end - at least I will be able to put this part of the mystery behind me - if I knew what kind of tower - that will help with the connection or association with Duane. It has been stated we could have been further North.

For example remember when I realized Duane turned me around down in LaCames Lake and I didn't discover this until a young man sent me a different kind of map to mark for him a few months ago.

At 3 AM this marked map was lying on my counter-top when I went to make myself some tea - and low and behold the cotton pickin "hill" was there. I was viewing the map from an angle I had never thought of and feared it would make very thing else wrong, but it actually made it better. This is when I realize that by going up the hill I was turned the other way and what I thought was N.W. was actually S.E.

What I am hearing today could be more of the same so I will need to dig out the maps. Was supposed to get another drop ready to go out tomorrow, but guess it won't go out until Weds. The big drop is in June and that one will be big - and expensive, but maybe it won't be needed.

You are right 377 - putting Duane on that plane is the "Big One". It is the one I dread the most - because of what I have to do in order to put him on that plane...

Discovered something else last night revisiting old files and notes. The FBI told another party they questioned regarding Duane that 2 individuals were involved. Why would the FBI say that to someone they were interviewing? Where they fishing or did they know something? Or was this a couple of FBI agents who didn't have a clue about the incident.

Strange this Agent Lanaman seems to have disappeared. Two different parties where witness to this statement from this FBI agent. Amazing what one forgets and how differently the same information looks and sounds after all of these yrs.
My memory is surely failing me because just a few wks ago Lanaman was mentioned by one of you - and it had completely escaped me until I had reason
to revisit these old files.

This woman they interviewed in 1997 begged me for my address and phone number just about 3 months before she died because she had something she wanted to send me......but I was guarded because of my husbands health and I should have know she was failing. She died 2 hours before I made my last call to her three months later.

This is a woman I was instructed by the FBI NOT to contact, but I did anyway and I am glad I did and I am glad I took her 2 AM phone calls and I am glad she had someone to confide in - but, I let her down on the end and now I will never know what she wanted to send me.

Maybe Georger was agent Lanaman. Would that explain why this woman and her daughter were told there were 2 hijackers? Both of them didn't hear the FBI agent wrong?
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Jo There is nothing you state or ever will state that will carry any validity to this case. All your stories are good fiction.I have no Idea what your talking about when it comes to interviews but if i was you I wouldn't count my chickens before they are hatched.Oh by the way you didn't even know camp Boniville existed or Larch mountain corectional center was there untill I told you. I believe that was in 97 give or take a year I'll have to check my tapes for the exact conversation. You surely recall our first conversation was that all you remembered about your trip was when you crossed over the cowlitz river bridge on I-5 that Duane told you that was where Cooper burried his money. Enough Jo. Jerry

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Confirmation bias (or myside bias) is a tendency for people to prefer information that confirms their preconceptions or hypotheses, independently of whether they are true. People can reinforce their existing attitudes by selectively collecting new evidence, by interpreting evidence in a biased way or by selectively recalling information from memory.

People tend to test hypotheses in a one-sided way, focusing on one possibility and neglecting alternatives. This strategy is not necessarily a bias, but combined with other effects it can reinforce existing beliefs. The biases appear in particular for issues that are emotionally significant (including some personal and political topics) and for established beliefs that shape the individual's expectations. Biased search, interpretation and/or recall have been invoked to explain attitude polarization (when a disagreement becomes more extreme as the different parties are exposed to the same evidence), belief perseverance (when beliefs remain after the evidence for them is taken away)[, the irrational primacy effect (a stronger weighting for data encountered early in an arbitrary series) and illusory correlation (in which people falsely perceive an association between two events).

Confirmation biases are effects in information processing. They can lead to disastrous decisions. Confirmation biases contribute to overconfidence in personal beliefs.
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Jo There is nothing you state or ever will state that will carry any validity to this case. All your stories are good fiction.I have no Idea what your talking about when it comes to interviews but if i was you I wouldn't count my chickens before they are hatched.Oh by the way you didn't even know camp Boniville existed or Larch mountain corectional center was there untill I told you. I believe that was in 97 give or take a year I'll have to check my tapes for the exact conversation. You surely recall our first conversation was that all you remembered about your trip was when you crossed over the cowlitz river bridge on I-5 that Duane told you that was where Cooper burried his money. Enough Jo. Jerry



Got the best news possible last night. Am headed
west for 4 days to celebrate. The problem is solved
and over with! Its a miracle. Thanks, sir. B|

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The first drop is resulting in some good information, but it has just been one day.

I will say I like what I am hearing and I don't know why I didn't ask for help before - well, I did - I just didn't do it the right way.

Camp Bonneville was considered a military ammunitions facility. Larch Mountain Corrections was also known as Larch Mountain Honor Camp in the earlier years and is located east of Hockinson on Larch Mountain. I knew this but didn't know it was orginally an Honor Camp. It is a known fact these guy worked the forestry.

There were witnesses who heard the plane just out of Yacolt, which is north of Battle Ground about 11 miles Sluggo will even like hearing that one.

Expect to hear more by this week-end - at least I will be able to put this part of the mystery behind me - if I knew what kind of tower - that will help with the connection or association with Duane. It has been stated we could have been further North.

For example remember when I realized Duane turned me around down in LaCames Lake and I didn't discover this until a young man sent me a different kind of map to mark for him a few months ago.

At 3 AM this marked map was lying on my counter-top when I went to make myself some tea - and low and behold the cotton pickin "hill" was there. I was viewing the map from an angle I had never thought of and feared it would make very thing else wrong, but it actually made it better. This is when I realize that by going up the hill I was turned the other way and what I thought was N.W. was actually S.E.

What I am hearing today could be more of the same so I will need to dig out the maps. Was supposed to get another drop ready to go out tomorrow, but guess it won't go out until Weds. The big drop is in June and that one will be big - and expensive, but maybe it won't be needed.

You are right 377 - putting Duane on that plane is the "Big One". It is the one I dread the most - because of what I have to do in order to put him on that plane...

Discovered something else last night revisiting old files and notes. The FBI told another party they questioned regarding Duane that 2 individuals were involved. Why would the FBI say that to someone they were interviewing? Where they fishing or did they know something? Or was this a couple of FBI agents who didn't have a clue about the incident.

Strange this Agent Lanaman seems to have disappeared. Two different parties where witness to this statement from this FBI agent. Amazing what one forgets and how differently the same information looks and sounds after all of these yrs.
My memory is surely failing me because just a few wks ago Lanaman was mentioned by one of you - and it had completely escaped me until I had reason
to revisit these old files.

This woman they interviewed in 1997 begged me for my address and phone number just about 3 months before she died because she had something she wanted to send me......but I was guarded because of my husbands health and I should have know she was failing. She died 2 hours before I made my last call to her three months later.

This is a woman I was instructed by the FBI NOT to contact, but I did anyway and I am glad I did and I am glad I took her 2 AM phone calls and I am glad she had someone to confide in - but, I let her down on the end and now I will never know what she wanted to send me.

Maybe Georger was agent Lanaman. Would that explain why this woman and her daughter were told there were 2 hijackers? Both of them didn't hear the FBI agent wrong?



When does the wailing and sobbing and gnashing
of teeth start?

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No responding to anybody in particular, but if you have the National Geographic Channel, it is showing a program about the DB Cooper Skyjacking tonight...

I have no idea if it's a rerun or a new show.
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Got the best news possible last night. Am headed
west for 4 days to celebrate. The problem is solved
and over with! Its a miracle. Thanks, sir.



Details Georger? Glad for your good fortune.

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Orange's post was interesting and sure applies to Jo.

I once read about confirmation bias playing a role in airliner crashes when pilots disregard or delay acting on information (eg from instruments or warning lights or audible alarms) that conflicts with what they think is correct.

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Maybe Georger was agent Lanaman. Would that explain why this woman and her daughter were told there were 2 hijackers? Both of them didn't hear the FBI agent wrong?



Another delusion you have is that anybody posting here besides Carr is an FBI agent. I think you are joking about Georger but you think the FBI is conspiring to hide the truth about Cooper. They want the truth just as much as you do Jo. It is a nagging embarrasment that they cannot solve Norjack. They'd love to fix that and have a 1000 batting average on skyjackers.

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Jo There is nothing you state or ever will state that will carry any validity to this case. All your stories are good fiction.I have no Idea what your talking about when it comes to interviews but if i was you I wouldn't count my chickens before they are hatched.Oh by the way you didn't even know camp Boniville existed or Larch mountain corectional center was there untill I told you. I believe that was in 97 give or take a year I'll have to check my tapes for the exact conversation. You surely recall our first conversation was that all you remembered about your trip was when you crossed over the cowlitz river bridge on I-5 that Duane told you that was where Cooper burried his money. Enough Jo. Jerry



The first time I talked to you I did not even have a map of any part of the area...just a small map that was in Gunther's book. I described the places and you told me WE had to be at a certain river - and that WE had to have been on I-5. Who was I to dispute the expert..I kept telling you the route (I didn't have names or roads), but you insisted there were NO such places like I described. I had map of half of the US later and gave it another try - and then I was able to tell you we where on Hwy 14 and turned into a small town. With the map I acquired, you were told we turned into Washougal or Camas and that we did not go all the way to Vancouver but, you told me - NO way.

I was unable to make you hear what I saw in my head and in my memory - and I didn't find these places with your help - you were the hinderance. Even the TV crew didn't have a clue...it took a truck driver called Udell - and I still think of her as my Wa. Angel.

All I had been doing until that time was beating my head against a brick wall - no one would listen to what I was trying to tell them about where Duane took me.
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Maybe Georger was agent Lanaman. Would that explain why this woman and her daughter were told there were 2 hijackers? Both of them didn't hear the FBI agent wrong?



Another delusion you have is that anybody posting here besides Carr is an FBI agent. I think you are joking about Georger but you think the FBI is conspiring to hide the truth about Cooper. They want the truth just as much as you do Jo. It is a nagging embarrasment that they cannot solve Norjack. They'd love to fix that and have a 1000 batting average on skyjackers.

377


:ph34r:The Lanaman remark was a rib at Georger - I even typed it stating he was Lanaman and then deleted it - maybe it wasn't a joke, but more like a poke in the ribs.

Just came natural after I had mentioned this agent I forgot about - it was Georger who asked about that agent I believe, but I didn't search back to verify it.:|

I will admit to believing there are too many secrets kept regarding this case and that lends itself to hiding something, just as we have had writers here who were NOT who we thought they were.

Now back to Georger - he made it sound like there was a break in the case because of the post it followed - ( he never comes in with a personal note that spontaneous) and I know something is going on in WA right now. Exactly what they will do about it - I don't know.

I am not "just" talking about what I am doing but what someone else is doing, Remember Georger was very protective of Tina, just as I was. It was the only neutral thing between Georger and I.

Must be smoking to make a remark like that.:D:D

But, considering Georger's connection to Tina which was obvious in his posts - and then his sudden departure to the West for 4 days?????

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But, considering Georger's connection to Tina which was obvious in his posts - and then his sudden departure to the West for 4 days?????



Jo,

Are you seriously contending that Georger has a personal connection with Tina?

If he did, why would he give you any hints that had such a connection?

Here is a statement of yours I think anyone could agree with:

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I know something is going on in WA right now.



It conveys no specific information, but since something is always going on in WA it is undeniably true.

You are generous with generalities, sparing in specifics and downright stingy in proofs.

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Jo . Ref the late 90"s and our conversation's,You didn't need a map or anything else you had a Author that was going to wright a book on you . Remember you gave me her phone # and you gave her mine . She called me, Then cancelled with you. Jo.Next thing I know your mad at me as always. Only because The story you gave her matched up with the book called IT HAPPENED HERE. the one that described the cabin the( wood shed) duane hid in as in one of your post.Shall I go On again . all anyone has to do is read your past post from day one and my past post from day one. and compare. Still I do Have one more thing and that is all our conversations on tape. Past post even prove this. So why is it every time Im chalenged by you, do we have to go back and read the fiction ,you have constantly presented. This gets old for all. Still there are those that may stick up for you. Why I have know Idea ! Unless they just enjoy making a fool out of themselves. And yes Jo for some reason people will do that for you. What is realy funny Days later after, some research they, feel ashamed. Jerry

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I made a comment that should clear all from Jo"s putdown's . Jo from now on you do not have to prove anyone wrong but me. From now on please only atack me .I know you and your stories and where they came from. Not even doug pasternik Knows as much as I do. This guy has made a lot of fiction match your stories . This I can ,and will prove. Maybe! this is why he never contacted me before are after the article. Regardless of how many time's I tried to contact him. Only one time did he and I talk That was after the article. Then when I proved him a Liar he hung up the phone . He did say that he depended on you to be truthfull. However doubts was his down fall. Where is doug now .I know Do You. Have him Post. You Can't and he won't. Jerry

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Geoger has no personal conection with tina. Geoger is a very honest man hard working.A Father With the mother syndrome. Like all father's and cares about reality. And want's to make life easier for all man Kind. He does have one problem however and that is His intellengent levell is will beyond most.Still He does want to help all. Jerry

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Jo loves speaking in riddles.

"drops" ????

Are you contacting passengers Jo?

Pardon me for asking you to forsake riddles for plain English...

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