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I challenge each an every poster to post one “new or never-published” factoid about NORJAK and get at least three posters to comment on it without making derogatory statements. If you guys won’t or can’t do this, I’m gonna go and sit in some church basement, drink coffee, and say:



You start. I will follow.

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I challenge each an every poster to post one “new or never-published” factoid about NORJAK and get at least three posters to comment on it without making derogatory statements. If you guys won’t or can’t do this, I’m gonna go and sit in some church basement, drink coffee, and say:



You start. I will follow.

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I have the book by George Nuttall being sent to me. Wonder if it is worth the money.

I was thinking I talked to or exchanged an email with that man in recent yrs...but didn't know he was writing a book about Cooper.

Has anyone here read the book?
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So why didn't Bernie give an answer to the question? He just sits there and looks at Scott, Buddy, and Christine and says nothing. Not even a simple denial. It was weird.



His look was as much as saying: "I dont want
to be here. Im only here to clear my name".

He said he was "at sea" when his "wife" rented
to Kenny - thats the same as saying I had
nothing to do with Kenny during that period
because he wasnt that close to me.

He said almost scoughing 'yes I think Kenny
was Cooper', but it had nothing to do with me.

He looked to me like he was enjoying not wanting
to be there - likes publicity if it benefits him. He
basically said he and Kenny were not as close
as you claim and he called you a liar.

He struck me as knowing more than he said
but perhaps not knowing the things you want
him he know; he seemed resentful over that
and a little mystified and fearful.

He said a lot while saying nothing?

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So who is the blonde in Jamie's avatar slide show? Why do the rockers get the stars like Gwenyth Paltrow and Pamela Anderson? Is Jamie following in their footsteps?

187 means murder to any CA lawyer, but I think it's just a coincidence and not a threat. It is CA specific, not a federal statute.


http://www.google.com/search?q=penal+code+187&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari


I like Sluggos suggestion, but don't have any new evidence.

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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His look was as much as saying: "I dont want
to be here. Im only here to clear my name".

He said he was "at sea" when his "wife" rented
to Kenny - thats the same as saying I had
nothing to do with Kenny during that period
because he wasnt that close to me.

He said almost scoughing 'yes I think Kenny
was Cooper', but it had nothing to do with me.

He looked to me like he was enjoying not wanting
to be there - likes publicity if it benefits him. He
basically said he and Kenny were not as close
as you claim and he called you a liar.

He struck me as knowing more than he said
but perhaps not knowing the things you want
him he know; he seemed resentful over that
and a little mystified and fearful.

He said a lot while saying nothing?



I have been waiting for a DVD my friend made for me of the program, but I did get to watch the program while it was on an someones home - we didn't have a way to record it.

You pretty much summed up what my friends and I stated that night when it was over. The husband is military and his remarks were dead on with yours.
It was as if your post was summary of our conversation after the program was over.
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So who is the blonde in Jamie's avatar slide show? Why do the rockers get the stars like Gwenyth Paltrow and Pamela Anderson? Is Jamie following in their footsteps?

187 means murder to any CA lawyer, but I think it's just a coincidence and not a threat. It is CA specific, not a federal statute.


http://www.google.com/search?q=penal+code+187&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari


I like Sluggos suggestion, but don't have any new evidence.

377



I wish they could get rid of the flashing avatar - a litte distracting dontcha think!:)

What do I know about Cooper that has never been made public.
Only 3 people beside the crew know what I am talking about and they aren't talking - yet! >:( (closest emotion-con we have for the devil).

Georger was right about that whacky hat. Jamie had a Bunny in it.:)
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187 means murder to any CA lawyer, but I think it's just a coincidence and not a threat. It is CA specific, not a federal statute.



Oh it's clearly not a coincidence. I'm fairly certain he is aware of the meaning of the number through his "tough guy" musical persona.

http://www.reverbnation.com/jamiecooper
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Only Cooper could be prosecuted at this late date. The case would be tried in US District Court (fed court) most likely in Seattle.

Unless the prosecution had really solid unambiguous evidence of guilt, Cooper's lawyer could probably get the case dismissed based on the govts failure to preserve evidence (cig butts) that may have been exculpatory.

In civil cases you don't need unanamous jury verdicts to win but criminal cases require that ALL jurors agree or there will be a hung jury and a mistrial. A federal prosecutor might decide against prosecuting Cooper fearing a loss if the case were tried to a jury. Just one juror who saw Cooper as a hero could thwart a conviction. Deciding not to prosecute based on insufficient evidence won't kill a career but losing a trial could.
An acquittal isn't out of the question. The burden of proof is on the prosecution and guilt must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

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187 means murder to any CA lawyer, but I think it's just a coincidence and not a threat. It is CA specific, not a federal statute.



Oh it's clearly not a coincidence. I'm fairly certain he is aware of the meaning of the number through his "tough guy" musical persona.

http://www.reverbnation.com/jamiecooper



Although crime seems to enhance the credentials of rappers, Jamie is more of a punk rocker. To his credit he doesn't seem to exploit the "I am Boy Cooper, son of a truly legendary criminal" to advance his music career.

I just wish someone would find a hot twenty. We are going in circles with our unsupported speculation.

Galen Cook is way overdue on his book. Sheridan Peterson lurks but remains silent. Ckret watches it all but is muted by his employer.

All quiet on the western front.

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Oh it's clearly not a coincidence. I'm fairly certain he is aware of the meaning of the number through his "tough guy" musical persona.



So if I want to be seen as a tough guy what are my options?

tattoos?
felony conviction?
nihilistic punk rock performer?

Nahhh. I'll become a dropzone.com moderator and wield the axe without hesitation or mercy.;)

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I just wish someone would find a hot twenty. We are going in circles with our unsupported speculation.

Galen Cook is way overdue on his book. Sheridan Peterson lurks but remains silent. Ckret watches it all but is muted by his employer.

All quiet on the western front.


377



It appears to me that Vicki's posting style and quiet "laid back" attitude hasn't really prompted much "sleuthing" from those who like to dig.

If she is up for it then I suggest some of guys who really like digging (377 (aka Snowman's proxy), Georger etc turn the spotlight on that lead. My bets are that it is a dead-end street but from past experience when people start digging some really interesting stuff is churned up from old newspaper articles.


For ease of access here is Farflungs list from some time ago.
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Looks like Vicki’s list is actually very compelling AND longer than most. I think it is only fair to say that Melvin Wilson is a ‘long list’ suspect now.

1. Age mid forties (time of the crime)
2. Out on bail (Sept 1971) on Federal charges
3. Counterfeiter of over $200,000 (affinity)
4. Vanished and has not been seen since 1971 (this is a new one)
5. Last resided near the HQ town of Northwest Orient
6. Known smoker and drinker (unknown cigarette brand and alcohol type)
7. Height and weight are correct
8. Did not need a toupee
9. Olive complexion (did not need a winter tan)
10. Familiar with Federal law enforcement and definitely had a grudge
11. Unknown whereabouts as the US Marshals Office was after him
12. Knew how to change identity and blend into new surroundings
13. Known to abandon money or at least counterfeit money into navigable waterways and have it discovered
14. On the run and likely had no vehicle
15. On the run and did not have a permanent residence
16. Photo in video shows him wearing sunglasses similar to the pair described on Cooper
17. Was able to successfully pass counterfeit money making passing ransom money child’s play
18. Was known to be in possession of large sums of cash, albeit counterfeit
19. Was in the military
20. Described as polite (by his wife!)
21. Comfortable working complex larcenies alone

That is an impressive list to be sure. The running from the Feds in September, 71 and the familiarity with hundreds of thousands of dollars is an amazing coincidence.

I have no idea if Melvin Wilson was Cooper, but found the exercise of scribing the similarities enlightening. At least there may be some more perspective about others, but I doubt it.


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Well, good news on the AB front.

Last night 'Blast' was rated around 150,000 at Amazon. By 2AM it was #1 under the Criminal Bios/Hot New Releases category, and #14 overall in the Crime books category.

The book sales info at Lightning Source is updating so quickly that we can't get a readout on it this morning. Whatever this means, it can't be a bad thing. :)


Of course, ratings at Amazon are fluid, and updated hourly. By this afternoon, it could be sitting in the basement.



B| congrats Robert.

Where do I send my copy for an autograph? ;)










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Here ya go "big bad sleuths"

I keep running into dead ends, ex:

Leavenworth prison records - he does not exist/no record of him

US Marshals, Madison WI - cannot give information on a open case

Veterans Administration - no record.


https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.7&thid=12d498605d8a65d2&mt=application/pdf&url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui%3D2%26ik%3D6278d1bd1b%26view%3Datt%26th%3D12d498605d8a65d2%26attid%3D0.7%26disp%3Dattd%26realattid%3Df082a06b992a5df0_0.7%26zw&sig=AHIEtbR-vtMSDz4qjpfMTfLcx8Qzl52EIg

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.6&thid=12d498605d8a65d2&mt=application/pdf&url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui%3D2%26ik%3D6278d1bd1b%26view%3Datt%26th%3D12d498605d8a65d2%26attid%3D0.6%26disp%3Dattd%26realattid%3Df082a06b992a5df0_0.6%26zw&sig=AHIEtbQI68WGyWakYE3NMMckTurleX4jRw

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.4&thid=12d498605d8a65d2&mt=application/pdf&url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui%3D2%26ik%3D6278d1bd1b%26view%3Datt%26th%3D12d498605d8a65d2%26attid%3D0.4%26disp%3Dattd%26realattid%3Df082a06b992a5df0_0.4%26zw&sig=AHIEtbSti2pJZroZId_vascnjOjyKVXDBA

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.5&thid=12d498605d8a65d2&mt=application/pdf&url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui%3D2%26ik%3D6278d1bd1b%26view%3Datt%26th%3D12d498605d8a65d2%26attid%3D0.5%26disp%3Dattd%26realattid%3Df082a06b992a5df0_0.5%26zw&sig=AHIEtbTRU69h8ruZSEZpXvYhCOdj_lYy5w

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.3&thid=12d498605d8a65d2&mt=application/pdf&url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui%3D2%26ik%3D6278d1bd1b%26view%3Datt%26th%3D12d498605d8a65d2%26attid%3D0.3%26disp%3Dattd%26realattid%3Df082a06b992a5df0_0.3%26zw&sig=AHIEtbSPZQepjPbas-u_fJS5tCpuKT8lZw

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.2&thid=12d498605d8a65d2&mt=application/pdf&url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui%3D2%26ik%3D6278d1bd1b%26view%3Datt%26th%3D12d498605d8a65d2%26attid%3D0.2%26disp%3Dattd%26realattid%3Df082a06b992a5df0_0.2%26zw&sig=AHIEtbTNhvZTQLn4lNXaR2r8nS1g0mc2pQ

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.1&thid=12d498605d8a65d2&mt=application/pdf&url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui%3D2%26ik%3D6278d1bd1b%26view%3Datt%26th%3D12d498605d8a65d2%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3Dattd%26realattid%3Df082a06b992a5df0_0.1%26zw&sig=AHIEtbQqk_ue4mPk87EwA0iTYbigjx8mlQ
Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs

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I'm going to look at those Google docs VickiW posted, just to see what she has there.



I will throw pics up again too.....sometime, as time permits.

Thank you to Smokin99 for sending me these articles back on 11.17.2010.

I have more articles, counterfeiting and Cooper, from the St. Paul and Minneapolis papers that I went to the History museum and pulled off Microfiche. Once I have time I will scan and upload...I just do not have a lot of time with my current schedule.
Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs

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Here ya go "big bad sleuths"

I keep running into dead ends, ex:

Leavenworth prison records - he does not exist/no record of him

US Marshals, Madison WI - cannot give information on a open case

Veterans Administration - no record.


https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.7&thid=12d498605d8a65d2&mt=application/pdf&url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui%3D2%26ik%3D6278d1bd1b%26view%3Datt%26th%3D12d498605d8a65d2%26attid%3D0.7%26disp%3Dattd%26realattid%3Df082a06b992a5df0_0.7%26zw&sig=AHIEtbR-vtMSDz4qjpfMTfLcx8Qzl52EIg

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.6&thid=12d498605d8a65d2&mt=application/pdf&url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui%3D2%26ik%3D6278d1bd1b%26view%3Datt%26th%3D12d498605d8a65d2%26attid%3D0.6%26disp%3Dattd%26realattid%3Df082a06b992a5df0_0.6%26zw&sig=AHIEtbQI68WGyWakYE3NMMckTurleX4jRw

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.4&thid=12d498605d8a65d2&mt=application/pdf&url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui%3D2%26ik%3D6278d1bd1b%26view%3Datt%26th%3D12d498605d8a65d2%26attid%3D0.4%26disp%3Dattd%26realattid%3Df082a06b992a5df0_0.4%26zw&sig=AHIEtbSti2pJZroZId_vascnjOjyKVXDBA

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.5&thid=12d498605d8a65d2&mt=application/pdf&url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui%3D2%26ik%3D6278d1bd1b%26view%3Datt%26th%3D12d498605d8a65d2%26attid%3D0.5%26disp%3Dattd%26realattid%3Df082a06b992a5df0_0.5%26zw&sig=AHIEtbTRU69h8ruZSEZpXvYhCOdj_lYy5w

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.3&thid=12d498605d8a65d2&mt=application/pdf&url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui%3D2%26ik%3D6278d1bd1b%26view%3Datt%26th%3D12d498605d8a65d2%26attid%3D0.3%26disp%3Dattd%26realattid%3Df082a06b992a5df0_0.3%26zw&sig=AHIEtbSPZQepjPbas-u_fJS5tCpuKT8lZw

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.2&thid=12d498605d8a65d2&mt=application/pdf&url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui%3D2%26ik%3D6278d1bd1b%26view%3Datt%26th%3D12d498605d8a65d2%26attid%3D0.2%26disp%3Dattd%26realattid%3Df082a06b992a5df0_0.2%26zw&sig=AHIEtbTNhvZTQLn4lNXaR2r8nS1g0mc2pQ

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.1&thid=12d498605d8a65d2&mt=application/pdf&url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui%3D2%26ik%3D6278d1bd1b%26view%3Datt%26th%3D12d498605d8a65d2%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3Dattd%26realattid%3Df082a06b992a5df0_0.1%26zw&sig=AHIEtbQqk_ue4mPk87EwA0iTYbigjx8mlQ



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Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs

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AAAGGGHHH!!! I just resized them because they would not upload. Does anyone want to help me out? If I send an e-mail with the photos attached will you upload? WHERE ARE YOU FARFLUNG?! [:/]

Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs

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Hope you and AB break even or better Robert. The show will undoubtedly add some new bodies to the DBC circle of interest.

I do hope someone will check out the attic hinge issue. It's not your problem, but it would tell us how much spin Decoded puts on things. It would give us a calibration point.

Did you take the option offer?

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Some of the pictures need to be enlarged/enhanced using Paint Shop or Microsoft Digital Pro 10 or up.

One good way to do this is to scan the original photos at the highest possible resolution. Then you have enough image information to work with for enlargements without distortion.

NEVER save scanned images in JPEG, or at least ones that are important. Select TIFF, (Tagged Image File Format) PNG, (Portable Network Graphics) or maybe Windows Bitmap for best results. These are generally lossless formats. Every time you save an image in JPEG, it loses some image quality.

Your long 'argh' there is messing with the page, BTW.;)

Question: Do you have the originals? Trying to expand those JPEG's won't work. The originals must be scanned and saved to your computer first, at the highest possible resolution in a lossless format. I think I said that. (*Robert goes brain dead*)



... and remember Vicki, each photo uploaded
can be no larger than 300 kb.

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